Yahoo Mail Beta Receives Update

By the Betanews Staff | Published December 20, 2006, 3:11 PM

Yahoo has pushed an update of the beta of its mail product, including performance improvements, bug fixes, and several new features. Developers have improved the loading times for the client, addressed an issue where the beta would generate superfluous "click" sounds in Internet Explorer, and added Vista support. Language support for Mexican, Argentinean, and American Spanish as well as Indonesian and Malay were also added.

In features, the Mail team has added weather information to the welcome page as well as better calendar and search functionality within the client. Finally, a new feature was added from the company's quarterly "Hack Day" that allows the user to quickly navigate through message folders based on the user's settings.

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Yahoo mail, IE (html) paste into word locks up! This used to work fine. Other web sites work fine. It started right after yahoo upgraded mail interface.

I am experiencing consistant problems with Yahoo mail when pasting into word. More particularly html code into word. XP SP2 with Office 2003 Sp2, CPU processed up to 90% utilization. This function was working for a long time, now word freezes.

Through research I found many people have the same issue. We can perform a work around with Paste Special, then select rtf format. When I perform a past into WordPAD, it performs flawlessly. The problem is that word tries to access the source of the html code (Yahoo mail) as part of the paste function.

I have reloaded Word, repaired, disabled firewall, removed firewall, reinstalled, removed and checked for patches, turned off smart paste in word, regenerated normal.dot, repaired word, changed the view to normal/webview. Reinstalled again, removed all registry references to word, checked for viruses, spam, malware, Adaware, Sybot, Defender, Norton virus scan, Updated Adobe( ??) etc...

All of these actions did not change this problem of internet explorer paste to word crashes. Research tells me this is a long standing issue.

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Is there no BCC feature in yahoo mail? Surely there is a way to send mail in yahoo to multiple people without telling everyone receiving mail who the reciepients are.

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Yes, you can BCC people on mail messages.

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Not going to even consider using it until it supports Opera properly.

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it is a good news for me

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I do observed that it takes some what less time to load the mail beta. I am from Sri Lanka and I often connected through poor dialup connection and I shall be thankful if they can improve the speed of load the initial screen.
Searching works fine for Roman Text my mother tongue Tamil via UNICODE I hope the same issue with the other Indian Languages as well. I shall be thankful if Yahoo! can fix this.
Day by day Yahoo! mail getting better. I rellay like the tab mail used in Yahoo!. Thanks a lot Yahoo! guys.

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"AMERICAN SPANISH"

Wow! And I mean it, WOW!
This implies that Yahoo considers the Spanish spoken in the USA to be different enough to other Spanish dialects (notably Mexican) so as to warrant a separate category. Very interesting indeed ....
Not a lot to do with computers, software or even technology, but a sign of the times after all ...

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Yeah, we need to cater to all the non-americans living in our country so that they can stay in their own little enclaves and with their 3rd world customs.

Sadly, our babying of these people is killing them. Seattle, Washington recently had a massive storm that knocked out power to thousands, if not millions of people. 6 immigrants have died, and over 200 have been hospitalized because they have *not* become Americans. They stick to themselves and do not learn our ways, thus they do not know certain things we take for granted (generators and coal-burning grills do *not* belong indoors). This lack of assimilation into American culture is killing them, and our fear of offending them by encouraging them to integrate is enabling this to continue.

The language of the United States of America is English. How can we continue to let these people take their Drivers exams in 20+ languages, stick to their own ways, and *die* because they don't understand that our housing is different enough from the "old country" that bringing burning coal into a house will *kill* you?

Sorry for the highly political rant, but catering to the languages of those who do *not* wish to integrate is only causing more problems in this country. They came to this country to live the American Dream. We are making it entirely too easy for them to utterly fail at this.

Dons protective, flame-resistant suit. Let's have it, then...

BTW,

Merry Christmas, everyone. :)

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You may have misinterpreted my post, though. My comment was much more linguistic than political. Actually, the very fact that originated this comments (Yahoo creating an “American Spanish” version of Yahoo Mail) points to another direction. It means that so many Spanish speaking people from so many different countries have been living for so long in your beloved US of A that a new dialect of Spanish has sprung into life. I’m sure almost all American Spanish speakers ALSO speak English very well and are well integrated into American society; they are not first generation immigrants who speak the dialect from their country of origin.
Besides, all your political rant looks like nothing but half-concealed chauvinism to me. You may catch as many raindrops as you like, PC_Tool, and you can throw them back up as hard as you wish but, you know what?, rain will *keep* coming down … :D

Oh, and by the way, Joyeux Noël pour toi aussi, PC_Tool! :)

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lmao...

chauvinism?

How'd you figure? I'd really like to see how you made that connection.

When the rain hits the ground, it joins all the other rain in the rivers, streams and oceans. No need to catch it.

Now if only the folks moving into the country could be encouraged to do the same in regards to mainstream culture and language...

I'm not the least bit prejudiced against other cultures. I am simply stating the hard truth that while their cultures are welcome here, they *need* to integrate with *our* culture to avoid problems like the one specifically mentioned above...and many others that are directly symptomatic of their inability, in-opportunity, or unwillingness to integrate into mainstream America.

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Heeere we go again .... :)

So, first things first. By “chauvinism” I mean excessive nationalism (see Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauvinism for details), NOT male chauvinism, which is another meaning the term has in English nowadays. Maybe I should have written “Jingoism” (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingoism) to avoid any possible misinterpretation, but we’re getting too subtle here ... You know what I meant, don’t you? Hope the connection is clear now

Then, my metaphor about the rain was supposed to mean that reality is what it is and NOT what you want it to be. Immigrants WILL continue to pour into the USA and some of them will integrate into American society (or at least what you consider to be mainstream American society :) ) while others will not. My guess is that the majority of them will be somewhere around the middle. Half-integrated, so to speak. And that will happen whether you like it or not. BTW, it isn’t exactly an easy thing to do, integrating into another society. Have YOU ever been an immigrant yourself? Have YOU ever lived in a country other than your own for a significant period of time?

I agree with you that SOME degree of integration is essential in order to avoid the problems you mentioned and many others. But we disagree in what that degree is.
I still believe that you are using the carbon monoxide incident of the unfortunate Vietnamese family to rationalize a certain dislike for aliens. They had been in the USA for over 15 years so they most probably knew at least basic English. Enough to read a warning sign, for sure. That was more a case of lack of common sense than lack of integration. The same common sense that poor Jason Ackerman and Sara Rydman (I don’t think they were Vietnamese with those names, right?) seriously lacked when they decided to crawl inside a large, deflated helium balloon that they had pulled down to earth. Surely enough, both 21-year olds died of asphixia. See: http://www.tampabays10.c...icle.aspx?storyid=32719
I can only imagine what you would say if they had been Cuban or Malaysian or Nigerian

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By “chauvinism” I mean excessive nationalism

Ahh... I see. instead of siimply saying "excessive nationalism", you had to play word games. Well, whatever strokes your ego...

Then, my metaphor about the rain was supposed to mean that reality is what it is and NOT what you want it to be. Immigrants WILL continue to pour into the USA and some of them will integrate into American society (or at least what you consider to be mainstream American society :) ) while others will not.

Que cera, cera? No thanks. That's the *exact* attitude I'm talking about. It's destroying the country.

I still believe that you are using the carbon monoxide incident of the unfortunate Vietnamese family to rationalize a certain dislike for aliens.

You couldn't be farther from the truth. My family has only been here for two generations, and I am pleasantly surrounded by Americans from all over the world in my trade. I have no problem with them, or my family.

They had been in the USA for over 15 years so they most probably knew at least basic English. Enough to read a warning sign, for sure.

Sure...that's why they published the Seattle newspaper the next day with warnings in 19 different languages on the front page. Yeah. I'm sure they could all read warnings in English just fine. Hell, they probably *knew* the Carbon monoxide would kill them. In fact, I'm sure it was simply a misunderstood mass-suicide attempt, right? The comment on how they *must* at least understand basic english after being here for 15 years marks how little you know of the situation. Many immigrant families are sticking to their own culture within our country. They go to stores owned and operated by folks just like them, and have no need whatsoever to learn our language. This can and does...and likely will, go on for several generations. Look at *any* major city. It's not just "little china", anymore. You have communities from all areas of the globe plunking down and living their lives without even stepping out of the enclave they've created.

What is the first thing you would do if you were planning to move to another country such as Venezuela, China, Germany, Nigeria...etc? You'd learn the language. You'd probably even attempt to acclimate yourself to their culture and social idioms.

Why should we expect any less of them? Our parents did it. ...and they didn't have free ESL classes at every city hall.

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I like the Yahoo! Mail beta but the RSS reader sucks a** compared to the Google Reader. If you compare the new Yahoo! Mail to Gmail AND Google Reader, there is no doubt who comes up on top. Google stuff may not look as pretty but it works about 1000% better. When Yahoo! decides to get off their asses and add functionality, then I might consider switching.

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The Google Reader definitely is better, but Yahoo! Mail is the future.

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Yahoo Mail Beta kicks booty!!!! I am not sure what all this slowness is, people are talking about. It loads right up for me, is so easy to use, and is aesthetically pleasing!!!! Gmail looks archaic compared to this!!!!
-By the way, you can check which version you have by pressing ALT, and clicking on the Yahoo! Mail Beta pic, in the upper left hand corner. 12/19/2006 is the latest version.
-I am not a Yahoo! employee, just love Yahoo! mail.

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And the load speeds still suck.
Stick with gmail - at least they have the technical proficiency to get the basics right; and the judgment to do so before adding bells and whistles.

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What I like most about YMB is its tabbed interface.

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@rckenned: Since when does Yahoo make direct contact with the public and do such things as answer questions? This is historical.

Anyway, when are you guys going to get around to supporting Opera? Opera has implemented a hack to make it kinda-sorta work, but it's dog slow and prone to problems.

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Yea, I have to say that it is a welcome change to see people posting like they're Yahoo employees.

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Ever since I became the Yahoo! Mail Beta evangelist. ;)

I'm not sure what the official line is on Opera. I work on the web service team, so I'm not sure what the frontend guys have up their sleeves in terms of browser support. Even if I did, I probably wouldn't be allowed to discuss those plans just yet.

I do know that some people have gotten Opera 9.1 to load Yahoo! Mail Beta and say it runs great. They're all on the new release that we just put out, so maybe when the update reaches your account you'll see the same thing.

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Posting "like" they're Yahoo! employees or posting because they *are* Yahoo! employees? ;)

http://updates.mail.yahoo.com/blog/archives/31

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Can't wait to see if the speed will approach gmail! ...or if they figured out how to block the browsers right-click context menu from obscuring the yahoo mail context menu.

Does anyone know what to look for to tell if one has the new build?

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It looks good. I want to love it. I do. But it l o a d s s o s l o w for me. First it logs into mail...then it loads mail...then I get it. On the flipside, I click GMail and WHAM there it is. I think loadtime is a key for acceptance, is it not?

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Yes, load time is a major issue in any web application. We've done a bit in this latest release, which isn't out to all users yet. We're still rolling it out. The next release is going to have resources dedicated to working on launch time, so you should see launch time as well as general performance continuing to improve.

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What about Safari support?

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I've been using the beta for a pretty long time now and it is great. Honestly I don't see why it is still beta because I haven't had any problems with it and I run all kinds of operating systems and browsers.

Yahoo is great at mail and fantasy sports, I don't use them for anything else ;-)

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If you ask me, the beta label is still there because we haven't yet reached feature parity with the classic Yahoo! Mail. There are still some options, for instance, that can only be set through the classic interface. I agree, though. I think it's pretty great, too. :)

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Actually, our internal hack days are quarterly. But close enough. ;)

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I'm running Yahoo! Mail Beta and I don't see anything new at all. Hmmm......

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(love the username) We haven't pushed it out to all users yet. We do a staged roll out of the features, so users will get the update at different times. Hang tight, it's on the way.

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It's the time of webmail upgrades. First Apple .MAC webmail, I have noticed Hotmail looks different and now Yahoo. From all of the once above I like .MAC the most and it works in all browsers....so far. It will be interesting to see what happens to some of those websites when IE7 or Vista gets widely adopted.

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It still doesn't work with Firefox 3.0, do to the DOM rendering updates.

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Minefield, not Firefox.

And it's a little silly to expect YMB to work with a pre-alpha version of a browser that's about six months off from release.

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We were actually contacted by the Firefox guys letting us know about this. I'm pretty sure the developers have already addressed the issue in the codebase, so it will go out in a future release.

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some features might be missing, but existing rendering engine should work nontheless

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Rendering output was changed in Minefield for purposes of complying with the Acid2 test.

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It would be nice if you guys finally take care about Opera too.

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The fact that I've seen people get it running in Opera 9.1 makes me think it won't be long for Opera support. It really seems like the Opera guys are stepping up and filling in a lot of missing functionality in their browser. That makes it much easier on the application developers.

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