I'm really glad they're going to have this update, it makes owning a BROWN ZUNE so much better. I can also say that the zune is better then the ipod, except that the new touch can surf and stream vids from the web, which is all the zune needs to make it the ultimate player.

That's right, zune 2 has some new stuff amazing such as sync with pc with wifi, and cancel the limitation on shareing music three times within three days, but just set a limit to three times, in my point of view sharing music may be still the chief of the new zune
http://www.aimersoft.com/zune-video-converter.html

Buy Sansa and tell MS and Apple to go **** a tree.

Sansa?

iAudio X5L, man. All the way.

I hope they have a paint kit so everyone can have a turd brown one!

Funny thing is...still have never seen a Zune outside of a store.

True.

...but not because they suck. (they do, but that's not why they are selling. iPods suck to and look at those fly off the shelves)

you keep whining about the color when it was, as I recall, one of the best selling colors of the darned thing.

Brown is a hell of a lot more safe than pink if you are at all concerned with matching with, well...anything.

Did they even have a pink one? Can't say I ever really looked...

thats cool that they can deliver so much new functionality via software.

Sounds great, now all they need is to let the rest of the world know outside of the internet.

Microsoft's marketing department seems to have mysteriously disappeared as of late.

I can walk into any Mall and start asking random folks if they have Vista on their PCs and the majority of responses will be, "What's Vista?"

No biggie. The more room they give everyone else to market their competing products the better, I suppose, though it would be nice to see a Zune commercial once in a while to at least get the impression they're trying.

Yeah, but ask them if the have "Microsoft" installed and they'll probably tell you yes.

true... Drives me nuts.

Also, ask someone what Apple is. "Oh yeah, they make ipods" and have no clue they still make computers or OSX.

i get this comment at least twice a month: "dont you just hate macs" or "oh, are you a mac person?"

i work at an almost all mac employer and some of the people here using the last gen white imacs with the word "iMac" in giant grey lettering on the back with an APPLE logo on the front of them, and they have no clue they're using a mac, or what OS X is.

cows

Yeah...people suck.

Ask them if they use "Windows", not "Vista". The "Vista" brand name is still known by a very small (proportionally speaking) amount of users. Even some common OSX users sometimes call their operating system "Windows" just because it's what they're used to call any operating system. They don't make the difference...

Yeah, they do. I can't stand them!

Isn't that what I just said?

Marketing is used to get the name of your product in the minds of the public.

Ask anyone what a Zune is, or what Vista is.

Microsoft's marketing department simply doesn't exist (or shouldn't, for all the good it is doing them.)

great for microsoft for doing the right thing and not force us to buy the new zune, great marketing decision.

I'm not sure I understood your post, but they are not forcing anyone to buy the new Zune. They are updating the old models so they have have access to the same features as the new Zunes.

Maybe you meant to say "do the right thing and not force us to buy the new Zune".

thanks banquo, i was typing a little fast and not proof reading.

I think they just cant afford to alienate the original adopters of their platform so thats why they are offering the upgrade to the older models as well.