It's amazing how many fellow d***heads complain about a $100 price cut of a game console. You can get $800 worth of s*** for $499.99 at Amazon. This includes the 60GB PS3, 6 movies, Bluetooth remote, no tax, and free shipping. The suckers are the ones not taking up this offer. The 80GB system has less features suckers.

The Wii, Xbox 360 and ps3 ALL have their problems, so its not right to judge one over another...and you shouldn't get so worked up over another person
saying one is better than another...

Its all in ones preference.

......and seeing as they are phasing out the 60gb version to replace it with the $600 80gb version we can all see how big a bunch of suckers Sony take their fanclub for.

wow, just by taking a glance at this thread I have come to the conclusion that none ps3 gamers are very angry people.

Think I'll go back to playing Tekken:DR some more on my evil sony ps3 console...lol.

PlayStation 3 is not only an expensive game console but also an excellent video player. It could play high-def Blu-ray movies in addition to standard DVDs with a Blu-ray drive

www.mp4-converter.net/ps3-converter/

so im paying $100 dollars more for a 20 gig drive AND i can't play as many games on it than the cheaper machine? AWESOME...

Batting a thousand Sony. Sorry to interrupt your progress. Keep the updates coming. Maybe for the next upgrade you could ship us an empty box with just a controller and tell us to imagine how awesome the experience is.

Hahahahahahaha. It's Sony, so it wouldn't surprise me.

Less games? Seems you have been fooled by Microsoftr FUD. Perhaps you are stupid..

Don't worry, many people have also been fooled by Microsoft. There are idiots here who still think MGS4 and Unreal Tournement are coming to the 360 sometime soon...

The PMS3 does have the least amount of games out of any system. Just search Amazon.com. Click on browse all games and you'll see how many they have for each system. Last I checked the PMS3 had like 99 and the 360 had around 250. I can't remember what the Wii had, but it was also more than the PMS3.

Keep talking you make yourself look dumber with every post

http://www.gamestop.com/...ind.y=2&find=Search

Well, 360 will get it eventually. Late 2008..

http://www.joystiq.com/2...r-ps3-can-share-mods-wi/

Plus, Microsoft say NO MODS...

As predicted, the Microsoft FUD about getting MGS4 is also lies..

http://kotaku.com/gaming...st-in-series-277361.php

Even Microsoft can't buy this one...

Well, PS3 has been out the shortest, so it does not take a rocket scientist to work out that it's only natural.

Unless of course, your an Xbot, then it's not so obvious..

If you want to talk about game availability without talking about length of console availability, then the PS2 owns the 360, Wii, and PS3..

There really are some stupid Americans on here...

Well you lied about Unreal so we'll have to see how Metal Gear pans out. Not that I really care since the games suck anyway.

That would be early 08. Not a surprise to see more BS from you. Also it has been stated that MGS could end up being a timed exclusive.

"There really are some stupid Americans on here... "

I didn't know you were American???

Nice, it's not enough to be a rabid fanboy all the time shilling for Sony and bashing every company that isn't Sony, now you have to bash people on what country they are from. You really are an a**hole you know, not to mention also being rather stupid yourself. I don't know what country you are from and don't care, I don't label entire nations like that. You though, based on your childish neverending fanboy tantrums and now this, I think it's pretty safe to say that you are a complete idiot.

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Hey rocket sceintist why is it then the Wii has so many games than the PS3? I wonder how much Sony is paying you to spew so much easily proven wrong crap.

I also like your childish attacks on people when they prove you wrong.

While it may not take a rocket scientist, it does require a little knowledge. The Wii released a week after the PS3 in North America...making the Wii the one that's out the shortest amount of time. It's nitpicking, but you're the one who brought it up.

But it seems that you are LOL

The PMS(3) must have gotten to you. Sorry to show you facts like that, but I didn't try to make you cry.

he's just mad because the "sony4evar" tattoo he got wont scrub off

Before everyone freaks out there is a real reason they are removing the chip. Their software emulation has become much better and they do not even need the chip to emulate old games. The PS3 will still be backward compatible.

Also, the PS3 is truly a next generation console. Next generation to the point that we are still waiting for games that even use the hard drive to come out. It seems like this is the PS3's biggest obstacle. XBOX 360 and the Nintendo Wii have loads of games coming out, but for the PS3 we have yet to see something truly amazing. However, because of PS3's hardware, this is inevitable...

"Next generation to the point that we are still waiting for games that even use the hard drive to come out. "

Yea...I'm SURE this has nothing to do with the fact the the PS3 is extremely difficult to develop for and most developers don't have the money or the resources to create something "truly amazing" for a console...especially with so few of them actually sold.

But you can keep waiting for something to come out that justifies your $600 box...just don't hold your breath.

Where are all the complaints about the cost of this one then, huh?

Since when was an 80gb HDD (up from 60gb) 'worth' $100 (the 80gb version remains at $600 doesn't it)?

Hmmmm, seems like those ('til now) ever-so-concerned about game console HDD prices got very quiet all of a sudden.

LMAO.

Isn't the 360 elite packed with 120 gigs? I remember these knee pad dropping Sony fan boys raising hell over the 20 gig 360's. Well I think that 80 gigs just doesn't compare to 120...

thats obvious, and from my understanding you can do a lot more with that 120 gigs on the xbox like downloading gobs of game demos, marketplace games, ripping music to it (i might be wrong here, i heard they were pushing towards using media center equiped windows pcs to stream music), etc, etc.

As I'm still in the market for my choice or choices for a next generation console, I'm watching and comparing the wii, xbox, and ps3 and in my mind a cheap 360 and a wii offer WAY more cool points than a ps3. I've seen the wii. its cool. i've seen the 360. its cool. everytime i see a ps3, i wonder where the "awesome killer best ever" graphics are suppose to be. maybe they're there and im just not seeing them on the demo machines, but why am i not? seems to be a lack of quality control

uhm, how stupid r they???

lol @ Sony fans. You seriously are a sucker to buy a PS3 at the moment. When it's a console price ($300) it'll be worth looking at. Until then, I'm just going to laugh at you. Oh, and since you like scams, could you help me import my money from Nigeria?

Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 backwards support both sucks. Nintendo Wii has a 100% backwards support with Gamecube.

I think owners of both those systems should sue their respected company for false advertising saying these systems supported their previous console games.

Shhh, nobody tell him his Wii, IS a gamecube...

Duh, Gamecube and Wii are the same tech (more memory and a overclocked CPU, a new controller in a new box).

Both the 360 and PS3 are significantly different from their predecessors, both have different CPU arhitectures and OS.

I would disagree that the PS3 backwards support sucks. On hardware it's 97% of all PS2/PS1 games, on software emu it's 92%, 2,700 titles in all (on Euro units).

On a 360, it does suck, 167 titles supported.

"Konami sees little PS3 price cut impact"

http://www.reuters.com/a...0924355620070710?rpc=92

Doesn't really affect me much, can just install a better HDD in my current 60GB PS3.

Bring on the PS4!!! It'll have a wii remote with a built in HD-DVD at the rate sony is going!!

why would they swap the leading next gen DVD (blu-ray) for the failing one (HD-DVD)??...if anything the xbotch 360.5 will have a blu-ray drive...

oh and if you knew anything you would realize that the tilt tech in the SIXAXIS is actually more advanced than the Wiimote...

LOL

thats funny stuff

Most reviews state it feels like it was added on and served no real purpose. Admit they stole the idea from Nintendo.

"oh and if you knew anything you would realize that the tilt tech in the SIXAXIS is actually more advanced than the Wiimote..."

please explain how it is more advanced...

under current software yes it serves no real purpose but hopefully when they get a game that uses the tech to its ability it'll look like a nice little feature.

You'd have to be pretty stupid to waste money on an inferior Blu-Ray player, at least when it comes to playing HD movies. HD-DVD has much better audio and video quality.

Unless you're archiving large amounts of data from a computer, Blu-Ray is completely useless.

The tilt tech was tacked on as a last minute effort and has not been utilized that much yet, its a half a** version of the wii-mote

is that why there is only 1 movie studio supporting HD-DVD exclusively, while many are blu-ray only studios?...yeah i thought so...doesnt make sense...

Everyone knows Blu-ray's are more expensive, so if they were also of lesser quality then why would it be the format of choice for most studios?....hmm...you lose...

unfortunately none of the developers knew it existed until last minute

Money talks Metfanant.

Jebus, are you shills still trying to push that 'Microsoft to go Blu-ray' sometime soon BS?

(I guess it's also getting about time you loons begin pretending Universal are going to go neutral again at any moment.)

FFS how many times do you have to be told to take you ludicrous leg-humping desperation elsewhere?

wanna tell me then why supperior betamax lost out over crappy vhs?

Its so advanced that no one has actually seen it used effectively yet. Every review mention that it feels like it was just added on. Good try though.

Maybe you should come out of your moms basement there is more than one exclusive to hd.

Looking at the amount and quality of games it looks like they didn't know the PS3 even existed. Where are the games.?

dude, you're trying to punk someone on a forum with false info?? weak...

that's because if you swing a ps3 controller like a sword you look like a retard.

each controller is kissed my magical pixies at the factory

Because they said porn couldn't be released on betamax. Everyone knows that.

It cost more. $$$$ Sound familiar? What people don't understand is all these numbers everyone is spouting don't mean **** to the average consumer. They don't even know wtf a GB is. All they are going to know is this one is $X and this one is $X. Not everyone is as tech savy as people that read a site dedicated to computer news everyday!

I'm afraid to break it to you but if you swing the Wii controller like a sword you look like a retard too.

In fact if you buy a repackaged GameCube with a gimmick remote as a "next-gen" console, i.e. the Wii you look like a retard. Don't worry though, there are a lot of you out there so just like AOL was crap and yet the dominant ISP for a while so too the Wii is crap and will dominate console sales. Bravo Nintendo for nailing this one.

Australian customers have already had to deal with this, as mentioned in the article the PAL version doesn't have the emotion engine.

It hasn't affected too many people in Australia tho, because hardly anyone has purchased a ps3

You are joking? It's the biggest selling console out there, outselling the Wii and 360...

http://play.tm/story/11368

And if Sony told you that the PS3 was more powerful than one of today's super computers that fill an entire room would you still believe them?

I read the article that you quoted, all I can say is LOL

That article is hilarious. Indeed: read it closely.

Actually IBM Cell multi-core CPU is used in superocomputer setups.

those are 4 power4 chips clustered onto single chip running at 600-900mhz where a dozen or more are embedded on a single motherboard. that is no where near the same animal you're getting in a ps3 chip. those computers are focused on cost and power efficiency, not wowee graphics.

What are you talking about ?

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http://www.theregister.c...05/05/27/ibm_demos_cell/
Published Friday 27th May 2005 15:36 GMT

IBM demonstrated a blade server board based on the Cell architecture at the E3 show this week, and reportedly plans to sell the boards in rack-based server systems.

The board carried two Cell processors running at up to 2.8Ghz, as well as 1GB of DRAM split across two chips, according to Nikkei’s TechOn service. The demo box ran on Linux.

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http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/19198.wss


New IBM Blade Computers Speed Business Data up to Ten Times Faster

IBM BladeCenter High Performance Systems Redefine Use of Computers in Corporate Datacenters



NEW YORK, NY - 08 Feb 2006: IBM today introduced powerful new blade computing systems that enable data to travel up to 10 times faster than previously possible across corporate networks.

New IBM blades and switches announced today include:

* A nine-core IBM Cell blade -- the first Cell-based product from IBM. Designed for businesses that need the breakthrough capabilities of the IBM Cell BE processor to tackle tasks involving compute-intensive workloads and broadband media applications, the Cell blade is the first multi-core blade computer.

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Is backwards compatibility really such a horrible flaw in the PS3?

I can't play my old DOS games on my PC unless I run a software emulator and even then there are still glitches in a small percentage of the games. How many next generation consoles or computers are 100% compatible with legacy software or hardware?

I still have my PS2 for those games that have problems on the PS3 but 98% of my library works on the newer console so I'm not complaining. Now if only I could find a 386 with Sound Blaster AWE32 and ATI Rage 128 graphics!

I can think of one, its call the Wii

yea once you purchase the game again. try playing your n64 games, oops cartridges don't work.
my old ps1 disks would still run and yet i wouldn't have to buy another copy of a game i already own.
your example is not valid.

Ok

Point taken, cant just jump back two generations and play the old cartridges, I did think about that when I purchased my Wii,

I went into a 2nd hand games trading store, Sold all of my N64, Megadrive, NES, SNES, Master system games for roughly the same price as they cost to buy from the nintendo online store.

Because the Wii == Gamecube...

You still on that kick too! Amusing I must say.

Whatever meaningless BS makes you feel better, but it must hurt being unable to deny that Nintendo is thoroughly kicking Sony's a** all over the world in console sales. Well it must hurt for a fanboy anyway. Normal people don't get all emotional and defensive about who makes their game console, television, toaster or whatever.

Man when ps2 was released they had mainly good news this sucks lol

oh and hey....xbots....is M$ planning to screw you over YET AGAIN?!....

please tell me that is not a FOURTH 360 model sitting on the stage

http://www.ps3forums.com...d=1153&d=1184096849

You linked to a forum called ps3 forums, no that won't be biased at all...

Are you sane?

ROFL...Yes because giving the consumer a choice is screwing you over. Assuming they do come out with another model, this is not a bad thing. I would rather have too much choice than too little like the POS3.

its a picture you fool....

no, what its really doing is screwing over the already established customer base...at launch you were promised that the premium was the top of the line next gen system....we come to find out that maybe it was not...it might have been rushed...features left out to save costs etc...so enter the 360 Elite....bigger HD, HDMI (2 things MS bashed Sony for including because they were "un-needed") and it creeps towards the PS3 price...

now enter this mystery sku...what do we get now...a 200GB hard drive? HD-DVD drive included? (or are they throwing in the towel and going blu-ray?)...will it come with another $50-$100 price jump?...hope not for M$'s sake...

I honestly hope its the 65nm version of the 360...But if it is, why introduce it as a 4th model? the average consumer knows nothing about the difference between 90nm and 65nm....and will likely just buy whatever is cheaper...or if they are told "65nm is better" then you're talking about A LOT of dusty 90nm Elite and Premium boxes sitting on shelves...

M$ seems to be going the PC gaming route with the 360...offering periodical hardware updates on the console...what happens to the older consoles (core, premium) do we run into problems down the road with new games that wont work on the older consoles because of new features??...whats next...better video cars, faster cpus??

How many times has Sony changed the PS2 I guess that doesn't count. How many times did they design a new motherboard for the system? They got you to buy the wonderful hard drive add-on only to make no games for it. Then the great slim came out, guess what no more hard drive support.

If anyone buys a product thinking that it is never going to be improved for its' lifespan they need to get a clue. Electronics...They get revised. Thats the way it works. If you think the POS3 is going to be exactly the same as it is now 5-6 years from now you are severely misinformed.

Well, since you probably didn't read the rules or posted the wrong link, the only place that link goes is to a forum site for a login and password, fool.

crucially none of the PS2 changes affected it's functionality. Something Microsoft don't understand...

"what its really doing is screwing over the already established customer base"

How?

"at launch you were promised that the premium was the top of the line next gen system"

When? They didn't promise anything.

"features left out to save costs etc"

So? Options are good. I don't care about HD-DVD anyway (or Blu-Ray). I don't need Wi-Fi either, plain old eithernet is faster anyway.

"M$ seems to be going the PC gaming route with the 360...offering periodical hardware updates on the console"

Nice.

"what happens to the older consoles (core, premium)"

Who cares.

"do we run into problems down the road with new games that wont work on the older consoles because of new features??"

Nope. They already said they won't put games on HD-DVD. It's only used for movie playback.

The PS2 Hard Drive. Remember that? Final Fantasy required that. That sounds crucial to me.

Nothing MS has done is affected its' "functionality" either. I can still play EVERY game out there just fine.

Like to see you play FF on the slim PS2, Oh yeah you can't

Having choices is bad. It makes more sense to let Sony decide what you want. They know what's best for you. Ha-ha! The HD-DVD drive for the Xbox360 is just a bolt-on! Choices suck. It's better to be forced to pay an exorbitant amount of money for something most people don't want/need, like a Gay-Ray drive. Oh wait... :(

"if they are told "65nm is better" then you're talking about A LOT of dusty 90nm Elite and Premium boxes sitting on shelves..."

Nah, that's impossible. All the extra shelf space is already taken up by PS3s collecting dust.

"M$ seems to be going the PC gaming route with the 360...offering periodical hardware updates on the console..."

Funny, because the whole idea behind consoles is that all the hardware is the same. Microsoft never changed any of the core components, as much as you'd like to pretend they did. Yeah, they included a bigger HD (so did Sony) and some new types of output, but the rest stayed and will stay the same. I mean, Microsoft could've removed something from the Xbox360 to save money...I don't know, like an emulation chip they initially included with the console? Oh wait... :)

Just for Hollywood...

"Clearing up the trouble made PlayStation 3 profitableseveral months ago, giving the company room to cut prices,analyst Doherty said. Microsoft still loses money on each Xbox360 it sells, he said."

source:http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aYWkGuoeuipo&refer=home

is this actually possible!? Is Sony doing well? Better than M$ even?

pwnt!

Oh Jesus BetaNews....do you HAVE to write in such anti Sony tones?....what horrendous journalism...yes, software emulation is not as good as hardware emulation, but it has been like this since LAUNCH in Europe, and not many have complained, and the list continually gets bigger of supported games....and just for your information the 60GB models DO NOT include the Emotion Engine anymore...only the ones remaining on the shelves contain it...from this point on all production does NOT include the emotion engine...

and maybe if you were actual journalists...you would go out and research how many titles it DOES play...instead of creating such an extremely vague article

its not BN fault sony is doing this.. afterall it is a news site, do you want BN to worship sony or somthing, news is news no matter how much a fanboy like it or not

Because you don't like what they cover, doesn't make it factually unsound. Your rant, however, is a *very* good illustration of bias. Bravo.

ROFL!!! Could you be any more of a Sony Cheerleader Met. Now the articles here are biased are they! LMAO

Negative news is negative news. Live with it. I don't see you whining and moaning when negative news is posted about Microsoft.

If they can't play the Old Games, then we will have none to play on it.

Come on theres some awesome titles on the PS3,

Theres ummmmm oh yeah that oh wait no thats on xbox,

what about that game that comes free with it that everyone loves playing with the sports oh wait wrong again thats the Wii

It can play Quebert damit!

The best game on the system and its emulated go figure.

But, but Steve Austin said it was just as good!

My Euro PS3 is fine in PS2 and PS2 compatability. I have 80 games and every single one works. A couple of them have glitches in FMV sequences.

That's it. Don't let any of the XBots fool you. PS2 Software emulation is actually VERY good. Wlist admitably not as good as the hardware BC, it's not very far behind (92% vs 97%).

It's still over 2,800 Euro PS1 and PS2 titles supported.. I would expect the US numbers to be the same or better by August (as BC has improved in every firmware update, from the initial 1.60 81% working).

Remember 95% of the lame posters here are Americans, and have NO first hand experience of PS3 compatability, and are purely passing along the FUD.

The article here is also wrong. The software BC is ONLY for PS2 games, PS1 is handled in hardware, and it's not the total PS2 hardware removed, it's only the PS2 Emotion Engine. The GS chip is still present in Euro and US PS3, even the new ones (assuming they are the same as Euro).

Thats a good thing, you actually have games to play on the PS3

sssssssss....burn. lol

lol too true

Woops...looks like we have yet another exclusive jumping ship.

http://e3.gamespot.com/s...;tag=latestnews;title;0
Kitaue no doubt would like a cheaper PS3 in order to spike sales of the machine and have a larger installed user base in place for Konami's highly anticipated PS3 exclusive Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. However, the executive said Konami might have to bring the series to non-Sony systems in order to make its development money back.

And I predict it 2 days before a statement that the Xbox have taken a sentence out of context, and posted it all over the net..

Just like the Haze on 360 (false)
Just like DMC4 (false)

There are over 50 PS3 exclusives....

http://www.ps3land.com/article-419.php

ROFL. 11 confirmed. The rest is "speculation." Nice try.

*laughing*

Not to mention the fact that the article is from 5 Jun 2006...

Now that is funny...

"Just like DMC4 (false)"

True! I downloaded a video for it on Xbox Live on the 360.

Haze, I never heard of it. Since they lied about DMC4 I wouldn't doubt if it was still coming out for the 360 too.

But that's awsome that MGS4 is coming to the 360. There's no need for the over priced PMS3 anymore.

Funny I see some on the list that are coming to the 360 and others on the list come out as a launch title and were aweful.

LMAO! Do you try to make a fool out of yourself? DMC was in MS E3 press conference. Now your point was?

You can quote random percentages and large numbers in the thousands, which I'm sure you pulled out of your back side, but that's not the point here. SOFTWARE EMULATION WILL NEVER EVER BE AS GOOD AS HARDWARE BASED EMULATION, NO MATTER HOW MANY NUMBERS YOU QUOTE. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT SONY CHANGES TO THE HARDWARE ITSELF BY REMOVING THE HARDWARE EMULATION CHIP. THIS IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE IN THE CONSOLE BUSINESS.

Sorry about typing that in all caps, I'm sure it still won't get through. You're going to keep quoting numbers, posting links and ranting about how awesome software emulation works for you. Sony screwed their customers yet again, just to save a few bucks. Plain and simple. All your ranting and raving won't change this fact.

Sorry, MGS is a PS3 Exclusive... As is Haze, as is Unreal Tournement, As Is DMC, as is Gran Turismo, as is R&C TOD, as is Motorstorm2, as is Drakes Fortune, as is Killzone, as is Warhawk..

Oh dear...

Yet again you look like a fool. MGS is possible only a timed exclusive. Unreal Tournament is a VERY short timed exclusive. DMC is NOT an exclusive. It was even in MS E3 press conference. Oh dear...

I would go through and name all of MS exlusives, but gosh you know there are just too many to list. Unlike Sony's.

hey why don't you open your eyes and look at the list again. There are only 11 confirmed, but some of the games that don't say anything next to them are already out!

He is to easy to prove tp not know what he is talking about. Half the time he can't even read the links he posts.

Ok,
Virtua FIghter with online play, BioShock, Mass effect, Blue Dragon, Project Gothem Racing, Haze, Oh and did I mention Halo3 just to name a few.

You are such a troll like the PS3 is the only system to exclusives. Get over yourself already.

If the demo of Gran t is any indication of the game then it sucks.

damn, wrong topic.

well if its the same as us in europe sony will state over 1000 working titles, but sony class any game that plays as working, its a big pile of crap as every game ive tried has looked dog awful, with jagged edges and tearing graphics or a total crash, the software emulation sucks and they say you have a ps2/1 use that instead.

this is what David Reeves said when the ps3 launched in Europe, and he has been true to his word as the backwards compatibility updates have been dwindling

"Rather than concentrate on PS2 backwards compatibility, in the future, company resources will be increasingly focused on developing new games and entertainment features exclusively for PS3"

http://www.scee.presscen...D=4331&NewsAreaID=2

this is the list of "working" games: http://faq.eu.playstatio...T!73331366?locale=en_GB

imho *** "No known issues to date" = not tested

yea its not like they still offer over a 1000 games backwards compatible comapred to the .. what is it 2 xbox titles?
that one chip costs alot of money and they cut the price $100, you think it happens magically?

It's actually 2,700 titles.

1,070 PS1 titles and 1,700 PS2 titles..

Compared to 2 xbox titles, is that? Well, point well made there. You're truly on form today.

Really? I thought it was 24,973,000 titles. You have to make up bigger numbers. It just sounds better.

You know, the $100 bump on the price would have made the PS3 a little bit more attractive, but now they've taken a step in the complete opposite direction.

the 80 gig ver has the emotion engine(EE) removed so it actually costs less to make than the 60 gig now because there is only a $5 difference in the cost of the hard drives.

how long before the more expensive one (60 with hardware EE) gets removed like the 20 gig ps3 and a price drop to gain favour with the 80gig that is cheaper to produce than either of the previous two.

what a crappy relaunch sony are attempting, do they really thinke ppl are that stupid?

"do they really thinke ppl are that stupid?"

Yes.