Apple: 13 M iPhones sold in total, 2.6 M Macs sold last quarter
By Scott M. Fulton, III | Published October 22, 2008, 11:58 AM
5:23 pm EDT October 21, 2008 - During Apple's afternoon earnings call for its fiscal fourth quarter on Tuesday afternoon, CFO Peter Oppenheimer reported that any slowdown on iPod unit growth was effectively stopped, along with record Mac and iPhone sales.
Since the premiere of the iPhone 3G in July, Apple has sold 6.9 million units according to company estimates -- which compares to 6.1 million first-generation iPhones sold over the entire life of the product up to the 3G launch date.
And incredibly, Oppenheimer noted, the company shipped some 2.6 million Macs, including both desktops and notebooks. This compared to an estimated 2.2 million units shipped in the fourth calendar quarter of 2007, and 1.57 million units shipped in Q4 of 2006.
This during a quarter where revenue shot up 27% annually to $7.9 billion, and net income grew 26% to $1.14 billion. These figures use accepted GAAP reporting principles, although the company inaugurated new non-GAAP adjusted reporting techniques as an alternative for this quarter.
"Apple has become the world's third largest mobile phone supplier. I know it's crazy, but it's true," reported CEO Steve Jobs this afternoon, making an unusual special guest comment. Jobs added that Apple outshipped Research in Motion during the previous quarter, by virtue of its 3G iPhone launch. "There's no guarantee that sustained sales will equal initial sales," Jobs warned.
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12:00 pm EDT October 22, 2008 - The rate of growth in Mac shipments in the US remains just enough to maintain Apple's #6 position nationwide, behind Toshiba in most estimates. But it is catching up, albeit slowly, and with a competitor that sells mostly notebook computers to all market segments including the "value" customer at the low end.
As Apple CFO Peter Oppenheimer reported during yesterday's conference call, Mac sales for his company could actually have been higher had sales not tapered off in September, due not to the economic slowdown in his opinion, but rather customer anticipation of Apple's updated MacBook and MacBook Pro lines.
"We're pleased to have shipped over 2.6 million Macs, which was a new company record for any quarter," Oppenheimer said. "This represents 21% year-over-year growth, and was higher than the overall PC market rate of growth for the September quarter, based on the latest estimates published by IDC."
Analysts currently project the average rate of PC market growth for the year at about 14% to date, a number which will probably decline as the year plays out. But during the last holiday quarter, Apple experienced a surge in Mac sales representing almost 40% annual growth. Still, 21% growth in a typically seasonally slow quarter is impressive, but probably right in line with #5 Toshiba's growth rate at present.
If Apple really wanted to grow faster, it could conceivably attack the low end of the market. But that's not in the company's DNA, according to CEO Steve Jobs; and what's more, he doesn't feel there's a growing market for value-priced PCs.
"This particular downturn [in the economy] is not creating a market of cheaper computers," Jobs told one analyst. "That market has existed for some time, and there are parts of that market that we choose not to play in. I think when people want a product of the class that we make, over and over again, people have done the price comparisons and we're actually quite competitive. So we choose to be in certain segments of the market, and we choose not to be in certain segments of the market.
"And the question is, is the downturn going to drive some of our customers to those lower segments of the marketplace...to buy lesser products?" he continued. "I will be surprised if that happens in large numbers, and I actually think that there are a tremendous number of customers that we don't have in the Windows world or in the other 99% of the phone market that we don't have, who would like to -- and can afford to -- buy Apple products. So we'll see what the ratio of those two things are, but we're not tremendously worried."
The tremendously successful launch of the iPhone 3G catapulted Apple, by its own estimates, above Research in Motion in sales for the quarter...even though it's just with one phone. And of course, there's a downside to that fact, but for now, Jobs preferred to bask in the glow of the 3G's success.
"Apple beat RIM! In our most recent quarter, Research in Motion reported selling 6.1 million BlackBerry devices, compared to our most recent quarter sales of 6.9 million iPhones. Apple outsold RIM last quarter, and this is a milestone for us. RIM is a good company that makes good products. And so it is surprising that, only after 15 months in the market, we could outsell them in any quarter," Jobs stated.
"But even more remarkable," he continued, "is this: Measured by revenues, Apple has become the world's third largest mobile phone supplier. I know this sounds crazy, but it's true." According to his rundown, Nokia reaped $12.7 billion for the quarter, followed by Samsung at $5.9 billion, Apple at $4.6 billion, Sony Ericsson at $4.2 billion, LG at $3.4, Motorola at $3.2, and finally RIM at the #7 slot with $2.1 billion.
Part of the reason for that, CFO Oppenheimer admitted, was Apple's record revenues reaped from carriers worldwide that support the iPhone.
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no HTC on the list and they make some of the better high tech toy phones...
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|I've never got a chance to buy Apple products because here in India, they're priced at least $400-$600 more than in the US. Will have to befriend someone in the US, but he won't be able to get me a Mac Pro.
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|I use to despise Apple and their products. I bought an Ipod Touch for my wife out of curiousity and now were hooked. I bought her an Iphone and an Idock for the ipod. I guess theres a reason why a product is so sucessfull lol. I cant say the same thing about the Mac OS because i grew up with windows 3.1 . I am so use to windows i know every settings, registry like the back of my hand.
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|I have two iPods and I hate them. The only thing I like is the ability to control it via my touch screen in the dash. The GUI is better than the iPods and I can find everything much faster.
I can also plug in a USB stick and have the same controls but there are no 80GB memory sticks.
My wife likes her Nano but it's already full and I bought the 8GB. I hate Apples shiny turds.
The iPhone will connect directly to my AMX processor and will display and fully control my touch panel by simply typing in the static IP with VNC. Probably the coolest reason I could think of for buying one. The iPod touch will also do the same thing but only if it's connected to the WiFi.
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|Its always instructive to listen to someone who tells you how he has repetitively bought umpteen products about which he then procedes to tell you he hates.
One would wonder if after the first 3 or 4 he might get a clue and connect the one lonely lost feeling with the other and learn to control himself.
8ut then, he is also a Blu_Ray fanboy..... 'Nuff said.
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|So having enough money to buy one for you and your wife (who knows, you might have differing tastes) automatically makes your opinions on the product in question invalid?
*laughs*
Yeah... that makes sense.
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|I have no control and I'm not a BD fanboy. They just happened to get it right after a year.
I only have a dozen or so BD's.
I think a lot people with iPods have buyers remorse when they find out how badly it performs compared to a $79 Sansa.
I have a lot of products I hate and wish I never bought. I am concerned over your infatuation with me and everything I do.
The difference between you and I is I don't have to choose sides based on a single purchase. All 360 owners are fanboys because they bought one and want everyone else to buy one too so they bash the PS3.
When you own all three consoles, you can make objective statements about them.
Same goes for MP3 players. I own two iPods and a Sansa and I would choose the Sansa any day.
The world is full of "me too" sheep and the Apple fanboys are among the most pathetic I have ever come across.
I'm sure you fall under some fanboy category, you are probably a BOSE or Monster cable customer who is dumb enough to be brainwashed by a teen salesperson at Best Buy who gets a spiff from your foolish purchase.
Go **** yourself.
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|Actually, the first one was a Christmas gift from the company I subcontract for, which is why I bough all kinds of Apple docks and cables.
The second one (Nano) was a gift to my wife because she wanted one but not the lumbering 80GB version and we already had all the direct connect devices.
I had already owned a Sansa prior to getting the 80GB because I would have never bought an iPod with my own money. It killed me to buy hers as I hate sheepism more than anything else.
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|"I hate sheepism more than anything else."
Oh!? I thought that would be gay liberal foreigners?
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|"I think a lot people with iPods have buyers remorse when they find out how badly it performs compared to a $79 Sansa."
No they don't you moron. Any Tom, d*** and Harry can visit an Apple store, test it out and make sure they like it before purchasing it.
Apparently you've failed to do this multiple times since you own more than one iPod. Geez, you really are touched aren't you? So you had to buy more than one iPod to realize you "hate" it?
LOL.
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|Wow internetworld7...I only hope that some day I can type such intelligent and witty posts as you.
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|You're an idiot Windoze user. How do you expect to do that?
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|By using his brain.
It gives him an automatic advantage over you. :)
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|Yet another witty and intelligent post by interworld7! It doesn't hurt to dream does it?
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|Easy, the fanboys have great difficulty with facts as they dwell in the nether regions of emotion, innuendo, and ignorance.
And they scurry like roaches in the sunlight if facts regarding Apple are positive.
Isn't the silence deafening? ;-)
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|Apple is for losers..?
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|Lol the "facts." Whatever you say lol.
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|Or we were (unusually) at uni.
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|Read the article and the figures cited.
Or do you need the EU Court to interpret that for you as well?
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|Who said I was referring to this article? That was more aimed at your "possy's" attempt to make people believe that Apple hardware which is the same as PC hardware is somehow superior.
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|I do at every opportunity but he is suspiciously unresponsive.
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