Apple refreshes its iMac line

By Ed Oswald, BetaNews

April 28, 2008, 11:44 AM

Apple's consumer desktops have received faster processors and better graphics cards, which may only add momentum to a product line analysts are saying may finally be stealing market share from Vista.

In fact, Apple credits the iMac as contributing to the ability for the company to grow its overall computer business at a rate of almost three times the industry average: Apple reported a 51 percent increase in computer sales last quarter.

This fast growth has also equaled increasing market share as NPD says that the Mac is now accounting for about 17 percent of all US PC sales.

A 6MB L2 cache and 1066 MHz front side bus is now standard across the line. On the 24-inch model, customers are able to select a 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor and a NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS graphics card as a build-to-order option.

Built-in 802.11n networking, Bluetooth, Firewire, USB 2.0, and Ethernet port are also standard on all iMacs, as well as iLife '08, which includes the company's suite of digital lifestyle applications, including iPhoto, iMovie, and iTunes.

As usual, Apple is offering three different models for customers to choose from. The base model retails for $1,199 and includes a 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo processor, 1 GB of RAM, 250 GB hard drive, and ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT with 128 MB GDDR3 memory.

The mid-range model at $1,499 includes a 2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo chip, 2 GB of RAM, 320 GB hard drive, and a ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 256 MB GDDR3 memory.

Finally, the top-of-the-line model has the same feature set as the mid-range, except for the addition of a 2.8 GHz Core 2 Duo processor. That model retails for $1,799.

In addition to the build-to-order options listed above, consumers can select up to a 1 TB hard drive, 4 GB of RAM, as well as pre-installed software and wireless mouse and keyboard.

All models are available immediately, the company said.

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By burfadel

posted Apr 29, 2008 - 2:19 AM

I always find it funny when MAC fans criticise Microsoft for being a monopoly. Microsoft only monopolises the operating system market, Apple tries to monopolise the OS AND the actual computer itself!

If MACS were more popular and won the PC vs MAC (I know a MAC is a PC, just using the accepted naming)!, we'd be much, much worse off now! Since the way Apple operates there wouldn't be the competition for hardware parts as there is today, and competition drives innovation, and value to the consumers. There would still be development to encourage people to buy a new, operpriced computer, but not to the same extent as current.

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By adento

posted Apr 29, 2008 - 1:54 AM

Notice this very important paragraph:

"This fast growth has also equaled increasing market share as NPD says that the Mac is now accounting for about 17 percent of all US PC sales."

It's accounting for about 17 percent of *US* PC sales. How much is it accounting for in world wide sales? I'm willing to bet it's negligible. The US is one of the very few places in the world where, even with an ailing economy, people are stupid enough to buy flashy, over priced products they saw on TV ads or were convinced by friends it's the trendy thing to do. Speaking out against Apple and its products, even when it's the truth, is much like doing the same about Linux, Sony, etc. You have a small group of very vocal fans who will cut you off at the knees for it. This still won't change the following facts:

iMacs are a niche product.
iMacs have never been a threat to the PC market.
iMacs are not a threat to the PC market now and they never will be in the future.

There is healthy competition in the PC market, something that cannot be said about iMacs. Thus Apple will never succeed in taking any serious chunk of the PC segment with their flashy, over priced, proprietary garbage.

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By pitdingo2

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 6:26 PM

Just looked at dell.com and their "XPS All in one" desktops are weaker, and cost more than the iMacs. LOL. Plus they run that slow and buggy M$ Vista OS.

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By xyzcb1

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 9:53 PM

look at the piece of $h1t mac. Can't understand why moron price twice or more for a under preform system? Did I mentioned moron, that could be the reason.

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By tscar13

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 8:46 PM

If you look at the other XPS system that aren't the all-in-one type, their systems are more configurable and less expensive. When you take into account that Apple products are "designed in America but made in China" that tells you a lot about how overpriced they are for what you get.

Now I am not saying that Dell doesn't have it's own problems but you get more bang for your buck with them. So yes both companies have problems with the systems they create but why spend close to 800-1000 more for "bell bottoms" just to be hip and cool? Just like bell bottoms (thank god) Apple will lose it's luster and then you'll have to move on to the next "hip and cool" gizmo. So decide what it is that you wish to use the computer for and then go from there.

Have a nice Day:) and use whatever system you feel comfortable with.

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By pitdingo2

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 10:07 PM

but then it is not an all-in-one form factor. Apple to Oranges. That is a key selling point of the iMac line and the purpose of Dell's all in one iMac clone line.

the iMac is more powerful and cheaper than the Dell clone line. Pretty funny...

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By tscar13

edited Apr 28, 2008 - 10:31 PM

Last time I checked the Apple site they only offer this silly all-in-one to consumers and, yes, I think Dell's and HP's all-in-one are silly. You Either go laptop or desktop. a Desktop will always tend to give you more power for your money than a laptop or all-in-one. If you go with a laptop then you go for the mobility factor.

These all in ones may be nice pieces of furniture but don't give you the flexibility you need and with Apple's well-known piss poor service, if something goes wrong you'll pay out the A**.

Fact is none of the programs cited in this article are free or pre-installed- you have to pay for them. That's not a shot at Apple but BN.

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By pitdingo2

posted Apr 29, 2008 - 8:00 AM

Which programs are not free? iLife? That _is_ free with all Apple computers.

Perhaps you were thinking of Apples Office Productivity suite, iWork?

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By ToeKneeC

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 6:52 PM

Vista with SP1 kicks butt man. And if you are an Apple fan, hard to cut down Vista as it "borrowed" a lot of ideas from OSX.

Show me a website showing leopard faster then Vista SP1 on items like compressing, photoshop filters, database items, coping files, then we can talk. Both systems are pretty darn quick on the same specs.

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By pitdingo2

posted Apr 29, 2008 - 6:12 PM

Everything i have read shows how Vista is slower than XP on the same hardware. Have you read different?

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By cescam66

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 8:26 PM

yes pingadingo show us

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By jeffreybt2

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 3:51 PM

iMac, 24-inch, 3.06GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (w/ 4GB RAM 1TB HDD) $2,649.00 (from apples site)

Custom system with the same specs and a 24" monitor + bluetooth keyboard/mouse = 1,607.70
so you are paying $1041 extra for the look.
thats insane.

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By pitdingo2

posted Apr 29, 2008 - 8:07 AM

Is it an "all-in-one" computer? If not, it is an apples to oranges comparison.

Is my grandmother going to build her own computer?

By your logic buying _any_ laptop would be "insane".

Different machines have different purposes. If you know enough to build your own computer, you are not going to look to Apple, Dell, HP, etc... for a machine. But the majority of computer users out there do not know how to build a computer nor have the desire.

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By Setian^Stalker

posted Apr 29, 2008 - 4:47 AM

Notice how Mr Apple fanboy himself here skipped over your post but happily pointed out that Apple was cheaper than Dell

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By ToeKneeC

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 6:27 PM

MS needs to do a commercial on that :) Have the Mac Guy there with the new iMac, the PC guy with a new PC same specs, Vista on the screen, IE7 open showing his bank account...with 1041 in his savings :)

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By bousozoku

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 9:32 PM

...as someone uses earlier phished information through IE7 (though Safari doesn't have anti-phishing support but it doesn't have ActiveX support either) and removes the $1041 right in front of his eyes. ;-)

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By CT2001

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 3:27 PM

Cut those prices in half and I'll take a look. :)

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By Morsel

edited Apr 29, 2008 - 1:03 AM

As it occur to you guys that the only reason you are running a Windows PC is because of its price tag? I mean come on; the reason why Microsoft has 90% dominance in the OS market is not because they're better, but simply because they're cheaper. This is actually the ONLY reason why. Always was, since the days that Microsoft started licensing DOS to IBM, NEC and so on and so fourth. Gates' vision was always about monopolizing the market and his plan was executed to perfection. While Apple was out there being innovative and trying to show the world how superior their stuff was, Microsoft was licensing its crappy Windows platform to every damn PC maker it could get its fingers on.

But now today, at last, people are tired of getting screwed and having problems with their PCs. It’s no mystery why Vista is not selling. People are now slowly realizing that they don’t have to stick to Windows anymore, they have a choice now.

I don’t know if Apple will ever dominate the OS desktop market but I do believe that times are changing, trends are changing and it won’t be Microsoft leading the way anymore.

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By gchenry

posted Apr 29, 2008 - 5:43 AM

The reason you are running Windows is due to MS
marketing practicing. The One Laptop Per Child group indicated they would use linux due to the price (free). MS immediately came out with an offer of 1,000,000 licenses at $3.00 a pop. The average consumer believes that there is free choice of operating systems but don't realize the same sort of deals are presented to every computer manufacturer on the planet. Get the picture?? They are contractually locked in to
Windows.. the next time you go to a retailer ask them how many copies of Vista are sold over the counter. One of the reasons support will be
withdrawn is that they want force every Windows
user, software designer and equipment manufacturer to be locked in to MS. This time it didn't work as the product is crap. Apple does the same thing but they have a tougher row to hoe. Now look at a dell PC with Linux and wonder why it costs the same or more than a box with Vista and then think what Linux would look like if it had billions in development money thrown at it. The business methods of both
MS and Apple are exactly the same as those used
by the mafia.

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs please don't break my
legs or run over my children for having an opinion.

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By Morsel

posted Apr 29, 2008 - 9:19 AM

Interesting point.

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By preinterpost

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 2:02 PM

On another site it reads despite the 1066 FSB these ship with 800 memory. I'm sure the turtle's marketing crooks have a good spin on it.

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By ir0nw0lf

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 4:39 PM

Eh? Intel processors run on a quad pumped bus, hence the 1066 MHz FSB of the processor is actually 266 MHz quad pumped. Since DDR2 is double rate, 266 MHz doubled is 533 MHz, so technically DDR2-533 is the minimum RAM needed. DDR2-800 is perfectly fine then in these systems.

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By preinterpost

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 5:04 PM

Yes, on 2nd thought you are right. However, related to dual channel rather than multiplier.

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By Trinitycs

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 11:08 PM

Running a system Syncronis vs. ASyncronis to the FSB gives a little advantage, but only if you care about Benchmark scores, aside from that you will see no "real world" benifit. Benchmarks are therotical, and do not portray real world scenearios, for the most part.

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By preinterpost

posted Apr 29, 2008 - 8:15 AM

Depends what your real-life scenario is. For some of us it's real-time DSP or farming out Monte Carlos...

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By KamWest

edited Apr 28, 2008 - 1:34 PM

The growth of Apple is great news for consumers. As Apple sales inch forward Microsoft will have to deal more effectively with the wants of consumers. I was recently going to purchase an HP laptop but decided on a Macbook because I did not care for the questionnaire about which Vista operating system is best for me. I was getting nightmares about choosing the wrong operating system and being stuck with it whilst missing a necessary function. I much preferred the Apple approach to one great operating system for everyone. I imagine that makes the life of the mac IT guys a lot easier too.

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By mjm01010101

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 3:31 PM

Vista IT guys have one question to ask: Do you want bitlocker, or not. The media center and optional add-ons have no functional role in a small/mid-sized business.

Enterprise Vista admins have no questions to ask. Everyone gets vista enterprise, which is the cream of the crop and has every vista tech.

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By internetworld7

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 6:08 PM

Vista enterprise is "cream of the crop"? ROFL!

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By internetworld7

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 3:24 PM

Yes it does make the life of the Mac IT guy a lot easier! Also great decision by the way to get a Mac. I had been a PC users for years and just recently switched to a Mac about 5 months ago and I couldn't be happier. :) I wish I had done this a lot sooner but now the incentives to switch to a Mac are a lot stronger compared to just 2 years ago.

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By preinterpost

posted Apr 29, 2008 - 8:19 AM

I went the other way round a few years ago. Initially grudgingly but all my clients used PCs so there was compromise and hassle for the coolness factor. With XP maturing there was zero reason to grief for the Mac (if you don't install tons of junk, which the Mac doesn't have in such quantity since there about a zillion fewer programs). Now there is Vista SP1 which does not cause any issues on my end but I can see how one would want to stick with XP if one doesn't use current mid or high end systems.

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By dlab21

edited Apr 28, 2008 - 1:49 PM

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By Paul Skinner

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 1:19 PM

Hooray for the magic 3.06GHz number.

/Pentium IV blog

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By shellcodes_coder

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 1:19 PM

Yet another crap from crappy Apple. They are just good at barking. I am much happier with my DELL XPS Gaming desktops with Windows Vista Ultimate loaded and my laptops (with Vista too). No more Mac craps for me again. I sold this crappy iMac. As far as stealing market goes, what a joke? Vista SP1 is a Mac a** kicker which will choke Leopard (the same old boring Mac) to death. Would prefer vista's eye candy than that boring brown eye closing candy. All the computers in my home have already been upgraded to Vista and so in our office too. PCs with Vista rules...booo Apple crap, as usual just be jealous like you've always been because Vista is kicking your a!! :P

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By shelb

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 2:08 PM

shellcodes_coder: Macs run XP (or Vista) just as well as PCs. Vista SP1 is the same old Vista, no real improvement over Vista gold. Everyone knows PC gaming is dead, give up and buy a console. And you bought Vista Ultimate? Way to flush hundreds of dollars down the toilet, it has no useful features above Home Premium.

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By Trinitycs

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 11:02 PM

Unless you are in business and run on a domain, then you need the business features that are in ultimate (AKA the Ability to log into a domain controller). Well, only if you want the ability to watch Blueray/DVD on your business PC with out buying the software seperate.

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By Trinitycs

edited Apr 28, 2008 - 1:56 PM

Really, I would seriously doubt that you were even able to use the Mac OS, and it is made to be easy. That is the problem that PC users have with MacOS, it does things for you, and we like to think about our actions. Vista SP1 is a good step forward for Microsoft, but XP SP3 is still more stable than Vista SP1 and XPSP3 is still not released to the public. And an informed consumer would never buy a mac for Gaming, unless you are interested in titles by blizzard only, the selection is poor, and the games are graphicaly stripped down. That said shellcodes_coder, get a grip on reality, and stop being a microsoft fanboy, and realize that Macs and PCs do what they do respectivly, each has strengths and weaknesses. This understanding comes from 20 years in the industry. I hope it helps.

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By ToeKneeC

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 10:00 PM

"XP SP3 is still more stable than Vista SP1"
Stable - Again, I would rather have my incredibly stable Vista SP1 Media Center (2 HDTV, 2 SD) system in my house over the the same hardware that I had XP Media Center on. I did add 1 more gig of RAM though. For the first time, I can just trust my Media Center to recorded and stay up.

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By Trinitycs

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 10:59 PM

True, I too prefer Vista over Xp; but I have to state the facts that drivers for vista are still not up to par, and far less stable. This is a problem with the security that Microsoft requires for the drivers, not the manufactures Inability to code functioning drivers.

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By ToeKneeC

posted Apr 29, 2008 - 10:10 PM

I am a little luckier then most. I only do Asus Motherboards, Nvidia Video Cards and Creative X-Fi sound cards on all my PCs. Once Nvidia and Creative got serious about Vista in October 2007 (still six months after the retail release), I have been perfect.

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By Paul Skinner

posted Apr 28, 2008 - 1:20 PM

Jesus Christ.

Do you even read through your own posts?

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By tscar13

edited Apr 28, 2008 - 2:42 PM

Did someone call me? oh..you were referring to another JC.

Not a bad system. a Little pricey and the tech support is weak but the specs I just did were not bad.

Add about 800 for "hip and cool bell bottoms" but take away that part of the price and not bad.

Still more expensive than say a Dell with the same specs except not as one of these all-in-ones.

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