RSSCablevision DVR to Store TV Remotely
By Ed Oswald | Published March 28, 2006, 12:00 PM
Watch out TiVo -- Cablevision has plans to make the popular digital video recorder and other hard drive-based models a thing of the past. The company will soon introduce a box that would store recorded programming at the cable facility, rather than in the home.
According to Cablevision, the new service is expected to cut down on the costs associated with installing and repairing hard-drive based DVRs. The cable operator says these DVRs are not as prone to malfunction, and would operate through current set-top boxes without additional equipment.
The company said it had informed the networks of its plans, and argued it was no different than a traditional DVR. Some networks have raised objections to cable companies' plans to record their programming without a renegotiated carriage agreement.
Cablevision also said its service differed from previous offerings since it would only record a program when the customer requests it. Another plan by Time Warner, called Maestro, records just about any program broadcasted without any interaction from the user.
The Cablevision remote DVR service will be tested in the Long Island, New York market for two months, with expectations to expand it across the operator's entire footprint by the end of the year.
Why does everybody think that this will not allow you to record onto tape or dvd. Current DVRs allow you to do that, and this is supposed to replicate the dvr. (at least that is what cablevision is saying). I know because cablevision is my cable provider.
Plus, couldn't we just hit play on the recorded stuff from the dvr and hit record on the vcr or dvd recorder and then keep the shows? These are not movies on demand, that are copy protected, this is over the air tv.
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|Dont like this idea. Might allow for larger storage space but I like the ownership of my saved programming being at my house.
No thanks...hope insight stays away from this idea.
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"It's just a way that they can keep you from recording content at home and burn it to CD/DVD"
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That ~and~ they can charge you over and over every time you watch a fav program.
There's ZERO advantage in this system for consumers !
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The Computer Rodent
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|I can see good and bad things with this. On the plus side, for cable company, they can probably reduce storage, by having only one copy of this on thier end, and just streaming it on demand (like someone said about Comcast's VOD) On the negative, for the consumer, I see an easier way for the networks to leverage thier want of broadcast flags. Good for the consumer, update the software on your cable box, and you should be able to access all your "saved" programs on any cable box in your home.
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|It's just a way that they can keep you from recording content at home and burn it to CD/DVD.
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|Bad bad idea. Comcast On Demand which is basically the same thing crashes all the time. Sometimes the video even gets choppy. I'd rather record it and have it so that if cable ever went out you could still watch what you recorded.
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|actually, you might have a good point there ....
so what happens when i cancel my service or move out of the company's coverage area ....
are they going to send me what i recorded
or will i get screwed by paying for something im not keeping ....
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|umm.. in the words of Joe Pesci in Lethal Weapon..
"They always F$%K you in the drive-thru, they f%%K you in the drive-thru!"
Do the words CD/DVD recorder mean anything to you?
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|I used to have comcast before I moved (cox is the monopoly here) On Demand was good, I think the cable went out only once or twice for extended periods of time in the 1 1/2 I lived there. As for the DVR service, when they shut off my service by mistake, I lost everything on the DVR when they turned it back on less than 24 hrs later.
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|this is precisely my question, you F$%K - as said by "Joe Pesci" ....
where in the article does it say they will mail you a CD/DVD with all of your content ??
they cant because of the copyright ... so that means you dont get squat !!
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|Paying a monthly fee to the cable company does not entitle you to ownership of the content that they are providing you. The DVR box is so that you can watch the content at your convenience, not so that you can burn it to DVD... Everybody wants a ****in free lunch and wants to call the cable companies a Monopoly because they are trying to stay in business. If you don't LIKE cable, then cancel your service, watch network TV, get satellite, Rent DVD's from Blockbuster or whatever your local rental place is, OR READ A DAMN BOOK... Stop ****in whining about the cable companies, there is plenty of competition out there, vote with your dollars. You are the type of people that really piss me off, sit and whine about how the Cable Companies and Ma Bell are monopolistic, but you sure as hell sign up for all the services they offer cause you want the best! STFU
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|and FYI, you are leasing the DVR box, you don't get to take it with you when you move, you don't get to keep it if you cancel your service... How is this different?
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|ERRRRRRR
some DVR boxes have DVD-R capabilities ...
i've got your difference right here
*** grabs crotch ***
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|I understand your arguments about people wanting a free lunch. It will be a long debate between the older people that want to OWN things and the newer age people who grep up on the internet and just kinda rent their media content.
I'm a newer age person and thought that renting and DRM controls were fine. Until I bought songs on Napster (the pay per song version). I re-installed my OS only to find out that Napster "no longer offers that track" and wouldn't let me download the appropriate DRM into Windows Media to play the mp3 file stored on my computer. I had bought the song for a dollar yet I could not play it. Honest people just want to know that when they buy something they will actually own it. I know I own the DVDs that are sitting under my TV. With DRM I doubt that many of my songs are still mine after 3 or 4 reinstalls of my windows operating system.
What I thought I would point out also is that you are mad because people call cable companies monopolies. From an economic definition they are. No one else can use the cable that is piped to your house. They are completly protected from competition by most local municipalities. They often receive tax credits for the cables they lay to communities meaning that the city helped finance them. They are monopolies. They do make crazy amounts of money from these monopolies. But I believe as you do, vote with your dollars. That being said, I still subscribe to Charter because I don't want to pay 80 dollars a month for DirecTV, lock myself into year agreements, and get bad reception when it rains hard.
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|this was actually reported yesterday
which makes it OLD NEWS :)
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|This is just like video on demand, but for all channels. I just hope they don't force you to watch all comercials. I think at the end all media companies will favor this idea because they will have a lot more control over the content, but at the end the consumer will always be the one that gets screwed.
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|Cool idea. I wonder how much "storage" the end user will be able to have and how much it'll all cost.
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|I think the expectation is that many end users will record the same thing and vastly reduce the need for individual storage.
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|To remain legal (and for no other reason) I suppose they'll give you NO MORE than the high-end TiVo models -- 80 hours. Monthly fee will probably be around $10-$15 for 40 or 80 hours. Just guessing.
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|Dont hae a hypertensive crisis! TIVO is there for the users to do what they will with it. I have had one since 99 and have several now. I got rid of cable because they kept going up on prices. I imagine TIVO and recording to HDD or any other media is here to stay. Money drives the cable company decision to try this, so they can get back the market share they lost. May the best man win with the best deal and most options. For me this is DVR and satellite and I could not be happier. When something comes along that is better, I will probably switch. I don't need to record to dvd because I just keep a copy on my tivo HDD. The cable idea sounds unworkable at this time and would ultimately serve to limit us. Vote in the free market with your pocketbook!
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