China should just get bent.

China is a horrible country.

China makes non-quality crap.

Everyone thought this was a good idea until they realized they couldn't tell if the names being registered were real or not:

Sum Dum Nguy
Kami Pin Go
Mi So Rehd
Yu No Ghud
Ahn Den
Mao Bik Dop

And Bush avoids this by just spying on you. Notice there wasn't a peep from either him or the State Department regarding this. It's all about the dollars, not principles — Never had them, never will.

"Freedom" in Iraq, but not in the biggest nation on Earth. Bush sucks.

This has nothing to do with the article. STFU.

Oh and... have a nice day. =)

the Gentoo and Debian said NO FIREFOX.....do you kown? but i won't kown how they done now ..i mean the GNU...

huh?

I say overthrow the Chinese government and the world would be better for all man kind.

Amen to that, brother!

China (as a system of government) is going to have to learn censorship only hinders the economic growth of the nation. Instead of trying to limit what it's citizens can read and write, it (as a government) should be focused on providing more education.

In other words, I understand why the Chinese government monitors communications and blocks web sites, and I understand why they would want bloggers to register the blogs with their real names. It's because they fear democracy. They fear they will lose complete control and the citizens of China will begin a revolt.

But the opposite is actually more realistic. The more they try to keep it's citizens from experiencing freedom of speech, the closer they are to a revolt.

It's like the illegal drug industry.
The more the U.S. government tries to control the flow of illegal drugs, the more illegal drugs flow into the nation.

Why?
Because every human shares a common facet.
We all want the freedom to be able to choose how we live our lives. This is the same reason why democracy is hated by a lot of Eastern nations, and the same reason why there is terrorism in the world.

There are a few people who want to be in complete control of every aspect of life, including yours. And they will do whatever they have to to try to keep (or gain) that control. But in the end, they are only hurting themselves. We humans will not tolerate dictatorship and monarchy governments when human rights are violated.

China will soon come to terms with this, or they will lose the respect and power they have tried so hard to gain.

It doesn't matter that they are the most populated nation in the world. China as a communist government is not truly communist anyways. I agree with Grazer here, communism has nothing to do with hindering freedom of speech.

Communism is an ideology that seeks to establish a future classless, stateless social organization, based upon common ownership of the means of production. It can be classified as a branch of the broader socialist movement. (Taken from wikipedia).

Thus, by this definition, communism should encourage freedom of speech.

...and communism is not necessarily undemocratic. It my understanding that China's primary reason for censorship is to maintain peace among its people. Hence the ban on religion and religious speech. Can you think of any other type of idea that has caused near the amount of conflict?
But while the ideal of absolute equality does have a certain appeal, it doesn't work. People are naturally greedy and lazy (and all of the seven really). Thus, everyone wants more than their fair share and no one wants to do more than the minimum required (unless they want to feel proud of doing things better than their peers).

Ironically the fear campaign that you talk of is exactly what is goes on in America.

Those freedoms that americans enjoy are being taken away one by one.

Now when you go to the airpoirt your not allowed to bring any liquids through the security checkpoints. On the otherside of the terminal they sell you liquids and those aren't allowed on the plane.

Do you really believe that your safe when they wont even allow the their own liquids that they sell to you on the plane?

I think the difference between china and America is that china tells you what they are doing. Where in America big brother is wire tapping you without your knowledge.

How would they make sure you typed in your name and not someone who pissed you off at work that day?

that is, you don't know China.
People WOULD type their real name.
just because IF they government finds out that they're lying.. they're in big trouble. And I don't mean puny fines.

Well, Chinese do not deserve full freedom like we Westerners do because they will definitely abuse it.

It's actually the right move.

Just as we westerners have abused it..
1. love the wmd that we found.
2. love how iraq is more stable then when sadam was in power.
3. love how we put our power to use.

If free speech was legal, fine. But it's not. This is more Communist crap. It's a shame.

Well, really it is more political crap. There is nothing inherent to Communism that prevents free speech, it just so happens many implementations of it also lack such protections.

How about totalitarian? Whatever. It's a very left, highly controlling government. I don't want to upset your feelings about your local co-op organic grocery market.

I have no "local co-op". "Totalitarian" is a loaded, meaningless term which can be applied to almost anything. Communism is not diametrically opposed to democracy in the least, capitalism yes. While communism is as far "left" as is really possible, pure capitalism is as far "right" as possible and oddly borders on anarchy. Extreme capitalism can lead to things much worse than communism, things you only read about in the CyberPunk genre.

I think you assume I support communism because I can defend it against bogus claims, but if you look at a later post of mine you will see what I truly think of it.

whatever. I don't care about your economic philosophies. China, a "communist" country in many senses, also is anti-free speech. Just like every other far left regime. I know the PoliSci, but the reality is they're still "commies" in the sense that they will not protect dissident speech. Lenin, Stalin, Castro, et al. As long as China has a politburo, they're wrong.

Hopefully that's not loaded.

OPPPPS....but i am sure....that is just a talk....couldn't pass....because i am a chinese!i kown what happened exactly!

I think you are confusing "communist" with "oppressive". It is not my economic "philosophy" that communism and democracy are not opposites, it is plain fact. Just as it is fact that it is capitalism that is communism's opposite.

That's the thing, I think. Communism sounds *great* in theory, but it never seems to work in practice. It's way too easy for communism to be exploited by the powerful for their own gain and everyone else's loss, which is (I think) incredibly ironic.

That is what I have been saying. Communism itself is a great idea, one that no human being can live up to, as it requires people to be little more than machines. Machines don't need motivation and incentives, people do; and communism really cannot provide that...but that does not make communism "evil" or "totalitarian" or "icky", just unrealistic.