Comcast, TWC test curbs on heavy Internet use
By Jacqueline Emigh | Published June 4, 2008, 5:57 PM
Time Warner Cable and Comcast are launching tests this week of new management controls for bandwidth consumption -- alternatives to the approach of throttling packets outright, though they may not prove to be any more popular.
Both major cable ISPs are limiting their tests for now to just a few places in the US. Yesterday, it was learned that TWC plans to try out a new metered billing scheme that will charge users on the basis of individual bandwidth consumption.
Beginning Thursday, TWC subscribers in Beaumont, Texas, will be given monthly "allowances" for the amount of data they upload and download. Those who exceed the limit will be required to pay $1 per gigabyte.
Although the metered approach could curb usage among some subscribers, the cable firm might also stand to gain some extra revenues among those willing to pay the price.
Elsewhere, Comcast has announced plans to test a method of controlling traffic problems that slows file transfer speeds for individual heavy users during peak times of Internet use. Comcast's tests are slated to start on Friday in Chambersbug, Pennsylvania and Warrenton, Virginia.
Meanwhile, Comcast is still officially under investigation by the Federal Communications Commission on charges that it has been blocking P2P file transfers. During FCC hearings, Comcast has denied blocking any Web site, application, or protocol.
But David L. Cohen, Comcast's executive VP, has admitted to a "limited form of network management" in which requests for BitTorrent files are "delayed" but not "blocked." BetaNews tests have confirmed the existence of those delays, quite prominently.
In mid-May, study results released by a German research group pinpointed Comcast and Cox as the leading perpetrators of BitTorrent blocking in the US.
This time, at least, Comcast's subscribers in Chambersburg and Warrenton are being forewarned.
Personally I would go without in protest IF I knew that others would. However I know full well that would not be the case as the way things are now most seem to feel they can NOT live without something Capped or not. However If they are going to Cap a service they best SAY SO. Not advertise UNLIMITED service when its nothing of the kind... That is the Rub IMHO. Its false advertising and breach of contract. If THEY say that their service is limited ok thats fine. but it gives the consumer the knowledge UPFRONT. and not as a backdoor to extra service fees, on something that was suppose to be "UNLIMITED HIGH SPEED INTERNET"
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|I think it is funny. I just read a posting on Yahoo about Comcast. Here is a quote:
"PHILADELPHIA - Comcast Corp. said Thursday that by early 2010 it plans to offer consumers in most of its markets Internet service so fast they will be able to download a high-definition movie in minutes. "
It makes me think that if this is true, comcast may be charging a lot of extra fee's if you go over a limit if they have there way or may slow down the download speed so it will not be minutes anymore.
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|*Customer walks into Comcast's office*
Average Customer: "Good day sir. I regret to inform you that I'm decreasing the amount I'm paying you guys by 20%. I know this isn't what we agreed to, but with everything becoming so expensive you're lucky you're getting anything from me."
Comcast rep: "What?"
Average Customer: "Yep that's right a 20% decrease effective immediately. Comcast should consider itself notified."
Comcast Rep: "You can't do that, that's not what we agreed to!"
Average Customer: "This isn't open for debate. Good day."
*Customer walks out*
Everyone have a nice day.
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|I see Comcast didn't learn from the trillion dollar fine.
Round 2, jerks - and you'll lose this one too.
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|whatever you do...
DONT SUPPORT THESE GREEDY CORPORATE bas****S!
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|Great, instead of fixing their network, TW is blaming customers for their own problem.
If they implement this in NYC, I will drop it in a heartbeat. 5gigs limit? 40 gigs limit? What a freaking joke.
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|In my dreams, there will be a technology that doesn't depend on these guys laying cable, people owning a spectrum, or large conglomerates controlling a network. It would be great if there was a mesh-type network where every node is a piece of the network, instead of the end of a hub.
Then we can ditch these companies that decide what is best for us.
Until then we have capitalism in play. You bet your a** I will leave Comcast and get fiber the minute it is available in my hood.
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|If Qwest would go away then more areas in Portland, Oregon would get FiOS TV and internet. I read an article in the Wednesday (June 4, 2008) Oregonian newspaper that said Verizon will not be offering FiOS TV in Portland. They will only be offering it in surrounding areas such as Gresham, Beaverton, Tigard, etc. The article didn't mention if the decision would affect FiOS internet deployment.
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|It's all about Slingbox!!! Just look at big media's goals.. Kill sling NOW!
Keep writing complaints to the FCC about these guy's.. In the next year the FCC will start becoming more active in customer rights.. When Bush leaves office the dogs will be released..
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|I called this a few weeks back in a previous posting, I don't get it though, TWC came out to fix a single HD channel I was having issues with because and this is a direct quote from the rep. "I am paying for crystal clear HD service". Who can argue with that logic right....So how is it if I'm paying for "unlimited" internet access which I take as no limit on data I push, I'm going to be charged extra if I go over a limit? Crap I tell you Crap! Good thing I have a choice of ISP's in my area, Lets see TWC and umm oh yea TWC :( They got me by the manhood it would seem.
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|I will NEVER use a CABLE operator as my ISP! Those liars have bragged about offering their customers UNLINITED high speed access for several years. Now, they have NO intention of living up to those promises. It wasn't many years ago, that ths deceptive "bait and switch" game was ILLEGAL. They would also have gotten into trouble for flagrant incidents of false advertising.
There was a boring debate about this on the FOX News Channel. Not even the geek from PC Magazine dared to mention the false promises made by the cable industry. In that case opponents of their new con game looked like a bunch of morons.
I don't even like the COMCAST TV service either. My room mate had to put up an old fashioned TV antenna because their High Definition signals are the sh!+z.
Those IDIOTS play with their EBS tests several nights of the week: which is far more than required by FCC regulations and many more times than a broacaster ever does. COMCAST will interrupt programming to bore us to death about a flood on a river more than 200 hundred miles away. They didn't bother, when a huge forest fire took out thousands of acres in the local mountains and destroyed dozens of homes. The only way to get accurate EBS information is on the local AM station, those NOAA government weather stations and the police scanner. COMCAST; no way!!!
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|yeah HD over the air is much better quality than either comcast or sat. Sadly, your content is less impressive. Not that that is saying much, TV is a wasteland.
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|Maybe they should have thought about this before they gleefully started offering 12mb service to anyone and everyone. A little late now, boys.
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|If anyone believes that Comcast is not blocking specific ports they are being wholly deceived. Comcast outright blocks port 25 (SMTP) for me and I have read many other forums where other users comlain of exactly the same issue.
I have had to subscribe to a third-party port redirection service in order to keep my mail server running. I have two mailboxes on this server and is only used for personal messages. This block just started in mid May although I have been using the same mail server over Comcast for six years prior to this.
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|Try port 587. According to my domain name provider (1&1) this is an alternative SMTP port. That's what I use for sending e-mail with SMTP and it works perfectly.
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|"Although the metered approach could curb usage among some subscribers, the cable firm might also stand to gain some extra revenues among those willing to pay the price."
They may be able to increase revenue wiuth a few, but I suspect more will avail themselves to other avenues of Internet access at already lower prices than what Warner (and most cable providers) charge.
If alternative service is available, I foresee a jumping of ship away from Warner and similar providers - just as Time Warner is divesting themselves of Time Warner Cable.
They might want to spend more energy and money in increasing their QOS rather than attempting to find new and novel ways of denigrating it. Now there is a concept!
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|haha!...we hear this nonsense...
but all the holdover HD-DVD fanboys around here want you to believe that digital distribution is the next big thing!?....HAHA!...$1 per GB in overages!?...thats $25 for a Blu-ray of HD-DVD movie....and in same cases $50!!...yeah...WAY BETTER THAN PHYSICAL MEDIA!!!
ISP's are complaining that their bandwidth is being sucked dry now...and thats before everyone starts downloading their HD content over the web....haha yeah right, to all all those people who keep saying the infrastructure is in place to make this happen now...i say FORGET IT!
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|As if this is an issue aimed at HD-DVD and the digital distribution of media!
But who can argue with your impeccable logic!
Who in their right mind would dare spend $25 for a BluRay movie?! I agree! That's utterly outrageous!
Ooops!, but ~$25 - that's the standard price for a BluRay movie, isn't it? An outrageous price for a download OR a hardcopy!
Download or hard copy, few are spending that kind of money per title for BluRay on top of an entry price of an exorbitant ~$300-600 for a player alone!
Especially when he format offers no compelling reason to do so when you can get 'good enough' results from upscaled DVDs available for ~$5-15!
So you keep ranting - and wondering why BluRay is gaining little traction despite winning the format war, as their players increase in price and the media shows no sign of decreasing in price.
The larger market says "Forget It"!
Deal with it fanboy.
(Edit typo spelling error)
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|Way to go troll...
As fox says below 'As if this is an issue aimed at HD-DVD and the digital distribution of media!'
And you..
'and thats before everyone starts downloading their HD content over the web'
which world you living in? Clearly not this one.
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|I can't believe it... You idiot!
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