*laughing*

Yeah, this will be good. I hope you all realize what this will mean. If anything, this will get ComCast and others their day in court to convince the FCC of the need for tiered internet services.

By stomping your feet and crying to Big Nanny Gov., you've effectively asked for the very thing you've been whining about them doing anyway.

They will stand before the FCC, show them the network stats (amount of users, amount of bandwidth, ratio used for P2P), and will get the go-ahead to throttle, tier, block and structure pricing so that you'll end up paying at least (and this is ridiculously low) twice what you are paying now for "unlimited" service (if "unlimited" service doesn't disappear altogether).

Enjoy it folks. It's all due to your incessant whining and acting like spoiled little children. Of course, that's exactly how Big Nanny Gov wants you to act. It's much easier to take control of things when you *beg* them to do it.

Not that I, or anyone would actually expect you to take any responsibility whatsoever for any of this. That would require far more personal integrity and intellectual clarity than most users who've posted in this topic so far could ever hope to achieve.

It was so simple before the AOL herd came along...

Want to be able to do whatever you want on your network? Buy a network. Can't? Too damned bad. You could have been happy with that (We were, for quite some time). At the very least, you could have dealt with it maturely. But instead of dealing with it, you whined, you threw tantrums, and you begged for it all to be taken even further out of your hands. Good going!

So again, enjoy!

...not that you will. We all know, even if we choose to ignore it, that yiou can never be happy. You need this, want that, can't live without whatever else... constantly in a state of turmoil, distrust, and impotent angst.

Happiness...

*laughing*

...keep whining. Maybe you'll finally get that diamond tiara you've always wanted, princess.

(can't take credit for the whole thing...much of it was pasted from a post on the usenet in the early 90's. Heavily edited for the current situation.)

As you can read from my earlier posts on this topic, I feel the same exact way... What people don't seem to "get", is that the average Comcast user is probably using far far below 20GB transfer/mo average. That is why you are NOT going to hear 95% of Comcast customers EVER complaining. The service is actually fantastic especially with occasional price-slicing promos! If I was a non-techy user who gets a single movie here and there, a few music albums, emails and a little pr0n, I would probably WANT the government to step in and GIVE COMCAST THE GREEN LIGHT TO KICK THE SH_T OUT OF THE NETWORK ABUSERS. Hell, if I can pay $10 less a month if that happens, why the hell not make it happen...

I've known for all these years that I've been a network abuser that my time is coming. Now, thankfully, I can afford my own partial-T1 if I really really really need the extra GB in transfer and when Comcast/Earthlink start to really clamp down without showing any intention of letting go.

P2P is here to stay, it's just that folks out there are gonna be a bit more selective on what they grab.

I don't see how any one person can hurt a network's performance like they claim. You know they can support numerous people at their maximum download speed whatever that may be 8bmps or whatever. So unless they are talking about one service like bittorrent. That is the only thing that makes sense. 1000 people passing bitorrent files around on a node for 12k could very well hurt everyone else.

This is a lot of blah blah. There's no such thing (IN ANY BIZ) as allowing a small percentage of customers kill profits TO THE ENTIRE BIZ because they use 95% of the overall resources (bandwidth). The FCC will allow Comcast to detect/log & raise the prices for heavy bandwidth users, or kick them totally off the service. It will probably also force Comcast to state clearly in the TOS what's the maximum allowable bandwith usage per customer. That's what gonna end up happening. You need more bandwidth for more warez my sweet boy? Cough up the change for a real T1 or start hopping around from ISP to ISP...

Yeah an isp ever has a cap on the amount of bandwidth you can use each month ill drop them in a heart beat. I mean game demo's alone now days are no longer megabytes but GIGAbytes in size. A month like November with a rediculous number of new waiting for years games coming out the internet is going to be a very busy place.

Online multiplayer gaming, driver updates/patches. Windows updates, voip phone calls. I mean you ever get a cap on the amount of data you can pass each month, it's going to get rediculous.

You're not gonna dump anyone in any heartbeat...You're gonna TAME yourself and not go wild with your downloads/uploads (with bittorrent the term download is kinda outdated). Whatcha think is gonna happen when one ISP is PROVEN LEGALLY to be able to CAP you? You really think all the network abusers are gonna go to the competition and the competition is just gonna say: "welcome!! come to us all the users for which we LOSE MONEY ON! Come and r_pe our network's a__ freely!".

WAKE UP PEOPLE - YOU ARE LIVING IN A DREAM. Uncapped/unthrottled/unPOLICED ISPs are HISTORY.

Do it for the Porn... Think of the lost porn packets out there languishing to spill forth there seedy goodness.

LOL

They can always buy GigaNews accounts (bin newgroups)... ;)

That still means downloading...which means using bandwidth...

That's very true. Right now it's "a loophole", but eventually the policing of ISPs will be both throttling AND usage capping (if they deem necessary). I don't know the exact statistics of usage vs profitability.

I totally understand the outrage they would do packet shaping on their networks i.e. blocking or delaying bitorrent packets. I can also understand though the insane bandwidth hogs bitorrent file sharing is. In a day where we have streaming videos rising at an insane rate, voip phone calls as well as all the gigantic game demo's available over the internet perhaps this is the only thing they could find to be lazy and cheap and cut traffic instead of upgrade/updates their networks.

A company as large as comcast should be ashamed and yes they should happily receive anything they have coming.

Nothing is coming. The FCC will stick it to the very heavy bandwidth users, rather than let ALL ISPs get abused by them with a "legal permit" to do so. Comcast will simply demonstrate that they DO NOT slow down bittorrent usage for "slightly above average customers" - they only "cut the ba||s" off the heaviest network ABUSERS. (And yes, I was one of them until a few years ago).

And why no longer?
--->And yes, I was one of them until a few years ago

Because I noticed I was wasting considerable amount of *time* and *space* hoarding software/movies/music that I *NEVER* actually used/watched/listen-to.

So even FREE PIRATED STUFF have a cost.

Now I only pirate select highest quality stuff that I use/plan to use immediately. ;)

I hope Comcast gets the fukin beatdown for their shady business practices.

They charge ridiculous amounts of money for their so called hi speed internet service and half the time it feels like you are on dial up

i dont know what you are talking about dark, i get almost a constant connection rate of 12mbps. maybe you need new lines. but the price is bulls***. and hearing this really pisses me off. how dare those a******s restrict the internet.

i get about 17 mbps on certain things. but bt is nerfed once download is complete. i hate them though, thank god for dtv. fios is a nice option but vz is evil too and they try to force you to use their horrible router/gateway actiontek for their internet these days.

good, fcc shouldn't need all these complaints to be investigating in the first place.

i didn't realize that was an issuse for the fcc if then they may wanto check clearwire out insane p2p blocking when i had it i was getting 5kbs download which is horrible i should have been able to have gotten 100kbs easy out of the 1.5mbps But Clearwire is the shadiest of all the internet companies i suggest to never buy the service the contracts are meant to rape people for everything they have, i hope this company goes out of business, but yet i still sell it everyday at work! Cable it just way to unreliable though, you could have a great connection becuase no one else has it in the area or be always bogged down if everyone on your block has it. DSL is way cheap 6mbps through att it's 35 bucks a month no contract and it's always reliable! Enough said!!!!!!!!!!

I've seen firsthand Comcast hi-speed in multiple locations in South Florida and it's always been SUPER FAST AND SUPER RELIABLE! Always been the better deal than DSL...

Right now I'm on Comcast.....I believe?....hehehehe (using my neighbor's open wifi). It's really fast to send 5MB files with the PowerBoost feature. Naturally, bigger files get throttled down.

If you seriously think Cable is better then dsl then then stick with it, i'm saying DSL is more reliable and is less then half the price of cable!

And less than half the speed for residential DSL. :)

And the reliability is only as good as your copper.

hey ya ive been waiting for this day them comcast shyts tried to call me and tell me bullshyt about how they gona cut it offf for downloading too much and i only downlaoded jsut 40 gigs that same month thats small lolcomcast says unlimted downloads unlited evertyhting so y not..keep it thatw ay lol ignorant fuks im glad there gonna finaly learn..not to fuk with ppl..i hope and threaten them maybe thats y there gona get sued 1 day hahahah there so dumb they think it slows down others speed my mom is on wireless feeding off my connection and it never slows her down shes got wut it says full speed so does my neioghbor and i download alot so ya speed hoggs not true !

In South Florida, cable and DSL are about the same price, with cable being much faster and slightly more reliable. I personally only get DSL for businesses where there's no cable infrastructure present.