I THINK THIS NEW HD-DVD CONCEPT IS THE BEST THING TO EVER HIT THE MOTION PICTURE INDUSTRY!!

'NUFF SAID!!

~BARRY~

Is it me or has anyone else into HD movies noticed that the new releases are dual format? It ticks me off because they cost almost twice as much and if I wanted the standard version,Id get it on regular dvd. I havent noticed Blu-ray doing that, and I dont like paying close to $40.00 for one movie.I hope they dont continue to do this. It seems to me its just another way to make more money. How about a HD format and a combo format for someone that wants it that way!

Regardless of all the PR spin, I'll wait until cheap dual-format players are available. I'm not getting sucked into buying crap that's painful to use in 3-5 years.

Bad mistake on the Article, however this is promising news for the HD Format
Josh Chandler
www.techilious.wordpress.com

Pc tool you are an idiot. 1.5 million copies were sold. 110 is the different dvd titles they have. Learn to read. Go HD-DVD!

ROFLMAO.

Read the article, you enormous buffoon.

The headline says 1.5 Million Movie Titles.

The article says 110 titles, and 1.5 Million discs.

The headline is a blatant lie.

You, on the other hand, are an ignorant troll.

Wow... big mistake.

I think everyone here understood exactly what was meant.

And the headline is an error, not a blatent lie.

Jesus, BN....

The headline says they shipped 1.5mil titles, the second sentence says 110.

Will you *please* stop lying to get reads?

Modded down in 3...2...

hey pc tool you are an idiot. they sold 1.5 million actual dvd's/ the 110 is the number of different dvd names they have out you idiot lol. Learn to read.

Headline:

HD DVD Ships 1.5 Million Movie Titles

First Sentence:

they had shipped more than 1.5 million discs

Second Sentence:

touted the number of titles available, now 110,

I'd suggest some reading comprehension classes before calling anyone else an idiot, there, my friend.

OMFG THEY PUT "TITLES" IN THE TITLE INSTEAD OF "DISCS"! DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE ARTICLE ITSELF STATES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DISCS AND TITLES, THIS IS CLEARLY A CONSPIRACY AGAINST BLU-RAY! WHY MUST YOU LIE TO US, BETANEWS!?! WHY?!?!?!?!?!

Note: This is what PC_tool sounds like to me. That's right, a tool. At least he lives up to his name.

It didn't say 1.5 Million Unique Movie Titles, now did it? :P

I caught that too.

Note: No one cares.

Note: He was right.

Nope, but it's still a lie (or, I believe just a mistake).

1.5 million movie titles were not shipped. 110 were.

1.5 million discs were shipped.

I suppose sounding like a tool isn't too bad. I mean, I could sound like a moron...I'm sure you'd enjoy the company.

I love the link, it's Mark all right.

Nothing positive as usual, just spewing bile in all directions. I can't believe he actually takes it personal, no life I guess.

You can actually feel the anger and frustration in his posts. Poor sap is going to get an ulcer over Blu_ray and PS3.

Great news for HD-DVD!

The numbers at www.thedvdwars.com show the same thing.

I know this has nothing to do with the article, but below link is very funny.

For all the fanboy out there, especially
our beloved mr. mark gillespie, this link is for you.

http://www.gizmodo.com/g...spam-edition-214333.php

enjoy.

Wow.. 1.5 Million movies.. I guess it costs about $.50 per DVD to stamp. (I bet that price is high) .. I guess if your rich buy both blue ray and HD DVD.. no big deal.. but really why would anyone need to buy one?

Great.. I get 5 HD Channels on my dish network.. WOW.. a whole 5 HD channels!! for 200$ more a year!!

That's nothing new, CDs have never cost much to stamp. You aren't paying for the plastic, but for the content. New formats always cost more in the beginning too but really they aren't that high as it is. The costs will come down eventually. As for who would buy one, that's up to the individual. Just because you may not want to buy movies in HD doesn't mean no one else does. :)

While I would tend to agree (in that I don't particularly like they way either format is shaping up) I can see why people would buy into the upgrade. Watching DVD on a PC really highlights it's shortcomings as a movie format, as the quality is still lacking.

That said, many people will be plugging these HD devices into SD TVs - and there really is very little to be gained from doing so. If you've got a fancy 1080i/p TV (that actually has that REAL resolution, not just the processing capability) then BluRay or HD-DVD will really be impressive. Same if you're using a PC with even just a 17" LCD or greater - a massive potential improvement over DVD. But for average joe with a standard CRT or first-gen plasma/LCD (or projector) there's nothing to be gained.

Unfortunately there's no easy way to tell consumers that. ;)

"no big deal.. but really why would anyone need to buy one? "

So I suppose you are still watching TV in black and white?

Simple reason for it - best picture quality possible. Even if you choose one format and it loses, whatever you've invested in it will still work.

I do agree about cable/dish prices - it is ridiculous how few HD channels there are and that its an extra cost. There are probably 200+ channels I would like to see them get rid of.

Why? Great question.
Answer? You don't need it.

The improvement from DVD to HD-DVD is slim compared to that of VHS to DVD. The high price alone argues against it, unless you like wasting money on unsettled formats. Only a d-d fool would buy this or Blu-Ray for now.

Last I knew it was the consumer that chooses the format. If the we as a consumer continue to buy HD DVD then this will be the winning format.

Which satellite dish provider is it that took over Voom's 35 HD channel lineup? I though it was Dish Network, but I could be wrong.

Ships != Sales

Spin, nothing more..

No, because clearly there are distributors out there that like shipping around crates of discs just for fun. And there`s also suppliers who like just looking at the pretty discs and won`t sell them.

Prat.

Are you suggesting every item ever manaufactured is sold? be it CD, DVD, Blu-Ray, HD-DVD or even Bananas...

Methinks your the prat, if you believe this..

Shipping is one thing, selling is totally different.

Right... they manufactured and shipped 1.5 million movies for the hype.

No, but I'm also not naive enough to think that companies ship products that aren't selling. If you ran a business, would you keep ordering stock if you weren't clearing what you already had?

Shipping and selling are different, thank you Captain Obvious. www.dictionary.com can tell me that. So perhaps you could troll somewhere else, where people are foolish enough to believe your bulls*** and propaganda?

He is right. But it doesn't really matter since we don't know how many titles bluray has shipped.

When I go into Best Buy, there are about equal amounts of BluRay and HD-DVD product on the shelves. So if bluray has "shipped" less, then HD-DVD would appear to be "selling" more.

Shipped products that don't sell do eventually go back to the manufacturer. But the same thing happens for both formats, so again, it would be nice to know shipping numbers for both.

Here you are right on schedule, popping up in an HD-DVD thread bashing away. Talk about desperate.

Did I mention anything about HD-DVD? Nope, if I saw Blu-Ray, or any product shipping numbers, I would question if that actually meant SOLD. As it is, I see equal amounts of unsold HD-DVD and Blu-Ray titles, the market simply is not mature enough.

In your own little paranoid mind, perhaps it seems I only comment on PS3/HD-DVD/Blu-Ray threads on Betanews, but that is not the case.

"Did I mention anything about HD-DVD?"

Oh my god, your IQ is dropping exponentially. Look up there at the title of this thread. This is what you replied to. The subject of your reply is HD-DVD. You called this announcment "spin and nothing more".

"Nope, if I saw Blu-Ray, or any product shipping numbers, I would question if that actually meant SOLD."

Don't try to lie, if the title had been 1.5 million Blu-Ray titles sold you'd be giggling like a schoolgirl while you typed out how victorious Sony was.

"In your own little paranoid mind, perhaps it seems I only comment on PS3/HD-DVD/Blu-Ray threads on Betanews, but that is not the case"

No, I said you pop up in every related thread on Betanews, and that is a FACT. A normal person would just buy the product they wanted but you get on here and rant and rave like a lunatic about it. Desperation, nothing more.

True enough. It would be interesting to see the BluRay details.

Shipped != spin. :P

Don't try to lie, if the title had been 1.5 million Blu-Ray titles sold you'd be giggling like a schoolgirl while you typed out how victorious Sony was.
Well, if it was "sold" then he would have just cause; but he'd probably be doing for just "shipped".

"Oh my god, you're IQ is dropping exponentially."

I think you mean YOUR...

Nice comeback. Really, I mean it. That was pure genius. I guess when you can't defend your own stupid posts you can either run away or desperately grab onto something as petty as a spelling error. I have corrected it for you, hope you feel better. Now let's get back to what you were saying earlier about how you weren't talking about HD-DVD even though you were replying to an HD-DVD article.

That was pretty bad.

IThinks you meant "you're"

Anyone talking about units shipped rather than units sold, is spin.. Period..

Your mistake was also not a spelling error, it was showing your lack of understanding of the English language..

well technically they arent going to be shipped unless they are sold to the stores now are they?

nice!

*laughs*

Right, and that's the point, right? That's what we're here to discuss?

Typical fanboy. Can't win on the real topic, so ya change the subject.

Classic.

BZZT!

Sorry, Mark...you fail it.

Ships=sold to stores.

That means HD-DVD is making money....even if it hasn't hit the hands of the consumer yet.

So ships=sold.

I think you meant ships!=market-share, in which case it the same old "Downloads vs. actual users" argument we have over browsers.

...and we all know how pointless *that* particular argument is.

Anyone talking about units shipped rather than units sold, is spin.. Period..

The fact that it's an HD-DVD thread had nothing to do with your post either, right? You're not fooling anyone, why don't you give it up.

"Your mistake was also not a spelling error, it was showing your lack of understanding of the English language.."

You made the exact same mistake a few posts down Shakespeare.

Methinks your the prat, if you believe this..

Can you spell hypocrite? I knew you could.

lol :)

"It's still unclear if the format is outselling Blu-ray, however, as neither side has provided concrete sales numbers."

You can only hope it stops the bickering.
It won't; but there's no harm in wishing.

While there are no concrete sales numbers, what are the shipping numbers for bluray?

Probably too embarrasing to release, otherwise Sony would be flaunting them like crazy.

Good point. If Blu-ray was shipping more than HD-DVD, you'd see all the headlines "Blu-ray wins next generation format war!" and Mark Gillespie would be creaming in his pants.

true.

Sony won't go there. It's embarrassing for them and the other BD backers. I should know, I officially own a BD player since I opened my PS3. I will have more trouble finding a 360 / HD-DVD combo than I thought.

I do have a couple nice things to say, the HDD drive is super easy to swap out. I have a 100GB 2.5 SATA to put inside, I will try it out tomorrow.