Internet Explorer 7 Final Released

By Nate Mook | Published October 18, 2006, 11:00 PM

Microsoft late Wednesday released the much-anticipated final version of Internet Explorer 7, the first major update to the market-leading Web browser in five years. The company has high hopes for the release, which arrives amid growing competition from Firefox.

Microsoft plans to deliver IE7 to all Windows users via Automatic Updates beginning in November. IE product manager Gary Schare told BetaNews last week that the rollout would be staggered and start in about 3 weeks.

Windows users will see a dialog box asking them to choose whether or not to upgrade. Users can also uninstall IE7 and revert back to IE6 if they so desire. Schare said that IE7 is "friendly," noting that it won't take over as the default browser, and it will migrate current search settings, so Windows Live Search will not necessarily be the default search provider.

Enterprise customers will have until November 1 to block IE7 if they don't want their employees to see the available update. Because the new release introduces major changes to the browser, Microsoft acknowledges that some businesses may encounter problems and, thus, will not force an upgrade.

First announced over 20 months ago by Bill Gates, IE7 was built with security in mind. IE6 has largely proven to be Microsoft's Achilles' heel when it comes to security, as it was developed before the onslaught of online attacks that now delude consumers as they surf the Web.

In turn, IE7 includes a number of new features such as a built-in Phishing Filter and ActiveX controls that require manual activation to keep users protected. Under the hood, Microsoft has rewritten the networking architecture of the browser to stop URL spoofing attacks.

IE7 will also play a key role in bringing Windows into the so-called "Web 2.0" era, in which rich applications can reside on a server but feel as snappy as those on the desktop. The release natively supports asynchronous JavaScript and XML, better known as AJAX, along with including a slew of CSS bug fixes and improvements.

Microsoft has additionally built a new RSS feed platform directly into IE7. Not only will users be able to stay up to date by subscribing to Web sites, but application developers can also hook into the platform and easily make use of RSS APIs.

On the outside, IE7 has joined the 21st century with tabbed browsing and a customizable search box. Rivals Firefox and Opera have long offered such functionality, as have IE-based browsers including the popular Maxthon. The toolbar has also been compressed to give more space to Web sites.

Despite all the changes, Microsoft has made a concerted effort to ensure IE7 is compatible with the latest Web standards while leaving in "quirks mode" for older sites. This means users should come across few problems when browsing even those sites that were designed for legacy versions of IE. The company has worked closely with banks and e-commerce sites to make sure IE7 is fully supported.

In a blog posting, IE general manager Dean Hachamovitch thanked the beta testers that took part in the development of IE7. Five betas and a release candidate were made available to millions of users worldwide.

"With each release, your feedback helped us make IE7 better. Your contributions, ideas, and direct comments were crucial in helping us prioritize and focus our work," he said. "I can’t imagine delivering this product without the tremendous cooperation we enjoyed from so many of you as well as developers and partners."

For those who don't want to wait for the automatic update to arrive, IE7 is available for download now in English for Windows XP Service Pack 2, Windows Server 2003 and x64 Editions of Windows.

In 2-3 weeks, Arabic, Finnish, French, German, Japanese, and Spanish language versions of IE7 will arrive. The remaining 17 languages will become available between November and January, Microsoft said.

To show how committed it is to the new release, Microsoft is offering free phone support to IE7 users for the next year. Users can call (866) 234-6020 regarding download or installations issues and receive assistance at no charge seven days a week.

Nonetheless, Microsoft's Hachamovitch says the IE team is not done yet. "Even as we put the finishing touches on Windows Vista and release all the remaining language versions of IE7, we have already started work on the next versions of Internet Explorer."

BetaNews would like to hear your thoughts on the new release, and ideas for features you would like to see in the next release of Internet Explorer so that we can pass them onto Microsoft. Post your comments below.

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I like the interface od new IE and the new cool features given. But the browsing speeds are low!!!

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I like the feature in FireFox that allows you to search a page by typing. I would like to see a feature like that in IE 7+.

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What do I think? Meh.

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One of the features I like best about Firefox is it's search capabilities. I can right-click on a word (or set of words) anywhere on a page and it searches whichever search engine I have selected in my search box. No such luck on IE. I do like the RSS features in IE 7 though, but I won't be switching back to IE. The search functions, configurability, and the extensions are just too valuable for me; however, for the average joe user, it's probably quite adequate.

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Good enough but I prefer to stay with Opera that is more light and quick, IMHO.

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I just talked with Hewlett Packard and IE7 is still NOT compatible with HP Director (the program hundreds of thousands of people use with their HP all in one printer/scanners). Supposedly HP is working on this. I use my scanner too much to gravitate to IE7 at this time. IE6 is just fine for now

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"Microsoft has made a concerted effort to ensure IE7 is compatible with the latest Web standards ..."

maybe they should have focused on the first webstandards, first

I can't believe they "finished" this browser (and IE6, 5 years ago) and still haven't finished support for HTML -- that's right, IE doesn't support the most basic web standard. It has one element left out: the Q element.

If it had had that fixed, I would have recommended it -- oh, well ... back to persuading everyone to use standards-compliant browsers again.

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The deprecated one you mean?

If lack of support for the Q element is your biggest problem with IE7, man, you've got it made.

Of course, I am upset that it no longer supports Gopher :P

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Did they ever fix the ftp folder view? It's point less as most clients don't want to buy another program to do FTP when IE6 does it great and in folder view. I won't use IE7 as it crashes to much and I don't think they fixed the FTP folder view. I like FF, but hate that it crashes on Yahoo some times.

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took over as default on my machine, had to set Firefox back as default, but other then that, worked as advertised. The ability to close the first tab, (to blank it out) would be great.

[use and installed - cause i work for an ISP and need to know about it.]

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Iwant IE7

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They sped it up quite a bit from RC1. I like it.

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Works as designed. Download and installation were without incident.

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2 days with IE7 - i am staying that way from now on :)
/adding to OS Ghost image :)

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pwned goto www.ie7.com

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that's funny
:-D

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rofl @ ppl hating

if it was firefox they're like OMG BEST BROWSER.. bet most people didnt even try this.

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thats cuz people love to have that elitist antimainstream mentality. i for one don't have any brand loyalty, makes it easier to switch to whatever the next best thing .
though ff 2.0 is almost complete, be fun playing with both to see which is nicer. also there is always opera

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Reminds me of MAC types who claim to be "thinking different" then happily get led around by Apple in every aspect of computing. How "alternative" can you be when you're the infant and your daddy is Apple Inc.

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There is already bugs in the IE7 outlook express parts. It need to be fixed.
and I suggest that Microsoft Release new Windows XP which included IE 7.01 and some security patch.
it will make microsoft name better.

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On 10/18/06, I downloaded IE7, as prompted by my Yahoo web site. Everything worked fine, except when I went to Yahoo mail. The tool bar to use spell check, font size, happy faces etc, format, was not available. I called the 1-866-234-6020 number and told the person what I told you, and they insisted there would be a $35 charge. According to a SBC technician, Yahoo and Nicrosoft have not come together on this issue. So, I guess, install at your own risk. And, I can NOT find how to unistall IE7 as they say.

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To uninstall IE7 go to Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs > Add/Remove Windows Components. Good luck.

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Wait until Yahoo fixes the site.

In the meanwhile, I recommend GMail. ;)

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Gmail is ok, but I like inbox.com better. 5gb space for both email and Storage (yes I said storage for mp3's, photo's or anything), no ad's, pop3, notepad and more. It's also free.

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"And, I can NOT find how to unistall IE7 as they say."
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Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs. Setting a restore point before installation is also a good idea.

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IE7 works fine here. The worst thing about it is the UI though. Since it tries to put Vista design into XP and personally I find it doesn't work.
Maybe if I use it a bit I might get used to it, but FF still has me won for the most part.
At least its an improvement from IE6 and finally has Tabs built-in.

What's amazing is the favicons seem to be working fine for me again. They haven't worked for quite awhile in IE but now they do. It may be a small feature but it helps in the overall presentation and being able to find bookmarks easier.

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Meh, its nice and all. Pages render a little better then IE6 for me. FF still has the one, free, perfectly executed extension which keeps me from using anything else extensivly...AdBlock. I haven't found anything else as effective or as easy to use in any other browser. Maxthon came close but Maxthon was flaky. Opera's adblocking wasnt as easy to use and IE has some really crappy addons that do a terrible job of it. So back to FF for me I guess.

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ok people, move along already ....
choose a different article to post on
everything that needed to be said has been done so. ....

/feedup

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It does not open pdf pages. When I click on a link I just get an empty page - Acrobat does not open. I called the support line number and spoke to a customer rep. He said I would have to pay to get support on this issue! I challenged him, but he was immoveable. So as far as I am concerned, the 'free' support is worthless. So much for Microsoft standing behind their software!

And I think the new toolbars take up more real estate and are less customizable.

Ah well - back to FF.

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http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4.pdf

Opens within the browser for me just fine.

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Works for me too, I don't think the problem is with IE. Have you tried reinstalling Adobe Reader?

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That would be my second reaction to seeing a problem like this as well. (My first would be trying a PDF file I knew for sure was valid and worked .)

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I love the new UI of IE7, but since Microsoft did such a poor job updating its CSS support, they took one step forward and two back in this regard. Both Opera and Firefox are the de facto standards for viewing websites properly now.

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Installed IE7. Thank god I was able to uninstall it. excite.com and other web sites did not function, screen buttons did not function, pictures did not display.

Buttons are all over the place. the top take up to much screen space and there is no way to make it smaller. Wanted to get rid of Live search..cant get rid of it...Dont download this until they put a LOT of fixes in this.

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excite.com looks fine to me, looks the same in both IE7 and FF. The top bar on mine is about 4 pixles bigger than FF. Live search removes for me.

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i already found bugs. the history does not refresh unless you change and switch back the type of history view. also i organize my tabs in a set order. i expect them to open exactly as i left them. ie7 fails to do this. firefox rc 3 is winning me over so far.....

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Great product , but it stops my hp manager desk top icon from working , and used to stop norton antispam as well , hope these are fixed because its easy to use , Terry

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its because hp manager and norton antispam are badly written programs. i cant tell you how many conflicts ive had with them on my users machines.

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It's just a Firefox wannabe... just like Vista is a Mac OS X wannabe. IE7 may be competent (it's just a browser), but Vista is just the same junk with a new glassy interface (or old in terms of Apple)

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How could Microsoft afford to NOT give IE tabs? All the other major browsers have them. Firefox is just a wannabe as IE is as far as tabs go (I'm positive IE wasn't the first... but who was? Netscape? Opera? A non-Windows browser? Not sure. I think Opera might have been.)

And I have been using Vista, and I must say it is quite different. Unfortunately there are bad experiences as well as good... most problems come from UAC conflicting with older programs, but I except as more programs are written to be Vista-aware we will see such hindrances minimized.

I had a long rant here, but for the sake of your sanity I snipped all 6-7 long paragraphs out. I'll just say if you think all MS did is add glass, you're going to be kicking yourself when everyone is talking about how awesome amnd convenient the new search bars are, the per application volume sliders kick arse, wow look videos have awesome thumbnails, the start menu doesn't barf all over the screen anymore when you open it, etc etc etc.

I won't buy Vista when it comes out, if only because XP suits me fine and I don't spend $400 to fix what isn't broken. But when I get a new PC with Vista I'm going to shell out a few extra $$$ to upgrade that package to Vista Ultimate.

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I'm pretty sure it was Opera. I read it somewhere a long time ago.

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Good game MS. See this BetaNews story:

IE7 Final Vulnerable to Old Exploit
http://www.betanews.com/..._Old_Exploit/1161275418

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These reports are technically inaccurate: the issue concerned in these reports is not in Internet Explorer 7 (or any other version) at all. Rather, it is in a different Windows component, specifically a component in Outlook Express
IE7 in Windows Vista is NOT affected by this bug

http://blogs.msdn.com/ie...rity-vulnerability.aspx

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may give it a try till i get bored then spin the wheel again to see which browser is next.

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I knew I shouldn't have upgraded to 7.0. Now IE crashes every 10 minutes.

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Do a System Restore, IE7's installer should have created one automatically.

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i dont really understand it all, i have used all manner of browsers for a long time, purchased online with them, and still no spyware or viruses, i dont even use an AV or firewall, at all. My PC hasn't been reformatted in at least 6 months.
However I do have nearly every tracking cookie in existence blocked, and ads and the like.
Sometimes, there is annoying problems like IE not playing flash videos. However, justifies my use of 2 or more browsers, my belief it's good to have another browser as a measure because, quite frankly no browser works 100% error free, all the time.

So all in all I like IE7, this final version seemed to have fixed a previous prob for me -- re-opening new tab took an annoying 2 seconds.[i didnt count, honest] Now it is more or less instantaneous. :P

I just think it would be good if microsoft could justify some skin development, although i dont have any niggles with the current interface

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I love IE7. I hate FF.

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Heh, brace yourself. :)

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Fanboys going to change my mind? :p

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Thanks for the nugget.

Not that anyone actually cares, but any particular reason, or is it just a fanboy thing?

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Everyone is giving their opinion...should they not? I love IE7, think it is great and have had no problems with it. I hate Firefox.

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what's to hate about firefox?
not pretty enough for you?

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Hate the minor graphical differences in the way it displays elements on a web page (not standards interpretations, just graphically). I use it regularly to make sure sites I work on are compatible but I can't make it my primary browser. It is slow to open, and I hate the way the system menus navigate. I also prefer the IE7 implementation of tabs with the close button on the tab, and the small blank tab for simply creating a new tab. I do really like the implementation of it's addons, however they do not overshadow the main use of the browser, the displaying of web pages. It has not been denied it's fair share of use at my hand, it just can't convince me to switch.

Every site I visit works perfect for me in IE. I also enjoy good ActiveX implementations and do not fear it. I often visit the shadiest of sites in my exploration of the net without ever having a security issue.

I don't have any problems with IE, why should I switch? Just to jump on the band wagon so I can stick it to MS...er wait..M$?

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"I also prefer the IE7 implementation of tabs with the close button on the tab, and the small blank tab for simply creating a new tab."

i agree, maybe firefox will adopt that feature soon.
i have nothing against IE7 except that it's not compatible with windows 2000.

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both of you are on crack. Firefox DOES have tha toption.

ctrl+T makes a new *blank* tab, and there IS a close button on the tab. its the one with the X on it :P

the only thing i dislike about tabs is if i hit the "home" button it opens up two tabs if i have two homepages set up to open when i run the browser, thats with either.

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I don't know the FF keyboard shortcuts, and don't need to learn them with IE7, which it seems ctrl+T works also; so still not a reason to switch for me. With FF 1.5, the X is all the way across the screen opposite the tabs.

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In Firefox 2.0, the close functionality will be contained within the tab just like it is currently in IE 7, instead of being on the far right as it is currently in FF 1.5. This has been implemented in Firefox in the early beta versions of 2.0.

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i dont know what the big fuss is about, i love them both and would not be happy without both of them on my computer. the thing is about most ie exploits, they require user interaction or stupidity. therefor they arent so bad for me. Practice safe browsing and use a combination of web browsers and you can only enhance your web experiance.

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Try middle-clicking on a tab to close it.

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Yup, does that in IE7 too, still no reason to switch.

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THE most irritating annoyance of Firefox is the multimedia aspect of it. It requires you to download and install Quicktime. I hate quicktime.. it takes over everything. If I go back to IE, it uses quicktime now instead of the media player.
Firefox alone is fine... with most of the addins it becomes one of the biggest spyware programs on the market today.

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An opinion is worthless if there's no good facts backing it.

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1) Firefox is closer to the standard than IE is. Microsoft is not the standard, no matter how much they say they are.
2) If Firefox is slow to open, consider uninstalling or disabling some extensions. Firefox is only as fast and stable as the slowest and least stable extension. Firefox opens in 3-4 seconds on Vista for me, partly thanks to Vista's SuperFetch, and that's with a number of extensions I could part with if needed.
3) Firefox 2 includes close buttons on each tab. Extensions such as Tab Mix Plus allow for customization of this functionality, and backporting to 1.5
4) Double click on a blank space on Firefox's tab bar to make a new tab. Alternatively, find an extension to place an Add Tab button on the tabbar.
5) You should fear ActiveX. You know Windows Update? ActiveX is allowed to modify CRITICAL SYSTEM FILES. This alone is enough to make me limit my IE use to ONLY Windows Update and no other sites. Now if Microsoft more strongly something like Java, which is purposefully sandboxed against programs gaining access to outside resources.

Oh look, Vista no longer uses an in-browser ActiveX control for Windows Update... related to my concerns? We'll see. I certainty can't think of a reason why other than security.
6) Every site works perfect in IE because every site was BUILT for IE. It can't ignored with it's large market share. But now Firefox is starting to get a good chunk too, and web developers are being forced to think about standards unless they want to lose 10-15% of their visitors.
7) Then you are either a) lucky or b) net-savvy enough not to click Yes to every dialog you see. Most users are not like you. It's also possible you decided to enforce stricter security settings in IE as I have.
8) You should switch because IE6 has been out for how many years? And how many vulnerabilities have been patched in it... RECENTLY? Too many. Hopefully with IE7 MS' new focus on security will help with this, but many users still run pre-XP OSs, and can't use IE7. As for you personally, Firefox is the most customizable browser out there, especially considering extensions.

I challenge you to install Firefox 2 RC3 and visit Mozilla Update and browse through the extensions. Search for a feature you've wished you could have while browsing, like say, a yahoo or google mail counter in your status bar...
- or an automatic ad blocker from heaven (AdBlock is pure awesome)
- or an extension to automatically update your ad filters (Filterset.G),
- or the ability to download multiple links at once with only a couple of clicks (DownThemAll!),
- or how about an extension that supports ~30 download managers and can redirect your downloads to your favorite one (FlashGot)?
- Don't like the idea of malicious JavaScript? Use a whitelist to filter out all except scripts you trust (NoScript).
- How about the ability to write scripts to change the appearance or behavior of any webpage on the fly? They can even alter the browser itself if you wish (Stylish + Greasemonkey)!
- Hate error pages when a website times out? Get TryAgain and Firefox will refresh it for you automatically!
- Do you work on webpages? The included DOM Inspector will greatly help with your CSS and HTML debugging... Console^2 is great for CSS and JavaScript debugging, and Web Developer Toolbar is pretty much the tool to end all tools for Web Development.

And here's one last one for you: Want to bring a piece of IE with you to Firefox? IETab can switch between Firefox and IE rendering engines on demand, have filters specified to automatically switch to IE for certain pages, etc. You don't have to trade anything away if you don't want to.

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When I install QuickTime it doesn't take over everything. It tries, but you can stop it easy enough.

Windows Media Player doesn't either, but it tries as well. :)

Firefox doesn't require Quicktime. You choose to install it if you want multimedia content.

Also, you seem to not know what spyware is. Spyware watches you and sends back information you don't want known (in worst cases, usernames, passwords, credit card numbers, SSNs, etc) to someone with malicious purposes.

Quicktime doesn't fit that category. It's a freaking media player. You don't need to ever run the Quicktime Player if you don't want to. The browser plugin can actually handle a decent array of file formats. The WMP plugin Microsoft provides can only handle Microsoft formats.

If you expect another multimedia player for Firefox, you will have to make one. Because MS certainty isn't going to give Firefox a full WMP plugin. And the only other alternative is Apple. It's not Mozilla's fault, they're a browser company, not a multimedia player company.

Oh, unless you use Firefox on Linux, then there ARE alternatives to Quicktime I believe. :)

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what?
no support for windows 2000?
guess i'm staying with firefox.
doesn't make sense for MS not to support their own OS. unless they're trying to force users of legacy OS's to upgrade.

sucks, i almost liked IE7.
:-(

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2000?
Vista RTM is out in 9 days from now.
Then we forget about all IE alternates :)

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Vista?
bad enough i have to put up with the crap in xp, you couldn't pay me to use vista.

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...but we're welcome to try, right?

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uh....isn't it 2006? :D

It makes since because maybe they're trying to coax hold-outs like you to upgrade.

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"maybe they're trying to coax hold-outs like you to upgrade"

s'ok
firefox isn't

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no but microsoft can, and will, pay other companies to make products that dont work on legacy systems, just like they did with xp. which i guess isnt a big deal to some, but others get all bent out of shape with it.

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Ummm... MS doesn't support Win 3.11, 95, 98, or ME anymore either.

What's hard to understand?

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Why would Mozilla care what OS you use?

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i guess that's the point eh.

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Why? I use Firefox on Vista.

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another reason to stay with firefox. no thanks

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What's another reason? You didn't give any at all.

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Because there aren`t any at all :)

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because there IS NO reason to go to IE. PERIOD

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I love these objective, unbiased views that get expressed on this web site.

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lol, then there's no reason to go to Firefox either. In fact there's no reason to do anything! I'm going back to bed.

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if you compare the track record of IE and firefox, it explains it all pretty much. Understanding that IE has been around for a lot longer, but after so much time and still my colander I use to strain my pasta has less holes than IE, I will stay with firefox because of the LACK of security issues it has have in the past compared to even the most recent of IE.

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While IE has a track record globally, it doesn't have one for me, I never have had any security issues. What are you doing that jeopardizes your security in any browser?

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clicks on the "click me!" ads

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It's not IE's fault if the user is a moron.

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I agree, except Firefox users don't have these problems that IE users seem to have. :^)

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Lol, nice analogy, but calm down. IE7 has had a security overhaul from what I understand. I tried about ~28 exploits for IE6 on it... Only 2 worked on IE7! :P A noticeable improvement.

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Browser Wars

Welcome to the next round of the browser wars. Microsoft just released Internet Explorer 7 for Windows XP SP2. Another day, another under -whelming product from the minds at Microsoft. I know I wonder constantly, "what the heck are they thinking?".

Internet Explorer is another reactive (as opposed to proactive) move by Microsoft brought about solely because another company is threatening part of their monopoly. Is there any doubt that IE7 was a knee jerk reaction to Mozilla's Firefox & Opera's web browsers stealing significant market share?
Because they are constantly in reactive (can you say crisis?) mode these days, the results are very predictable. Microsoft's latest reincarnation of Internet Explorer catches up to Firefox & Opera on some features, falls short on others, and in general offers nothing that the others don't. And let's not forget that Firefox 2 is scheduled for release shortly and that Firefox 3 is already under development.

Here are some random snippets on the web regarding IE7.

IE 7 is an attempt by Microsoft to catch rival browsers as it includes features that have long been seen in competitors such as Firefox and Opera.

Internet Explorer 7 is a solid upgrade, but it's disappointing that after five years, the best Microsoft could do was to mostly catch up to smaller competitors.

IE 7 was Microsoft's one chance to leapfrog ahead of the competition, but the company has only barely caught sight of the current front-runners. For more features and greater security, switch to Mozilla Firefox.

The choice is yours. You can enable Microsoft to keep dumping average software on us, or you can vote with your hard earned mind share. Let me know what you think.

Welcome to the next round of the browser wars. Microsoft just released Internet Explorer 7 for Windows XP SP2. Another day, another under -whelming product from the minds at Microsoft. I know I wonder constantly, "what the heck are they thinking?".

Internet Explorer is another reactive (as opposed to proactive) move by Microsoft brought about solely because another company is threatening part of their monopoly. Is there any doubt that IE7 was a knee jerk reaction to Mozilla's Firefox & Opera's web browsers stealing significant market share?
Because they are constantly in reactive (can you say crisis?) mode these days, the results are very predictable. Microsoft's latest reincarnation of Internet Explorer catches up to Firefox & Opera on some features, falls short on others, and in general offers nothing that the others don't. And let's not forget that Firefox 2 is scheduled for release shortly and that Firefox 3 is already under development.

Here are some random snippets on the web regarding IE7.

IE 7 is an attempt by Microsoft to catch rival browsers as it includes features that have long been seen in competitors such as Firefox and Opera.

Internet Explorer 7 is a solid upgrade, but it's disappointing that after five years, the best Microsoft could do was to mostly catch up to smaller competitors.

IE 7 was Microsoft's one chance to leapfrog ahead of the competition, but the company has only barely caught sight of the current front-runners. For more features and greater security, switch to Mozilla Firefox.

The choice is yours. You can enable Microsoft to keep dumping average software on us, or you can vote with your hard earned mind share. Let me know what you think.

I'm Guessing ©2006
imguessingblog.blogspot.com

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Only you could double post in the same thread, genius.

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Have been using IE 7 since the first Beta version came out then kept it updated as they were released. Have experienced no problems that were not fixable right away. As Martha says, It's a good thing.

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The default homepage that IE uses to set preferences seems to be either down/very slow. Probably a lot of confused people right about now...

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lmao..

I love the MS Site:

"We heard you..."

No, they heard their market-share dropping because browsers like Opera and Firefox were stealing the show.

They heard more and more average users looking for alternatives.

They heard the arrival of the 21st century ... a bit late.

Welcome guys. Instead of simply enjoying the ride, perhaps you can actually start earning your market share now?

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On seven test installs I'm already seeing issues that we'll need to address:

1. One machine has a fubar'd IE7 install. The icon on the desktop doesn't work (it creates a shortcut instead of launching IE,) and once it does launch IE it's without any graphical elements. IE worked fine before this point.

2. Google toolbar is pretty much redundant, 99% of people only used it for the search feature, so we'll be removing google toolbar before we roll out IE7. There's too much screen real estate taken away with the toolbar anyway.

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There's too much screen real estate taken away with the toolbar anyway.

Time to upgrade those 14" monitors, man. :p

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We standardize on 19" or larger lcd's with 120 dpi font. Come again?

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You left your sense of humor at home again, I see.

You gotta stop leaving that behind, man...

Hit the 96 or whatever DPI, not the large one. XP sucks at handling the large fonts. (Vista is only *slightly* better at it)

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Show me the funny and I'll laugh.

120 dpi font is far superior to 96 dpi. Text is crisper, larger, far more legible on an LCD. The average age of employees where I work is getting to be in the late 30's, so we need it.

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Your employees eyesight degenerates at 30?

You live in Chernobyl or something?

120 dpi font is far superior to 96 dpi

Subjective. Been there, done that, can't stand it. on LCD, I *far* prefer cleartype and 96.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/576214.stm

I said average. The young kids aren't complaining about 120 DPI, either. I have 20/20, run at 1680x1050 and I couldn't possibly live with 96 DPI anymore on a day-to-day basis.

Whatever floats your boat. We instigated this policy after we went from 19" CRT's to 19" lcds and users immediately noticed smaller fonts that were harder to read.

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i see the funny.
maybe he's in his late 30's too and doesn't have his font set right.

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they probably had to sacrifice their vision plan for those bigger monitors...

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OFT: Wow a toolbar for IE just what i wanted...

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Quero: Convenient Add-On for IE7: Just in time with the release of IE7 I have optimized Quero for the new Microsoft browser. Quero combines navigation and search into one toolbar, finds text as you type (Quick Find) and arms all overloaded users with an integrated ad blocker.

http://www.quero.at/

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Submit this to the FileForum, don't spam the topics with it.

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will hold of for a while i think, bound to be some bugs floating that they missed, and only time will tell if it's secure, it's very easy for them to say it's very secure when there not hackers themselves,

besides i remember when they said the same thing about internet explorer 5.5, then sunshined out of 6.0 and yet now there saying that 6.0 had security problems, well hello, we all knew that at the beggining, still like i said, only time will tell,

couldn't find any new ideas implemented though, only features that they have coppied from other browsers,

i remember 9 months ago when they said IE 7 wouldn't have tabbed browsing, soon changed there tune on that didn't they,

MS does hate it when small little companies come up with original ideas, wouldn't think a big company like MS would be so jealous, they always feel/think that they should have the best it's things like this why hackers put a red cross hair over the company,

they have even gone up against apple now with the zune player, they just can't let someone have something that they didn't design, and it's this reason i hope that the playstation 3 kicks there arse on the field, microsoft is to damn selfish, always want to be in the driving seat, well i can't wait until the day they crash and burn, and give the small guy a chance of being in the driving seat.

see what i mean about security

"Test Case / Demonstration

The test will try to read content from http://news.google.com/ in the context of your browser.

Start the test:

Run Test Again - Left Click On This Link

Result (The result of the test will be displayed below)

Your browser is vulnerable! The test retrieved content from news.google.com in the context of your browser.

This actually means that if you were logged into your bank account, any web site you are visiting would be able to retrieve confidential data from your bank. This could also be used to retrieve personal settings entered on sites like eBay or Paypal.

View Retrieved Content

Credits
The test is based on Proof of Concept code by codedreamer."

security is a joke, they should be sued for plain right lying,

everyone stick with firefox, overall, much more secured, (ecspecially with added extensions)

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Here your first vulnerability:
http://secunia.com/Inter...sure_Vulnerability_Test/

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It is hard to exploit the flaw because it requires the attacker to lure someone to a malicious site, and for the attacker to know what other secure site the visitor might simultaneously have open

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Congrats to Microsoft on getting this out the door. Now the Internet can finally move forward in terms of web design and standards implementation.

I still want to know what they were thinking with that UI, though.

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i have turned the tabs of, and got all the help i need from microsoft... no probloms, on a scala from 0 to 12 it gets 15

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Final is nice

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The only thing I have a problem with is the tool bars.I think there should be a way to merge the bars like in previous versions. I like to have the bars all in one to save space while viewing a site. Also with the tab feature I like the idea of having the option of to show the tab bar or not till a tab is loaded(like firefox). I would also like to see the option of tab location.

Other than that I think it works like it should.
OK so that's my .02 on IE7

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Agreed. I like lots of real estate, but I don't like surfing naked (full screen). So with IE 6, I've been putting all the things I need on one toolbar row.

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So you *do* like surfing naked naked?

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