If they can mantain Eudora usability, look&feel and above everything else, the fact that Eudora works in its own directory and sub-directories only, which means that the whole folder can be ZIPped and archived/copied to backup everything including attachments and settings.. then yes, Mozilla might have an updated Eudora version with added functionality that will be much better than Outlook and Thunderbird BUT if they go the "clone Outlook" rule and deliver another Thunderbird thing discarding Eudora most important features then Eudora will be dead and Mozilla will have no as good as Eudora mail client anymore.

For those who haven't tried it yet, try Windows Live Mail (Desktop)- not to be confused with Live Hotmail.

Sorry, but Thunderbird is multi-platform, and your suggestion isn't.

"This would mean that releases of Thunderbird could also end up being delayed."

When was the last time anyone has seen a release? It's been a while. Firfox has had at least 3 since the last Thunderbird release.

As always, "Follow the money trail." Therein lies the answer.

And, mjm01010101 is right. Thunderbird is definitely a little rough around the edges compared to Firefox. I stopped using it almost a year ago. And, the interface looks like something created by a "challenged" kid in a kindergarten art class.

dracodos, funny but I've gone the opposite way. Since the release of the Windows Live client, I'm actually using Hotmail more than ever over the past dozen years or more. Hotmail actually works now.

And last, PC_Tool is dead-on. Outlook targets the business user. Jeesh, read anything at all about Microsoft's product strategies and you're a fool to argue with that. (Damn, I hate having to agree with PC_Tool.)

Heh...

Oh man... Get out your flame-proof coat.

So many questions unanswered :) They left because they can't agree, maybe they have a better job offer $$ who knows but I'm sure we'll find out the reasons soon enough.

I used to use a different e-mail client loved it, but when the authors stopped working on it and moved on to bigger and better things it was time to change so I went with Thunderbird.
Now I'm not going to say that Thunderbird is better then Outlook, I haven't used outlook in a long long time, and at that time it sucked. So I have no idea what Outlook is like today.
But I do know that Thunderbird is just ok, but I use it now because it's something I'm familiar and comfortable with. So I can't help but wonder what this change will mean for me, if Thunderbird goes the way of delays after delays I will have to consider a different e-mail client to replace it with. I would of never have said this 10 years ago but e-mail has become too important for me, it even impacts my living, incredible.

The Thunderbird client is one of, if not the best, email clients available...free to boot.

I hope this does not impact their release schedule too much.

I like mozilla, firefox, but thunderbird is lacking. It's rules processing is lackluster, it's antispam filtering sucks, and it's been riddled with security vulns since inception.

You seem to have confused Thunderbird with Outlook.

Release schedule? What release schedule?

You seem to have confused reality with your anti-MS BS.

I don't like Thunderbird. I'm not surprised if Mozilla will abandon it

Mozilla could drop Thunderbird tomorrow for all I care. I've used Firefox since its very early days when it was called Phoenix, and I love it. I wanted to feel the same about Thunderbird, but I just don't like it. It's huge, doesn't (or didn't when I last saw it) handle multiple accounts as well as I'd like, and doesn't/didn't support selective downloading from on-server header previews.

I've used Pegasus for years when I'm in Windows, and whenever I try another e-mail client, I always end up going back to that.

For Linux, Evolution is hardly my definition of an ideal client, but it annoys me far less than does Thunderbird.

Read: Can't make money off Thunderbird, mozilla moving focus to Eudora.

I was wondering about this. What happens to the Eudora code? Wasn't that given to the Thunderbird project or does it stay with Mozilla. How would they make money on it? Since the conditions of the hand-over stated the code must got to open-source, they couldn't continue to charge for it like Qualcomm did.

They can certainly show ads with it....like Eudora was doing shortly before they were aquired.

More likely than not, Eudora code will end up inside Thunderbird at some point in the future.

Penelope, from what I hear, is essentially the successor to Eudora, and is very similar to Thunderbird, so will probably be used as a stepping stone for the existing Eudora userbase.

Adverts aren't acceptable in any serious piece of software. Look at how small Opera's userbase was when they were adware. Oh wait, perhaps not the best example... ;-)

I like the Thunderbird client. Since i dropped hotmail, like a bad habit, i no longer needed to have the overbloated Outlook running on my PC. T-Bird is a great lean email client. To think that this could put T-Bird in un-safe waters is troubling, on top of these 2 key members suddenly resigning from the company.

Thunderbird - Personal
Outlook - Business

You can't compare the two.

Sure he can, he just did. Moron!

perhaps he meant you cannot logically compare the two and expect to retain any semblance of credibility among those who actually know what these applications were designed for.

...and what's with the

Moron!

thing you've been pulling lately? Working through a minor case of Tourette Syndrome?

Outlook != Business only

Where do you come up with that?

Perhaps the fact that it was originally bundled exclusively with Microsoft Exchange Server as a replacement for MS Exchange Client 5.0?

PC_Tool, I know I have gotten under your skin sometimes and I have to say that sometimes it was just to get under your skin, but this post had me laughing my head off. Man, I couldn't stop!

You have a very bizarre sense of humor. No, I'm not trying to be offensive. Bizarre is good.

...but still bizarre.

Outlook was available as part of office since Office 97....over ten years ago. You could even buy it separately.

lmao...

Yes, yes it was. Does the fact that it's been available for over 10 years have anything to do with the fact that it was originally released with Exchange server?

Nope...

Man, you didn't even try on that one.

So you are saying M$ does not target home users with Outlook? That is one of the funniest things you have ever said.

PC_Tool looks like a fool yet again.

Four hours later and I'm still laughing. Man, I need to get a life!

And the fact it is no longer exclusive and is used by many personal users today, makes your view somewhat outdated?

"...no longer exclusive"

yeah, for the past ten years. lol.

Actually, you seem to be the fool. He stated that when it was first released, it was for Exchange only. Now if that was over 10 years ago, it wouldn't conflict with being part of Office. Get a clue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Outlook
http://en.wikipedia.org/...crosoft_Exchange_Server

reading comprehension not too good, eh?

The M$ drones say Outlook is for business only. I pointed out the fact it is not only for business.

You point is, what exactly?

Grass is always greener. You have a life. It's just spent online calling people morons. :p

...

Regardless of the minority who use it for personal reasons, it is still *priced* and *marketed* for business use.

Today.

That's outdated, eh?

Look at the product marketing.

Look at the pricing.

Look at where 90% of the product sold is used.

Then try and tell me it's a "Home" email client.

Man, you're clueless.

That it is marketed for, priced for, and bought by businesses?

Of course *some* use it as a personal email client. Hey, some folks even run their own domain servers. I guess you think domain servers aren't for businesses either, eh?

Actually, my reading comprehension is just fine. In fact, my reading level is off the scale. So there. :P

Stop it with the fallacies. You seem to take any argument to the extreme and then think it's reality.

Office is certainly meant for businesses. The price tag alone should help you realize that. There's even a version (Office 2007 Professional Plus, which I use at work) that is only available through Software Assurance. You can't buy it (or Software Assurance) in a store.

Outlook Express is more meant for the public. Only Outlook offers MAPI for Exchange.

i think it's funny a simple comment can turn into an almost flame-war about something completely off the point.

The fact is there are choices, T-Bird, Pegasus, and Outlook (even if it is from the fact it is bundled with Office, it's still an option for personal users and they DO use it, even if the majority is business)

I opted for T-Bird over Outlook because Outlook is more than i needed. T-Bird had what i needed without useless extras like Journal and all that stuff. Hotmail was dropped because it has features i don't need or use. Add the fact i get tons of junk mail on it every day yet my other email accounts don't. I've had them for just as long, if not longer, than my hotmail/live account.

I foresee them branching off and doing their own thing after a little R&R.