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Longhorn Gets a Name: Windows Vista

By Ed Oswald and Nate Mook, BetaNews

July 22, 2005, 12:00 AM

Windows VistaThe folks at Redmond have long pointed to the user interface of the next generation Windows release as one of its major selling points. Now, Microsoft has chosen an official name for Longhorn with just that in mind. Enter: Windows Vista.

Word of the new name leaked out late Thursday after Microsoft tipped off journalists and enthusiast sites of an impending Longhorn-related announcement due Friday morning. "Windows Vista" was first mentioned at a Microsoft sales conference in Atlanta, according to reports.

A video has been made available to showcase the Windows Vista news.

Microsoft has also registered domains to go along with the newly christened Windows, including windowsvista.com. The domains were registered in late March, indicating the company made the decision even before WinHEC gave developers their first taste of Longhorn in over a year.

Windows Vista was initially reported by enthusiast site ActiveWin.

The word 'vista' defined means "pleasing view." According to a source, the name had been first floated about six months ago, although not much more had been said in the following months.

Sources tell BetaNews Microsoft is also rallying the troops -- MVPs and close partners -- to gear up for the Beta 1 release.

Longhorn, or Windows Vista, Beta 1 will be available by August 3, Microsoft said Friday. Beta 2 is expected in early 2006, with the final next generation Windows release expected by the end of next year.

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By amy

edited Apr 19, 2008 - 11:29 AM

slt ca va

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By deki_atanasov

edited Jan 4, 2008 - 8:40 AM

da ja simnam!!!!!

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By fisa_King

edited Jun 15, 2007 - 3:32 PM

I want to actived Windows vista beta 1 .can somebody send me the activation code of windows vista.My serial number is:
(PVYFQ-2JTBV-9KXQ2-FQHDY-MTBVH) and my email is
fisa_king@hotmail.com

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By sagar8200

edited Mar 19, 2007 - 3:50 PM

i whant to installed wendow vista but here is not avaleble so whats i do and i also liked this wendow vista plz give me sagestion about this problem plzzzzzzzz

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By JOSEPH12

edited Nov 23, 2006 - 12:35 PM

YO I NEED TO GET WINDOWS VISTA DO U KNOW HOW I CAN GET IT FAST!!!!

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By sannilayam

edited Nov 20, 2006 - 3:11 AM

when it is going to launch.

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By rajesh.kumar

edited Oct 4, 2006 - 2:56 AM

can some body send me the activation code of windows vista

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By rits85

edited Aug 11, 2006 - 9:04 PM

in windows vista has too many problem it does not support the too many software such as oracle 9i. bcoz i have suffer such problem when i install the oracle 9i then it gives jre.exe error it stop the working i can't understand. such this type of os give this type of error pls help me and give me solution as possible pls i m very thankful to u

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By Parvas24

posted Aug 6, 2006 - 5:12 PM

Sunday, August 6, 2006|02:12 IST

HindustanTimes.com » India » Story

Small town boy reboots Microsoft

GC Shekhar

Chennai, August 6, 2006

He'd wanted to be the next Dhanraj Pillai, but the vista that destiny opened up for A Mahesh led to greener pastures in the world of technology.
The 24-year-old from small town Tamil Nadu has created a software that will add considerable muscle to Vista, Microsoft's brand new operating system due for launch next year.
In all probability, Vista will incorporate Mahesh's creation, which is an image browser, image editor, web browser, system tools and disk manager rolled into one.
In fact, Microsoft has already validated and awarded the product BETA2 iBRO.NET a patent protection certificate.
This means anyone may make use of Mahesh's product using the validation key but would need to pay Microsoft a royalty a part of which would reach this shy lad from Palayamkottai in southern Tamil Nadu.
The first member of his family to reach the post-graduate level, Mahesh developed the BETA2 iBRO.NET as the fifth-year project for his integrated M Sc course in computer science. He chose Vista's developer platform, where individuals are invited to contribute features for Vista.
"For sheer conceptualisation and acumen, his creation shows enormous scope and maturity. It's a full fledged tool that would not only remove deficiencies in Vista but add never-seen features in the OS," explained Dr Krishnan, professor of computer science at Manonmaniam Sundaranar University, who helped fine tune Mahesh's creation.
For example, why a computer hangs remains a mystery to most. But Mahesh's product can display the reasons. It can also optimise the download speed of a broadband connection when needed.
Unlike other OS, it can also display properties of all the drives in the computer simultaneously. "Before Vista is launched, I plan to add more features to make my product more comprehensive," said Mahesh, whose father is a retired peon.
"Such a product would take a team of at least 10 people in a top IT company months to develop. But for a student from a rural background to do all this in just 5 months on his own is amazing," observed N Chokkan, a columnist on computer.
Mahesh, who will soon join IBM at Bangalore, is unfazed by the recognition and remains grateful to his parents and R Panneerselvam, chairman of his school who waived his fees for the five-year course.

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By Ambot_Ninyo

posted Jul 23, 2006 - 10:50 AM

Why don't you use the typewriter instead?? Good ol vintage machines... costs less, virus-free and best of all, enhances your creativity. Wachathink?? :D

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By pracheaur

edited Jun 29, 2006 - 6:49 PM

i don't see why ppl are trying to convince others to switch to mac. arguing about which makes a bettername for the new windows is complete bull. If names really mattered then i feel sorry for ppl called d***. If you're a mac user - stick to ur 'all-so-perfect' system. windows users are doing fine with all the viruses, infections, spyware and adware issues. And there's nothing wrong with copying from others......if there was, most of you guys wouldn't have made it out of high school anyways. If you're a windows user - stick to it and crave for vista, on the other hand, if you're a mac user - stick to yours!

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By amlee17937

edited Jun 26, 2006 - 1:41 PM

would like to trial it. having difficulty opening the file ext.

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By guru_mohapatra

edited Jun 6, 2006 - 2:07 PM

i want to download windows vista.

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By Ammalgam

edited May 5, 2006 - 8:00 PM

I found another site that talks about Windows Vista and is similar to this one. It's called www.windows-vista-update.com. They talk about all the new Vista updates etc..sd

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By grafikdeziner

edited Apr 27, 2006 - 9:11 PM

Well I have to say that i use mac computers at school all day, and i come home to use a pc at night. When at school i im usually running photoshop, illustrator and indesign all at once. Photoshop gives me an error message every time i save, illustrator crashes occasionally, and indesign files become corrupted occasionally. and occasionally i have had the programs "unexpectedly quit" WHILE DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Other thatn these minor setbecks that i get on a daily basis using the mac platform, i would say they are great, except for the fact that i also do architectural drawings using autocad 2006, which is not available for a mac, so i go pc for that. When it comes to using photoshop illustrator and indesign on my pc, i have to say, that when i click the icon to open, i dont even get a splash screen that pops up, it is just open. And this is a a pc with a 3.4 ghz processor and 8 gigs of ram. I work on powermac g5's a school, and i still see the splash screen when i open, along with delays in adding filters, and 3d effects.

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By zoorat

edited Oct 1, 2006 - 12:00 PM

grafikdeziner your comparison is not realy fair seeing as you are using a MAC that is used and abused by many peopel plus not all MAC machines are the same specs.you can't compare a G4 emac to a higher end PC that is used by one person. I use both platforms and both have pros and cons depending on cicumstance.

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By autobus

edited Apr 23, 2006 - 10:05 AM

its possible make download windows Vista in www.warez-files.org fast speed!

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By Majd

edited Mar 7, 2006 - 2:47 PM

I like Vista who ? like this windows Too ?

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By jerry100250

edited Feb 26, 2006 - 7:36 PM

I follow up with the monthly APC mag, I think it was a June 05 issue that had a feature about Longhorn. They also had introduced a software, done by a 'Windows X', which basically transform your XP GUI to make it look like Longhorn. I think that was pretty cool. Although Im still waitng for the real stuff, seems to be taking for ever. Go Vista!

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By venchory

posted Feb 22, 2006 - 6:30 PM

I THINK WINDOWS VISTA IS THE BEST OPERATING SYSTEM I HAVE SEEN SO FAR. WHAT IS THE REASON FOR CHANGING IT'S NAME FROM LONGHORN TO VISTA.
VISTA NEEDS TO ENHANCE IT'S SECURITY FEATURES.
WHEN WILL IT AVAIL IN THE MARKET?

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By bk06

edited Feb 18, 2006 - 1:55 AM

Where can I get the Vista beta? I want to try it out. The link posted by Parvas24 doesn't work. Somebody please help me out!

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By Parvas24

posted Feb 20, 2006 - 12:17 AM

Try windows.czweb.org or try finding Windows portal in Goole search ....

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By abbasi

edited Feb 4, 2006 - 8:26 AM

This is a Best version of windows yet. But there is a bit difficulities to load drivers for video, sound and other Hardwares. Please solve This problem as qucik as possible.

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By talk2dfre

edited Jan 31, 2006 - 4:20 PM

Where can I get the cracked version

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By Parvas24

posted Feb 5, 2006 - 10:50 AM

You get that at http://windows.cz.web.org there you can download the Beta copy of Windows Vista ... you would still need the activation numbers that you can get from the IT form in the same webpage link and look for Windows Vista IT forum you shall get support from people who down loaded the Windows Vista Beta version and got it up and running ..... good luck .....

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By Parvas24

posted Feb 5, 2006 - 11:13 AM

Windows Vista needs to improve its security features so that you do not depend on Antispyware or Antivirus software on it ..... though the Microsoft corporation are working on it to some extent it is yet not so good .... I have been a Mac OS X user and also use Linux Red Hat at home .... I hardly use my PC which has Windows XP loaded because I got hit several times downloading music or software .. or even browsing the Internet Spyware and adware had me running for Linux Red Hat which has very good security features and never had a problem ...... I still prefer my Mac computer as the opeating system is slick and advanced simple to use and never got hit with any virus or spware and adware ... I would certainly recomend Mac to anybody who is willing to be try it .... Mac OS X Tiger has many good programs loaded like iTunes , Quicktime player , iChat , iMovie , iPhoto , Appleworks [ equivalent of Microsoft Office ] , Automator , Spotlight , Safari Browser with built in Pop up blocker and RSS technology , Wigets and Gadgets for a wide range of needs , iSight , the Microsoft Office for Mac OS X Tiger is very good and glossy compared to it's Windows counterpart , also the Apple support is great .... Apple has designed an Incredible Macintosh computer G5 Quad Powermac which had Four processors loaded on the motherboard and runs the Mac OS X Tiger with all the programs and bulit in security features ... the list goes on ..... hello anyone need more information check www.apple.com check out the PwoerMac Quad ... it has DELL / HP / SONY / GATEWAY gasping for a better operating system and are hoping Windows Vista would deliver that ....Well for my love of computers this is healthy thing as it tries to bring out the best of Linux OS , Windows OS and Mac OS X so that users like us can reap the benefits with delight !!!Fasten your seatbelts for the next generation Operating system software and hardwares !!! Anyone agree

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By Parvas24

edited Jan 22, 2006 - 4:18 PM

No doubt the Windows Vista has many features copied from Mac OS X Tiger .... with many widgets and spotlight and many features copied...Still Windows Vista looks good and the best ever Operating system from Microsoft as yet .... also the enormous popularity of Windows XP will ensure that many PC users upgrade to Windows Vista ....but Microsft has to realise that Windows XP might be the King of operating systems now but the World of Computers is aware that Mac OS X Tiger is the World's most advanced operating system easy to use ... also LINUX operating systems like RED HAT LINUX 9.0 , TURBOLINUX , XANDROS LINUX , FEDORA CORE 4 , MANDRIVA LINUX are as powerful and user friendly as Windows and sometimes even better with no viruses or worms ...
Well as of this moment Windows cannot afford to slip up against the fierce competition .... the next 10 years would be interesting .......with many users switching to Mac Operating systems and Linux perating systems ...Hello anybody agree to this .....

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By sara7venus

edited Feb 2, 2006 - 4:47 PM

I am not only a Mac user, but a PC user as well. I know that many ppl bashing Mac OS in this forum have never used a Mac, so therefore, they have no knowledge of the subject. Windoze has a lot going for it, but mostly that it already has market share. Parvas24 is correct in saying that Windoze had better be careful, because Linux and Mac OS (both FREE to develop on) are fierce competition. No whining, sniveling Windoze-only user is going to convince me otherwise. By the way, if you haven't used Mac OS Tiger, then don't make comments about it; it's pointless. You have no credibility and are just wasting space on betanews' server.

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By talk2dfre

posted Feb 1, 2006 - 3:38 AM

Hey think you can give me a tip on using an Imac when I insert my dvd does not play the dvd though it has the drive.

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By shadymohamedfakhrey

posted Jan 17, 2006 - 8:50 PM

well the Worm Zotob has got Windows 2000 users to its knees ..... the next hybrid worm is being aimed at the Windows XP users ..... those who keep sticking to Windows get over it .... Reproductivity with an Operating system with many holes and worms sucks ...... Mandriva OS is recomended .... run your Windows on an External hard drive if you must ....store all you files in Linux Mandriva OS ..... If you own a Mac then you need not worry about the super worms and the next generation viruses aimed at Windows Vista ....!!!!!

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By shadymohamedfakhrey

edited Jan 11, 2006 - 10:16 AM

How do you get the betas?

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By gaudetj

edited Jan 7, 2006 - 9:10 PM

How do you get the betas?

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By drrobotnik

edited Dec 12, 2005 - 4:36 PM

Read the Wiki, it says exactly why its taking so long to release.

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By plaguethenet

edited Nov 17, 2005 - 1:15 PM

just one comment
Quote:
Longhorn, or Windows Vista, Beta 1 will be available by August 3, Microsoft said Friday. Beta 2 is expected in early 2006, with the final next generation Windows release expected by the end of next year.

Isnt this what they have been promising for the last few years? ooo it will come out next year?

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By uetian153

edited Sep 5, 2005 - 2:04 AM

How much time would it take to be available in the market and as u know that the last version has some problem while installing it on the system

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By unbr0k3n

edited Aug 30, 2005 - 11:24 AM

I find it amusing that all people can do is insult the name of an OS that isn't even out, and I doubt most of these people have a subscription to MSDN. So what's the point in insulting an OS that hasn't even hit the shelves?

All I hear is tripe like "Oh, Microsoft is an evil corporate Nazi that STEALS!"

The Matrix stole from Kung-Fu! Oh no! The foundation of the action in the entire series! The Wachowski brothers must be punished for stealing!

Or...

Half-Life and Half-Life 2? A first-person shooter involving alien-like creatures!? That must be a rip-off of Doom! And Heaven forbid a targeting reticle is used! That would be even more stealing!

I wonder if people are seeing just how retarded the Mac and Linux users are being with that "feature theft" argument.

What I have noticed, though, is the Mac and Linux users tend to be quite a bit more immature with their argument presentation and their overall disposition. That tells me something right there.

I'd be so bold as to claim Mac OSX is a coloring book to amuse the visual, and Linux is an OS to make people think of themselves as elite "hackers."

Not all, of course, but that's what I'm seeing the most.

Good job. You sure did pin Microsoft in the corner with bad grammar and overused insults which were applied to an OS that isn't even out for the public (again; I doubt most of these people have an MSDN subscription, let alone a computer these anti-Windows advocates would put the OS on to give it that shot).

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By sara7venus

posted Feb 2, 2006 - 4:56 PM

You see things through rose colored glasses, unbr0k3n. Windoze is not the wonderful OS you make it out to be. If you haven't recently used a Mac, then don't go on and on about how crappy the OS is, and don't turn the argument into a personal attack against all Linux and Mac OS users/developers. I use Mac AND Windoze, and I can see clearly which is the superior system. You are an elitist Windoze user (because you've probably known nothing else), which tells me that no matter what comes out from any other OS, you will always be a Windoze user. Good luck with that. By the way, most people don't have a MSDN subscription because it isn't worth it.

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By Acefire

posted Sep 1, 2005 - 12:42 PM

For unbr0k3n ... Oh Yeah ... Windows Vista cracked copies are avaliable on the internet ... got it from those who develop it .... not as effective as Windows XP .... if you try it you will know ..... Microsoft developers for Windows Vista now are postponing the release of Windows Vista or Longhorn to next year end .... the core of the operating system is only 75% stable as compared to Windows XP .... needless to stay one should stick to Windows XP updates if you use Windows .... untill a newer version of Windows Vista is avaliable .

As far as Linux and Mac OS X Tiger are concerned ... Mac OS X is definately superior .... cool to use .... great support form Apple ... is getting better everyday ..... Linux OSMandriva needs further improvements .... already preloaded on many new computers in ASIA these days on Desktops and Laptops ... It is time the world embraces change and all computer users are exposed to different Operating systems so that they choose what they want to use ... sadly most computer users are exposed only to Windows OS ... no fault of theirs ... If you are following only Windows OS then IT IS LIKE DONKEYS ARE LEADING THE LIONS TO THIER DOOM !!!! Think outside the box ....

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By rcns

edited Aug 15, 2005 - 7:50 AM

Gostaria de fazer um teste com o novo Windows Visa, sou técnico de hardwere e faço muitas indicações de compras de sistemas operacionais.
Grato

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By King_Rapist

posted Aug 16, 2005 - 5:04 AM

well if you want a copy of windows vista beta 1 to play around with..you most likely will need an MSDN subsription to obtain it..or you can illegally get it from a torrent site..good luck

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By Parvas24

posted Aug 16, 2005 - 1:44 PM

what is a torrent site ? ...

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By King_Rapist

posted Aug 17, 2005 - 3:22 PM

Bit Torrents are file sharing on large scale by multiple users its free and requires minimul software..spyware and adware free...a good torrent site is www.torrentspy.com and the best torrent application is bitlord 1.1

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By King_Rapist

edited Aug 11, 2005 - 9:31 PM

Well since windows is the prefered platform for all the major software companies we all have no choice but to use it..besides windows to me has a stable foundation..it works for me..ive never had any problems with it..and yes ive been from 3.1 to vista beta 1..and besides you ask whats wrong with windows..well whats wrong with OS X or any other form of unix..well for starters its reproductive values..wait it has none..get over it..microsoft is at the top cause it has a top of the line product..and yes they shouldnt copy features from OS X or whatever they snake s*** from..but hey nothing is original anymore anyways...jus like all you guys..so yea if you like OS X then stick with and dont b**** about windows..if you like windows..dont b**** about OS X...and as far as linux goes..to many damn distrobutions..but if u find one you like then stick with it..i suggest knoppix or gentoo

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By sara7venus

posted Feb 2, 2006 - 5:03 PM

On most of your points, you're wrong, King_Rapist. Nice name, by the way - it shows your intelligence and sensitivity, but mostly your intelligence. Heh. As far as development goes, most of the major media outlets use Macs for their enterprise applications, and for a lot of Java development. This is because they don't want to throw money down the drain with windoze apps anymore. None of that ASP sh**. Many windoze users don't know it, but many of the web applications that companies pay to have developed, including those running e-mail, forms, database, and other various java applications, were done solely on Macs. windoze is far from top of the line, as can be seen in the many security exploits and several "blue screen of death" incidents that users have. It's so sad to see so many ignorant people who just have no clue about what they're missing, and yet who feel that they are superior enough to rant about something they know nothing about.

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By Acefire

posted Aug 22, 2005 - 12:08 AM

well the Worm Zotob has got Windows 2000 users to its knees ..... the next hybrid worm is being aimed at the Windows XP users ..... those who keep sticking to Windows get over it .... Reproductivity with an Operating system with many holes and worms sucks ...... Mandriva OS is recomended .... run your Windows on an External hard drive if you must ....store all you files in Linux Mandriva OS ..... If you own a Mac then you need not worry about the super worms and the next generation viruses aimed at Windows Vista ....!!!!!

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By qwertyu

edited Aug 10, 2005 - 5:27 PM

good info about Windows Vista is here:
http://www.windows-vista.host.sk/

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By qwertyu

edited Aug 4, 2005 - 3:13 PM

WindowsXP SP3 - Service Pack 3 Fixes and Features Preview, IE7, Windows Media Center Update Emerald, Vista - http://www.windowsvista.webz.cz/

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By Juan_T

edited Jul 28, 2005 - 10:41 AM

God thanks the Mac OS exists.

Where the hell do you want Microsoft to gain inspiration?

After all , they're bad at copying too!

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By Parvas24

posted Aug 2, 2005 - 7:24 PM

IBM 's PC technology has benn sold to Lenovo - China ... Microsoft has several Software devlopers including open source progammers in China ... looks like all the PC and Microsoft technology is going down the Yantze river !!! well at least the Macintosh is still mostly inside the USA ... I feel more Americans should trust Macintosh as difficult times ahead and other foriegn companies are buying American companies out ... leaving nothing for the future generations in the USA ... I still look forward to Windows Vista ... hopefully the cheap copies Windows OS pirated in China has to come to an end ... No deals with a communist Nation ...

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By cmarston

edited Aug 2, 2005 - 11:02 AM

As soon as Mac offers anything whatsoever to the developer's community I'll consider comments like your's actually grounded in intelligence. A pretty interface is about the only thing that Mac OS has going for it and I'd just as soon not waste my processor power on such frivilous, superficial crap. That seems to be the motto at Apple though: Form Over Function. They seem content to just bombard people with advertisements for shiny little computers that can't do anything. But, I'm sure you're right, I'm sure Microsoft is deeply concerned about Apple's approximate 2% marketshare. Concerned enough, in fact, to outrightly rip off the entire Mac OS.

Lest we forget that, while the original Windows OS was a rip off of the original Mac OS, the original Mac OS was a rip off too. It's a business of thieves, so you'd better get used to it.

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By sara7venus

posted Feb 2, 2006 - 5:09 PM

I just love how windoze users trash the intelligence of anyone mentioning the Mac OS in their posts. Grow up! I use Macs and PeeCees, and from reading your post, I don't think you've ever been in the same room as a Mac. Apple market share is growing at the pace of about 1 million users per year. I know it isn't a lot, but it's obviously enough to make all you poor windoze users get a little bit defensive.

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By Parvas24

posted Aug 2, 2005 - 7:12 PM

Most of the world's top institutes like NASA depend on Mac OS X . Though Mac OS X has a small share currently in todays market ... the system is excellent ... it is like a BMW among cars ... while Windows is just about any regular cars like Honda / Ford ... Mac OS X definately is a superior operating system .. unlike Windows XP or the forthcoming Vista which is cheap OS with copied stuff .. late in the game .. able to load on any PC is a poor excuse for making an Operating system ... let Microsoft make thier own Hardware and computers to load their Windows on then we shall see the difference ... Linux Mandriva is excellent for that matter .. is a freeware and loads on any regular PC is very good and Linux OS seems to be the Operating systems of the future .... Windows just have to be erased ... The only good thing about Microsoft is that the MS office ....

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By SquallLeo

edited Sep 4, 2005 - 12:02 PM

you know some OS, but you know nothing about cars. There is no BMW who can beat Honda NSX (try reading first before saying dumb s***) and Ford you can choose GT-40 GT90 Mustang (almost any) and BMW you have the M3 (too expensive for the few good things it has) M5 (too heavy) and the best should be the Z8 which by the way is more than you can ever afford pal. You can go and search the internet for great cars like Porsche Ferrari Lamborghini... but for you... better than bmw is mercedes try that for a change.

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By viking396

edited Aug 19, 2005 - 12:26 AM

Quote Parvas24 "Most of the world's top institutes like NASA depend on Mac OS X . Though Mac OS X has a small share currently in todays market ..."

They use it because of the fact it's got so little of the market. They know that script kiddies and the like are having too much fun with trying to screw up a company with 90+% of the market.

"the system is excellent ... it is like a BMW among cars ... while Windows is just about any regular cars like Honda / Ford ..."

Tell that to the people who get the crashes from hell. OSX has its share of issues, ignorance of them doesn't make it all that and a bag of chips.

"Mac OS X definately is a superior operating system .. unlike Windows XP or the forthcoming Vista which is cheap OS with copied stuff .. late in the game .."

Copied stuff, oh, you mean like how Apple copied stuff? Or insert name of software company here ______, what planet you from? Guess how Apple got its original GUI, sheeesh.

"able to load on any PC is a poor excuse for making an Operating system ..."

You sure about that? Seems like that's one reason why they have over 90% market share. It may also be a reason why so many people attack it.....

"let Microsoft make thier own Hardware and computers to load their Windows on then we shall see the difference ..."

Oh yeah, thats telling them! You have a truck parked in the front yard and a Kerry sticker on the bumper?

"Linux Mandriva is excellent for that matter .. is a freeware and loads on any regular PC is very good"

It took over 10 YEARS to load on what you call a regular PC, Linux still isn't ready for prime time average Joe.

"and Linux OS seems to be the Operating systems of the future ...."

Linus would be proud, now that you've said it, do you know why you said it, what do you have to back that up besides empty air.

"Windows just have to be erased ... The only good thing about Microsoft is that the MS office ...."

Ignorance of History and your commentary shows you don't know much. There is room for Linux, OSX and Linux, fanboys aside there will be a day when Linux is ready for the average guy/girl and Apple has jumped over to X86 so it's only time before Windows has true competition and people can finally choose between OSX and Windows on a X86 based PC.

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By popickhater

edited Sep 19, 2005 - 8:14 AM

Look guy... All I have to agree with you, is that MAC makes some pretty descent computers... The new G5 with the dual 2.7 processors is a great idea, especailly when using Adobe apps. or doing anything in general with music, photos, movies, and any other type of media... But aside from that, Windows Server 2003 is far more superior operating system than OSX... I don't give a damn if you think NASA can only operate on a MAC... Being that I am a MSDN subscriber, a Beta tester, an IT Pro for Microsoft, I am aloud to say that... If Mac was so great, why doesn't everyone use it? And if the OS is so great, why can't you loud it on any type of computer? Hell, and if MAC computers are so great, why are they switching from the G5 processors to an Intel processor? If you take a MAC computer apart, the hardware isn't far from the Windows machines... Of course the new Windows Vista is going to be similar, do you think that Microsoft wants to make a difficult OS for all of the current windows users? Honestly, what do you think the now windows user would do, if everything was put into a thumbnail? Not to bag Steve Jobs, would you mind telling me what he said in his little conference in Boston last April?

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By Acefire

posted Aug 23, 2005 - 3:09 AM

Look viking396 .........Zotob ..... filestat ... Boo ... Boooo.... worms are after Windows .... if more and more people are moving over to Linux and Mac OS X ...... Windows XP is a modest operating system ... the problems are just geting worse everyday and it is in the news worldwide .... the game is still wide open to the best OS ... by that I dont mean Linux , Mac OS X or Windows ....maybe something else like next generation of Solaris might get the major share !!! Microsoft which has a huge market share has to do a lot better ...... since everybody at schools are exposed to Windows from the begining .... however when you realise that you have a choice ... it is always better .... use Windows if you have to but definately Mac OS X is a far superior and easier to work with ... Linux Mandriva is good too ... shall have more users in the future .....

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By unbr0k3n

edited Aug 29, 2005 - 11:46 AM

Here's a question for people.

You want to make a virus to spread throughout the world and cause as much damage as possible. You going to go with Mac OS X, or the dominant operating system on the market?

So, upon keeping the question in mind, what would happen if Mac or Linux became the major player in the operating system "game?" People would soon be switching their reticles over to the new beasts in an attempt to take them down.

Linux is not impenitrable, and people who know how to use it tend to be far more vicious. So what could be projected if Linux won? Meaner, nastier virii. Why? Linux isn't an OS for the mediocre computer user.

I've had nothing but problems when on the Mac OS. Time and time again, I've had resource issues and it would crash far too often. I hated it. I tried on more than one occasion to give the Mac OS a chance, but each time, it fell face first into the pavement. Mac OS is worthless to me.

And to be honest, someone with a pulse can figure out how to safeguard their computer enough to almost eliminate the threat of a virus. I get one once in a while, sure. It doesn't last more than a day, however. Beyond that, I have no problems whatsoever with Microsoft's products, and I look forward to what Vista can bring to the table.

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By matte10

edited Jul 27, 2005 - 8:30 AM

I like microsoft's Vista b/c it brings change. I think for a while it will be good and bad for MSFT. It may generate more money for them (b/c you and all of china won't be able to pirate it), but at the same time they will probably lose market share b/c too many people like to steal music, movies, and apps. But i think after all those PC's with their "pirated partitions" stop working b/c of virus' and as most applications start to become written in "Trusted" code, and stop running w/out being verified, people will eventually move to the "Trusted platform" and the days of file sharing will become a moderate underground hobbie. Unless those creating the files and applications like having thier information stolen, or they believe in an ideological internet socialist society, where their IP should be shared by all,(I think money will speak louder than progress), then people may someday still "file share". If you wonder what i'm talking about, you should take a harder look at the PC industry. With Vista i am talking about full-volume encryption, with all the apps and file types i'm talking about something bigger, and a little deeper.

It all starts in the pre-boot process. Once initialized in the factory, or by you the first time, your PC will create ownership and keys for all components of the PC, e.g. CPU, graphics, USB, Ram, ect. Then they will verify all apps associated with components. Creating more keys, or something like that. Anyway, if there is anychange to apps or components different things may happen, anywhere to notification to rendering useless. Also the file types running will be verified and either work or not work. Its more complicated but that is the breakdown.
Oh, there are a couple ways to beat it. One, don't conform to future applications or files (ha, you'll be like the caveman right when he got fire). Two, find a collision in SHA-1, (then you can hang out with those three chinese geeks) and write a program to utilize it. Three, get a clean room and the technology to intercept info packets being sent across the southbridge, you might have a chance then.

any questions do some research

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By Dahms

edited Jul 26, 2005 - 11:31 PM

Microsoft picked vista to best describe the new OS by telling you the biggest 5 problems in the name

Viruses
Infections
Spyware
Trojans
Adware

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By kellycarl

edited Jul 30, 2005 - 11:01 AM

LMAO Right On "Dahms" ! Thats sure the truth about the Viruses-Infections-Spyware-Trojans-Adware.

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By katch22

edited Jul 26, 2005 - 9:39 PM

Acefire...is that the only thing you mac users say???? is that the best you can do? remember, in the day, apples had their chance.....what happened, everyone went to windows....why, because they work, macs are with out a doubt the worst i mean, when it crashes, not if, but when it does, you data is gone, zero, windows, hey at least in DOS anything can be recovered....jeeesh, you still listening to disco too?
NOW, about vista, the name needed further thought, but still hasn't impressed me all that much, XP is good enough for now, m$ is notorious for rushing products out before they have proper time to analyze the outcome, other then IE7, which i can get on any of my XP w/SP2 box's anyway, there is no need to rush into it.

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By sara7venus

posted Feb 2, 2006 - 5:13 PM

Wow... Another post showing the average intelligence of the average PC user. I'm not sure that you've ever seen a Mac, let alone used one. Your post is not very well-informed, and so I'm sure you're just another poor sap who's on the defensive because so many more people seem to be showing up to cheer on the Mac OS. I have never had any computer crash on me with no data left, be it windoze or Mac - anyone with half a brain can figure out how to restore a hard drive.

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By krmilkman

edited Aug 4, 2005 - 12:18 AM

Brain washed... that what all you Window users are. It's not your fault, you just don't know any better. I have been working in the computer world for about 12 years now using both PC and Mac hand in hand. I ONLY have a PC at home because they are cheap and goodm for games (But the XBox 360 will put an end to that). Mac's have had their crap together since day 1 and Microsoft has been playin cath up since day 1. Mac crash, yea sure but not half as much as PC's! And at least when a Mac crashes it tells you why, PCs crash and give you a blue screen with a description for IT pros. And talk about user friendly, Macs have been that way since they were born. PCs...finally have come around since XP, wow that's about 10 years in the waiting! The ONLY reason people went to PCs instead of Macs was MONEY. Apple knew they had a good reliable (Friendly) computer that would satisfy everyone, so they charged for it. Microsoft said look these are crap lets sell them for a dime a dozen and then get our money back for service calls (lmao). So don't talk (****) if you have no clue!

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By Parvas24

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 12:00 AM

Hi Katch 22 .... no hard feelings here ... Mac OS X Tiger is far advanced than Windows at the moment ... I use Windows sometimes too as I started first with Windows in earlier days ... As I work is software designing it exposed me to various OS .... Mac OS X Tiger is extraordinary .... Windows XP is for is okay but I still feel that Microsoft can do better ... Windows Vista has many features like Pallidum security and 3D setup ..also spotlight finder features which Mac OS X Tiger already has .... Also the Internet explorer in Windows is poor ... not recomended by PC Mags .... a lot of worms like Windows ... Back in the days Windows 95 was good .. times change .. so do the perfrmance of Mac OS has improved tremendrously .. .. Mac OS X is user friendly ... Safari RSS browser is excellent with bulit in Google search ...Microsoft Windows Vista is coming up now with a similar feature on Internet explorer RSS due next year .... I browse any site now without fearing viruses ... also I download lots of music which makes the life easier on a Mac OS X . My Windows PC is still vulnerable to these worms .... Also I always keep and external harddrive to my Mac OS X ... helps me keep my stuff safer and eay to recover ... it has not crashed on me as yet ... but my Windows crashes often ... so I recomend Mac OS X Tiger over Windows .... Linux is a good alternative less problems on it and Mandriva Linux is a freeware and is COOL .... I have partitioned the hard drive of another computer at work with three OS on it ... guess ?? it has Windows 2000 / Linux Kernell / Mac OS 9 on it !!!

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By maniakmx3

edited Jul 26, 2005 - 12:53 PM

It's official...Microsoft is taking over. I can't wait to recive the beta!

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By Acefire

posted Jul 26, 2005 - 12:20 AM

STOP stealing features out of Mac OS X ... PEOPLE are losing faith in Windows ... too many problems with poor performance in Windows ... If you want to see the original OS then check out at www.apple.com Mac OS X is the World's most advanced OS .

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By Qxxx

edited Jul 26, 2005 - 3:26 AM

I tried Mac OSX, 10.3 and Tiger... for 4 Months. And all I can say, I am happy i sold the crap and bought some power machine with windows! Mac OSX is a way toooo slooowww! sorry, nice GUI but crappy performance. I tried to work with more than 2 bigger apps (photoshop / illustrator) in the same time, forget it! - Windows is the king here. And what about picture browsing? jesus! on a mac I need to wait and wait and wait to view a little pic. on a windows pc some picview app will start asap. And, there is nothing like "Picasa" for the Mac, if yes, it is too slow. sorry mac, i tried you, you are not for me. you are a computer for womans... it true. we folks need power, (oh i know.. mac osx is based on unix.. but its to slow..) if you need linux, install it on a intel machine, no ppc.

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By sara7venus

posted Feb 2, 2006 - 5:18 PM

Yet ANOTHER intelligent posting from yet ANOTHER peecee user. Wow. I am astounded. Your post has no credibility - I don't believe you. Sorry, but I'm running both PC and Mac, and my Mac runs Illustrator, Photoshop, Quark, and InDesign all at the same time with no problems, even running filters in Photoshop and changing large files. If I even THINK about running Illustrator and Photoshop simultaneously on my PC (which is newer than my mac, fyi), it slows down to half its normal speed.

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By Parvas24

posted Jul 26, 2005 - 12:15 AM

Windows has had many chances before .. Windows95 .. Windows 98 ... Windows 2000... Windows ME .... Windows XP ... Windows promises but fails to deliver ... most importantly ... Windows is just another name for Viruses ... Spyware ... poor operating capability ... Still Microsoft due to its worlwide marketing able to sell its poor software for high prices !!! People who want to go ahead with Microsoft are free to do so .... but I feel that many are turning to other OS like Linux - Mandrake ... and Mac OSX as they are far advanced and reliable than Windows ... even if Windows brings out a few more operating systems shortly they still lag behind Linux and Mac OS X .

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By Hexalon

posted Jul 27, 2005 - 1:04 AM

I agree that you can get by with out Windows. They have the market cornered for gaming and having tons of software to pick from.

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By maniakmx3

posted Jul 26, 2005 - 3:09 PM

The only reason Windows has Virus's and MAC OSX doesn't is because of this very important thing...Everyone uses Windows! 80% of the US is on Windows...Why would hackers only want to AIM at the 14% MAC Users? or the few Linux users? They're gonna target the Majiority...Windows is a much better operating system all around. I currently use Windows XP Pro. SP2. I have no problems with Virus's...Spyware or anything. Why? because I'm a smart user. I've been using windows ever since 3.1 and there is 2 Window's OS's that were absolutly horrible...Windows 97 (alot of you never saw it) and Windows ME. As far as Windows overall stability? Don't mess with system files. and watch what you do on the net. STOP DOWNLOADING PORNO! 90% OF MOST TROJANS RIDE IN ON PORNO LIKE A PONY! Windows VS Mac in performance? Unless your a Graphics designer....don't touch a mac!

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By sara7venus

edited Feb 2, 2006 - 5:24 PM

Another false statement about WHY Windoze computers get viruses. It isn't because most people use Windoze. It's because the people writing the viruses HATE Microsoft. It's a fact. MS keeps its code hidden from the world, and charges an arm and a leg to develop on its mediocre system. That's the incentive for these virus-creators. Not just because windoze is used by more people. That notion is ridiculous, and it shows that you probably haven't been using a computer for very long. I don't believe that you've been using windoze since 3.1.

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By crashoverride

edited Jul 26, 2005 - 9:50 PM

Also, the only reason Windows Virus are of any threat is because of the multitudes of windows users out there who are either ignorant of pc security or won't learn. I mean if the security holes weren't there this wouldn't be a factor but the simple fact is that it is a factor because they do exist. So if some one ends up wit a virus, worm, trojan, adware or any variation of these it's their fault because they haven't properly prepared themselves to deal with the threat.

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By Cleric

posted Jul 25, 2005 - 11:45 PM

Its just a Name
As long as the OS works properly, they can call it "dangadoodle eat my poo poo" as far as I care. Just give me a Good working, user friendly OS. If they give me that, I could careless what the name is.

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By h.mac

posted Jul 25, 2005 - 9:54 PM

All other windows are useless.Windows VISTA is new give chance.VISTA means no more computer crashes,viruses,spyware,adware,no more drivers installaton and more inovatve.WINDOWS VISTA IS HERE TO STAY SO GET USE TO IT!

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By supercrackadict

edited Jul 25, 2005 - 6:47 PM

Wow, they were really creative with the name there... I cant believe they wasted millions looking for a name that crappy when they could be using it to create a better system. Anyways i believe, sure microsoft has a better user interface, but it is still a much more ineficient system. Linux, or Mac , are much better systems with quite good user interfaces and theyre much better at processing. So im sticking with Linux. Because Microsoft is only good at selling systems made for dummies, theyre easy to use thats the only good part. But for any coputing they really just are plain slow. Also the system is very insecure. 99.9 percent of the viriuses and spyware out there are for windows. Do you ever see any for mac or linux? No, you hardly ever see any for them. And its not because windows is the most common, because linux is used for servers which would hold a lot more valuable information than a home computer so why not break into that instead? well its simple.. its because u cant!! linux and mac are such secure systems that it is much harder to exploit security faults because there arent any.,
so i say forget microsoft, im going for performance and security.. but hey dont let my opinion change yours, just do some research and choose for yourself.. LATER!!!

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By SorenMD

posted Jul 25, 2005 - 7:44 PM

VISTA is the worst name I have ever heard of for an OS. Thats the best you can come up with Microsoft? That is so pathetic.

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By keypad

edited Jul 25, 2005 - 11:27 AM

Vista is an acronym - Viruses, Infections, Spyware, Trojans and Adware

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By oncrak_ithnk

edited Jul 26, 2005 - 5:31 PM

hey keypad you must work for microsoft. because you hit the nail right on the head

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By firosit

edited Jul 25, 2005 - 2:42 AM

Any name that given by Microsoft should be smart eligible for the OS.

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By trungnt88

edited Jul 24, 2005 - 11:42 PM

I think that the name Longhorn is much better than Vista! Whatever the name of new Windows version, I still wiat for it...

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By mandude

edited Jul 24, 2005 - 3:13 PM

haha I don't know about you guys but I much rather the name "Longhorn" than "Vista." and haha i like aminochaos post; i do believe it means more of Viruses, Infections, Spyware, Trojans and Adware.

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By ss32

posted Jul 24, 2005 - 3:17 PM

VISTA??? rofl.
i say hasta la vista to that name.
seriously, couldn't they think of anything better?

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By revelatiocalypse

edited Jul 24, 2005 - 1:52 AM

Well I have used every possible Windows OS and I have also used Linux and Mac OS. I agree that Mac OS X Tiger is pretty cool, but I think I will place my bet On Windows Longhorn a.k.a Vista, after all if Mac is the crouching Tiger, Windows is the hidden Dragon. You can always count on them to give you something unexpected.

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By sara7venus

posted Feb 2, 2006 - 5:26 PM

Yeah, something unexpectedly crappy. No doubt.

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By Zygi

edited Jul 24, 2005 - 6:50 AM

Asta la vista, baby :D
Too much Terminator i think ;)

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By Parvas24

edited Jul 24, 2005 - 1:06 AM

I had faithfully followed Windows 95 to Windows XP .... I must say that they are easy to operate ..... however for the past couple years my Windows XP frequently got infected and with viruses and spyware ... from emails to Kaaza music ... I had to take it for servicing more than 6 times in 12 months ... my wife always prefers Windows XP and is eager to try out the forthcoming Windows vista .... I had discovered the World's Most Advanced Operating System when I purchased Apple's Macintosh Laptop G4 computer . This Mac OS X Panther is extremely good ... Mac OS X Tiger released two months ago is unbeliveably good .... never have I felt this good ... this Mac OS X Tiger has iTunes /iLife/ iChat /iMovie /Safari RSS brower /Automator /Spotlight search / iCal / with lots of bundled software . Also I do not worry about viruses or spyware anymore ... Infact the performane and reliability is excellent ... I am a web designer and programmer ... I definately recommend anyone who has used Windows Operating system before to try the Mac OS X Tiger or Panther ... if they feel the same way as me let me know ... All I want to say for Microsoft Windows Operating system is " AN APPLE A DAY KEEPS WINDOWS AWAY !!!" Mac OS X is the best ... people who use Windows will only dream about matching its reliability and advanced features . Microsoft may be the most used operating system now but it does not mean that they are the best ...

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By improvelence

posted Jul 25, 2005 - 10:26 PM

I am sorry dude, but you are a moron.
If your system gets infected with viruses and spyware it is YOUR FAULT, dont blame the operating system. What you really should do is educate yourself how to use a computer and how not to be a brain dead moron. Mac OS is great and so are most flavors of Linux...but dont use the spyware and virus excuse to support your statements, it just cheapens your intelligence.

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By hybby

edited Jul 25, 2005 - 9:03 AM

I've been on XP for two years without one virus infection. It's all about how you look after your box; if you frequently get infected you need to look at how to keep it cleaner.

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By jeffjose

edited Aug 2, 2005 - 12:58 PM

dont say you dont have virus attacks with windoes xp...a whole new range of virusezz are there for win xp...only thing you are not a net user !!! that's why you are not infected ;)...

...But i always welcome microsoft to come with new software becoz its good to haver new softwares(os) in the q!!!!

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By goonybird

edited Jul 24, 2005 - 8:09 AM

Mac OS might be worth looking into, once a
port to x86 platforms is released. Till then, it seems kinda useless, what with Apple's 4% of the hardware market share......

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By Windcrit

edited Jul 23, 2005 - 11:30 PM

Are we going to have to pay to just look at it?

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By aminochaos

edited Jul 23, 2005 - 5:05 PM

Does Windows "Vista" mean more Viruses, Infections, Spyware, Trojans and Adware?

I think it does...

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By mithalshweta

edited Aug 2, 2005 - 5:31 AM

I think its preety good to say "Vista as Viruses, Infections, Spyware, Trojans and Adware" by aminochaos. I just don't understand why does a name bothers that much to people. I think it should be the features of an OS that should matter along with how it suits you according to your need.

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By Ausboy

edited Jul 23, 2005 - 9:01 PM

Well its good to see that we already have closed minded freaks leaving their uninformed opinions on the net about an OS they have never seen or used by the public.

Well-done aminochaos...

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By Galway

posted Jul 23, 2005 - 5:09 PM

So long as they do a Vista Pro Corp i dont really care.

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By kyle v

edited Jul 23, 2005 - 2:50 PM

windows vista sounds funny windows LongHorn should have been the official name

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By Banquo

posted Jul 23, 2005 - 11:50 PM

Yes, because naming an OS after cattle would have made much more sense. Yes, I know the name was taken from some obscure little bar at some ski resort but your average consumer is going to be wondering what Texas steers have to do with software. Longhorn would have been a stupid name; it's just that everyone is used to after so many years that it doesn't sound as stupid anymore. Trust me though, it's still just as stupid.

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