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PS3 Passes 1 Million Sales Mark in Japan

By BetaNews Staff, BetaNews

July 18, 2007, 4:06 PM

Sony's PlayStation 3 has passed the 1 million unit sales mark in Japan, game publisher Enterbrain reports. It took about eight months for the company to reach that mark, a half-year longer than it took competitor Nintendo to reach the same milestone. As of July 15, Sony sold 1.01 million PS3s, compared to 2.9 million Wii consoles being sold. Microsoft has sold 420,705 Xbox 360s in Japan.

Microsoft has always struggled to do well in the region, so its low sales numbers are not altogether surprising. However, Sony has always performed well in Asia, easily outselling its rivals. The PS3 has been on sale in the country since November 2006, with the Wii debuting the following month. The Xbox 360 has been available in Japan since December 2005.

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By Hollywood__

edited Jul 22, 2007 - 9:40 PM

Did someobody say something? I noticed they didn't bother to defend themselves about the lies they told before the European launch.

The fact that they had the time to go back and screen capture my previous posts makes them a complete "looser" with nothing better to do.

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By Hollywood__

edited Jul 22, 2007 - 9:06 PM

Did I hear someone say they have 15 PS3's?

Coming from the same guy who claimed he owned one three months before they launched in Europe. This is the most pathetic post so far.

It appears he has scaled back to only a select few usernames now. Still a complete "looser".

Some of us had the benefits of a private schooling, secret handshakes, and a classical education.

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By Benjamin Linus

edited Jul 22, 2007 - 3:00 PM

"Some of us had the benefits of a private school"

It's referred to as a "special school" over here..

Hollywood__: "Sony will call it quits on the PS3 right after Christmas 2007. I heard this from a reliable source"
http://img404.imageshack...04/7108/51895396af3.png

Hollywood__: "The PSX failure rate was 81% and the original thick PS2 was 73%. That's a fact."
http://img65.imageshack....65/8619/22502397jd9.jpg

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By MinuteMaid

posted Jul 23, 2007 - 8:11 AM

LOL :-)

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By Hollywood__

posted Jul 21, 2007 - 12:32 PM

I love the fact that I can drive somebody to a bleeding ulser over something so stupid. Sony did project 1 million units before the end of '06 but they were only off by 7 months.

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By DaveBG

edited Jul 21, 2007 - 11:39 AM

Hollywood__ is a retard and an idiot, PS3 in N1 even now:

http://www.amazon.com/gp...4301&pf_rd_i=468642

Sorry Holly, you suck...

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By siryak

posted Jul 21, 2007 - 11:46 AM

ROFL...Was that supposed to prove something? It is like bragging because your clearance items sold fast...

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By Hollywood__

posted Jul 21, 2007 - 12:38 PM

siryak,

He is pissed because nobody takes a gaming system they don't even own as seriously as him.

Oh yeah, and did I mention the same person has 30 usernames and responds to himself?

I could swear I've mentioned that maybe once before. He also uses words like "looser", the sign of a true moron. The inability to spell a 5 letter word correctly shows me how dumb people can truly be.

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By DaveBG

posted Jul 22, 2007 - 11:40 AM

Yeah, there are also some 20 usernames created by aliens too... Everyone is against you Holly, everyone!!! :D

And BTW i have about 15 PS3 here, did i mention that i work in TechStore and have PS3 since launch?

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By bobthegoat2001

edited Jul 23, 2007 - 12:37 AM

So that's what caused the PS3 to suddenly sell? It wasn't because of the price drop.

Or did you mean about 15 unsold ones in your TechStore.

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By wincement

posted Jul 20, 2007 - 3:29 PM

Didn't Sony project 1 million units sold before the end of '06?

Oh well, I'm glad I don't have to pay attention to this stuff anymore. I just moved into a new apartment where my two roommates and I have all three systems plus an additional Wii.

Finally I'll get to see for myself what I like/dislike about each system.

We also have decent PCs and games to go with them. Nightly LAN parties... I don't know how I'm going to get any work done.

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By Hollywood__

edited Jul 22, 2007 - 6:51 PM

Wait a minute wincement,

You can't go giving your objective opinion based on experience with all three systems. That doesn't fit the way Dave does things.

You need to move to a place that has no gaming systems or an HD-DVD / BD player, or an HDTV for that matter.

Then come back and spout nonsense and one sided propaganda based on nothing but fanboyism. You are totally screwing up the way we do things here, at least for some people.

You are supposed to give your opinion of the PS3 from a continent that is hadn't even launched in yet, claiming to be an owner and it's the best thing since prostitution.

PLEASE THINK before you post valid opinions here. Sheesh.

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By danieltruong1105

edited Jul 18, 2007 - 9:05 PM

"...In addition to 1m consoles sold, Hotshots Golf 5 has 300,000 preorders,, so you can add another 1/3rd million to those numbers in a few weeks time, when the game comes out."

This is faulty logic! How does one knows that these 300,000 preorders are from people who don't have the PS3 yet? What about people who have the system already? So, 300,000 more unit sold in a few weeks is indeed a very long stretch of reasoning. Or maybe there is no reasoning at all!!!

As for the game list, that is pretty weak for a new console and I will say PS3 is more advance but I would have still bought the XB360 just for the games it has. I will admit I need it to last 5 more months to make $400 wothwhile!

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By Dsfargeg

posted Jul 21, 2007 - 11:16 AM

Indeed, no at least half-way sane person would preorder a game for a console he doesn't have, so with pretty much absolute certainty the preorders come from people who already have a PS3.

Besides that, I bet Hotshot Golf 5 will be just as shortlived as all the other overly hyped Sony ttiles - if you look at the MediaCreate charts, all of the oh-so-great titles dropped out of the charts the second week already.
Take for e.g. the super-duper Rpg FolkSong, which was supposed to be the end-all, be-all, but failed to even reach the Top10 and next week was gone already. Or take Nija Gaiden Sigma - short appearance, next week gone again. Same with My Summer Holidays, which didn't live to see a second week as well.
It will be no different with Hotshot Golf 5 - as soon as it drops from the charts the second week, all the Sony shills will instantly drop it and swarm to another title to hype it up as the best title ever.
Doing that must be really depressing... no wonder the Sony shills always sound so angry and frustrated when they post here.

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By siryak

edited Jul 19, 2007 - 7:36 PM

Eat your heart out Sony Cheerleaders!

http://www.gamesindustry...tent_page.php?aid=26902
Despite taking a USD 1.15 billion charge related to Xbox 360 warranty issues, Microsoft finished the quarter ending June 30 with revenue of USD 13.37 billion and net profit of 3.04 billion.

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By Benjamin Linus

posted Jul 20, 2007 - 5:37 AM

You know that's Microsoft as a whole? The games division is losing serious money.

The Xbox warranty costs total 1/3rd of the entire divisions profits..

Not good for the shareholders, methinks.

The Sony losses are also just for the PS3, is does not take into account money made in other Sony sectors, or even the profits from PSP/PS2 sales, which are very strong.

People bend figures to suit their arguments, and you have been fooled by this excat trick it seems.

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By bobthegoat2001

posted Jul 21, 2007 - 1:12 AM

"methinks."

That sounds like something Steve would say. Hello Steve.

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By Hocuspokus

posted Jul 20, 2007 - 5:55 PM

You ludicrous shilling reaches new depths of stupidity.

The cost of the entire XBox enterprise (everything since 2000) comes to around $5 billion.
Microsoft made that (net) in Q1 of this year alone
(nevermind the other 7 years of large profits that actually paid for those costs as they went along).

Your (so obviously) longed for 'share holder anger' is far more likely to be happening with your heros over at Sony.

It is Sony that have posted profits that are tiny when compared and who have done nothing but miss original sales target after sales target.......to the point where they have had to lay people off of work.

You're a deluded fool or a flat-out liar if you seriously think the Sony group as a whole are posting profits anything like Microsofts......or that the low level of Sony profits isn't something that has been happening for years.

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By dlab21

posted Jul 21, 2007 - 5:57 PM

http://www.informationwe...amp;cid=RSSfeed_TechWeb

where the hell do you get the idea of that the cost of the 'XBox enterprise' as you refer to it since 2000 has a total cost of 5 billion? the production/shipping costs alone must be higher than that for the xbox and 360s (costs money to ship 11 million console) then try advertising and oh paying developers for exclusive content on non exclusive games, and then you get into warrenty costs. the xbox division has posted a loss each year, get real.

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By siryak

edited Jul 20, 2007 - 9:19 AM

I have seen many news articles stating that the loss of the POS3 is sucking up any profit that any of the other divisions have made. A company starts frowning whenever 1 division is eating up all their profits. Something drastic better happen with the POS3 or you can kiss it goodbye.

Also with the 360s excellent attach rate(which is better than the POS3 and Wii combined) it will not take long for them to make those losses back. Then add on the savings of switching to the 65nm chip.

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By SGD

edited Jul 20, 2007 - 9:56 AM

I just added 4 new games to my 360 library and still have none for the PS3, and none for the Wii just the 4 I've had for a long time. The choices are on the 360 are second to none. With MS fixing the problems the future is bright for the 360.

I take that back I did get Stardust and Q-bert for the PS3.

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By siryak

posted Jul 20, 2007 - 2:17 PM

Not to mention the great games that are coming out this fall. I am probably literally going to end up almost doubling my game library.

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By SGD

posted Jul 20, 2007 - 7:22 PM

This fall will be very bad for the wallet.

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By siryak

posted Jul 20, 2007 - 10:50 PM

Same here.

These are my absolute must haves. I know I am missing something, but this is what I got off the top of my head.
Ace Combat 6
Halo 3
Call of Duty 4
Need for Speed: Pro Street

Here are the ones that I am going to keep an eye on.(At the least they will get a rent) I will likely by quite a few off that list.
Grand Theft Auto IV
Bioshock
Mass Efect
Timeshift
Fracture
Assasin's Creed
Medal of Honor: Airborne
Mercenaries 2
Burnout: Paradise

Again I know I am missing something, but that is all I could think of off the top of my head. I would like to buy em all, but that is like $750-800 worth of games lol.

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By Hollywood__

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 9:26 PM

And how much did Sony lose so far with BD and the PS3?

3 billion.

Coincidence? I think BetaNews planned this whole thing.

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By AaronDobbins

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 1:54 PM

I thought BetaNews only published articles bashing Sony and the PS3.

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By xyzcb1

edited Jul 19, 2007 - 11:00 AM

How about start pushing up some games? Don't worry about the exclusives, just put out some freaking games. Why is PS3 has anything to do with Blu-Ray when it's a game console? Sure, it plays Blu-Ray, but it's a freaking game console, so start pushing the games out the door.

Do you think WII sell because it's a cheap system? Because there are a lot of fun games.

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By mshulman

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 12:51 PM

I agree. I own a PS3, but only own Qbert of all the games - It was an old favorite of mine :)

I have 2 blu-ray movies and have updated my netflix queue for blu-ray. That's the reason I got it, but if there were any good games, I'd get them.

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By Steve Austin

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 4:38 PM

Download SuperstartdustHD. It's 1080p, $8, and is fantastic.

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By SGD

edited Jul 19, 2007 - 8:32 PM

Wow a $500 game machine to play an $8 game now that is a deal.

I will say it is good.

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By Hollywood__

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 9:34 PM

That's a good one. Don't forget about Q-Bert.

I could have downloaded MAME and played the actual authentic Q-Bert arcade game for free but I opted for a $600 machine to play a bad port instead.

I will however buy my first PS3 game when Wip3outHD is released.

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By Benjamin Linus

edited Jul 20, 2007 - 5:38 AM

Sure carry on pretending QBert is the only game on the system. It makes you look a total jerk.

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By bobthegoat2001

posted Jul 21, 2007 - 1:17 AM

Ok, QBert and SuperstartdustHD. Are you happy now?

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By siryak

posted Jul 20, 2007 - 9:37 AM

LOL! Did he hit a raw nerve? I guess you could have listed all of those "wonderful" games the POS3 has out to counter. Oh wait...

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By siryak

edited Jul 20, 2007 - 10:03 AM

"Double Post"

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By Hollywood__

edited Jul 20, 2007 - 12:55 AM

I see Mr. Sony shill is still spending every waking hour worrying about Blu-Ray and the PS3.

I would love to know what some of the people that call me a "looser" (must be a member of MENSA) do for a living.

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By fernz33

edited Jul 19, 2007 - 9:43 PM

"...he always dodges anything that could make him appear even more idiotic than he already has"

Unlike you that takes every opportunity to appear more idiotic. You are as idiotic and pathetic as they come here.

"What a complete waste of life."

Dude, how about your life? What a complete looser you are! I don't mind people here feeling passionate about their systems. I kind of get it, but you my friend... are the worst. Seriously man, go outside. Get a girl. Get laid... something!!

Oh.. and we get it, there is somebody on here that posts multiple times using different names. Hooray for you! Now here's a cookie.

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By lanky

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 11:28 PM

I agree 100% and then some.

I rarely write but that guy is a complete raving lunatic that rants more then any known thing in the universe.

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By plague201

edited Jul 19, 2007 - 4:03 PM

YEY

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By SGD

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 10:10 AM

Then there are the ones that attack for no just reason.

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By plague201

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 9:51 AM

It appears Stevy missed this the first time through that he didnt respond to it :-D. Here it is again.

http://www.vgchartz.com/?w=9m

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By Steve Austin

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 4:40 PM

Not sure what we are supposed to be looking at? Everyone knows these numbers are predictions based on past sales data.

IT'S NOT ACTUAL SALE DATA...

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By plague201

posted Jul 20, 2007 - 8:03 PM

Hmm, the article is about Sony selling a million in Japan. Does the site not show this? Must I show you how to read a chart?

"Everyone knows these numbers are predictions based on past sales data."

I don't know that, prove it to me. It looks accurate to me.

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By bobthegoat2001

posted Jul 20, 2007 - 1:11 AM

Notice how Steve hasn't respond to any of your posts?

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By DotNet_Coder

posted Jul 20, 2007 - 6:02 PM

Yeah, I know... I'm pouting over here, trust me. Feelings bruised and all that... lol

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By DotNet_Coder

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 10:28 PM

Ok Steve... this is from the site that YOU have quoted in the past:

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php

Let me guess, projected sale data there?

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By Alex Stevens

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 8:55 PM

I also recall you and some other Sony fans using that very same site to praise the PS3 in the past. Now suddenly it's not reliable? Did you think no one would remember?

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By siryak

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 7:39 PM

LMAO!!! I fought with you endlessly about the fact that it is not an accurate source. You wouldn't have any of it. Now that their numbers do not show your beloved POS3 in a favorable light it is suddenly become just predictions? Typical Sony fanboy.

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By Benjamin Linus

posted Jul 20, 2007 - 5:40 AM

Hmm, are all 3 of you the same person?

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By bobthegoat2001

posted Jul 21, 2007 - 1:18 AM

Hello Steve.

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By siryak

posted Jul 20, 2007 - 2:19 PM

Lol sorry to burst your bubble, but I have better things to do than go around creating accounts.

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By DotNet_Coder

edited Jul 20, 2007 - 5:59 PM

Agreed... I have enough personalities of my own... don't need to have multiple ones online too (no offense siryak... lol)

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By Niro

edited Jul 19, 2007 - 9:18 AM

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By SGD

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 9:10 AM

This is huge news for Blu-ray if no one has beat me to it. This is one of the big ones that I have been waiting for.

http://bluray.highdefdig...u-ray_this_November/785

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By mshulman

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 12:45 PM

Probably not as huge as you might think. While adults will probably pick up the title, its main audience is kids. Kids will want to be able to watch in the car, on vacation.. anywhere they have a DVD player.

Families will likely buy it on DVD. The rest of us might get it on Blu-ray. Its hardly going to convince anyone to go out and buy a player though.

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By DotNet_Coder

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 10:31 PM

Absolutely, this is probably the largest boon to HD and BR sales. Until there is a portable unit out, sales of DVDs will outpace HD and BR 10 to 1.

I know that as a parent, I am not going to buy a $30+ movie that my kids can only watch on my HDTV. If they can't take it in their rooms, or in the family room, forget it. Funny thing is, I'm not alone in that at all. Hell, my kids get to pick movies at Gamestop from the $9.99 bin (if they're lucky ;-) )

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By siryak

posted Jul 20, 2007 - 2:20 PM

More like 50-100 to 1.

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By Niro

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 9:18 AM

LOL...yes this should boost blu-ray sales by at least 100x!!

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By plague201

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 9:49 AM

HEhe, 300 is a must have, but thats on HD-DVD too :'(

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By SGD

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 10:10 AM

Oh yeah I already have that one preordered. They also announced Knocked for HD. That is a great show and I think it is only on HD-DVD.

I still do prefer HD over blo-ray.

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By Ray Dorset

edited Jul 19, 2007 - 7:13 AM

Shape of things to come?

http://www.computerandvi...m/article.php?id=168444

The 60GB unit is at a sweet spot, it's only $20 more than an Elite, it's got Blu-Ray, Wifi and Play and charge kit (all extra $$$ on 360). You can bet Sony will replace the $499 60GB with a $499 80GB when supplies are run down.

The only fly in the ointment, would be if Microsoft dropped the prices of the 360, but they have said that is not going to happen

http://www.boston.com/bu...price_drop_for_xbox_360/

(if they did, then can we call them "Liars" like people here are calling Sony for the same thing?)

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By siryak

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 7:48 PM

MS has stated there will be a price drop later this year. Also that article only says no price drop in "Japan." Doesn't say anything about anywhere else.

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By bobthegoat2001

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 3:04 PM

"The 60GB unit is at a sweet spot, it's only $20 more than an Elite"

Well not for everyone, still. Who cares about Blu-Ray or Wifi (eithernet is faster anyway)when there aren't to many exclusives games to play on it. I think $500 is still too much to pay when I can already play the same games on the 360.

"The only fly in the ointment, would be if Microsoft dropped the prices of the 360, but they have said that is not going to happen"

Why would they need to? It's already selling better than the PS3.

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By Steve Austin

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 4:42 PM

Sure it is...

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-52919.aspx
DS 97,404
Wii 76,394
PSP 50,890
PS2 43,406
PS3 41,005
X360 35,084
GBA 14,451
GC 1,864
Xbox 11

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By bobthegoat2001

posted Jul 21, 2007 - 1:22 AM

Yep.

http://www.vgchartz.com/?w=9m

Thank you come again.

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By DotNet_Coder

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 10:34 PM

Hey Steve, guess where that post got their data? Oh yeah, from the "not reliable" vgcharts.com... But yet here, it's fact...

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By siryak

edited Jul 22, 2007 - 4:55 PM

LMAO! Ok where do I start. That is sales for 1 week! Also the PS3 sales right now are only boosted because of them scaring people into buying one because they are afraid they might not get a price reduction if they don't. Then those sales are also barely above the 360 at all even with the temporary boost in sales.

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By SGD

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 9:17 AM

I don't think that most casual gamers care to much about a huge hard drive, they just want to play games. If you wanted a bigger drive you could always add the 120 later if you really wanted to.

I can see MS dropping the price before to long.

Have to love competition.

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By Niro

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 8:56 AM

Except...Sony isn't making any more 60GB versions...they just have plenty of supply...mainly because nobody bought them!

Also...from what I understand, people don't buy consoles because they have wifi and play and charge kits or it can play movies...they buy them for the games. Unfortunately for the PS3 (and you, apparently since you seem to be married to it) is that it has NO good games out, and the future looks bleak at best.

I got a question for you Ray..since you have such a crush on this thing, why don't you go buy one and play all the games you claim are great on it, and stop wasting time here?

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By Dsfargeg

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 10:13 AM

There's no real price cut, it's just to get rid of the remaining 60GB ones so they can push their 80GB one which costs $100 more for tiny 20GB added and which is crippled by the removal of the Emotion Engine.
It's only for the US, too, Europe just gets two crappy games put in without any price cut at all.

I got a question for you Ray..since you have such a crush on this thing, why don't you go buy one and play all the games you claim are great on it, and stop wasting time here?

Because chavs don't have enough money for a PS3, so they're stuck with worshipping it from afar.

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By Benjamin Linus

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 11:25 AM

Well as a European PS3 owner, I can say your speaking out your a** on the backwards compatability front. Mine is near perfect. 100% of my games work, a couple have small glitches. most of these games are big hitters, GT4, GTA series, MGS series etc.

As for the $100 price rise, Sony have never said it will rise, they have said nothing, aside from stocks of the 60GB units are being run down. The XBots have raised the suggestion that it when they are gone, the price will go back up to $599. Most analysts agree, that once the 60GB units go, there will be a basic 80GB at $499 to replace it.

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By SGD

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 12:43 PM

And you never talk out of yours! You usually do just that.

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By TomeOne

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 8:42 AM

Didn't Sony say the 100 dollar price drop was temporary?

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By Benjamin Linus

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 11:26 AM

No, they have never said that. They have said that the 60GB units are being run down, and IMPLIED that something will replace them. IN all likelyhood, 80GB basic units (with no games) and $499.

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By Alex Stevens

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 8:56 PM

Wrong, the lower price is only for the models they are clearing out. After that it's gone.

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By AaronDobbins

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 1:57 PM

Where was the implication something will replace them? I believe all I have read said they were selling a 499 model until the 60GB units were depleted entirely. I don't remember hearing anytning about them continuing to have two price points after that.

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By SGD

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 9:44 AM

I believe they did for the US not sure about other regions. Lately I am very cautious what they say.

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By Benjamin Linus

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 11:27 AM

Don't worry, Microsoft have said there will be no price drop on the 360.

Lets all wait and then start calling them liars, when it happens.

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By mshulman

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 12:47 PM

Noone is going to announce a price drop before it happens. Why would someone buy a console today if they knew it would drop $100 in a month?

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By kashin

edited Jul 19, 2007 - 3:04 AM

Okay, so you Sony fanboys please explain to me how this works. Every month the Xbox 360 and the Wii both outsell the PS3. The Xbox 360 already has a huge lead over the PS3, yet it still outsells it every month even if it's by a small margin. The Wii is outselling the PS3 by a land slide. So, explain to me how the PS3 is catching up? The gap between the PS3 and the other two consoles is getting wider each month. I'm talking GLOBAL sales here, just in case you feel the urge to quote some random country where the PS3 happens to be doing okay. Not that there is many of those.

I know Steve or one of the other idiots will bring a bunch of random links to random meaningless sites, to show how amazingly well the PS3 is selling. Yes, they must've got a sales boost the last week or so, because of their fake price drop. But let's be honest here, it's been shown every month for the past 3 or 4 months that the Wii is selling the most consoles by far and even the 7 year old PS2 is outselling the PS3. How is it that more people still want the cheap 7 year old technology over this amazing new PS3?

I think I'll start following in the footsteps of the Sony zealots around here and start posting awesome links of my own! Here's one now. Enjoy the hilarity!

http://www.theinquirer.n...ault.aspx?article=41088

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By Meth

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 11:31 AM

I own a PS3, I picked one up at Circuit City last weekend because of the price cut, 5 Blu-Ray movies, and Circuit City was throwing in a second Wireless controller for free. I managed to get the last unit at my Circuit City so they seem to be selling pretty well now.

Do I think the PS3 will beat the XBox360 or Wii in overall sales? Maybe in YEARS but certainly not anytime soon, but who really cares. A lot of people bought the original Xboxes. The orginal Xbox was OWNED by the PS2 in overall sales. Does that make eveyone who bought an Xbox stupid? No. There is room in the market for everyone, no one is going to go out of business (i.e. pull a Sega) as a result of this generation. Nintendo and Microsoft NEEDED to do well this generation or they probably would have left the market. I really don't see Sony abandoning the entire PS brand just because they aren't #1 in this generation. I have little doubt that the PS3 will turn an overall profit over it's entire production life and while Nintendo and MS might end up making far more that will just make Sony compete all the harder on the PS4 when the time comes.

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By kashin

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 3:40 PM

Only if it were that simple.

"A lot of people bought the original Xboxes. The orginal Xbox was OWNED by the PS2 in overall sales. Does that make eveyone who bought an Xbox stupid? No."

Who called anyone stupid? I certainly didn't. I was simply pointing out the fact that all the Sony fanboys are delusional, because they think the PS3 is doing better than the other consoles. This is obviously not the case.

"There is room in the market for everyone, no one is going to go out of business (i.e. pull a Sega) as a result of this generation. Nintendo and Microsoft NEEDED to do well this generation or they probably would have left the market."

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Yes, Nintendo may have exited the console market if they didn't do well this generation. Microsoft, not a chance. Microsoft is a company who can afford to lose billions and it still won't hurt the company. Sony on the other hand is not in such a position. They're a much smaller company compared to Microsoft and posting a $3 billion dollar loss on the PS3 has shareholders worried. This is on top of all the other losses and PR Sony has been receiving lately. The rootkit fiasco and exploding batteries are still fresh in everyone's memory.

I'm sure the Sony cheerleaders will be quick to point out that Sony is doing well in other areas, such as LCD television. But those profits are being swallowed up by the gigantic losses from the PS3.

Also, if you're waiting for the PS4, don't hold your breath. Sony said they expect the PS3's life cycle to be at least 10 years, which is ridiculous of course. It's not even a year old and the hardware is already obsolete. This is how it goes in the console world.

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By Meth

posted Jul 20, 2007 - 10:53 AM

I don't know what you are classifying as a "Sony fanboy". If Sony fanboys are only the delusional pro-Sony no matter what nuts then it's kind of redundant point out that people who you have specifically limited to those who are delusional... are in fact delusional. It's kind of like saying if we limit all games to RPG's then all games are RPGs.

If however you consider anyone who would willingly purchase a PS3 over a Xbox360 to be a Sony fanboy (and this is what I was assuming you meant in my first post) then I am a Sony fanboy by that definition because I bought a PS3 and have no intention of picking up an Xbox360. If I am Sony Fanboy though then your claim that "all the Sony fanboys are delusional, because they think the PS3 is doing better then the other consoles." is obviously not the case because as a Sony Fanboy, I do not think they are doing better. That was the point of my original post only I tried (unsuccessfully apparently) to convey the point in far less words.

I'm not convinced that MS would have stuck around if the Xbox360 had failed. Sure they are a much bigger company but the Xbox division just drags down the rest of the company. MS makes their money on OS and Office software primarily and there's only so long they would have stuck to a failing project. On the other hand the Playstation related parts of Sony are a MUCH bigger part of Sony's bottom line then Xbox will ever be at MS and so I don't see Sony exiting the market after just one console generation where it didn't take #1. It's doesn't really matter though because neither of us can prove either way what WOULD have happened had the Xbox360 failed because it didn't. It's doing quite well and so MS will certainly stay in the market for the foreseeable future now.

And I'm not WAITING for the PS4. I don't know where you got that from I already said I bought a PS3 and I happen to be very happy with it. As for the 10 years thing I don't know what is so difficult for you people to understand but when Sony says that they are referring to how long the console will be produced, NOT how long it will be before the next one comes out. Guess how long the PS1 was produced... 11 years... guess how long the PS2 has been produced... 7 years now and they JUST released a new hardware revision. It stands to reason that the PS2 will hit around 10 years also and so it's reasonable to assume the PS3 will likewise be manufactured for 10 years. That doesn't mean the PS4 won't come out several years before then just as the PS1 was still being made for years after the PS2 launch and the PS2 will still be made for years after the PS3 launch.

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By Steve Austin

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 3:32 AM

What's so funny about that? It's highly likely that the starter pack will be complemented by something with a bigger HDD.

Ultimately, who cares, the PS3 allows you to fit whatever HDD you want. The handbook shows you have to do it, and it does not void your warranty. A 160GB 2.5in SATA drive is $80.

I can think of one competing console, where they charge $120 for a 20GB HDD!!, and lock it down and make it proprietary.

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By kashin

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 3:43 PM

"I can think of one competing console, where they charge $120 for a 20GB HDD!!, and lock it down and make it proprietary."

Yes, and I can think of a console where they force their DRM infested HD format on you and it's a huge chunk of the console's price. Talk about choices.

I love how you picked one single sentence out of my comment and replied, completely ignoring the bigger part about the PS3 being out sold by every other console month after month. You're so funny. :)

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By DotNet_Coder

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 10:43 PM

A. That link was hilarious... It really goes to show what Sony thinks of the various geographic and demographic audiences they have. Simply amazing --> "You live in Europe sooooo, we're just gonna charge you the full price that those yanks over in the US can get cheaper. Deal with it"...

B. Steve doesn't have time to reply to entire posts; there are so many posts that he is completely wrong in that he has to reply to first just to defend his precious Sony.

I dare say that I would be 100% fair to both the MSFT and Sony camps, but messing with Steve just has way too much enjoyment attached to it.

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By mshulman

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 12:50 PM

And they have no real choice but to do that. You can complain about it all you want, but that is why 360 has TV show and movie downloads and PS3 does not.

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By slinkys_delsol

posted Jul 18, 2007 - 10:41 PM

Simply AMAZING what a $100 difference can do!

Granted, most will still spend that $100 on a game and some accessories, but ultimately that is what drives the console and where the money is made, in the Accessories and the Software (Games).

I remember working a retail store when the PS2 came out. We all remember it retailed for $200 and even that we thought was high. Well, my Employee price was $212 (No Typo, it was MORE), but the games that retailed for $50... Employee price on them was $9!

So weather you are in the market for a PS3 or not, I would say take advantage that it is now $499 or also look at it as the cheapest BLU-RAY Player on the Market.

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By cranbers

posted Jul 18, 2007 - 10:19 PM

gall damn the wii is almost at total world sales figures as the xbox 360 and that had a year headstart. I bet the wii would sell more if you could find them that is, I will buy one once I can actually find one. I can now find a ps3 and 360 on store shelves now with no desire to buy it.

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By darkzero63

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 12:38 AM

You can buy a wii if you are willing to pay a high premium for one- like 521 for a bundle last time I checked...

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By pitdingo

edited Jul 19, 2007 - 9:15 AM

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By Ryusennin

posted Jul 18, 2007 - 9:36 PM

1 million units. That's 1% (yep, one percent) of the PS2 market.

Good job Sonny.

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By Steve Austin

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 3:23 AM

Yep, and the PS2 has been out 7 years.
So your point is?

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By DotNet_Coder

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 10:45 PM

The point is that the PS2 STILL outsells the PS3 daily, weekly, and monthly.

If the PS3 is so superior, how is it outsold STILL by a 7 year old system?

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By siryak

posted Jul 20, 2007 - 12:46 AM

Basically the PS2 is solid proof that price is the absolute main factor. The average consumer does not know, nor do they care what "almighty" power the PS3 has.

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By Niro

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 9:11 AM

the ps3 has been out for 6 months right? So...assuming PS3 sales don't fall (which they most likely continue to do as they have been)...in another 6 months it would be 2%, in 7 years...the PS3 would have sold 14% of what the PS2 sold...success!!

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By Paul Skinner

posted Jul 18, 2007 - 6:09 PM

The Xbox 360 sales figures in Japan make me giggle.

Giggle at the Japanese mainly for their allegiance to their country's products.

They really are atrocious sales figures considering it's been out a year longer (roughly).

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By Steve Austin

edited Jul 18, 2007 - 6:51 PM

I love how Betanews try to put a negative spin on even positive Sony news.

In addition to 1m consoles sold, Hotshots Golf 5 has 300,000 preorders, so you can add another 1/3rd million to those numbers in a few weeks time, when the game comes out.

http://ps3.qj.net/Japane...-Golf-5/pg/49/aid/95099

Things are ramping up quickly in Japan it seems. It took them a while to warm to the PS3. The game lineup is quickly convincing people... Many of these are ONLY available on Playstation..

- Lair (PS3 Exclusive)
- Heavenly Sword (PS3 Exclusive)
- Unreal Tournament (PS3 Exclusive until May 2008)
- Haze (PS3 Exclusive)
- Killzone 2 (PS3 Exclusive)
- Final Fantasy XII (PS3 Exclusive)
- Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3 Exclusive)
- Little Big Planet (PS3 Exclusive)
- Uncharted Drake's Fortune (PS3 Exclusive)
- PES 7
- GTA 4
- Ratchet and Clank : Tools Of Destruction (PS3 Exclusive)
- Stranglehold
- GT5 : Prologue (PS3 Exclusive)
- Warhawk (PS3 Exclusive)
- Folklore (PS3 Exclusive)
- Call of Duty 4
- Rock Band
- Devil May Cry 4
- Assassin's creed (PS3 Exclusive until mid 2008)

I'm sure there are more, these are just the big hitters in the next 6-10 months.

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By Niro

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 9:16 AM

"In addition to 1m consoles sold, Hotshots Golf 5 has 300,000 preorders, so you can add another 1/3rd million to those numbers in a few weeks time, when the game comes out."

Great logic you got going there Steve! Halo 3 has 2 million preorders...so add 2 million xbox 360 consoles to the current market share and widen the gap!

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By SGD

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 8:42 AM

I would be very surprised if even 5% of those preorders are from people that don't already have a PS3.

That is like saying that the 360 is going to sell 2 million more units because that is how many are preordered Halo3. Not likely.

Will it help sales, yes but the numbers stated.

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By ukcn001XYZ

posted Jul 18, 2007 - 10:25 PM

Can't wait for MGS4.
http://www.youtube.com/w...mode=related&search=

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By bobthegoat2001

posted Jul 23, 2007 - 12:45 AM

Splinter Cell is better.

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By SGD

posted Jul 18, 2007 - 10:07 PM

Wow you make it sound like the PS3 is the only one that has exclusives guess what, it's not. You would think that Hos Shots golf is the best game teh system has to offer the way you hype it up. I hope not since that is a very gay golf game.

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By Steve Austin

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 3:28 AM

Sad fuks like you are always implying that PS3 has lost all it's exclusives.

THe reality, is that 360 has gained some previous PS exclusives. PS3 has moved on, PS3 has NEW exclusives, plus the old ones on multi-plat.

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By DotNet_Coder

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 10:54 PM

*still laughing*

Lost some previous PS exclusives?! Well WTH do you think that happened there?! The PS3 has been such a flop so far game-wise (it's lackluster launch lineup didn't help much either). Most of the companies that were producing these exclusive titles had to cut bait and return to where the money was guaranteed. Attach rates mean the world to a game studio and if you ain't got 'em, you ain't got 'em. Guess what? Sony ain't got them with the PS3... Why do you think there are still game studios producing PS2 titles!?

PS3 has moved on... uhhh, yeah, there really is no other way to move, is there? What are they supposed to do, try and resurrect some old PS1 and PS2 games and call them exclusives?

PS3 has new exclusives... yeah, at double the cost to the dev houses and tons of fees that Sony had to pay to even get some of these developers to produce the "exclusive" games. Add to that the nightmare that Sony calls a SDK (of which is part of my nightmare right now) and you quickly start to see why these companies turned tail from Sony and all their legal BS and nearly impossible to develop for SDK.

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By siryak

posted Jul 20, 2007 - 12:49 AM

The 360 has 10x better exclusives than the POS3 right now. The only thing they have that looks good is Killzone, and that is a ways away and "could" still turn out to be a flop.

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By bobthegoat2001

posted Jul 19, 2007 - 3:27 PM

But the PS3 does have the least amount of exclusives