Liars...
Of cause outsells!
Because many-many peoples already have XBOX360. They just don't need a THIRD! Why "3rd"? First - unmodified to play on XBOX Live, secord - hacked to play downloaded games. :)

Some people will buy a PS3 just to fill empty place of "third" console (if they don't have a Wii). :)

Liars...
Of cause outsells!
Because many-many peoples already have XBOX360. They just don't need a THIRD! Why "3rd"? First - unmodified to play on XBOX Live, secord - hacked to play downloaded games. :)

Some people will buy a PS3 just to fill empty place of "third" console (if they don't have a Wii). :)

I wouldn't sheer away from the article just because the title makes it sound like this was a Sony-produced statistic. From the article itself it seems that Sony is merely bragging about how great the PS3 is doing according to "European sales figures" (it would be nice to see some sources in the article every now and then, to be honest).

They wont supply outside sources numbers as they will show that although there may be some increase there is no ground to be gained on world wide numbers. North American numbers are still low.

good news for PS3 owners... http://kotaku.com/500813...gta-ivs-ps3-online-play

there is a patch for online play.

Evidently online problems still occuring if the playstation forums are to believed.
Patch fixed some gamespy issues but not others.
People will have to wait a bit longer

Perhaps you could use that patch dingo ....... if you ever get a PS3 with GTA4.

Are you using a hard wired ethernet on a console that has wireless built in? You should have read the box or done your homework before you post.

The Wii must be in the closet collecting dust.

well of course the ps3 is out sellin the xbox in europe its a much much much better peice of hardware we all know this, and with us europeans been totaly unbiased we can make a conscious and informed decision, i do own both consoles and i have to say that as a machine the ps3 is better in everyway, bar slightly better online play that you have to pay for anyway and a few games that dont realy interest me i cant see any reason someone wud buy a xbox 360 over a ps3

'and with us europeans been totaly unbiased we can make a conscious and informed decision'

had to lol at that :)
Took me two reads to see you were being sarcastic

The post Mashy made looks like a translation from Japanese. Probably from sony hq as they troll forms for the word Sony + PS3 (POS3)

hey danno im just tellin it as it is, americans are gunna be bias its only natural , i wud be if it was a british product but the facts are the ps3 is the better hardware you all have to admit that surely !!!!!

As a few sensible people have noted the phrase "Sony says......" is probably all the warning anyone needs here.

XBox 360 sales have skyrocketed after the recent price cut.

If You're really interested I'd wait for an independent report.

I wouldn't trust Sony to ever tell the unvarnished truth about themselves.

ok Hollywood__

Don't be such a f*cking moron.

Haven't you got some children to be bothering ranting about your Wii at the local game store?

Unless you count blu-ray being the broader reason to own a P$3, then I don't think the P$3 has a broader appeal. The people who buy P$3 are P$ fanboys like pitdungo, and they are a lot of person in Europe. More importantly, the same argument that japanese don't buy american stuffs work with Europeans. They don't buy american stuffs (especially the axis countries of WWII) except in UK.

I have to disagree reptile. I have freind who buys insanely expensive items like DynAudio Evidence Temptation speakers, $1000 interconnects etc....

He has the most expensive stand alone BD player money can buy and admitted the PS3 outperforms it with the latest firmware update.

If you are ever going to invest in BD, the PS3 is the best choice. Who knew that DaveBG would be right about anything.

At the time he was ranting, the PS3 still had problems and no dts-HD or MA, now it does, plus BD-J and extremely good black levels.

They actually got thier s*** together and I can admit I was (eventually) wrong. I still think the 360 is a better and well thought out gaming console. I don't have a problem plagued first gen however, I have an Elite that I bought at Halo 3 launch.

My older non HDMI 360 is collecting dust in my back room where old electronics go to retire. Luckily, I got an overbuilt, overpriced 80GB that cost Sony $309 more to build than I paid for it.

Thats the point and probably why anytime you see a post like this from sony you call BS right away. The fact of the matter is I am a gammer played on both consoles and MS got it 100% right. From desktop to actual ingame menus its user friendly. IF only they would realize, but then take it in baby steps eh.. i guess they finally gave into rumble tech and paid MS off for this and maybe we will speak this in with an update in the future.

Even the PS3's menu seems cold and unfreindly. MS did get it right. Sony could easily change the UI but they wanted it to mimic the PSP.

Whenever you see a headline that starts with "Sony says" you have to take the information within with a grain of salt. Sony hasn't exactly won any truth telling contest in recent years. I could go down a long list of "Sony says" things just from the past 5 years that were complete BS, but I don't think anyone has enough time to read it all.

If Sony says they sold 12 million PS3s, chances are they haven't even broken the 10 million mark yet. Either way, they have no chance of catching up to the Wii or even the Xbox 360. The 360 is getting close to 20 million units now, so you can "tout" your regional sales figures (Sony really likes to compare themselves to Microsoft on home turf Japan especially) all you want, it doesn't mean anything.

Sony got a little too used to being the leader in the video game industry and now they're BAAAAAWing about being a distant turd, erm, third behind Nintendo and Microsoft. Expect more of these announcements every few months where Sony pretends they're winning the console war. It's like the saying goes, if you can't be successful at least try to fake it.

"It's like the saying goes, if you can't be successful at least try to fake it"

Like pindingo?

I'm sure Kazuhiro "Kaz" Hirai is actually mixing up PS3 and BD (like if it was one single big market). He too must be a little confused by his own nonsense strategy. Who wouldn't?

SOny says alot of things. THe POS3 i have is sitting collecting dust while i Play GTA4 on my xbox. Maybe in the fall if i can tear myself away from Gears i may look at killzone but wouldn't count on it. Gain as much ground as you need in the console war your loosing out because of the games. The blo ray player helped you sell them. w/o this you probably would have 1/3rd of the sales.

Same here...I must say the PS3 is an absolute pro at collecting dust. It and my subwoofer(glass top) are the biggest dust collectors in the house. It looks like a printer shaped sand dune!

I rarely turned mine on for over a year and bought exactly 0 games. It came with Blades of Glory on BD. Then Sony recenty released the firmware update that added all the 2.0 features to the BD player and dramtically enhanced the black levels out of the HDMI (v2.3?).

It is now the best looking HD player and SD upscaler in my home. The HD-A2 walked all over the PS3 in black levels for a while. I can plainly see the difference, especially on my projector.

The PS3 not all bad you know, mine is a movie player first, game console second. I still use mine to play PS2 games and an occasional PS game.

If you get the chance to see Cars on BD with the latest firmware, you will be amazed. The in-movie car finder game actually works too.

Just my .02

Ok Dave. ;)

What can I say? I actually like the POS3 now (as a movie player). I did own one before I bought a 360 or the the Wii.

Sure I rent the occasional movie. It came with Spider Man 3 and that failed to ohh and awe me. I also have an HD Player and find richer colours in 300 or better yet Transformers. I find on my DLP that the HD player still does a better job at displaying the picture than the POS3. Don't get me wrong Sony got a couple things right with this console but I still perfer my Xbox for playability and game content.

what about in the US? that is where it counts for me.

The PS3 has been outselling the M$ 360 for a while now in the USA.

http://www.vgchartz.com/

And i just bought one so that is a +1 for the PS3

"The PS3 has been outselling the M$ 360 for a while now in the USA."

In your wet Sony dreams. Just because you link to some random website that happens to support the BS you spout, it doesn't automatically make it the truth. The PS3 is getting slaughtered in the USA and everyone knows it.

"And i just bought one so that is a +1 for the PS3"

No you didn't. We already established you lied about that pitdingo.

vgchartz = phishing site designated by Google

"We" established nothing except you are a childish troll. That HALO guy even told you so.

Just about ready to get into some GTA 4 on my new PS3. Well, it is almost a week old now so i guess i can stop calling it new.

"...some random website..." that BetaNews used as a reference. Love how the M$ fanbois are in denial. pathetic.

Unlike you, I actually own what I say I do.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/4100/hw1ka5.jpg

Go ahead, say it's fake so I can post another pic with a remote that cost more than your car.

As retarded as DaveBG was, as least he owned a PS3. Except he bought his in June 2007 but claimed he had one since launch the whole time.

Anyone can copy pictures off of Avsforums and say they are theirs. I can post a picture of a painting worth more than you or I will make in a lifetime. What does it prove?

Kinda like all those Internet tough guys on XBox live threating to beat you up.

You fail again. You just keep digging yourself a bigger hole....

Which would you like to see? A MAME controller that cost more than your car or a whole house home automation remote that does? I can't see you owning anything that is currenty worth more than 3000-4000 dollars.

You pick and I'll post.

I'll make sure that glass case with three consoles I don't own is in the shot.

What happened to the holy words of 360 sales crawling that you so strongly believed enough to share with the world?
That site you link tells a different story.
And yep we established quite strongly either you don’t own a PS3 or you were too stupid to even know what features your model had.
Both are quite believable. You are nothing but a troll who has it in for everything microsoft. Blind pathetic troll, but then again everyone else here knows that.

P.S Do you get a dollar every time you use $ ?

You've been a P$3 supporter for all this time and you've only JUST bought one? No wonder your arguments are as worthless and idiotic as sony defense force.

hey pitdingo2.. whats your PS3-PSN ID maybe we can play some games together and talk.

PSN: JeffreyBT69
360: JeffreyBT69

I'll give you a day before I assume you are a liar.

Actually, the guy who owns Sony Defense Force owns Microsoft Defense Force and 1up.

He's not stupid, the sites are extremey biased on purpose to create controversy and ultimately popup ad click throughs.

Dingo has been getting his a** kicked trying to convince everyone here the Wii is the best console money can buy. He needed a new reason to bash the "M$" 360, so why not pretend to own a PS3 to piss off the 360 fans.

The problem was he didn't know the 40GB he claimed to buy had wireless built in (and neither did I). His story began to fall apart when he claimed to have bought a 360, then sold it because he was afraid green smoke would burn his house down.

Now he's grasping at straws and posting things like "Time to get back to GTA4 on my brand new PS3" blah blah blah. It's very entertaining.

He was pretty quick to call me an AVS forum picture-stealer until I game him a choice of what he could see next.

I'll even throw in three DS's, two iPods, and a collection of unused touch screen remotes.

How about five notebooks I don't use anymore? You name it dingo. Anything or everything?

LOL./ reply to your own posts often? how many usernames are you up to now?

I must say the dingo has been making you look really stupid these past few days. As others have said, you need to give it up and move on. Who cares what he owns or you say you own for that matter.

I only have GTA4 right now. And i got rid of my M$ 360 a while ago.

Do you have GTA4 on the PS3?

exactly. Funny thing is, he actually thinks people care what he says...like he is trying to impress somebody.

Just add him as a friend? This is your golden chance to prove us wrong. In fact why dont you add holly as a friend as well?

I strongly recommend you re-read those past few days. Didnt see you in there cheering for pit giving him the backup he needed when he got caught out?

And you think people care about what you say? Trolling around M$ this and M$ that?
You seem to think its a game of dodgeball because when things get hot you start dodging.

dodge dodge

I only care what you say Hollywood__. I want to be just like you.

No, I own GTA4 for the 360

but I can still add and talk to you though the PS3-PSN whats your id

also if you say you "sold the 360" the account will still be there.. whats your 360 id as well.

Obviously you do dingo.

Hey "fatty",

Is this you first post? I have never seen that name here before. What a miracle. Some new guy named "fatty" is sticking up for someone he doesn't even know and hasn't posted in a any of the stories we are referring to over the last few days.

Nice try though.

Am I supposed to slip and reveal that all this time I have been hollywood using another alias?
Or perhaps hollywood IS my other alias?
I got better things to do that login and logout all the time to switch usernames.
At least you admit you dont want to be the liar you are.

I think he (dingo) is getting nervous. No reply to the post after he says I have stolen pitcures from AVS forum where I give him a choice to see whatever he wants next.

Remember back in the DaveBG days, that moron opened at least a dozen accounts and replied to his own posts and then began defending himself? The guy would make the same capatalization errors and use the word "whilst" in every post.

Yes, that took a MENSA member to figure out.

He has a golden opportunity to shut my big mouth up, along with everyone else in here who thinks he's full of s*** and says I'm the one with multiple accounts.

I love it.

Dodgeball anyone?

Well Setian, I guess I am your parasitic twin or something of that nature (according to pit).

Yes dingo,

but what about my big mouth post up there? "^^^^^^^^^"

Don't you want to prove I'm a complete BS artist? You could discredit me completely.

Why did you avoid that post like the plague?

i will add you tonight. honestly, i can not remember what my 360 one was...it has been so long.

post whatever pictures you want from AvsForums or some other home theater site. Like other people have said, no one really cares, but you.

What is your PS3 id?

I have been reading this site for several months now. Just created an account a couple of days ago.

The troll posting on here is all too funny to read.

Just so you know jeffrey, that's a really bad idea. I don't think anyone will care in here but if you post a video on YouTube and your gamertag is shown on screen, MS will ban you from XBOX Live for life.

There is something in the agreement that states you aren't allowed to post it publicly. They have a whole team of insects scouring youtube posts just for this purpose.

Secondly, if you are the kind of person who likes to stir the s***storm (like myself), the last thing I would do is share my tag with people in a forum who could report you on Live just for spite.

By the way, mine is not Hollywood__ but if someone owns it, you can complain all you want.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/661/hw2zv5.jpg

Only one of us is full of s*** pitdingo. I'll pull out the coup de gras next if I have to.

That plexiglas MAME controller is worth more than your life, but then again, so is a Nintendo DS.

it's linked to your live id (your email)

if you forgot your password

https://accountservices....rf?lc=1033&id=66262

oh and no using a friends ps3, I can tell how long an accounts been active.

hehe, no man you can share them all you want :P

microsofts offical (public) forum
http://forums.xbox.com/9870826/ShowPost.aspx

just a few sites ment for sharing gamertags
http://www.360voice.com/
http://www.my360stats.com/
www.xbox360achievements.org

Hollywood, He has a point about stealing photo's. I'm not saying that you did that mate, but who knows for sure. You know you could prove that those photos are real by taking a picture of your equipment with a piece of paper that reads:

"This is for you PIT, Love Hollywood__"

That should prove it.

My bad, I was told never to share my gamertag in public. Some idiot got banned, maybe it was for another reason.

I'll try and find a link to the YouTube video.

LOL Halo,

I'll do it. Look for it later today. I put all that s*** away but I'll take a pic of the top shelf which has my 360 controllers on stands.

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(Updated)

**** it, I'll do it now.

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7969/plhrw3.jpg

jeffrey is relentless, dingo scrambles.

Well done Mate!

I know I've backed up PIT a bunch of times before... mainly because anyone on this site that likes the PS3 (or any sony product) gets stoned to death by you people (and BN), BUT.......

I think its only fare that PIT posts a photo as well. Seriously, to put in end to it, post a photo of your new PS3 and Wii with a note that reads:

"My Dearest Hollywood__, our love will always blossom. Eternally yours, PIT"

I'll shut up if he does it. I want to see his copy GTA4 in the picture and the Dell monitor it's hooked up to.

Apparently the PS3 has a 15 pin VGA port I don't know about or his Dell 26" has an HDMI input. This is why I asked for the model number but we should plainly see the PS3 menu or GTA4 running on the monitor.

just added you on my 'fake' ps3.

Here is my fake PS3 and my fake Dell monitor.

http://img509.imageshack...509/5494/img2508js1.jpg

you FAIL again. I am waiting for my apology

edit: almost forgot...here is my fake Wii
http://img125.imageshack...125/8898/img2509hh8.jpg

You see how easy that is? Congratulations pit, I am actually astounded.

Now I will STFU about it and I do apologize.

Maybe you could quit ranting about MS for a while and enjoy your PS3.

By the way, I never said your Wii was fake, I only implied it. Now all we need to do is get you a 360 and you're all set.

Wow. I can not believe you are man enough to admit you have no clue. Did not think you had it in you.

BTW - I use component cables to hook up to the Dell. I am going to bust it out to my big tv tonight and check it out over HDMI since my wife is gone.

I often have no clue, I just open my big mouth until somebody shuts me up. Kudos.

A lot of people are in denial about the way they are, I'm not one of them.

If you toned down the crazy MS hate talk, I'm sure people would be a lot nicer to you. If you like inciting massive flame posts, keep doing it, I wouldn't change for anybody either.

____________________________

I would actually like to try GTA4 out, but I have little ones that are very impressionable and I don't think it's a good game to have around here.

Hahaha... Good stuff!

I would feel wrong if I didn't post something of my own seeing as how I instigated the photo thing. I'm at work now but I'll do it tonight.

Hmmm... What should my note read? Any suggestions?

Don't worry about it Halo, this story isn't even on the from page anymore.

Let's move on the the next d*** measuring contest.

Pit and I have hugged it out.

Well jeffrey,

Whether or not dingo is on PSN is moot now. The crazy bas**** actually does own a PS3 with GTA4.

Grats to you for finally posting pictures.
Sorry for calling you a liar

Begs to question why you didnt slam dunk (us) in the other thread earlier this week?

Seems we are both Setian at least ;)

I must say Halo I had you figured wrong. I used to think you were yet another MS hating basher just looking for the chance to dis anything MS. But from your recent posts you do indeed have common sense on your side and know when enough is enough :)

which thread was that?

"If you toned down the crazy MS hate talk, I'm sure people would be a lot nicer to you. If you like inciting massive flame posts, keep doing it, I wouldn't change for anybody either"

Spot on, thats the only issue.

I think you can work out which one :)

"The troll"

Hello Pit$.

So you did.
when will you next be on.

Yeah, but you can't find a wii anywhere.

You can get one easy as you like in the UK.

Not true, Wal Mart had seven yesterday. They had about 50 of the Mario Kart that comes with the steering wheel to click your remote into.

I was kidding

I saw a guy buying one at Target yesterday, so they had some.

The PS3 may well be outselling the 360 now. But I bought my 360 when it came out... and I bought a PS3 a few weeks back. Does that mean, effectively, a no sale? Does the fact I own both mean that my PS3 sale DOESN'T count? I'm confused...

That's the problem with counting month by month.

However, I doubt everyone bought the consoles in that order, so it probably evens out.