Off topic but Sony is at it again. And to say some of fanboys here say they like their customers.

http://www.washingtonpos...20/AR2007112000360.html

"Sony's fine was increased by 30 percent to just over 47 million euros after it obstructed the investigation, the statement said."

And they might wonder why people are more and more critical of them these days.

From the article: "Some developers have claimed that the console is particularly hard to code for due to its sophisticated cell processor and the like."

It can't be that much more difficult than coding a scientific application, for example, on an Intel Itanium processor.

Well it obviously is.

well then maybe its the "Cell" that is the failure

It's pretty bad if game developers can't code games on a multi core CPU.

They can code for the 360s multiple cores just fine. It is just the Cell's ridiculous amount of cores that is far from developer friendly.

It's not just the CPU. The developers behind the PS3 version of Assassin's Creed had cited the system memory as being the main obstacle... the way it handles memory, and the fact that there's simply not enough of it.

LOL, considering that the 360 has the same amount (512MB), but slower, means that the 360 is surely even more inferior...

PS3 has 256MB of GDDR3 and 256MB of Ultrafast XDR.

360 has 512MB of GDDR3, running 50Mhz slower clock and higher latency than the PS3 stuff.

Oh we have Joey bringing us the facts and information first hand again.

On one side we have the developers who actually develop stuff for the platform telling us about problems.
On the other side we have Joey telling us its all a load of bulls***.

Which would you choose?

Joey,

Next time you are vacationing in Monte Carlo or gambling on the Riviera, please think of us little people, OK?

*Everyone bow down to Joey as he flies overhead in his corporate jet sipping single malt whiskey and smoking a $50 cigar.

Sorry, not that rich. For F1 2008 Monaco weekend, after buying 600Euro of race tickets, I can only afford to stay in Nice..

But I won't be thinking of you losers sat playing Halo3 on projector TV's in your's mom's basements..

(bowing)

Right, BS. Just text, still a nobody.

Amazon.com is having some of their products being voted on for black friday. One was Wii vs PS3 vs 360 (Wii being first).

But get this. They have another one Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD vs TiVo. HD-DVD came first then *Tivo* and then Blu-Ray last. :D

You should head over their Steve and make a bunch of multiple accounts and bring Blu-Ray back up. And that's an order "Blu-blood" soldier!

http://www.amazon.com/customersvote

Ever thought that only HD DVD and Wii are worth that much?

No, Dave / Steve is too busy reviewing product at cnet.com that he doesn't even own. He gave every BD player there a 10 out of 10 and every HD-DVD 1 out of 10, now that's a ****1ng loser for you.

The Blu-Ray obviously isn't.

what's really funny is the bluray is the same price as hd-dvd and hd is still winning

just seen a hilarious post over at woot had to share
http://www.woot.com/Foru...ost.aspx?PostID=1741885

Loved this

http://everygamersblog.c...s/2007/03/2doorstop.jpg

Heh, good stuff. I especially liked the ad for 'Bagpipe Hero' further down. :)

I just thought of something related to these games.

http://ps3.ign.com/index...ing&sort.order=desc

http://xbox360.ign.com/i...ing&sort.order=desc

Shout out to pintdigo and Setian^Stalker & Davey/Stevy.

The PS3 needs to at least match the 360 with the list before its considered a must own console. Minus the repeated reviews of course.

I didn't put the Wii games, because I do think they are better. I'm loving Galaxy and Metroid 3. However since most of the comparisons are between the xbox 360 and ps3, I figured I'd keep it simple.

The town idiot Ed Oswald posts again..

What "game problem" would that be then Ed? All I see is plenty of decent games, many of which the other consoles simply arn't capable of. RatchetClank/Unchartered/UT3/MGS4 and so on...

But if you want to spin it like this, Microsoft must be 1,000 times more desperate for games, as they sare s***ing their development enviroment for $99.

Anyone wondered how much Microsoft pay these guys to write this crap?

Learn to ****en read articles without your sony cheerleading costume on for crying out loud.
Numbers numbers numbers!!

God post a positive article and they still go nuts...

How come the 360 isle at gamestop is 10x larger than the PS3 isle?

"game problem" == PS2 isle is 100x bigger than the PS3 isle, and it's still growing.

Thanks for playing.

Ed, just delete his account.

"Foul language and personal attacks will not be tolerated."

Game problem is there is nothing but crap out for the PS3 I guess that is difficult for you to understand.

And you are the city or town idiot here.

Wow, I can not get over your ignorance. You are so full of poop.

"All I see is plenty of decent games"

Except that the PS3 has the least amount of games. Go figure.

Anyone wonder how much Sony pays Steve to write this crap?

That's right, nothing out for PS3.

Sorry, the wakeup call is COD4, which is 1080p on PS3, and looks amazing, and 720p/upscaled1080 on 360, and looks average.

And you'll never tell the difference on your 720p TV.

Looks great to me on my 360. Nice try commenting on something I am sure you know nothing about.

A ported game from EA is that best that you can do? Pro Street looks good on the PS3 also, oh wait an other port. You are a complete idiot.

One more game Ratchet and Clank oh forgot it is not selling very well. Keep playing your PS2 ports on the PS3 and enjoy. Tard.

COD4 looks better and plays better on my PC than the PS3.

Multi-platform is all the decent games PS3 has.

Um its not a port u dope, its a sequel that looks better than 95% of anything on Xbox, but regardless of the graphics its a fun game. Uncharted just came out and is a sick game! Definetly the best out for PS3 and looks better than anything Xbox has to offer currently. Killzone 2 will be the true next gen jewel for the PS3 and will trump gears of war and halo3, in both graphics and gameplay will be awesome also. All in all both systems are fun and have good graphics, both are worthy of owning for different games and BR movies. I also own a Wii and mario is one of the funnest games Ive ever played, but not as good as uncharted or assasins creedor COD4

Care to share your crystal ball so the rest of us can see how a game thats not even out yet is going to trump the gameplay of gow and halo3?
That's assuming and we all know assume =
makes an 'ass' out of 'u' and 'me

Nice try though, the both systems are fun line almost had me convinced you were neutral

as the proud owner of a new noisy 360 (which by all other accounts is completely awesome, XBL + downloads + sweet games = win), I look forward to the day when there is a compelling reason for me to get a PS3 since it would be more than welcome to join my new fancy shamncy highdef living room.

mmm high def

I just recently finished up my HD theater. :-D

Too little, too late.

smell the desperation.

You’re pathetic Ed Oswald…

Do you even try to hide it anymore?

fern33 ..... LMAO!

Dave is in the building ...... You must work the night s*** on that assembly line.

Hollywood__,

You're a cute kid and all, and I know that people here like you because you're like the Beta"News" cheerleader/pet and you make people laugh with your 15,000 word posts... But you have to give up this Dave thing with me.

Feel free to catch Steve/Joey or whomever else you think is Dave... But with me, I think I've proven with my posts that I am not him. I think people agree with you that someone (Dave) uses different names… But that my friend, is not me.

We can take a survey and I think the majority of people will agree that though I have some of the same opinions that this "Dave" person has... my writing style, phrases that I use, admissions that I make, and comments alone ARE completely different.

So disagree with me, engage me in debates, bash me on misspelling “looser”; that’s cool…. But let this Dave thing go with me.

Thanks YO!

Sorry fernz33,

Even if you weren't Dave, you still have the same mentality of everything Sony is great and everything Microsoft sucks. You spew nonsense about products you don't even own.

Take a look, you will never see me bash a product I dont own simply because it's competition to the product I bought or because I want my chosen format or prduct to win some silly war.

I'd bet $100 you are a member of blu-ray.com or some other Sony fanboy website where you all go to stroke each other to feel better about your purchase.

Do you even read my posts? I have repeatedly said that Sony is doing CRAPPY (right now).

You don't agree or like my mentality, GREAT! That's the point of these websites. But bash me on those qualities. Call me a $ony fanboy.

Just let the Dave and me thing go man... let it go.

If you don't like his articles then by all means go back to your extremely biased bluray.com

Sorry not a member.

But thanks anyways for the plug... I'm sure they appreciate your support.

It's a scheme to get people to think you are someone else, as soon as I saw the "M$" you just posted, all doubt went out the window fernzDave.

Or how about fern$Dave. :)

My support funny how many places on the web make fun of them for being such morons and 12 year olds. Thanks for the plug confirms that you do got there.

This would be a non-story if PS3 was doing decently...

That's a big *if* right there.

I love it, Joey Davecon says there are plenty of good games but even Sony says there arent.

Ironic.

Sony also says the format war is a stalemate, but Joey and his visitors badge say different.

"Joey" really doesn't want this on the internet as he took down his post right away, so of course I will put it in every one of my posts from now until the rapture.

http://img225.imageshack...p?image=dsc01308nh5.jpg

Now that we all know you work in a factory, basically a job any chimp could do, it explains your psycho behavior and your inability to live in the same plane of existence as everyone else.

What do you do? Fit little pieces into other ones as the roll by on a conveyor belt? I guess all those years of playing Tetris finally paid off.

Let me guess, you are the manager and you don't have to do any real work?

I would have guessed CEO living in luxury after you posted this:

http://img225.imageshack...p?image=dsc01308nh5.jpg

I guess your servants don't come until the next day to dust your palacial estate.

But wait, that was "Steve" that posted that picture. Now, let me get this straight just so we're all clear.

Steve's digital camera posts to imageshack have this little nugget of information after each post - "Shot with: DSC-W100"

Joey's posts to imageshack - "Shot with: DSC-W100"

DaveBG's posts to imageshack - "Shot with: DSC-W100" - You remember those shelves of BD movies at some store near Prague?

You can look at them yourself if you visit the two links in this post.

All three of you "different" people own a ..... Sony Cybershot. Yes you are right, I'm am just insane for thinking you are all the same people all this time.

Jagoff.

"What do you do? Fit little pieces into other ones as the roll by on a conveyor belt? I guess all those years of playing Tetris finally paid off."

Yep, that's why my employer flies me 4,000 miles to Munich to exhibit their products.

The difference between us, is I actually travel the world on company business, you have to make up stories of business trips to Florida.. Infect everything about you says 2nd-rate, ie. HD-DVD, Xbox, Projector TV and imaginary cheap Florida motels.

"I actually travel the world on company business"

LMAO, man... you're as credible as Sony nowadays.

That explains it, it's all the high altitude and sony paychecks that cause you to go nuts about PlaySomeday 3

Youd have to expect him to go crazy after doing repetitive work in a factory all day!

LOL, Id have to agree with that.

LMAO @ Joey / Dave's post.

Hold on ....... still laughing.

Whatever you say Mr. post all my imageshack photos under different usernames with the same camera.

You stupid moron, no one believes a word you say about anything because you have been proven to be completely full of sh!t time and time again, yet you keep trying to prove you are on step above nothing with your fake badges and imaginary jet set lifestyle.

Does your employer know you're a brainwashed compulsive liar with severe self esteem isues?

I think he's crying while jerking off as we speak. LMAO @ Joey.

"Infect everything about you says 2nd-rate"

Infact.

There fixed it for you.

Joey / Steve / Dave,

Maybe you should get one of those pocket spellers for the retarded CEO on the go.

No one believes you, you are a complete and utter loser. Go back to cnet and review BD and HD-DVD players you don't own like you have been doing since they came out you friggin retard.

Now you're some hot shot world traveler? I think you just make up this crap as you go. Your post Chernobyl apartment pics sure scream "success". Was that your briefcase I saw sitting in the background filled with crackers?

Is there a really short yellow bus that comes and picks you up every morning? Are you a window licker? I think you are.

Now that was great.

Hollywood did you see that Disney has approved the new 51 gig disks for HD? Very interesting. Wouldn't that be a real kicker to have Disney do both formats?

Yea, probably is. LOL

"As more and more new titles are developed for the PS3 format, SCEI will significantly reduce the price of the Reference Tool in order to contribute to the cost saving measures of the development community,"

So how does this latest price drop open the door for new games? Isn't this just going to make developers want to wait till later to try and get in cheaper?

Sounds like its going to open the doors for some horrible games. Just like the Wii has its share of crappy games.

Get ready for more games like LAIR!!!

http://www.youtube.com/w...Di8&feature=related

The M$ XBox 360 also has a very large selection of crap games.

"The M$ XBox 360 also has a very large selection of crap games."

Nice try, but pretty much all the "crap" games are multi platform and can be found on all three current generation consoles. It's easy to port some low budget crap game to other consoles. Show me some exclusive titles on the XBox 360 which are crap. Yeah, that's what I thought.

Very true

And so does the Wii in fact there are more crap by ratio on the Wii.

Well according the that jag off Halo 3 and Gears of War are crap so he has no clue what he is talking about.

Thats a good one el dingo.

Hello pit$ingo.

Gamespot ran a story about the dev kit price cut the other day.

"The move follows a similar price-cut timeline set out by SCEI on the PlayStation 2 development hardware, which saw its price reduced just a year after the console's launch in 2000."

Is it desperation, or just business as usual on this front? Probably a little bit of each...

seems kinda desperate to me.... should be interesting to see how the fanboys want to spin this one

Well it's not not (intended double negative) going to get people making games for it, is it.