yeesh another day on betanews where nothing but pethetic people think of other ways to tell people they hate this company and that company. oh well i only have myself to blame for reading these crap comments.

And your service provider, for letting you access these pages.

Tha bas****s...

Mmm...nevermind. :P

Funny how much emotion this one stupid article incites from everyone. A browser was added to a bundle deal. So what? Did the stock market spike? No. Did it make you run out and buy something? No. Shut up. You all need to drink decaf.

The only thing we should wonder from all this is why is everyone else coming out with better IE-wrapper browsers BEFORE microsoft? Maxthon (formerly MyIE2) and now AOL. You can easily write your own as well. It's not that difficult. So why does it take MS a year (or three) to make a better one? So far IE7/b2 doesn't look like much of an improvement over Maxthon (and it's sure uglier as well).

Maxathon and AOL only have to appeal to a segment of the market? THey only write the wrapper, while MS has to do all the under-the-hood dirty-work?

Just a few possible reaons....

Wow, did most of you even read the article? here are a few reasons why flamers are idiots.

1. Sony isn't "pissed" at M$, Hello...They will still have IE AND Netscape 8 as an option for users, Plus...Windows...Duh..

2. If anything this could be good in a way because Sony is supporting third party Browsers such as AOL Explorer and Firefox/Netscape. Give the UNDERDOGs a chance!!!

3. Why would Sony be mad that the X360 was out first? The Dreamcast came out before the PS2 and look what happend to it lol.

4. Sony's computers loaded down full of usless software? This is new? Dell? HP/Compaq? eMachines? THey've been doing that for years! Why do you think Computers are getting so cheap!

5. ALso like others said, AOL Explorer is nothing but a beefed up IE Browser.

6. THe rootkit thing is old......We all know about it. The jokes were funny the first 5,000,000 Posts....

This might make more sense if it didn't contain contradictions.

2 and 5 contradict. IE cannot be an underdog to itself.

AOL *is* IE...with ActivX turned off and a few bells and whistles.

If you want a wrapper around IE, use Maxathon(sp?). AOL explorer is crap. If they want IE as an option, they should have used a pre-existing, proven wrapper.

Maxthon. It's actually a quality browser(shell), but I won't have IE on my system, so can't run it.

Jackasses, AOL Explorer is Internet explorer with active disabled. Bravo!

Great that's all we need. I purchases a Vaio laptop last year, and was very disappointed by the software bundle (the hardware was great thou). The laptop was loaded full of useless rubbish, including Norton SystemSlug 2005, and other cr@p.

Surely what gets pre-installed on a laptop should be driven by CONSUMER requirements, NOT corporate tie-ins???

Sony really have lost the plot, what with the Walkman Connect fiasco (which I am suprised Betanews have not reported on), and the rootkit.

Wow, a partnership between two of the most maligned companies in recent history! It's like crack for fanboys!

Obviously everyone else is completely wrong about these two cutting edge innovators. Please tell me that AOL Explorer will now come with a rootkit plugin!

Nah...that'd be the next version...the AOL Sony/BMG Explorer.

Sheesh, who cares, AOL Browser is just a shell for Explorer anyway.

Sony computers sucks anyway.

Perfect platform for another Sony Rootkit Virus. Sony really doesn't think much of the people that buy their stuff do they.

Hmm, AOL Explorer instead of IE. Not much change there other than the prettier look of it. I gave it a chance when it first came out thinking wel maybe AOL actually did something worth while......boy was I wrong. It's just as bad as IE at letting spyware and popups through. It's marginally faster than IE but then that doesn't take a whole lot does it. I will give it a plus for the tab thumbnail feature. Overall Maxthon, a shell for IE of all things...not a standalone...a shell, is better than this piece of garbage.

It does smack of sour grapes, does it not?

Waaaahhhhhhhhhhh!

My name is SONY and I'm pissed that MS spoiled my rootkit by deleting it!!!

Waaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

I'm pissed that the XBox360 got there first and now owns the console online market before I could get my act together!!!

WWWWWaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

I'm pissed that MS backed HD-DVD instead of my typical proprietary overpriced anti-consumer fodder!

WWWWWWWaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

I'm not gonna their bwowsa enny mooore an' I'm gonna my ball an' go home!!!!

WWWAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Two words for you SONY and they're not "Happy Birthday".

Good points roj!

my guess is that the people who are ripping Sony for this move have never even tried AOL Explorer.

Im sure you are the same people who still think AOL is the worst company on earth and include crap with their software.

If you people would get a clue and actually try AOL's most recent softwares you would see that isn't the case and you would see that products like AOL Explorer are infact excellent products and are worth using full time.

I applaud Sony's move because it means they care about the people buying their machines and would prefer it to keep them clean in the process.
No, AOL Explorer is NOT spyware/adware, so get a clue.
AOL Explorer is a much better browser than stand-alone IE...and more secure.

And for the guy who says what is my reasons for liking AOL Explorer?
It has an awesome interface. It is much faster than Internet Explorer. It uses preview images of everything that is anything.

Its fine...you dopes can all go back to your your wonderful FireFox...AOL doesn't need you using their awesome browser.

"Its fine...you dopes can all go back to your your wonderful FireFox...AOL doesn't need you using their awesome browser."

You do know AOL uses Firefox also right? They own Netscape which is Firefox based. So in AOL's perspective it doesnt matter if you are using IE or Firefox as long as it is their branded version.

Im aware of that.

They are two separate teams...

HOWEVER...

If you talk to the same people ripping AOL Explorer they will tell you they hate Netscape as well since its just a rebadged bloat of FireFox. So you can't win.

I've used Netscape...I've used AOL Explorer (Had the joy of recently downloading and installing AOL's safe n' secure BS for a customer recently and gave it a test drive).

IE in an AOL shell is nothing new. They've used IE in this way before. I was...unimpressed.

"m sure you are the same people who still think AOL is the worst company on earth"

You mean they're not?

"Martha! I can see the stars going out one by one... "

You can tell this guy is a n00b. I don't think I agree with one point he made.

AOL is in fact one of the worst companies on earth. They have no product. We don't need them to get on the internet anymore, yet people like Tokar still pay them monthly.

Another reason to hate Sony...

Wonderful. A program that easily allows spyware into your computer replaces with a bloated program. Should have just used Firefox or Opera.

Sorry, but you're wrong here.. AOL Explorer has NEVER allowed spyware on my computer, and I have a spyware detector, and it's never shown up on it.. I am sticking with AOL Explorer and Netscape for the time being.

I think he meant switching from IE (spyware problems) to AOL Explorer (bloated).

Ok, the Sony VAIO just got a whole lot less appealing.

That piece of crap was never appealing in the first place - unless you happen to like large overpriced doorstoppers.

lmao...

My father in-law bought one. Hate the guy, so I didn't mind in the least.

Apparently he's had to send it back twice already and he's had it less than 6 months.

And he's been told not to use his restore CD that came with it...they sent him an 'updated' one. FTP (in any way, shape, or form) was apparently seriously broke on the restore image.

Wierd...

Typical.

It's a Sony.

I've not used the AOL browser so I don't want to be too hard on it. I just can’t help thinking, what the hell is wrong with Sony lately? They seem to be on a self destruct mission!

Yay?

Hahahaha.

Beautiful.

ROFL

Lol

Weeee?

Waaaaaaaahooooooo???

Do you...

Yaaaaaahoooooo???

(yeah, I did it. I'm not proud of it.)

Just because some people may think AOL Explorer is bad, doesn't mean it is. I love the AOL Explorer. I think it's great that Sony and AOL did this deal.

see, the people that think AOL explorer is bad, usually have reazons to back their opinion up....
where are yours, for stating than AOL explorer is good ???

And where's yours?

I have no opinion on it, [fanboy]except that firefox is better[/fanboy].

It's fast, doesn't let spyware through, no popups

Oh wait, I just described Firefox, oops

Come to think of it, I really can't find anythign good about AOL Explorer. What can I say

Firefox Fanboy well maybe not a fanboy but I have no love for IE. I mean I don't try to cram my opinion down everyone elses throat if you know what I mean.

Hey...hey....hey....let's stop abusin' the whole fanboy thing. Ok? Thanks.

Lol!

No no, that would be [name="fanboy"]except that firefox is better[/name]

Wow, now it's a totally overpriced paperweight.

This from the company that says spyware can slow you 500%. It might be able to slow you 100%, but then what; reverse 4x as fast? Can you go back in time then with AOL?

Drop $$ on a VAIO, and you didn't shop well.

THANK GOD somebody noticed that problem. I am tired of explaining to people that you cannot go back in time by not using and at the same time using bandwidth.

So what'll it be: MS DRM, Sony DRM, or AOL DRM? Pick your poison.

I think Microsoft needs to sue Sony for this--what's the difference between sueing MS for including IE as default browser on Windows 98 vs. including AOL browser as default browser on all Sony systems?

sony does not have all the pc market.

Exactly.

So that makes it ok for anybody with really no reason to sue Microsoft?

I am about to post this. I think we should go buy a Sony computer, and sue the hell out of them. Sue them for gazillion (is this word exist) dollars.

Difference: The average person can probably remove AOL Explorer without fubar'ing their system.

Why would MS sue? AOL Explorer is based off IE so their browser is still getting used. Now about Sony bundling Netscape, which is Firefox based, as the primary browser your question has more merit. As for that Microsoft was sued because they were bundling IE with their OS, which was and still is the dominant OS on the market, to become the #1 used browser. Sony is bundling AOL software with their computer and does not dominate the market.

Yay!!!