After hearing the lame excuses and cutdowns for the ps3 i think im going to buy an xbox360.

No! Dont worry diehards, the ps3 isnt going to kill the xbox360 so quit pissin your pants.

I still played my snes games when playstation came out. So surely there will be pleanty of people still playing xbox360 when the ps3 is released.

Dreamcast will PWN j00!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

So, does this mean that Microsoft will release Halo 3 for XBOX 360 any earlier? I read that they were going to wait for the PS3 release date so that Halo 3 would release during the same week (presumably Spring 2006 prior to this news), in order to take away from Sony's launch excitement.

Knowing MS, if this news about Sony is true, and that the PS3 will be delayed for quite some time, I would guess they'd wait until Holiday 2006 to release Halo 3 in order to generate holiday shopping excitement. I hope they prove me wrong and release earlier, so I then have a reason to buy the new machine.

I love my PS2.

So much so that I really don't care when the PS3 comes out. Call me old fasioned, but I'm happy with the capabilities I have w/o spending $400+ just to get prettier graphics.

Dude.. you are so far out of the loop, I am not even going to get into it..

Lookup the specs on a PS3, its not just prettier graphics..

I suppose you think an HDTV is just a big screen on steroids too?

Lighten up, you sound like a fanboy. Basically yeah it is just prettier graphics. Unless you'd like to clue us all in as to what else is so great about it. Either way not everyone is going to want one; it's called an opinion.

"CPU: Cell Processor
PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
Total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS
GPU: RSX @550MHz

1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
Memory:
256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz
System Bandwidth:
Main RAM -- 25.6GB/s
VRAM -- 22.4GB/s
RSX -- 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB -- 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)
System Floating Point Performance:
2 TFLOPS
"

I can sum this chunk up by repeating myself: "Prettier graphics". Not that I'm complaining, I'm just not excited about it...

"Sound:
Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-based processing)"

They just now finally managed to get real Dolby 5.1 processing? This should have been in PS2. Nice, but it won't be a selling point for me.

"Storage:
Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1"

So, no built in storage... pah

"I/O
USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1"

Support for SD and CompactFlash.... yipee, let me rush out and get a PS3 now!

"Communication:
Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)"

The wireless networking will be nice, as will bluetooth.. but I already have wireless controllers for my PS2, the only thing I wish was wireless on it is the headset for Socom.

"Controller:
Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB 2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)"

So am I reading this right? Up to 7 controllers? I can hardly see anything with a 4-way splitscreen.

"AV Output
Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1"

Greek to me, all I know is it will display on my 19" 5-year old TV the same my PS2 does. And I'm not all too interested ina $2000 HDTV.

"Disc Media:
CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE"

Yay for Bluray.... unless it fails... in which case boo for Sony.

Notably I never said I wouldn't buy one, I'm just in no hurry. When the PS3 prices (and the HDTV prices) drop to make it worth the purchase, I likely will buy one. Until then, my PS2 suits me fine.

Oh, and yes, basically just prettier graphics.

pretty graphics...you're forgetting the new color it...might come in which adds like 30terrablips of power and the stylish new controller that...is being redone

*yawn*

I'm not interested in Sony dreck. Like everything else Sony, it will be overpriced, proprietary and overrated.

Now, back to reading REAL news...

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Ok, so what if Sony had stuffed up lately. I'm not really not that bothered. Why is that? Because they HAVE done SOME good things. e.g: They were first with personal stereos (can't use "Walkman"--it's a TM of Sony). Then again, they have also done some really stupid things, like CD rootkits as we all know, but the really stupid act was to release the MD Player -WITHOUT- MP3 support, rather than try to push their proprietary AATRAC & AATRAC3 formats.

How gay. If they had released MiniDisc with MP3 and WAV support, they would of took the MP3 market, kicking iPod in the balls and sending them in to planetary orbit.

Ofcourse not every company is safe from being idiot proof. The major flaw in releasing the XBox 360 too early is... wait for it... the lack of HD-DVD support. Funny how a console is already on the market that's based upon a DVD format that hasn't been released yet. When games that require the HD format is released, there are going to be a lot of pi553d off gamers around when they can't play them.

Ok, so what if the HD-DVD part is missing, they can add it later. But aren't we forgetting something? The price of computer hardware is constantly falling - which means when new technology is release, developers are deliberately going to raise the price, and we're talking fat money here. A single layer DVD+/-R drive cost over $1000 when it was released (~early 2002). Now, I can pick up a dual layer DVD-RAM drive for around $50. Now, the point of this rant?

Answer: When HD-DVD is released, the drive alone will cost more than the current XBox360 itself.

This is where I hope Sony won't stuff it up for the rest of us. By delaying the release of the PS3 they MIGHT ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING GOOD and release their console with complete support for HD-ROM, although everybody keeps calling it "Blu-Ray" so it doesn't get mixed up with HD-DVD.

I just hope they don't jack the price up too much, that'll turn people right off. Until that day happens, it's better to wait in anticipation than to see something fall flat on it's ass.

How straight. Someone gay would have known better.

welcome to the english vernacular. i believe he was going for gay as in lame ... now that doesn't mean that gay people are lame mind you.

Wow, all this and no flames? Surprising...

BTW, the HDDVD will *not* be used for games. Microsoft has repeatitly said that it will be for movies only.

Sony has a bad tendicy to promise the world, and spread FUD... ie the "PS2 will be able to make Toy Story level of graphics realtime" and "XBox 360 doesn't support True HD (1080p)".

I would be more interested in discussing something that is more then empty promises and a empty mockup box at this point.

this was kind of exspected wasn't it

No, it isn't surprising. Sony is one big hype machine. Long ago, Sony said the PS3 was going to be more powerful than a super computer due to new microchip technology. As we got closer and closer to the release date, the system kept getting weaker and weaker. And how about when they said the PS3 was going to be released about the same time as the Xbox 360 in an attempt to keep people from setting their minds on buying an Xbox 360 and waiting for the PS3. They pulled the same thing with the Xbox and PS2. They are less of a hype machine and more of a lying machine.

The PS3 is a Japanese system and they usually release to their own first, where the Xbox is an American system and they try to release everywhere at about the same time with America being its first priority.

I could keep going and going about all the other crap Sony pulls, that is a real crap company.

I see... You're a Xbox fan. =D I like both. Current PS2 is more proper for RPG games And current XBOX is more proper for action, sport. I think it goes same way with new XBOX360 and PS3.

I know that Sony has some problems with new consoles, but still... They got awesome hardware.

Don't pull any crap thing here, you make people angry.

As i said " I Like Both " in different ways...

Ok, I like MS, but to say that the Xbox is release everywhere at the same time, is just rediculous. this isn't a nationalism thing, its a geography, realistic, marketing logistics thing. Sony's are built in Japan. So its natural they will be shipped there first. The Xbox was likewise shipped here (USA) first, I don't even think there is a Japanese version, and even if there is... the Xbox isn't going to sell, because the PS3, totally rocks. PS2 is great too. Its not just hype, its historical precidence. The PS2 has more games, support, and developers than XBOX, Dreamcast, Nintendo, and NGage combined, and by like double. I don't think that's a coincidence.

The PS3 stats, are impressive, WHEN it comes out, it will hush you up... I don't want to see you standing in line waiting for one, because I will remind of what you said about it... the ENTIRE time..

Sony, hasn't been the leader in worldwide electronics by accident. Your impression of them may be lessened because it sounds a little like you are a somewhat of a snob, and you have a problem with the asian culture, but Sony is the REAL deal.

I buy sony everything, because they rule. You are entitled to your opinion, my opinion of Sony is perpendicular to yours. I for one have an Xbox, but after playing on a PS2, I like my PS2 better.. the game play, everything is nicer, and you don't you have pay for live play on the net...

I wouldn't say I'm an Xbox fan, per se, I know I'm going to get hell for this but I think Microsoft is a more honest company where Sony always tried to pull a snow job on everybody. Microsoft may be cut-throat with other companies, but Sony is cut-throat with everybody, and I like to go with the more reputable company.

When it comes to the hardware itself, the Xbox is the way better system. Microsoft looses money on every Xbox sale and Sony makes a profit on every PS2 system because the Xbox hardware is superior to the PS2, but Microsoft must compete with the PS2 pricing, but they are both great systems.

It's just that I've known allot of liars and back-stabbers in my life and I can't stand people (and companies) like that, and that is what Sony is. I can't stand Sony!

You are overanalyzing.

"Sony, hasn't been the leader in worldwide electronics by accident. Your impression of them may be lessened because it sounds a little like you are a somewhat of a snob, and you have a problem with the asian culture, but Sony is the REAL deal."

Sony has some of the worst sounding speakers, some of the worst built receivers,overly expensive and underpeforming tv's...I can't stand sony electronics. Their PS2 was good...their PS3 at this point is just vaporware...so what's left? Sony music...

To say "I buy everything sony, because they rule" is pretty funny to me...have you compared their speaker line to a good brand at the same or cheaper price range? I hope you didn't overpay for a sony receiver/tv...you're the biggest fanboy sony ever had. Are you wearing a sony t-s*** right now?

Actually, the Xbox 360 is being released everywhere almost simultaneously. Faster than any other console in history. It has broken all sales records for fastest selling system. MS has got almost every developer in it's pocket; also has acquired Bungie and Rare for exclusive games such as Halo 3. I owned a PS2 for a while and was very disappointed w/the quality and effort put forth.

Rockstar has agreed to release GTA 4 simultaneously w/the 360. Sony's exclusive days are over regarding that. Developers also say 360 is easier to develop for. There will be about 100 games available for 360 when Ps3 launches w/a meager list of games that don't show full potential,enjoy playing your old games instead of new innovative games for a while.

The blu-ray is the better quality format;however HISTORICALLY, regular consumers opt for the cheaper and seemingly more reasonable option. We gamers don't, general public does. An HD-DVD player will cost $400 initially, a blu-ray $1,200. Which do you think an ordinary Joe will pick? Sony hasn't learned it's lesson from Beta-max.

The 360 has a sound network already setup, and is free! Sony is even considering putting an internet browser in their "network" they supposedly are creating,this is a hackers dream.

Sony posted it's first overall annual loss this year, they're praying for this system to work, but they're left w/delays and empty promises. Ps2 was the pinnacle of their success in games, and their twilight. MS will take over this market just as Sony did from Sega years and years ago, HISTORY repeats itself.

i bought and sold the 360....the dashboard is ridiculous..navigation sucks...no 1080 p....controller is gay..stick to operating systems and software please micorsoft. i'll play on my alien ware until the ps3 comes out..plain and simple....however, if i find out that topspin 2 is not being released for ps3, then i will have no choice to buy the 360 again.....

It's ludicrous to expect the PS3 to be out this year. If you read between the lines it's obvious that the PS3 has some major problems--so major that they didn't even have a working demo at the CES expo. It's not smart marketing to keep a supposed impending product launch secret (especially a massive launch like the PS3). Regardless of the reason why the PS3 is being held up I can guarantee you it won't even be released in Japan this year, much less the US. It looks like Microsoft will be the king of this round in the console wars. Sony will have an extraordinarily difficult time making up for all the lost time. The 360 is already out, soon they'll have the bugs ironed out of it, it's relatively affordable, and it is easy (comparitively) for developers to develop for. Sony just tried to skip machine generations by releasing a machine MANY times more powerful then the PS2 and they're getting burned by that decision. Eventually, when the PS3 is released, it'll be awesome. But it'll definitely hurt their market share to be so "late" behind Microsoft. Believe me, this isn't the scenario I want, but it is the way it is. I'd much prefer to see the PS3 arrive sooner than later.

everyone remember that Sony has said many times that each playstation generation would be 6 to 7 years and have games for it up to 10 years. So PS3 is right on time. Xbox360 was rushed, Xbox was only out 4 years 4!!! Just remember that Sony has for the last 10 years more games, and MUCH better "only on". I can give you a 100 Most have games for PS2, but maybe 10-20 must haves for Xbox. Buy for games and game play, not graphics. Even if PS3 was less powerfull I'd still buy it, Why?? Games. I know that at the Every least that there will be 12 games I want to buy that are only for ps2/year. Xbox can't touch that. also on my PS3 I cane play about 95% of playstation games and 100% of PS2 games, Sorry Xbox 360 buyers you can't even play 50% of your xbox games, and O did I forget to say that was for the $400 one, sorry Core buyers you have to keep your xbox hooked up to play any games from it. Last Lets All Remember ONE thing DREAMCAST- great system, I have one but it rushed to get out before PS2 and were is that now??? thats right buy the system for $25. Xbox 360 has a simular fate, but it won't be as bad. But see how the sales all but stop when PS3 comes out.

The Sega Dreamcast was the worst piece of garbage ever made. Nintendo's hardware has always been way ahead of anything Sega released. I think the decision for Sega to become a software only developer was the smartest decision the company ever made.

To be honest, Sega was always stupid enough to push everything forward first, giving companies a chance to produce something better in that current generation of styles and kill off Sega's consoles. I love Sega, but their silly style of creating consoles only to have a proper shelf life of *maybe* a year made them become just a software company in the end.

Care to explain why it was the worst piece of garbage ever made, or should we just take your word for it?

you could make the argument that the genesis was better than the nes AND the snes.

nintendo's hardware hasn't always been ahead.

For one thing, the hardware was not very powerful. The game system didn't even support Dolby Digital surround at all and it used propietary GD-ROMS instead of DVD's because of Sega's paranoia about piracy.

Sega never sold very many Dreamcast game systems. Products from Nintendo and Sony were both outselling the Dreamcast by a large margin. This is probably why Sega stopped developing gaming hardware.

dreamcast was crap, the saturn was the besta much better machine. and i hope everyone realizes the original xbox was the next sega machine, mr gates bought them out, whihc only left sega to make games. how do i know this, i worked for sega.
what killed the dreamcast was you could burn a game from the internet and play it without any probs, no modes needed. and if u recall it also had the microsoft symbol on it. which lead to microsoft buying the next sega machine.
myself i think sony is gonna lose out releasing there next system too far in the future from the xbox360, thats whats gonna kill em.
kinda funny also is that the best game ever last year was a nintendo exclusice resevil4 D:!!
the game saved the gamecube hahaha
~peace

I wonder what the Xbox 360 would be like if it had the extra year to improve its specs and bugs...

IMO, the PS3 will be better. But if the Xbox 360 was to be launched Q3 of 2006 than it'd probably be a better machine than it is now.

The Xbox 360 would have been a hell of a lot better than the PS3, maybe not better in all of the specs, but it would be better in a large portion of it.
I would probably have bought both or maybe just the Xbox 360, but that's only if it were as good as it would be if they held it back a year.

Um, so people should wait for a console that is having such problems they can't ship it?
Yeah, right.
This from the same Sony that was just forced to recall their entire line of digital cameras in China because of shoddy parts. They didn't meet Sony's specs, yet they were sold by the 1000s.
Their initial answer? People wanted bad quality because they bought them.
Accountants seem to have taken over where it used to be engineers.
Die Sony, die.

By holding the PS3 back, Sony is trying to redeem themselves from the Sony they used to be.

They want to be known for being more of a people company than Microsoft, for an example, is.
Microsoft also has XP, and all the other windows products, not to mention IE.

I have a camera from Sony, which was in good conditon when I bought it used, from my step-dad.
I had it for a couple months, and my cousin accidentally pressed the eject button and snapped a piece that was a necessity for it to run.
I also had a vivitar camera that really sucks, I got it for $130, and each year it dropped by $30.
It stops working and even ruined an entire $50 memory card. Luckily the place gave me a new memory card.
Sony has a lot of small parts, just like all companies, and they get broken.
All companies make mistakes, it's just Sony is trying to make fewer and is trying to fix them quickly.
Microsoft is trying to throw out new stuff without checking to see if it works, and has a smaller ability to be trusted.

" By holding the PS3 back, Sony is trying to redeem themselves from the Sony they used to be."

LOL I stopped reading after that sentence...I just couldn't stop laughing. That was great thanks I can always use a good laugh. :)

whereever square enix goes I go...

Hello Sony. Welcome to 2nd Place.

http://boycottsony.us

I predict that Sony will release the PS3 late this Summer in Japan with a single terrible launch title. It will sell like mad, but their production lines will be unable to keep up with demand. They will be unable to launch in the US until Spring 2007, and Europe will need to wait until Fall 2007 before they see a launch. Their chip yield will be dismal - I'm guessing less than 60%, but they will try to fill the demand with chips that *almost* passed Quality Assurance. Soon after launch, the PS3 will have massive hardware failure rates, which will be resolved about the time it launches in the US. Their production lines for the Blu-ray discs will be fraught with error, and I'd say that about 20% of all game discs sold will not work in the machines because they can't get the aperture size for Blu-ray to work fast enough to read game content without MASSIVE load times. They'll push it, and they'll fail.

I can tell you that I'm going to be happily playing my 360 while I read this tragedy unfold next Fall.

The Blu-Ray Discs don't have a lot of difference between the HD-DVD's in terms of the amount of them being made working.

The PS3 will be released by the end of summer, because if it isn't, that would be suicide.
There have probably been PS3's that have been made completely and they are fixing the problems, so they don't pull a Microsoft.
The quality of Blu-Ray Discs, the PS3, and all it's parts are a lot, lot higher than what Microsoft and Toshiba have been lieing about it.

Don't get fooled by jealous and scared companies. Right now Sony is probably laughing at what you are saying and doesn't want to let people like you know that the PS3 is coming out sooner than what is currently expected.

They want to have a "bang" when they go out on the market.

Microsoft did, Nintendo also wants a "bang" when the Revolution comes out, which will be the least expensive.

lol this post is great...

" The Blu-Ray Discs don't have a lot of difference between the HD-DVD's in terms of the amount of them being made working."

That's a completely ignorant statement by a completely misinformed poster...blu-ray has a much higher failure rate...the appareture size is much too small for currenty production lines to make without a high failure rate...that's a fact, look it up. Google is your friend here.

"The PS3 will be released by the end of summer, because if it isn't, that would be suicide"

LOL...sure...sure.

"There have probably been PS3's that have been made completely and they are fixing the problems, so they don't pull a Microsoft."

A PS3 that has been made completely...but full of bugs, is not a PS3 that has been made completely.

"The quality of Blu-Ray Discs, the PS3, and all it's parts are a lot, lot higher than what Microsoft and Toshiba have been lieing about it."

LOL really? Where are you getting this information from...the big black hole on top of your chair?

"Don't get fooled by jealous and scared companies. Right now Sony is probably laughing at what you are saying and doesn't want to let people like you know that the PS3 is coming out sooner than what is currently expected."

LOL yea...Sony is laughing at its potential customers...you'll be a marketing genius when you graduate HS I can tell that about you already.

"They want to have a "bang" when they go out on the market."

And they're accomplishing this by doing some kind of "surprise" release before they even show a working model? Like I said...we got a marketing genius on our hands here.

"Microsoft did, Nintendo also wants a "bang" when the Revolution comes out, which will be the least expensive."

This guy also apparently has a skill in telling the future, while at the same time providing no facts to ANY of his statements. Tri_Edge knows all...don't argue with this guy you'll lose. :)

"There have probably been PS3's that have been made completely and they are fixing the problems, so they don't pull a Microsoft."

No, there have been no 'prototype' PS3's, didn't you read the article? The CES conference would have shown it, Sony would have spent 80% of its time promoting it and Blu-ray, etc. Sony said NOTHING about it. If there ever was a ps3 prototype, it must've had some serious engineering/design flaws, otherwise sony would have shown it.

I to had to laugh Great post Niro

In case you've been on a deserted island, tri, you might have heard the 360 already has had a bang, a huge one. Sony isn't living up to it's word. Blu-ray has more capability, but you may have also missed this news while on your island: they won't support more than 25 Gigs until a very long time after it's released,years possibly.

Sony is sweating right now, maybe laughing foolishly as Nero did as Rome burned, because thats what's happening to them.

They'll be lucky if they get it out by Christmas 06. They don't have more than a "conceptual design" going for them now. Hope all this flood of news isn't too much for you coming back to civilization.

Was this predictable or what? Lets look back in histoy, Nintendo was #1 then Sony came out with the PS1 ahead of Nintendo with more games at launch the rest is history.

Now Microsoft just did the exact same thing to Sony. One can only hope the same thing happens to Sony.

Here was a company known for quality and now they are in the crapper.

Boycott all Sony products perhaps they will get a clue. (but I doubt it)

I've been boycotting Sony for years. I'm glad other people are also finally realizing it too.

When PS3 finally hits the streets, XBox360 really will be a "previous generation" system...

I have no urge to go out an buy a XBox 360 today, and can patiently wait until PS3 is finished, the results will be worthwhile..

Totally agreed :) Even Nitendo Revolution is going to be more fun than xbox360. and Sony is the company I always trusted :) they are going to earn everyones praises when the PS3 is launched. Sony is not going to waste this nearly one year time, they will bring up the PS3 with trustable of quality and the superb performance unlike my mate's xbox360, crashes every 30 mins.

Every game developer agrees that the two systems are comparable in horsepower and feature set, but that the PS3 is unbelieveably harder to develop for. You are simply wrong that the 360 could be "previous generation" with two systems that are so comparable in raw processing power.

Actually you're wrong...every developer also agrees that the 360 has a MUCH better online system then the PS3 (as currently announced)....which makes the feature set of the 360 better. :)

"Sony is the company I always trusted :)"

LOL!! Yea sony is the company to trust...lol!

wtf are you on about? let's just say how many Sony's product do you own? If none then you have no point of posting your pointless comments. All my home electonics are from Sony, from LCD TV, LCD montiors, PS2, PSP, mobile phones, VAIO notebooks, digi camera, home theater systerms, Hi-MD walkman, stereo player, and so on. I can say all of them have superb quality. That I never have to try any other company that makes the same kind of product. why? simply because Sony never lets me down. and btw, you should figure out some point out your mind before ya post.

I own a sony wega TV that displays more scan lines then actual picture...it gives me a headache staring at the thing...good thing it's not my main TV.

"All my home electonics are from Sony"

I guess marketing really does work...;/

"from LCD TV, LCD montiors"

Sony has some of the most expensive TV's on the market...and the performance of a below average-average set. You can get a MUCH better LCD TV then sony...and I prefer DLP or Plasma to LCD anyway.

"PS2, PSP"

So...?

"mobile phones"

Sony still makes phones?

"VAIO notebooks, digi camera"

Their VAIO notebooks are pretty nice...although too expensive (how many rootkits was on yours?? SOrry had to say it:) ). Their digital cameras are way over priced and offer worse performance then their competitors.

"home theater systerms"

I'm a big home theater nut...and I will never stick a piece of sony equipment into my setup. They offer nothing to a high end home theater system...shouldn't even be considered.

"Hi-MD walkman"

Oh so you're the guy that bought an MD player...I knew they actually sold one somewhere...now I know the person that bought it.

"stereo player"

a "stereo player"...ok...

"and btw, you should figure out some point out your mind before ya post."

I don't even know what this sentence means.

I am talking about Sony's products quality not the price. I bet you never even tried of them.btw if you only don't own any other Sony's product except the poor wega tv (we have got one in the loo)how come you moan at Sony's products?

because I've tested some of their home theater equipment...my friend actually owns a sony 5.1 system and receiver (I don't know specifically which model, it has a built in 5 disc dvd player tho'). I'll tell you this much...not only did the 5 disc changer break(it still has the anchorman dvd stuck in it!), but the sound quality is far below what I would expect from any decent system. It flat and dull sounding...he could of done alot better for the money he spent on it.

I'll say this much...I used to have a little sony portalble cd player that I liked....nice and small and fairly durable...but the headphones sucked. :)

It'll be worth the wait. When the PS3 comes out the 360 will be obsolete. My PS2 is still kickin', just like Sony promised so I'm happy.

That's a ridiculous statement; when the PS3 comes all it will be is LATE. By then Microsoft and Nintendo will have a very good head start on their next systems.

This is great, as a Xbox fan. Sony is taking all that crap about how the PS3 is better then Xbox 360. Well Sony, where's YOUR product? Microsoft has already produced. ;)

Well I've been a PS2 fan but this crap is getting ridiculous. I may just have to go get a 360. All that steam Sony's been blowing about PS3 doesn't mean crap if they have nothing to back it up with. So far I'm shall we say a little less than impressed. Then there's this root kit crap that went on not too long ago. My disdain for Sony is about to out grown my dislike of the Microsoft beast.

are you stupid or what? PS3 is still in development! so where the hell do you think the product is? and yeah M$ released their xbox360, so what's so cool about launching their crappy box so earily before the xmas shopping when it wasn't even ready to launch, xbox360 crashes like hell.with few stupid games.

In the meantime I will try to improve my ability to not double post. :D

People who call other people stupid should learn proper writing skills before doing so. Oh yeah, and also not to sound like a raving fanboy.

PS3 is ready when it's ready. The alternive, is rushing a unfinished feature culled console onto the market, to make a quick buck, on the back of xmas market. (which is exactly what Microsoft have done).

Play the waiting game, when PS3 launches later this year, those with a 360 will be left out in the cold, with a last generation console... (the rootkit stuff was nothing todo with Sony Electronics, it's Sony BMG, a totally different company).

I didn't call anyone is stupid so what are you on about? I had only the question.

I have a 360 I have had zero problems, Sony to has had numerous problems with their consoles at launch.

If you do not have a 360 keep your opinions to yourself because you are going off hear say.

The 360 is the best console I have owned and I have had them all.

Lets face it dude Sony sucks and have for the past several years. and FYI Sony Inc is responsible for the rootkit period and also all the lies.

Sony BMG is a different divison not a different Company the parent (Sony Inc)new about the rootkits the whole time and if they did not know shame on them for not following up on their divisons give me a break!

Well asking someone if they are stupid or what isn't exactly a compliment.

Yes, that was ONE Xbox 360.
ONE.
Most systems WON'T have problems, but there is a significant number of Xbox 360's that have them and there is a significant number of them because Microsoft had to go and release it too early. If they were to release it now, they might not sell as many at the time of the PS3 release, which shouldn't be as late as that one person said in this article expected, as there was also one person in this article that said it was going to be delayed one to two months.
They would have a larger group of people that want to buy them, because they went and screwed it up.

The PSP had a couple problems at release in Japan, but it never ruined anything. It may have been a little more difficult to play when the PSP game bay kept opening up, and when it had a bunch of missing pixels, which one of my friends has a lot more pixels gone awry than my PSP does.
All systems have problems at release, it's just the Xbox 360 had TONS of them. At Software, Etc. in West Acres, Fargo, ND, their shooting game, I don't remember which one it was, was ruined by their Xbox 360.

Sony may make mistakes, but they are trying to fix them and they are more humble about it than MS.

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Tons of problems please direct me to your source. The PSP which I also owned had to be returned 4 times They had alot of problems the last time I told them to keep it.

The point is it's not supposed to be in development it is suppose to be in final production! Oh well now they can copy off of Microsoft now.

flash, you speak like an unfortunate. Ps3 is one of the biggest blunders ever, it'll sell b/c of all the fans it's acquired. Just be prepared to be disappointed. Sony had all the hype about the "emotion engine" processor on the ps2, and look at how the original xbox showed that was all bulls***.

The 360 resembles nothing of a box as the first did. Enjoy the grill looking ps3 w/it's boomerang controller, wait though, thats only a CONCEPTUAL DESIGN, I had forgotten. Very few crash, yes, simply b/c consoles are becoming more and more like PCs. The ps3 will be even more like one.

Apparantly, it was ready enough, at least, to launch, as you may know it already has. The ps3;however, isn't even ready enough to show what it will look like, or actual gameplay demonstrations.

They might want to just wait to release the ps3 on the next next generation, they'll have a better shot. It's crap now, well actually, its almost nonexistent, it's a lotta talk w/no game. Say what you say buddy.

I think that a lot depends on Sony being able to secure exclusive contracts with game developers such as Square-Enix and other developers for exclusive titles or promotional copies of their own games.

For all those who are speaking pessimistically about Sony as a whole - do remember that the Sony PSP is selling fantastically and has established itself very well in the market. Nintendo's Gameboy Advance kept the company floating after the dismal failure of the Virtual Boy and the steep competition that the Playstation 2 provided it's more family-oriented Nintendo 64 console.

" think that a lot depends on Sony being able to secure exclusive contracts with game developers such as Square-Enix and other developers for exclusive titles or promotional copies of their own games."

Which MS has the upper hand in. MS learned that tech specs. mean little about console sales--it's the games. That's why I believe MS will likely win this race, and now it looks like they have a year's head start too.

its the fall of sony, sadly.
Began with Rootkit, Will continue with Blueray( even though i give it all my support), and will most likly end with PS3.

I doubt it, with all of their other products Sony will be around far longer than c***roaches. I do think Blu-Ray will fail though, but there's no possible way to know other than wait and see.

MAN, this sux, but im still not buying the 360, ill wait.

I still say 2007. Something will go wrong and delay it, though I can't say I'd be disappointed to see that happen. I hope the Blu-Ray drives in the thing start dying right and left after it's released and Sony has to reimburse everyone who bought one. Kill two birds with one stone. :D

KEK!

/agree

sony is punishing people for the rootkit scandal
users might think sony did wrong by including the copyright faulty software ....
-people

"... i've got your copyrighted cd's right here !!"

-then sony responds ...

"oh yeah ? , well i've got your PS3 right here !!"

Wouldn't Sony actually be punishing themselves in that situation.

no, according to them, we are the ones to blame because we complained about it .... so now they have to punish us

According to them where? Could you show me the source of this information saying Sony is doing this to punish people? What kind of punishment would that be anyway? Sony: "Hey everyone, to punish you we are going to delay our crappy over priced console and lose sales because of it, as well as jeopardize the success of the Blu-Ray format".

Sounds like a great plan. That will show us.

HEH!

YAY Microsoft. You go girl! (I mean Bill):-)

Microsoft still sucks! PS3 will be nice, yet probably more expensive than Xbox 360.. and money is not something I have a lot of right now... so I don't know what I will do.

It seems that saying "Microsoft Sucks" is the cool thing to do these days, most of the people doing so are starting to sound lame.

The fact is that Sony IS a hype machine, and ALWAYS will be. Where's the real time Toy Story 2 graphics on my PS2? I DON'T SEE THEM!

Where's the 70million polygons per second on screen! The PS2 does at best 10Million pps, ooops, guess the numbers were off.

To date all sony has shown are techdemos for PS3 games, the one in-game video i've seen for some racing game didn't look all that impressive, so all you sony fanboys need to wakeup from the dream in thinking that once the PS3 ships it's going to somehow blow away the 360.

If you look quite a few games are coming out for BOTH systems, and this time around MS has gotten and is getting more 3rd party support, especially from key japanese developers.

If you see a Final Fantasy game for the 360 (aside from FFXI) don't be surprised at all.
Square-Enix is a company looking to make more and more money, and it's openly said it's going to make more and more multiplatform games.

Another thing is that the PS3 IS harder to code for, and because of this fact, don't expect it's games to start looking that good until late in 07. Since the 360 has been out longer it's games will start to get better before the majority of PS3 games.

Why do I say this? Just look back to when the PS2 came out, most of it's games at the time were also on the Dreamcast, and in most cases the games looked the same or BETTER on the Dreamcast.

And one last thing, since we all know that the PS3 is the hardest system to code for it's also turning out to be the most expensive to develop for. There have been a few news stories out already touching on that fact. The 360 on the other hand is easier and at the end of the day, cheaper to code for. Again, game developers are looking to make money, and if they can with the 360 they'll keep making games for it.

I don't know who will win the race, and I really don't care, competition is good and we need more of it. But thinking the that once the PS3 comes out the 360 will somehow go poof and die is crazy.

Oh and about buggy hardware, my cousin has burned through 4, yes 4! PS2's. Don't know if that says anything to you or not.

OK think about what you are all talking about. I mean come on please logically you talk about how the ps3 is so godly its such a great system... Look at all the flaws they are having over and over again.. (Company wide) The JP VP QUIT he knew it was getting bad, and NO other JP wanted the damn job so they gave it to a brit. Come on now that right their is saying so much for what the company has been doing lately. Second I have both consoles i like both. But another area to touch on the quote unquote SO many more games that ps has over the xbox... I have a news flash for yeah you are going to see those #s triple for Microsoft. Here is the reason Those companies that make those games need to have their games out to make money right, well I konw for a fact no company is going to wait a year on old technology when they can make their game look better, play better on something new and sell the game for more money. So in retrospect to everyone’s comment about sony having so many gamming companies guess what they just lost a s*** load because if I was a gamming company and they are telling me sorry you can release your game for a year. A year with out a profit on a masterpiece game. That hurts and I sure as hell am going to take my game else where. Now for the stats of this BEAST of a system WHO THE F cares these new systems will match each other in the graphics department,,, YOU KNOW WHY... the programmers for the games have YET to get to that lvl of programming to actually use all the graphics chips. DUHHHHH.. so for what the xbox360 has and what the ps3 will have = them out. ON top of the hd efforts, I love that on both sides but look at the avg consumer do you sure as hell think they can afford a hd tv. I THINK NOT so its not that important so the ray advantage that sony is talking about = out to one expense you are paying for no reason. this system is going to hurt so bad when it comes down to the line, and by that time xbox will end up boosting their sales with new games, and updates to their systems. Go figure. Now respond to something after a bit of research. Not hear say from a gamming website or you best friend sitting across from you at your lunch table!