Sprint Cancels Soldiers' Cell Phones

By Ed Oswald, BetaNews

July 9, 2007, 1:40 PM

Sprint's move to cancel problem accounts is wider than initially thought, and apparently also aimed at those who may roam too frequently. However, some are crying foul over these latest moves.

The struggling carrier was exposed last week for attempting to get rid of accounts that it claimed were calling its customer service lines too frequently. An undisclosed number of customers were told their service will be cancelled on July 30.

However, it now appears another group of people are being told their Sprint service will be dropped on that day -- those who frequently roam outside the company's own network. About 200 of these happen to be U.S. Army soldiers, according to a post to SprintUsers.com.

Fresh off of a deployment to Iraq, a unit was told they were going to be redeployed to West Point to assist in the training of cadets over the summer. About a third of those in the unit were Sprint customers.

According to Sprint's coverage map, the area was supposedly in an area of "best coverage." However, the soldiers found out that coverage at the school was marginal at best, and that they were roaming off the Sprint network.

"Many of us Sprint customers received a letter at the beginning of this month declaring that our Sprint account will be cancelled on July 30th due to the amount of roaming we are doing," user "Shafted_Sprint" wrote.

The soldier said at least 10 others were told that there was no problem with the roaming, and some were even sold new phones as recently as the day the letters were sent.

"I paid LESS to call home and keep in touch from the other side of the world than I do now with Sprint to call within the country" through a Middle Eastern carrier, he continued. The soldier said he planned to contact Congress as well as the media to discuss his plight.

Reaction from those learning of the news was obviously negative. "So, for setting this oh-so-nurturing customer service climate, why does SprintNextel CEO Gary Forsee still have a job?" Russell Shaw wrote for ZDNet.

Comments on SprintUsers.com were similar. "This kind of treatment is unacceptable!" forum user Internet2000 wrote. "This is the kind of story that people need to hear. Every person in the military is working to protect the freedoms of our country and the least Sprint could do is lay off a little bit."

Attempts by BetaNews to contact Sprint for comment for this story went unanswered as of press time.

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By annern1258@aol.com

edited Nov 1, 2007 - 10:23 PM

I switched from Nextel to Sprint. I was told that it wouldn't cost to switch. I had to pay upwards of 6-700$$$ on new cell phones. The beginning of October, my bill is $486. I thought it must be from a past due amt. and paid it. On Oct. 31,07 they disconnect my phone and tell me my bill is $700, and so I paid $380. The next day, the redisconnect my phones. I have called at least 25 times in the past 2 days. I have been hung up on, transfered 3 times every time I call, and that's after the 20 min. call to get a real life person on the phone. Then they just tell me, too bad. You owe this money. Now, tell me, how can anyone end up with $1100 of cell phone service in one month.
I am putting a sign in the window of my car that states,"Sprint cell phones suck! And, they price gouge. And, I have already called the attorney general's office in our state for the department of consumer affairs.
I HATE SPRINT.
nOT TO MENTION, the service sucks! And, I am a sucker for using Sprint!!!!!!@

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By wheelie45

edited Oct 6, 2007 - 7:17 PM

I have three cells and two bills from Sprint. One cell works perfect and one other cell the service agreement of one year is up but they felt they needed to add another year. And then lastly my cell phone. It constantly drops calls, and takes 10 times or more to get a text through. I get my voice messeges three or four days afterwards. I have five towers surrounding me. I want SPRINT to call my service agreement w/o charging me the 200.00 and on the first cell, own up that they did add the year and don't charge for it. Can anyone advise me on this?

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By btalex1990

edited Jul 17, 2007 - 1:03 AM

oops double post. sorry

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By btalex1990

edited Jul 17, 2007 - 1:04 AM

I think Sprint is evil for treating our troops like they are peasants.

They defend our country only to have not very good medical (Al-Queda Detainees gets better health care then our veterans - from sicko), most of our Veterans are homeless, and now our cell phone companies want to make sure our troops can't call their families while they are at risk of being killed.

Nice going Sprint, supporting the Tyrants that want to take away our freedoms and don't care about our troops.

I think Sprint supports Osama Bin Laden because ever since 9/11 corporations have been doing more junk and making more profits.

I think our corporations wanna marry the terrorists.

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By mahanson

edited Jul 9, 2007 - 8:13 PM

Nothing surprises me with Sprint. It had been more then 10 years since I had Sprint and several months ago switch from T-Mobile to Sprint with the understanding from the store that I would get the federal employee discount off my complete service including BlackBerry service. Now I find out this is not true and all I get is I am sorry and thanks for being a Sprint customer. I wish Sprint would cancel me as I would go back to Tmobile of which I had no issues.

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By christmastree15

edited Jul 11, 2007 - 12:29 AM

I was planning on switching to Sprint once my contract was up in July. I will never go to Sprint now, our Military deserves better than this. Sorry to hear Sprint considers them a financial liability. Down with Sprint....
Three cheers for the RED, WHITE AND BLUE!!!
GOD BLESS OUR SOLDIERS!!!!!

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By Jaypup

posted Jul 10, 2007 - 9:25 PM

I had them once and the service was awful but never had to call customer service. However Sprint is not the only company that has horrible customer service. I'm sure in the future we will see WildBlue Satellite Internet right along with them. There contract is the worst in the industry, don't believe me? Go to their web site and read it. I have dealt with a lot of company's in my time and WildBlue is the worst for everything. If ever there is a class action case against them I will surly be on it.

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By GBH

posted Jul 10, 2007 - 5:51 PM

"Dustan this wouldn't happen in Australia"

Only people from Australia will understand this, it is a joke,

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By mrscjr

edited Jul 10, 2007 - 4:54 PM

What does Sprint they care if a customer roams? Don't they make more money on roamers? God knows they charge enough in roaming fees.

Also, I've never spoken to a Sprint customer that was satisfied with the customer (no)service Sprint offers. I think they might want to re-evaluate the cause of their customer relations issues.

If Sprint is giving you the boot, give Alltel a shot. The first plus is that their CS reps speak English as a first language - and it only gets better from there. I've been with Alltel for years, and plan to be with them for years to come.

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By jiggermole

edited Jul 10, 2007 - 4:57 PM

I don't understand the gripe about customer service. Of all the companies with an automated customer service system sprints is one of the best ive seen. I was with an operator within 20 min and I had my problem answered and corrected within 10. As for the cancellations you're right that is kind of a D*&% Move.

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By klmrb1976

edited Jul 10, 2007 - 2:33 PM

I just changed over from Nextel to Sprint after 2 1/2 yrs of Nextel, only because I never got a good signal with my nextel phone. It took me over two weeks, and about 15 hrs on hold, being transferred / hung up on, told wrong info, charged for 2 phones, etc etc, 2 wks before I finally got things (at least I think they are..) straightened out. Their hold times are easily 1/2 hr to an hr each call, and God forbid if they have to transfer you to somoene else. Sprint's customer svc is the worst I have ever encountered. I had to go into a store, just to be told there was nothing they could do for me, I had to call (yet again) cust svc. After an hr and 1/2 of getting no where with this rep I was promised a mgr would call me back within 24 hrs, which never happened. NO one should have to go thru this , ever. The aggravation is just too much. Sprint, I am waiting for MY letter! At this point I would welcome it.

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By cranbers

posted Jul 10, 2007 - 11:28 AM

Wow, I never heard of such poor customer service. They do realize these are people that pay them money right? And to have this kind of negative publicity, think im going to run out and buy a sprint phone with service? I don't hear anything from Verizon and when they have screwed up it was fixed with something to compensate me for the hassle, granted I had to ask a manager for it.

Anyway, sprint is now off my list for good. I had them for several years before they merged with nextel. Think I will drop verizon for them? No way.

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By Tappa

posted Jul 10, 2007 - 9:23 AM

Maybe its just me but I see no retraction, statement or letter of reversal. There is nothing listed on their sight or the Dallas site.

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By allengwinn

edited Jul 9, 2007 - 9:03 PM

Sprint has "un-terminated" military contracts. We have a statement from them on http://www.dallas.org.

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By Frusto

edited Jul 9, 2007 - 9:30 PM

Figures Sprint/Nextel would do this, as they don't care about their customers - you're just a number to them! Sprint/Nextel has horrible customer service and a screwed up network. You can listen to an actual voicemail greeting from a frustrated Sprint/Nextel customer who has had it with bad service by watching the video below. The two minute video is hysterical and also has commentary regarding their screwed up network (CDMA married to iDEN - two incompatible networks!)
View it here at:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUN8N9BQ97c
SPREAD THE WORD - Sprint/Nextel SUCKS!

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By SGD

posted Jul 10, 2007 - 9:09 AM

It seems that most cell phone companies could care less about their cusotmers. I deal with most of them and have found all the companies customer service to be seriously lacking. Have something that people want badly and they can treat you like crap and you'll keep coming back for more.

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By PostDeals

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 7:37 PM

Sprint Cancels Soldiers' Cell Phones

NOW THEY HAVE GONE TOO FAR.

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By Jordanr05

edited Jul 9, 2007 - 7:53 PM

Honest question: Everyone here is having a fit about the soldiers' phones being cancelled. What about all the other customers that got their service cancelled? Does no one care about them?

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By Tappa

posted Jul 10, 2007 - 9:19 AM

I think most people realize that being deployed someplace other than home limits your options. This is why people are more concerned. The average customer can shop around and find a replacement in their area. Those in the military are forced to temporarily live elsewhere.

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By bsf

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 8:33 PM

you sue when you become very unhappy.

if you don't sue, a lot people take you as happy if you're a "normal citizen"

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By justincup

edited Jul 10, 2007 - 7:34 PM

Yeah, because we don't have nearly enough lawsuits in this country already!

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By xyzcb1

edited Jul 9, 2007 - 5:18 PM

I don't understand why this is bad? If you have so much problems and unhappy about the services, doesn't it make sense for to cancel it anyway? And Sprint are doing these people a favor by letting they go without early termination fee.

If I can call up Cingular and complaint they would let me go without ETF, I will do it in a heartbeat.

And for those mention about the $300+ phone you paid when you sign up for the services. There are many free phone. You paid $300 for the look and feature of the phone.

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By dlab21

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 5:16 PM

whats ur #? i'll see what i can do ;)

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By twboyd

edited Jul 9, 2007 - 4:17 PM

Sprint is a horrible cell phone company, cingular(AT&T) is not too far behind. CellularSouth has an unlimited plan with Nationwide and unlimited text, and your bill is exactly the same every month, no matter how many minutes you use or where you go. I highly recommend it.I have been all over the country and had service everywhere, even Hawaii.

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By lileoj

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 3:31 PM

I use Sprint since 2000. And until I read this story I was happy with them. But being a disabled vet I am downright angry with this turn of events and I may even consider changing carriers. That Iphone looks even better now.

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By drumcat

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 3:27 PM

They don't call it "Sprint to the nearest payphone" for nothing...

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By excelon2005

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 3:03 PM

As much as I disagree about whatever Bush is doing with our soldiers, this move on Sprint's part is surely unpatriotic. I know a friend whose boyfriend is in Iraq, and I will definitely pass this on so that she can get a better carrier.

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By VikingBlade

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 3:06 PM

Well according to that same thread, the problem is actually resolved... I presume only for the soldiers.

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By ogman

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 4:46 PM

Apparently they have taken care of it, but only for the soldiers. Here's what bothers me; why is it that public outcry is the only thing that gets to these billionaire idiots? Are they really that disconnected or are they truly sociopathic machines that do nothing but scoop up cash? If they're so smart, then why do we constantly have to teach them how to act human?

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By AaronDobbins

posted Jul 10, 2007 - 10:02 AM

Since when do most CEOs give a rats @$$ about people? Capitalism is capitalism baby. The goal is to make the board of directors and your own pockets fatter along with the investors. It has nothing to do with providing a service for the people in most cases. Sure, there are exceptions to the rule, but not many!

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By AaronDobbins

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 3:01 PM

First of all, the CEO is just trying to raise the stock price so he can cash in on millions when he leaves. I mean, how is he supposed to live on the pittance of a salary he probably receives today? (note the sarcasm)

We get a 12% discount on Sprint through my work, but I will not be switching to them any time soon after reading this.

My question would be related to contractual obligations with these customers. Does it say in a Sprint contract (or any other provider for that fact) that THEY can drop YOU at any time? They should have to pay you an early termination fee for having to go out and buy a new phone and service plan. I don't believe I've ever heard of a company dropping customers because they use their customer service too much, or a service delivered with the phone (roaming). Pretty dumb.

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By dlab21

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 3:38 PM

actually any service provider does not. if you are constantly roaming on another carrier they have to pay for you to use their service, doesn't make much sense does it? i know at the new at&t we just did a large sweep where we informed people that their constant off-network was infact a breach of their terms of service and we dropped em with the same one month notice. why should a provider have to pay you an early termination fee for not letting you use the service they provide? does every cab that passes you have to pay you the cost of the fare? no. get a clue of the business world.

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By ogman

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 4:43 PM

I guess maybe they need a better network then, eh?

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By AaronDobbins

posted Jul 10, 2007 - 10:01 AM

Best point made here probably. Especially considering the article mentions the West Point area was included as a "best coverage" area. Seems to me if they mean "best coverage" because you can roam, it should be noted as such. And yes, if there is an area where a lot of people are constantly roaming, maybe you should put up another tower.

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By nate

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 4:02 PM

So what happens to the $200 phone the customer just purchased to use Sprint (or AT&T)? It becomes dead weight when they get dropped and they have to go buy another phone.

That's some great customer service you endorse.

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By dlab21

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 5:03 PM

i don't endorse the service at all. i hate the idea of a contract and its terms but people should not be foolish enough to break their tos if the wish to remain with the service provider.
if sprint wanted to for this issue they could actually charge the consumer and etf and cancel the service because the consumer is in voilation of the tos.
as far as customer service goes, i wish i could flag problem callers to have their service terminated because if they are calling in that frequently then they cant be satisfied with the service and should have no issue being dropped without penalty.
the customer chose the provider with that technology for the phone so if they chose one that is not compatibile with any other provider they have no one to blame but themselves.
people need to learn to read contracts and research before they buy equipment.

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By twboyd

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 5:33 PM

Exactly where in the contract does it define how many minutes is too many for roaming.....show us that. And where does it define how many time you can call costumer service. I'm paying for that fee. If the cell phone company would provide the service they advertise in commercials and not mess up the billing, then no one woul dhave to use costumer service. Why can't a cell phone company realize that what ever company can provide the best quality service, that they will make tons more money than nickle and dimming poeple in peddy overages. CellularSouth has figured this out....AT&T lost my business, every friend I could talk into it, and my family, because their bill was wrong, call was dropped all the time, that AT&T commercial about the other carriers having the most dropped calls..LIE...that's reverse pschology, if they can convince you that other carriers have more dropped calls than they do, then their service must just not work....this starting to sink in?

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By dlab21

edited Jul 9, 2007 - 5:49 PM

yea its not about them having little dropped calls its about the others having more i agree. most of the bill screw ups are from store reps which add s*** without people knowing just so they can make commission. you think im defending cellular compaines or something, im not. but i am aware that there is the existence of 'problem' customers just like problem reps and managers which is where good customers suffer. the people that were dropped i doubt is from anything moderate, calls once a month, right around when their bill is generated is an expected call. these people were no doubtingly calling in more than once a week and requesting credits and escalating, irregardless of their own usage.
oh and just cause you wanted how many is too many
Off-net Usage: If your minutes of use (including unlimited services) on other carrier networks ("off-net usage") during any two consecutive months exceeds your off-net usage allowance, Cingular may at its option terminate your service, deny your continued use of other carriers' coverage, or change your plan to one imposing usage charges for off-net usage. Your off-net usage allowance is equal to the lesser of 750 minutes or 40% of the Anytime Minutes included with your plan. Cingular will provide notice that it intends to take any of the above actions, and you may terminate the agreement.
http://www.wireless.att....ce/legal/plan-terms.jsp

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By bersekgamer

edited Jul 10, 2007 - 1:38 PM

You know, I do have to agree with you a little. I'm no fan of AT&T or Sprint (T-Mobile wins JD Power awards for a reason), but some of these subscribers that they canceled (not the military people mind you) did go excessive. According to a Fox News article, the combined 1200 called the company over 40000 times A MONTH! You pay for customer service, but you don't pay for the right to harass them. In addition, according to the article some of the "cancellations involved customers who repeatedly asked for information about other people's accounts". It is perfectly reasonable for a cell company to think it necessary to cancel subscribers who are asking for information that they don't even have the right to access. I would never go with Sprint because of the soldiers, but they did have reasonable cause to cancel the others.

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By twboyd

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 6:04 PM

I'll agree with you that there are ignorant people that will call the cell phone company likely trying to get out of their bill, and I would guess that everyone should actually read the entire fineprint of their contract with their cell phone company, to be able to argue with their bill or complain about their coverage. I left cingular because I didn't want to deal with minute..period. I recommend it of anyone, if more people would switch to these providors who have unlimited plan, like CellularSouth, or even cricket if you don't have much to spend on a cell phone bill, maybe these other cell phone companies would come to grips that it is inevitable that people don't want to deal with minutes and when and where they can make a phone call. I think if more companies would get this idea in their heads, they would have a monopoly in the market.

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By AaronDobbins

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 3:56 PM

Because they lock you into committing for two years, they should be committed for the duration of that contract as well. If you buy a $300 phone that only works on their network and they drop you from your normal usage, that is hardly fair to the customer.

"why should a provider have to pay you an early termination fee for not letting you use the service they provide?"

Because you are PAYING for the service there chief. They are not providing charity and they are making money from you using the service. Get a grip. Your cab analogy makes no sense at all...I'm not saying verizon has to pay you for not using verizon or at&t pays you for not using them. What I am saying is if you are locked in for two years, the contract should be mutually binding.

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By dlab21

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 4:57 PM

you are paying for your current service (actually most times billed in advance so would get a credit balance at the end of service) you haven't pre-paid for the two years. most phones don't only work on a single network, and if you don't like the terms and conditions on the provider don't agree to them, you know most offer a pay as you go option as well right?

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By smarterthanyou

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 8:55 PM

GSM phones are the only ones that work on other carrier's phone service (provided you can get a sim unlock code). CDMA and TDMA phones are always locked to a specific carrier. For example, it's not possible to use a Sprint phone with Verizon or vice versa.

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By dlab21

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 11:18 PM

back in 2001 gsm covered 70% of the world usage. at&t used to offer tdma coverage much like the gsm provider here in Canada (rogers) but both are ceasing to as it is a dying technology. all 3g and 4g technology is based off of gsm technology primarily. i think currently its about 80% or higher including gsm, 3g and developing 4g, if people chose to purchase a phone from a carrier then they should have no expectation of it working on another carriers system, regardless of how their service is ended and how much they paid for the device.

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By smarterthanyou

posted Jul 10, 2007 - 9:57 PM

Actually, 3G technology is based on wide band CDMA and 4G technology is currently based on WiMAX.

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By VikingBlade

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 3:08 PM

"Does it say in a Sprint contract (or any other provider for that fact) that THEY can drop YOU at any time?"
Yes, they all say that...

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By AaronDobbins

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 3:58 PM

Ah, I never read my contract so I was just asking the question. Its still crappy either way though. If you get free roaming its not your fault if you are in a location that sucks. If they don't like it, don't offer free roaming, or it should say in more plain language than buried in a contract that if you abuse the roaming you lose your service.

So if you are constantly in the roaming area or your service sucks can you terminate early? Doubtful without paying a fee. Customer hosed again.

My point about being out the money for the phone still holds true. The customer always gets hosed.

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By hiyoag

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 2:58 PM

Why not? It works for the insurance industry.

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By VikingBlade

edited Jul 9, 2007 - 3:04 PM

Is this actually new? I thought Sprint would always cancel your service if you roamed for the majority of your minutes. It's actually one of the ways popularly mentioned to cancel service without paying the ETF.

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By streryan

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 2:18 PM

And I thought Sprint couldn't get any worse.....

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By deminicus

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 2:06 PM

and they wonder why they are doing badly. who thought of this brilliant idea? probably someone who won multiple darwin awards.

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By Maymne

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 6:11 PM

You ARE aware that one of the requirements for eligibility for winning a Darwin award is removing yourself from the gene pool, correct...? Which generally tends to be a one time thing... Not hampering your ability to add to the gene pool, but completely removing yourself, thereby improving it...

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By ogman

posted Jul 9, 2007 - 2:02 PM

What is it with CEOs these days? Every time we turn around one of these overpaid fratboys is sticking one foot in his mouth and the other up his customers a$$es. These idiots are worse than politicians, especially considering the difference in pay.

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By meb

posted Jul 10, 2007 - 9:12 AM

Pffft... you Yankies don't know how lucky you got it.

Visit Australia and see what a monopoly can do to telecommunications.

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