Actually Kerio Personal Firewall will continue thanks to Sunbelt Software. They have acquired this great firewall. So While Sygate Personal and Pro Firewall will discontinue Kerio Personal Firewall will continue.

See this article.

http://www.betanews.com/...nal_Firewall/1133468323

I'm keeping the version of Sygate as it is. I stopped using Norton products, with the exception of the older Ghost program, a long time ago.

chris

And just in case you don't have the links:

http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/

http://www.microsoft.com...e/software/default.mspx

I have 30 or more computers including five new and worthless Dells which came with Norton Internet Security. Norton has become such an intrusive nightmare, that I am systematically removing it from each computer and installing Microsoft's anticipated partner Etrust EZanitvirus which is free for a year with each individual email address you give them. Upon installation, it immeadiately detected viruses ignored by Norton. Combined with Microsofts free Beta Spyware program, I would encourage anyone with Symantec stock to bail quickly. Visit your stock ticker and you can see them falling even as I type.

I got my Sony VAIO A Series notebook preinstalled with Symantec stuff. I just don't get it why Sony put that crap inside this otherwise super machine! I tried to deinstall it, but it was so deeply hidden in the registry, that it was really difficult to get rid of it! It slowed down the whole machine, had errors and so on. Still I dont know if I got rid of it completely. I suggest everybody should protest and not use their software untill they do something substantial with it.

While you're at it, dump the Sony.

http://boycottsony.us

Hey - FWIW, it seems up again.

I wonder what V-Com is going to use for it's firewall in SystemSuite now?

First of them all this again show ya what happens when big companies buy out the smaller ones. I have work on many computers that had Norton anti-virus and firewall for protection the conclusion, total junk. Lots of those computers had viruses or have been hack into. Sygate it self is a good firewall and its disappointing to see it go. In fact maybe Norton should consider dumping their garbage firewall and use Sygates. I even feel sorry for the people that use Norton maybe they should sue Symantec for the damages that is done on their computers for failing to do what it said since they have so much money to buy out other companies...lol.

OMG! This entire thread, we all agree, Symantec Sucks! Woo hoo!

I am framing this thread, who wants to celebrate, I am buying...

Wow... they certainly suck. Sygate Personal Firewall (Free OR Pro) was head and shoulders better than the Symantec Personal Firewall, which is a bloated, useless piece of garbage.

If Symantec actually wanted to protect systems, the first thing they'd do is remove their own software, and speed things up substancially.

Something of a tragedy, this.

--- snip snip snip ---

"...Symantec Personal Firewall, which is a bloated, useless piece of garbage."

Should have read:

"Symantec -fill in blank- (software), -deleted- IS a bloated, useless piece of garbage."

Agreed...

Deleting Norton Antivirus off a friends computer increased its speed like 500% - it was sick.

Best part, it was a P4 3.4 - but it took over a minute to open a word document... now, less than a second.

may have been 'cause the active file protection engine was enabled and/or the email spam utility(which can stall or freeze Windows Explorer)...at any rate, Happy Riddance!

I wonder what will happen to Sygate's employees? Are they laid off? Merged into Sygate's other products? Merged with Symantec? They made one hell of a good product and it would be sad to see them gone.

Yet another example of symantec destroying everything they touch. The pricks.

Anyone know where an archived distro is?

Sygate 5.6

Kerio 4.2.2

Kerio 2.1.5

Symantec sucks.

Wow people love to complain.

SO stop whining and use any one of the hundreds of other software or hardware based firewalls. The market is flooded with them and even your OS's built in one has a rdecent firewall. sheesh.

A good thing was tossed in the trash, and we're supposed to say nothing?

Sure there are alternatives, but a waste is a waste. No way around that.

Not like the original developers didn't profit from this.

Also, not as if they couldn't code another free firewall product and sell it again.

It's not a waste, it's good business for Symantec, and good business for the developers of Sygate.

On a different note, for about the cost of Norton Internet Security, you can buy an old PII400 with three NIC's in it and make your own firewall using any of a number of Linux distros, and have a DMZ to boot!

Buggy

There's one category that doesn't benefit from this: the consumers. And seeing as how that's the category I fit into, I don't like it.

Boo on Symantec.

The only Symantec/Norton product I let anywhere near my PC, is the old (pre Powerquest) Ghost, everything else is horrendous.

I find it amazing that a company with products as bad as theirs even has marketshare.

Their corporate products are where they make their marketshare. Their personal products are too bulky, but their name is out there because alot of people see it on their pc's at work.

I use SAV 10.0 at work, and it performs rather well at what it's supposed to do.

Buggy

... as compared to what? Nothing? Yeah it works well, when you don't have anything to compare it to.

SAV 10 runs extremely well compared to the latest version of NOD32, NORTON Antivirus, and avg free (which many people only laud because it is free, again, price always affects a review). I have done many tests on a/vs and speed on my home network and SAV10 ranks right up there with the best of them, beating out the above mentioned ones in scan time.

Anyways, smoothwall can take the place of any firewall they throw out there on the market, it does MUCH MORE than any product, requires a p166 (which is what I run it on), and is extremely flexible

Try Outpost (www.agnitum.com) you will be amazed. Even better than Sygate.

cant beat them? buy tham and destroy them.

this is symantec's business motto right?

bloat-mantec does it again, SYGATE firewall is amazingly good, kill your norton-whatever-firewall and evolve the seagate one

So, axe the product that works and keep the junk that's invasive, bloated and buggy.

Yup - typical Symantec.

No surprises here, Symantec is one of the worst companys in the world & their products (aside from Ghost) a complete waste of time & resources.

R.I.P Sygate Personal Firewall :(

My favourite software firewall of ALL TIME.

I've found downloads for Kerio 4.2.2(911), and Kerio 2.1.5! :D

It's amazing how many people have the Symantec Virus on their computer...Right under their noses...

Symantec products...waste of system resources!!

I stopped using sygate when I heard that suckmantic had aquired it.......doesn't surprise me a bit.

Really?? Well what a HUGE suprise _that_ is! Tsk.

Should say "Users will be given a discounted downgrade path to Symantec's product".

We knew this was going to happen. Symcraptec does this to everything they buy.

Symantec is Satan.

No Symantec is Satan Spawn, GOOGLE! is Satan!

aw, come on! you're trollin'! Name one product damaged, one documented security breach, one single immoral act(such as having sold privacy data w/o consent), one former employee complaining about them, one stock or partner scandal or complaint....
Try and come up with just one single misdeed by Google, come on....

Symantec SUCKS and BLOWS at the same time. the only good product they have is ghost.

Norton firewall is not user friendly.

Isn't the "new" Ghost their "other" purchase of "Partition Magic" maker PowerQuest? Since that purchase, I've been read a lot of complaints that Ghost is bad now.

.. and Ghost isn't even their product!

agreed, for ghost users you guys should try acronis's imaging software it's the best in my opinion... also the lost of sygate is bad, what's the next best firewall? outpost? kerio? or steganos?... nyhow RIP sygate we'll miss you!, actually i'll miss you, now i have to go find another one to keep myself protected hehe

This is very disturbing.

I wouldn't downgrade to Norton Personal Firewall, even if it was FREE.

Symantec is useless software.

I agree w/ JordenPro-- received it for free, promptly removed it.

yea norton is a joke

Symantec's software isn't useless.

You forget that it uses all your resources and slows down your computer.

While I understand Symantec's desire not to lose revenue from one of their other products it would still be nice to see them release a free version of sygate for those who wanted it and then they could promote their crappy $50 firewall as an upgrade for those people so inclined