Toshiba Manufacturing Microsoft Zune

By Ed Oswald, BetaNews

August 25, 2006, 12:42 PM

Zune FCC ImagesA recent FCC filing seems to indicate that the highly anticipated Microsoft Zune music player will be produced by Toshiba, rather than the Redmond company itself. The filing also provided the first concrete evidence of Zune's specifications and wireless capabilities.

According to the documentation, the Zune player (here referred to as the "Toshiba 1089") includes a 30GB hard drive, three-inch TFT LCD, an FM tuner, wireless 802.11 b/g, and USB 2.0 support. Details of Zune's wireless capabilities were also disclosed, including the capability to stream music to up to four other devices.

More specifics on the codenames that have been mentioned in rumors on the device were also provided to the FCC. "Pyxis" now seems to refer to the network on which users of Zune would be able to send and stream content to one another.

"Once your wireless setting is set to on, you will be able to send and receive promotional copies of songs, albums, and playlists from other Pyxis users," the documentation states.

As for "Argo," the term seems to deal with some type of social networking aspect of the player. In the filing, the code-name is mentioned in the "Friend requests" section. Argo seems to make possible the ability to make nearby Zune users friends, as well as sending and receiving requests to become friends.

Microsoft has remained fairly tight lipped about the Zune project, and has yet to offer a release date for the product. It is widely expected, however, that the device would debut in time for the holiday season. Sources indicate the marketing effort has already begun to ramp up.

Previously, sources told BetaNews that promotional efforts would begin in late August, with public demonstrations during the month of September. This would lead up to a possible October launch for the Zune player.

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By StUmBliNgBl0ck

posted Nov 16, 2006 - 1:04 AM

Ok here is the deal i bought a Zune last night from Walmart just to try it out buying something from Walmart does not set anything in stone you can return anything there any ways I was all about the Ipod its a great music player and i think that is one of the best things apple has done in a long time I meen go anywhere and see if you can look around a store and not find something for your Ipod but my point is when i went to Walmart and droped the 249.99 down on the Zune I did it only to test it out and see how many real big changes there was between the Zune and Ipod there really was and after using it for a day im real impressed with MS new toy its going to give Apple a run for its money the FM radio is nice to have when bored of hearing my same old music over and over gives me something to play with also the Zune software makes the transfer of pics video and music fast and easy yes Itunes can do the hole music and photo but when it comes to video on the ipod it lacks plus the Zune battery is sick where if i was using my Ipod I could get only part way done with a movie before my battery was ready for a new charge the Zune allows you to not only finish your movie but still have time to do other stuff sense the battery lasts 12 hours for music and 4 and a hafe using video Ill be honest with every one I love Linux and would ues Linux all the time but there are just some stuff you cant do with out MS so I had to check what i thought would be a very sad joke of an mp3 player made by them but after using it im having A real hard time deciding if I still want to take it back of keep it the sound is great could just be the set of headphones that comes with it but it seems so much more crisp and the screen is so much nicer then the Ipod there are things that every one will hate about it and same for Ipod but not every one can use Linux and not evrey one Can install doom on there Ipod ya know so what MS has doen is made a very nice music player with a great battery and and nice screen and made it easy for people to use also the ugly shell every one is talking about is what in the long run will keep the Zune playing longer then the Ipod the plastic shell is nice and will take agood beating so for once im giving MS hats off for this one.

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By RingMaster

posted Aug 29, 2006 - 10:34 AM

Best move on Microsoft's part ever.

Toshiba makes quality.

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By cranbers

posted Aug 27, 2006 - 9:02 PM

I wonder why they refuse to make any of their own hardware. They have more money then god, so why let a third party make them. I mean they will have to pay Toshiba obviously. I mean are they just simply manufacturing it or did they design it as well?

I have no doubt this thing is going to bomb worse then any other product microsoft came up with. The fact is however with their cash reserves it won't matter. The sad thing is that they can do what they want. Unlimited cash reserves gives you that right.

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By mjm01010101

posted Aug 28, 2006 - 1:04 AM

They have to answer to investors. They don't have unlimited cash, in fact having all that cash on hand makes investors skittish, hence the buyback of the stock recently.

Microsoft could devote money to build the hardware themselves, but why both when there are other companies that can ramp up the logistics needed much quicker, like Toshiba?

As for Toshiba, it's not very sexy, never has been, and that is exactly what Microsoft needed to beat the ipod.

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By templarâ„¢

posted Aug 26, 2006 - 11:57 PM

Look at the main page, they put the Gorillaz pic (taken from iPod video) on Zune's screen. LOL.

I think both MS & Apple won't be too happy when they see that.

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By prndll

posted Aug 26, 2006 - 10:19 PM

The only thing I have against it is the DRM. You can't tell me there will be none....

I really don't see the point to these things but, to each there own.

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By ladylust

posted Aug 26, 2006 - 5:53 PM

Zune will to start eating up IPOD's marketshare very quickly. Has much more to offer and from what i have seen of its OS - its very nice.

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By imafurby

posted Aug 26, 2006 - 5:37 PM

Back to vinyl baby. Or I'll just get a chip implanted in my brain and cut out the middleware.

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By PostDeals

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 5:47 PM

looks butt ugly.

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By IOMO

posted Aug 29, 2006 - 6:17 AM

Agreed it really doesn't look great -could just be the poor quality photos though. Features-wise it sounds pretty good, but if you want most girls (and a lot of guys) to buy it it has to look half-decent.

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By bjmjcgl

edited Aug 26, 2006 - 10:33 PM

Damned straight! Why can't the non-iPod makes produce something that looks good, this looks so old style-wise. Wireless sounds great though (pun intended!)

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By wincement

edited Aug 26, 2006 - 2:26 PM

Are you kidding me? Go back to your cave.

Look at the huge screen. That's all I need to see. I'm not going to buy one, but I don't think they are by any means "ugly."

Sounds more like the immature rantings of a MS troll.

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By crashoverride

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 8:56 PM

Indeed

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By Grazer

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 5:55 PM

Because we know it is how fashionable it looks that counts.

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By wincement

posted Aug 26, 2006 - 3:21 PM

You may have been trying to be sarcastic, but the iPod is proof that your statement is true.

Sad, but true.

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By templarâ„¢

posted Aug 26, 2006 - 11:48 PM

Yeah, sad indeed.

It doesn't help that Apple has been on "hate campaign" against MS. Most Apple fans that I know (incl. my friend) hate whatever MS comes up with; regardless of features.

To them, iPod pwnz Zune. Features don't matter.

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By dn2004

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 5:29 PM

for people who are saying they cant see the zune logo check out
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov...3&native_or_pdf=pdf

then go to page 44/45 in the Test Report

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By extremely well

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 4:02 PM

I've got something better - my 3lbs laptop in my ventilated backpack sending signal to my bluetooth headset. I also carry a 7MP digital camera in that backpack...

Both came in handy in NUMEROUS occasions...

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By wincement

edited Aug 26, 2006 - 3:23 PM

For the price of an MP3 player? Really?

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By TheHark

edited Aug 25, 2006 - 3:12 PM

I question what is touted as an FCC photo with the Zune logo. When I looked at the FCC site the photo did not show a logo.

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By VikingBlade

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 4:00 PM

I don't see one with a logo either. I do notice they used a darker (looks almost black but not quite) in the testing photos.

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By TuRBo888

posted Sep 14, 2006 - 2:04 PM

Could that thing on the back be the logo?

http://www.betanews.com/...w/Zune_FCC_Images/129/3

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By phenomnaruto

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 3:14 PM

Yea im definately getting a zune.

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By Desides

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 3:07 PM

"the Zune player (here referred to as the "Toshiba 1089") includes a 30GB hard drive, three-inch TFT LCD, an FM tuner, wireless 802.11 b/g, and USB 2.0 support. Details of Zune's wireless capabilities were also disclosed, including the capability to stream music to up to four other devices."

Projected battery life: 30 seconds.

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By Floodland

posted Aug 26, 2006 - 1:42 AM

I think you hit the blank. 802.11b/g drain huge amounts of power. Products with bigger bateries(notebooks) often suffer from wifi power drain. Is hard to expect good operating times with this kind of device.
(Hard disk + active screen + 802.11g)^Microsoft_1st_generation=PANIC
Anyway, I have to admit that Micro$oft hardware never dissapointed me... Time will tell

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By TuRBo888

edited Sep 14, 2006 - 2:01 PM

Who says the wi-fi will be on all the time? Most, if not all, the devices with Wi-fi that i've seen have some way of turning it off. But you're right, Microsoft hardware is of pretty good quality and even if Toshiba is manufacturing the Zune, I'm sure microsoft will keep a tight watch on quality control. I've been waiting for an MP3/video player that will be the envy of iPod snobs. Looks like this is it. I'm definitely getting a Zune.

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By Fidelio

posted Aug 26, 2006 - 4:32 PM

Well... The Toshiba Gigabeat S (based on the PMC platform) has received very good reviews, and if this device is being manufactured by Toshiba, I think it is a promise of a very good and reliable device.

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By Grazer

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 5:54 PM

It could turn off most those features when unused and not needed. My cellphone's screen goes off a little after I am done pressing buttons, the USB is not connected it could go into a sleep mode, same with wireless and tuner. Heck, if it has some flash memory in it, even the harddrive wouldn't need to be very active. I notice they also didn't say which direction the USB support was, it could draw power off the USB of a computer it was connected to.

In either case, I wonder how long the battery life will be, and if they'll be user changable...and wow, isn't that more hard drive space than the Xbox 360?

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By The Man

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 4:40 PM

lol

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By Daddy_Spank

posted Aug 26, 2006 - 2:30 PM

Dont you all have wifi in your cellphones by now? I dont hear anyone complaining about that... if you dont like then turn it OFF, better than not having the possility at all... Right??

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By Jordanr05

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 12:55 PM

I for one have had nothing but great experiences with Toshiba products. This seems like a good move on MS's part - quality should be top notch. (IMO).

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