U.S. Gov't Maintains Control of Net

By Ed Oswald, BetaNews

August 16, 2006, 4:47 PM

The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) said Tuesday that it had reached a new agreement with the U.S. Department of Commerce that would technically keep the group under American control through 2011.

Although the initial agreement is for one year, the Commerce Department has the option to extend the agreement by an additional year over the next four years. The agreement would take effect on October 1, the day after the current contract expires. The new agreement is sure to reignite the international debate over control of the Internet.

"In executing this contract the Department of Commerce has confirmed that ICANN is uniquely positioned to perform this function," ICANN president and CEO Dr. Paul Twomey said. "It means that ICANN remains the organization responsible for a range of functions that are vital to the daily operation of the Domain Name System (DNS) and hence the Internet."

Tuesday's agreement seems to solidify the position of the Bush administration that control of the Internet would stay under United States. The fight began last summer when the UN said that the United States must cede at least some control over the Internet.

The International Telecommunications Commission said in September that the UN was ready to take control of the Net. However, hours before a meeting on Internet technologies where the topic was to be discussed, the U.S. signed an agreement with other nations keeping ICANN under its control while opening the door for discussion.

U.S. government officials have repeatedly said they would relinquish control over ICANN, even going as far as holding hearings on the subject of privatization. But it now appears that government control of the body that governs the Internet's domain name servers would last into the foreseeable future.

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By deda

posted Aug 18, 2006 - 1:14 AM

English isn't my native idiom, I'll try my best.
One of the most best thing made by men is the USA Constitution. It's brilliant because it's like a mirror, reflecting the wishes of all men in the world, since Genesis. Since Genesis we fight for freedom; we born fighting by light. I'm not talking about politicals, I'm talking about MEN.

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By 4views1mind

edited Aug 17, 2006 - 8:01 PM

Guys...seriously. This thread has completely been taken off track. Conspiracy theories, domestic spying, political and social issues aside, the USA is still the most technically qualified nation to manage the Internet. If net neutrality ends up not being supported then a significant amount of control will siphon down to a corporate level, however with the majority of backbones in the US it is still US corporations that have the most to gain or lose. Same is such that if departmental control is taken from the US government, they have the most to gain by keeping it and lose by losing it. The UN has proven its over all incompetence time and again, but that aside, any organization that would permit input from countries like china, that seem only satisfied to censer the lives of all people, such a switch can not be permitted. The situation is delicate, however the US government only lasts 4-8 years which I would guess is a undertone to the yearly renewal idea. This is definitely a wait and see situation.

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By tipsyboy

posted Aug 17, 2006 - 3:27 PM

It's not ICANN or any other technically responsible group that controls anything like the so-called "internet". It's not even commercial groups who control it. The real control is in those hands who control the ideas in the heads of human being - those who initiate the thoughts and ideas, those who make the rules of human worths. Governments just follow these and make their laws and politics accordingly. So, in reality, it doesn't really matter which national or international government has "control". It's philosophy that has always ruled mankind - socialists, evolutionists, liberals, constitutionalists, communists, democrats, nazis, whatever name you may name, they all rely on man's eagerness and hunger for the better and deceive the masses in believing that their ideas are able to change human nature. So this can only be about the maximum win of money, the maximum ego-win, anyway.

Do you really think any nation on this planet is better than the other? Poor belief, proved wrong by thousands of years of human history.

Trust whomever you want, whatever side you want, whatever nation or institution you want - but be as surely prepared for disillusion, disappointment and letdown as for the next winter.

So - who cares about this news . . . anyway . . .

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By keithws

edited Aug 17, 2006 - 11:49 AM

I'd rather see an International group of scientists leading the Internet, like a specially formed, independent group at CERN. I'd trust a group of scientists much more so than a group of politicians.

Ultimately, we need to create a new Domain Name Service. The ICANNs power is mostly derived from the hierarchical structure of the original 70s technology behind our current DNS system.

For those who don't fear the dissemination of ALL knowledge, here is some further reading: http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/notes.html

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By tipsyboy

edited Aug 17, 2006 - 3:15 PM

Scientists are part of the thought "makers" of today, who have laid the hugest assembly of deadly weapons ever in the hands of mankind - so, trust them who wants, not me.

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By foxfyre

posted Aug 17, 2006 - 1:48 PM

Yeah, scientists aren't political at all...

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By Dmdfreak

posted Aug 17, 2006 - 10:35 AM

Simply put, if the other countries don't like who has control of the internet, let them make their own and see what happens. We made it, we ran it, it's ours. We ALLOW you other countries to be a part of it. What rights do you have for even TRYING to take control? If the internet was land, this would be called a war.

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By xcalcoder

posted Aug 17, 2006 - 12:45 AM

why is there still even a UN to interfere with anything? isn't it widely known the UN has done nothing right --- completely incompetent.. it would destroy the internet

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By techie_G33k

posted Aug 16, 2006 - 9:35 PM

It's ran well this long under US control, why fight for it? Cause there jealous? I mean we don't disseminate on what country your in, but if some one else does who the hell knows what will happen? Take something everyone uses day-to-day and turn it into a way to tax...net neutrality goes out the window also.

I live in the US, but if the Europe or Asia made it first and it has been like it has I'd say keep it and keep it going :)

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By ^M^

posted Aug 17, 2006 - 4:18 AM

Net neutrality doesn't relate to internet supervision.
It's a ISP matter, so it is decided at a country level.
In Europe there is no net neutrality debate, it just seems plain logical to us that any content must be carried equaly.
But the competition between ISP is furious (for instance there must be at least 5 high speed offer in any city in France).

And if you want to know why many country want an international supervision, it's because they mistrust the US Governement.
They fear It has it own agenda, they fear that it will make something stupid because a stupid lobby has thrown enough money ...
There is a widespread distrust of USA and I think it deserves a lot better response than "They're jealous".

My two cents. :)

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By aredo

edited Aug 17, 2006 - 5:41 AM

The EU is the new URSS. Socialists neo-communist '68s people are so anti-USA and anti-Right Wing that would do anything to attack the US.
The problem lies within the EU which is driven by the worst burocrats in history, on par with Nazis, which the socialists are cousins of.
These dangerous guys are always claiming silly things like "peace and love" since the '60s to fool a gullable population into believing what they want in order to get more powerful. The war in Iraq, France and Germany were with China and the muslim regimes in order to protect their own money interest in the area, weapons and oil. And what did they do ? They attacked the Bush Administration telling that it was the Bush family that had oil interests in the area.. and the UN did even worse with Annan involved in dirty money flowing...

So, no thanks, giving Internet control to these people controlling the EU and the UN would be the same as giving it to China and its communistic regime or directly to muslim terrorists and their regimes.

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By ^M^

posted Aug 17, 2006 - 7:29 AM

Thank you for making my point.

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By minus_seven_fold

posted Aug 16, 2006 - 7:53 PM

Why for only 5 more years, than what??

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By PC Rat

posted Aug 16, 2006 - 7:40 PM

...

If the Socialists get hold of the Internet
get ready for taxes !

Best that U.S. retains control.

...

The Computer Rodent

...

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By drumcat

posted Aug 16, 2006 - 5:54 PM

The USA made the thing... even with all its flaws, that's better than letting an international body hold the thing.

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By Noremacam

posted Aug 16, 2006 - 7:09 PM

The internet was created in the US anyways. It's the US's to decide to keep control of.

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By morriscox

edited Aug 17, 2006 - 8:53 PM

[sarcastic post snipped]

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By Tenoq

posted Aug 16, 2006 - 8:43 PM

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.

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By Desides

posted Aug 16, 2006 - 11:04 PM

Why? Because that comment promotes the concept of ownership based on creation?

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By iamtux

edited Aug 16, 2006 - 11:54 PM

A valid point. The US created it, runs it and should retain control of it. I'm not sure I'd trust the UN or any other country controlling it.

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By dixon_pete

edited Aug 17, 2006 - 12:29 AM

Uh guys, of all the governments in the world right now you really think the US and its present administration should be at the top of that list? The neocons would love to record and data mine every bit of information. They have a proven record of this. Why make their lives any easier?

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By aredo

edited Aug 17, 2006 - 11:10 AM

Actually the socialists, Left Wing, Clinton and Kennedy clans and their worldwide groups are the ones in control of our society thru schools, universities, Hollywood movies, Tv networks, news, justice and judges and lawyers and so on. It took them over 30 years to get control over all these key places to follow the rules of a good communist as they were claiming in the '60s with the infamous '68 revolution, the China communistic regime is following their advices and is destroying our countries making a fool of chinese people that really think to be free and richer while in reality they are not just as much poor and in no democracy as before but they are now enslaved to be used as cheap employees to destroy Western economies along with Japan/Taiwan and South Korea in the East.

This is the truth that the Left Wing doesn't want people to understand. The use of the media and the news by the Left Wing during the last 30 years along with that of the justice (to save criminals and terrorists) and schools/universities has created a society that enjoys to be enslaved with noglobal criminals using drugs to enslave even more people and not allowing true democracy, not allowing the Right Wing to do anything to this wrong society model they created during the last 30 years.

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By elyl

posted Aug 17, 2006 - 3:32 PM

Laughable. Who said right-wing conspiracy theorist crackpots don't exist?

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By aredo

posted Aug 17, 2006 - 4:36 PM

It's a very old, let's say ancient, trick of Left Wing supporters to try to debunk the truth by saying that that makes them laugh and it's just silly and so on.
You neo-commies leaders can't come up with any new tricks ? Still using the same ancient tactics ? Oh well...

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By morriscox

posted Aug 17, 2006 - 5:26 PM

Please take your meds. Please.

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By aredo

posted Aug 17, 2006 - 7:45 PM

You Left Wing people are always on drugs and want to make everyone a drugatic in order to enslave them better while telling that free drugs would mean freedom and joy... the same propaganda used since the '60s to destroy our society and make people actually suffer and becoming a threat to others despite the fact that they can't realize that.

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By morriscox

posted Aug 17, 2006 - 8:50 PM

Wow. You actually take yourself seriously. Do you even know what a *plunk* is?

Psst. The government is secretly reading everything that you post on this website. You might want to avoid this place for now. I'll send you an email when it's safe to come back. The secret password is "Luser".

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By aredo

posted Aug 18, 2006 - 3:26 AM

The pathetic thing is that you really think to look smart by insulting and trying to make a fool of others you don't agree with.

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By morriscox

posted Aug 18, 2006 - 3:54 PM

I'm not trying to look smart. I just don't like you and the rhetoric that you are spewing. You make a bunch of idiotic comments and then expect us to take them seriously.

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By 4views1mind

posted Aug 19, 2006 - 1:13 AM

i have to agree with you there. the whole left bs has nothing to do with this. attn all psycho-nazis spew you psychobabble elswhere.

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By MMPD

posted Aug 16, 2006 - 6:48 PM

agreed

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By RedBoar

posted Aug 16, 2006 - 4:52 PM

2011 is year before last year of Mayan calendar - could there be a connection? :p

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By Fickleflame

posted Aug 16, 2006 - 7:47 PM

Nah, 2011 or 3011AD. Doesn't matter, we'll all "still" going to die horrible deaths.

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By Jwec

posted Aug 17, 2006 - 8:16 AM

Yep, global warming will kill us. America won't change it's ways. We are doomed might as well fight over the oil we have left.... *sighs* at least we'll have economic stability for like 20 years. F*** I hate being young.

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