Windows Vista, IE7 Betas Leak to Web

By Nate Mook, BetaNews

July 28, 2005, 12:10 PM

UPDATED Windows Vista Beta 1Less than 24 hours after Microsoft announced the release of Windows Vista Beta 1 and Internet Explorer 7 Beta 1 to testers and MSDN subscribers, both betas have leaked to Internet sites and newsgroups along with a crack for Windows Product Activation, according to BetaNews sources.

The Vista download weighs in at close to 2.5GB, but the operating system's heft did not keep the pirates away. The next-generation Windows beta likely uses the same activation technology found in Windows XP, which was compromised long ago.

Such a leak is not that surprising considering over 10,000 beta testers were included in the first round of testing alone. Those numbers do not count MSDN subscribers who were also given access to the Beta 1 bits.

Alpha builds of the operating system, then code-named Longhorn, have frequently leaked from Microsoft labs during development. And Microsoft encountered the same problems with Windows Whistler, which later became Windows XP.

Internet Explorer 7 Beta 1, which is available within Windows Vista and on its own, requires Windows Genuine Advantage verification to install, sources said. Microsoft opted not to make the first beta publicly available, and has not set a timeline for the final release of its long-awaited new Web browser.

"Windows Vista Beta 1 is a very early build designed specifically for software developers and IT professionals to begin testing for the Windows Vista platform," a Microsoft spokesperson told BetaNews.

"While we understand that the industry is excited about the release of the first Windows Vista Beta, we do not recommend downloading the code on a production machine unless you are a participant in one of the above Microsoft programs as it is designed for a very specific technical audience."

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By ym2ponline

edited Apr 21, 2006 - 5:13 AM

جزاك الله خيرا

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By irdepesca572

posted Jul 17, 2006 - 3:25 PM

Wow, it has come a long way.

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By noilanoi

edited Jun 7, 2006 - 7:08 PM

windows vista

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By leonponteen

edited Mar 27, 2006 - 6:01 PM

dont try to install IE7 it doesnt connect to your internet propeply

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By mollycoddel2004

edited Feb 16, 2006 - 8:11 AM

Hello. Internet Explorer 7, beta 2 has now been released and is available from the microsoft website. Anyone can download it but only Genuine users can install it.

Thanks - David.

email me @ davidhutchinson_1@msn.com for info.

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By compman

edited Feb 8, 2006 - 7:28 PM

doze any body know where to get a non beta vershion of windows vist

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By siddharthagandhi

edited Jan 22, 2006 - 11:49 AM

Which one from bittorrent should i get, can u email me the torrent at

siddharthagandhi211@gmail.com

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By SHIRA_2012@HOTMAIL.COM

edited Jan 19, 2006 - 8:31 PM

PARA Q SIRVE Y DATOS BIBLIOGRAFICOS

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By manmiths

edited Dec 7, 2005 - 11:41 AM

Hello !
Does anyone knowes where can i get the copy of Windows Vista ?

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By compman

edited Feb 8, 2006 - 6:29 PM

yes mate you can get windows vista from a torrent just download a program cold bitlord then serch the bitlord serch interface and you will find it have fun

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By DeadMan1234

posted Jan 2, 2006 - 6:38 PM

where can i download windows vista from

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By azzkikrhonda92

edited Dec 21, 2005 - 11:58 PM

i got a copy of bit torrents works great! i love it!

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By gracz

edited Dec 3, 2005 - 5:18 PM

csak, i want

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By mahdiamanvand

edited Nov 26, 2005 - 11:30 PM

i want this soft ware

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By D@rk

posted Sep 9, 2005 - 4:46 PM

I am looking for the other parts, has left in the 8, if somebody knows where to find them, I will thank for much.

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By D@rk

edited Sep 9, 2005 - 4:42 PM

It seems that they had problems and the connection no longer is available

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By zeel

edited Sep 6, 2005 - 7:03 AM

nothing

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By jamal2005

edited Aug 26, 2005 - 12:43 PM

I need to download windows vista beta version form internet

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By egypttiger

edited Aug 9, 2005 - 9:33 AM

how can i download that windows from internet

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By qwertyu

edited Aug 11, 2005 - 1:32 PM

info windows vista - longhorn http://www.windows-vista.host.sk

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By mafomodo

edited Aug 4, 2005 - 10:21 AM

whow can i download windows vista fron the interneet

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By DeadMan1234

edited Jan 2, 2006 - 6:36 PM

where can i download windows vista from

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By tiborv

edited Aug 4, 2005 - 2:37 AM

Hello !
Does anyone knowes where can i get the copy of Windows Vista ?
Thanks

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By kalokohan

edited Aug 7, 2005 - 2:03 PM

anyone can download windows vista at "http://www.30im.com/post.asp?num=-475808957" and IE v7 can be downloaded at "http://www.novawarez.com/viewtopic.php?t=70"

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By mxnxmnxxx

edited Aug 1, 2005 - 1:53 PM

pls

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By PhoenixPath

posted Jul 31, 2005 - 8:06 PM

Not bad, actually. Took IE7 for a test-drive. Aside from noticing all the glaring ads I haven't had to look at sicne Firefox came out, it did pretty well. The tabs acted almost exactly liek they do in FF.

Didn't see a "reload" button. Favorites bar took about 3 seconds to figure out (basically it's the old 'links' bar...not "Favorites"..)

*shrug*

If we can get a free ad=blocking add-on, I'll use it.

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By the_evil_dog

edited Aug 6, 2005 - 3:47 PM

Where did you receive the download because I am very greedy to try it?

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By djk

posted Jul 31, 2005 - 5:45 PM

dumb question here, does this vista beta have a time expire thing like xp betas did? if so, how long does it last?

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By Ronnie1055

posted Jul 30, 2005 - 6:40 PM

I downloaded and tried it for a couple of hours... yeah... I know.. a real test, huh.

It really didn't seem too bad and my tools bars all showed up and worked.

The only issue I found a little strange was it wouldn't show me all my favorites... there wasn't a scroll option... or if there was... I couldn't find it.

I know this is beta... and not bad for a first run... it did seem a little slower than IE6 and is a little awkward at first... but not bad.

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By gawd21

posted Jul 30, 2005 - 7:31 PM

I am just use to FF maybe, but I didn't like it at all and felt it was just a bad overlay to the IE6. IMO I wasn't very happy with the layout either and I know it's beta, but unless they change the whole thing to something a little more useful I won't be using it. I didn't like the whole damn thing and if you want to flame me for it then go ahead it shows that you didn't read this. This is my opinion about the beta 1 of IE 7.

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By cntower

edited Sep 8, 2006 - 5:11 AM

Well if the new IE7 is anything like IE 6 then it is just more crap from microsoft as far as I'm concerned. I have had more headaches trying to design my webpages around IE's quirks than anything else. Can you tell I'm a Firefox fan? IE is completely useless from what I've seen thus far. Microsoft has so many resources at theur disposal, it's a shame they don't make something really great. Oh well c'est la vie.

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By wincement

posted Jul 31, 2005 - 12:15 AM

You suck! You must be stupid! Are you a retard? All you MS-haters are alike! *babble* *babble* *dribble*

(I'm joking) :-p

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By gawd21

posted Jul 31, 2005 - 1:13 AM

I know you are joking. For some reason I expected you to type something like this. LOL

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By wincement

edited Jul 31, 2005 - 2:03 PM

me? o_0

lol

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By gawd21

posted Aug 1, 2005 - 2:21 AM

Well if it wasn't you then it would be some @s*hole that thought he was really smart, yet still couldn't figure out how to set the clock on his OLD a** VCR. LOL

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By pmeswani

posted Jul 30, 2005 - 4:37 PM

Yahoo Mail doesn't work with IE7 as Yahoo complains that it's mail is not optimized for IE7. I appreciate that this is beta...but does anyone know of a workaround?

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By akadirekici

edited Jul 30, 2005 - 3:13 PM

windows wista link

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By nightops

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 4:00 PM

Ok, I had to give it a shot. What's the point of the MSDN if you don't use it? After rebooting I fired it up... Nothing special here. The look/feel of it is just off. It's a beta, so what can you really expect? Nothing revolutionary. The tabs really aren't 'obvious' enough for n00bs. The address bar (as several have already stated) needs to be thrown under the tabs...or at least customizable. Basically, make it into FireFox/Opera. I'll be interested to see how it works with the Aero UI. For now, it's just a novelty. Handles RSS fine. Not too shabby, not not solid enough to switch from Opera.

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By OfficialTester

edited Jul 29, 2005 - 11:49 AM

All (or most anyhow) of you should hold your judgements until you know facts.

1) IE7 isn't public, so stop whining. It was released to a select number of us that do real testing and bug reports to try to identify problems that can be hopefully resolved BEFORE it goes public. Leaked copies are not official public releases.

2) About half of the "bloated 2.5GB OS" is just drivers. Lots of them. Ever tried to evaluate an OS with no mass storage driver, network driver, video driver??? Not much fun. I APPLAUD them for including them, it's makes for a much better beta experience. Then I don't have to waste my time calling all the manufactures and asking for their beta drivers.

Postive news:
It boots very fast, a good experience thus far.
Your toolbars are likely being nuked as part of the anti-spyware efforts built in. How many crap toolbars have you had installed that you didn't want? 1 is too many. I'm sure they wouldn't permanently disable real toolbars, they'd be sued in a New York minute.
Fact: It's beta, stuff won't work. That's the whole point of a beta program... find & try to fix fast.
Cheers.

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By gawd21

edited Jul 29, 2005 - 12:06 PM

If you have ever beta tested anything from MS then you would know that every thing is ALWAYS larger after the beta is over. They have to include all of the extras and all of those drivers. And yes it will be larger than is needs to be, as always. And for those of you that will start crying that I said this I have said many times how to many versions of Linux are just to damn bloated (Red Hat with over a 3 gig install).

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By wincement

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 1:44 PM

You're right, it will be bigger per version, but this beta includes both normal and server versions AND 32-bit and 64-bit versions for each.

The 2.5GB that has to be downloaded is an installation for 4 OS's. It will be smaller in the final release when it only has one version.

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By rustik_one

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 9:52 AM

Official and "unoffical" beta testers beware: If you use(d) Trillian Multi-Messenger, IE7b1 breaks it, though no doubt Cerulean Studios (aka Trillian's authors) will fix this when IE7 goes public... unless it's just a beta bug in this release of IE7.

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By smith288

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 1:09 PM

Just rename the msn.dll in the plugin's folder for the time being. (make sure Trillian is not started yet)

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By kingkong316

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 11:46 AM

Yes it does break it with verizon 3.0 pro. However with 2.0 Pro there isn't an issue. So you can use Trillian 2.0 or IE7B1 your choice.

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By adimoga

edited Jul 29, 2005 - 2:14 AM

www.ironwall.ro if they need to protect their hard work...

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By Maxwolf

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 9:35 AM

Yeah that fancy EXE wrapper will stop anything! [/sarcasm]

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By buckeyenwv

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 12:00 AM

Just downloaded it and has a long way to go but has a smooth feel to it so far. The stop and refresh button are combined near the address bar

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By wincement

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 10:51 PM

Where'd the STOP and REFRESH buttons go???

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By smith288

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 1:10 PM

TO the right of the URL box. THey are in the same spot. When your browser is loading a page, its a stop button. When done, its a refresh.

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By wincement

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 1:46 PM

oh lol

thanks... I need to play with stuff more.

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By GoodThings2Life

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 10:24 AM

On the toolbar, where they belong is my guess... Perhaps the install moved your toolbars around by mistake. I am sure you can drag things around with the | bar on the left side of a menu... and/or right click and customize it.

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By Firef0x

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 12:10 AM

I wasnt able to download from there.. the download link there redirects me to the IE blog...

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By AthleticLatino

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 6:31 PM

Was able to download it off this site:
http://www.freedownloads...nternet-Explorer-7-beta

Testing it our now.

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By gawd21

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 6:35 PM

I didn't like the layout but it works for the most part, but keep in mind it is a closed beta still.

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By AthleticLatino

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 7:01 PM

Agreed. The additional functionaliy is welcome but the gui needs some polish (as expected in a beta). I hope that they make the toolbars dockable though in the final release. Hate to be stuck with the current layout. :)

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By heat_fan1

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 4:19 PM

Well, I downloaded it. It looks pretty good, too. The RSS feed thing is pretty good. I've never done RSS feeds, but since it's built in, why not?! The Print Preview feature is pretty nice and it's nice to know that I won't have to worry about a 6 page article I just printed missing the last two words on every line. Doh! The tabbed browsing is nicely integrated, although nothing too special there. And the address bar being on top is kind of odd and will take a bit to get used to. Overall, I'd say the RSS thingie is the coolest new feature.

Since someone mentioned it, I just noticed that Antispyware now doesn't expire until 12/31, delayed from the July original expiration date. Looks to me like the final release might be delayed quite a bit, although that may be old news.

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By x-ray

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 4:10 PM

LEAK ME !

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By whyldman

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 3:44 PM

Microsoft WANTS IT TO LEAK!!!!! By saying they don't want it to leak, it leaks faster!!!!

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By Slavic

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 3:41 PM

As I have seen here and on other boards (e.g. http://www.winbeta.org/f...ndex.php?showtopic=7608 ), IE7 Beta 1 has some problems with Windowsupdate. As results, "voluntary testers" will have difficulties in access to next fixes, which MS has to issue ASAP. I suppose that MS's decision about closed test was right: this beta is still very raw and public access to it could result a negative opinion of future potential users. I will wait at least until Beta 2 where some essential improvements are expected.

P.S. Compare with MS Antispyware: it was gone to public beta in relatively stable condition, much better than IE7 now.

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By Adrian79

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 12:18 AM

ms antispyware...., reason for it being "stable" was because they just added "ms" to something already stable by "giant" lol

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By Metshrine

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 3:43 PM

Exactly, all this is going to do is give the firefox and opera trolls more bait to bash IE/MS with. I am sorry, but you cannot judge a final browser based on its first beta (which shouldnt be public anyways).

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By Maxwolf

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 9:45 AM

I second that, not even finished yet.

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By sophist_dreams

edited Jul 28, 2005 - 7:58 PM

IE 7 Beta 1 notes:

There is no improvement in page load times; at least none that the average user would be able to tell by using the browser. In fact, IE 7 Beta will lag when loading certain pages, such as betanews and Windows Update. Of course not much can be expected out of the first Beta of a browser that is still under development.

A side-by-side comparison of IE 7 Beta memory usage and Firefox 1.0.6 memory usage shows that IE 7 Beta uses almost 20MB more memory to load the same webpage.

IE7 nukes Google, Yahoo! search
By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
Published Thursday 28th July 2005 21:46 GMT
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Microsoft's Internet Explorer 7 went on a limited beta release today and contains a nasty surprise for some users.

Users with search toolbars from Yahoo! and Google have discovered that these vanish. Other third-party toolbars designed to block pop-ups or aid with form filling appear to be working normally, according to reports from Reg readers.

IE7 integrates search into the browser, but the only option is Microsoft's own MSN Search. There are sound compatibility reasons for Microsoft disabling third-party toolbars in an early cut of the software. The beta is only available to Vista beta testers, and is available either as part of Vista itself or as a download for Windows XP Service 2, and affects only a few thousand people.

But it does raise ominous echoes of Microsoft previous tactics of foreclosing competition by hiding the alternatives available to users. For anti-competive reasons Microsoft is unlikely to risk such a move in the finished product. We'll have to see.

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By Maxwolf

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 9:49 AM

Blah, stop being a troll! The toolbars are probably disabled from loading because IE7 has code changes that might make those "awesome" toolbars of yours unstable and/or useless. Might have something to do with the code that handles how windows are displayed since the browser now supports tabs. Toolbars are a dime a dozen and I would not freak out if they did not work.

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By Morsel

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 3:20 PM

Anywhere I can download it? ;-) BAH!

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By Kramy

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 2:56 PM

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to why they gave it to so many beta testers?

Methinks they want lots of people to try it.

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By gawd21

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 2:42 PM

I for one don't see any reason to spend the time and money to upgrade to this BLOATED OS while XP still functions fine and I have Ubuntu as well. Why waist the time, space, and money on this revamped XP that will just bring out a new line of flaws and bugs costing billions?

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By cntower

posted Sep 8, 2006 - 5:24 AM

Thank you gawd21. Well said. Bloated is an understatement. I guess microsoft is getting dazzled by all its pretty buttons and forgetting about functionality. What good are these gargantuan OS if they don't work fast and efficiently? But that's the problem with a near monopoly like microsoft has, it seems they stop trying because they don't have to. IE was a complete disaster imho. And well, we're all kind of stuck with Windows unfortunately.

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By wincement

posted Jul 30, 2005 - 6:32 PM

I just noticed you said you have XP and Ubuntu. That's exactly what I have lol.

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By DigitalSin

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 3:16 PM

Do you just spend your whole life trolling and flaming?

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By Metshrine

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 3:24 PM

For real dude, get a life, if your not going to contribute anything useful to this site, please do not post.

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By gawd21

edited Jul 28, 2005 - 4:00 PM

Who is flaming who? I was on the topic of Vista and neither of you were. If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it, and get a life.

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By DigitalSin

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 4:53 PM

Nothing you posted was based on any kind of knowledge. It was just another one of your typical negative crap rants that "waist" space. Talk about bloating something.

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By gawd21

edited Jul 28, 2005 - 5:08 PM

Oh you mean like the stuff you have been posting for years? Yeah do a Google search on your name with BetaNews and you will find tons and tons of the same thing. I posted my opinion about an OS that is 2.5gigs and called it bloated and you got offended. Now if I was posting something as bad as you are acting like then a MOD would rate it a -1 or I would have been kicked. You really should look at yourself before you flame others.

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By Banquo

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 9:50 PM

Oh please, in a day where 300GB hard drives are common 2.5GB is a HUGE "waist" of space. Get real, what did you think it was going to be the same size as Windows 95? By the way, the final product is not going to be that big genius. The beta contains lots of debugging stuff and other things that won't be in the final, and I think it is also both the 64 and 32 bit versions. Anyway, get over it.

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By gawd21

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 10:48 PM

No it won't be 2.5 gigs it will be larger as all MS products have been. Yeah 300 gigs with only 280 gig usable then you have a 2.5 gig or larger OS that has to use tons of Ram and most of your CPU cycles just to run and then everything you do will not run well unless you go out and buy the newest hardware. Get a grip and back the blank off.

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By Banquo

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 11:56 PM

Sorry but you're an idiot. If your computer sucks then don't buy it. Get it? YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY WINDOWS VISTA!! That doesn't matter to you though you just want to troll and cry and whine about it. Give it a rest and go away, go find an anti-MS forum to whine on. You obviously have nothing to contribute here.

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By tipsyboy

edited Jul 29, 2005 - 1:57 AM

"Idiot"?!
Is that your basis of discussion - ?!

"Go away", too.

Nice people living in this world nowadays.

So go ahead and start building the new concentration camps for "idiots" who anger you with their "idiotic" being.

bah - you are the one! I bet "technological progress" is one of your most used words.

"Yesterday we were standing at the brink of the abyss. Today we progressed one step ahead."

Thanx to people like you....

"Pro 27:22 If thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his folly depart from him."
"Pro 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes; but he that is wise hearkeneth unto counsel."

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By Banquo

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 4:06 AM

Yes, trolls are idiots. Mindlessly bashing MS in a thread about Windows or some other product is trolling. No I won't go away, but the idiot camp you mentioned is well nearing completion. Should be up and running soon.

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By Maxwolf

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 9:52 AM

The idiot camp thing made me laugh out loud.

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By fewt

edited Jul 29, 2005 - 7:59 AM

Are those that bash everything but MS trolls as well? Yes. Who's mindlessly bashing MS? Perhaps those calling them trolls are mindlessly accepting their uninformed opinions as fact and they are the real trolls.

Yes, you fell into the troll catagory with your post, as does every single person posting on this site depending on the personal views of whomever is reading at the time.

'nuff said

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By gawd21

edited Jul 29, 2005 - 1:53 AM

I am not Anti MS you are a little child on your mom's and dad's computer so go away. I was stating my opinion about how it's not worth it to ME not you or anyone else in the damn world stop flaming me because your life sucks so bad that you have to run your mouth to people on the internet. I started my whole post out at "I for one" that means ME not you or anyone else! Grow up and leave me along.

EDIT: I use WinXP Pro and Ubuntu, so how is that anti MS?

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By Banquo

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 4:10 AM

You haven't even used it, it's still in beta, yet you go harping on about how BLOATED it is. Does your life suck so bad that you have to run around forums bashing Windows? If you don't like Vista shut up about it. I don't like Linux but I don't hang around in Linux forums telling everyone it sucks. Try to do something more productive with your time, and then maybe people will leave you "along".

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By gawd21

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 11:53 AM

You truly must be a young child lost in a big world, all alone and scared. It will be ok as long as you keep your head up and don't talk to strangers.

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By Maxwolf

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 3:31 PM

Don't try and change the subject young man!

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By gawd21

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 3:36 PM

LMAO

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By Maxwolf

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 3:49 PM

He has a sense of humor!

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By Banquo

edited Jul 29, 2005 - 1:00 PM

You truly must be an old woman living in a nursing home. The thought of an OS larger than 1GB scares you and makes you cry. My install of UT2004 is 5.83GB, over twice the size of the Vista beta. It is 2005, hard drives are huge, and yes software is bigger. Once again your original post was stupid and calling complete strangers kids doesn't change that. Now settle down granny and stop worrying; you can still run Windows 3.1 if you want.

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By gawd21

edited Jul 29, 2005 - 1:09 PM

My UT2004 is 6.82g, however I don't need my UT to be running all of the time while trying to run other apps. Why don't you load UT 2004 and run it in the backround with above normal priority and try to use your other apps that you would normally run. Maybe you will understand what is being said here.

Oh and if you don't like my opinion why cry about it and keep flaming me? I have only been giving you back what you have given me. You really do sound like a child crying and that is why I keep saying that.

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By Banquo

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 1:57 PM

"however I don't need my UT to be running all of the time while trying to run other apps."

LOL, do you actually think that every file in Windows is loaded up and running all the time? Pretty obvious now you have no clue what you are talking about.

P.S. I'm not crying, I'm making fun of you. :P

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By gawd21

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 2:04 PM

Um when it has a minimum sys req of 512 ram you need to rethink what you are saying.

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By Compman2000

edited Aug 1, 2005 - 5:08 PM

FYI- I have a dual-boot WinXP and Vista B1 on my 1.6GHz Pentium M laptop with 1GB RAM and a Radeon 9600 mobility graphics accelerator. Vista is very zippy with these specs and can even run the games installed on the XP partition, including UT2004 and World of Warcraft with performance on par with XP. Granted that the default video and sound drivers that work with Vista at the moment aren't the best, but they do the job.

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By Banquo

edited Jul 29, 2005 - 2:12 PM

Who in the world is going to have less than 512MB of RAM in 2006? I have 1GB right now with Windows XP. You remind me of those people who whined about having to have more than 8MB of RAM when Windows 95 came out. Memory is dirt cheap, and obviously every new generation of operating system is going to use more. Despite all of this, Vista is still a year from release. I think it's a bit premature to go stating system requirements for an OS that doesn't even exist yet in final retail form. This is just Beta 1, remember. Go back and look at beta 1 of Whistler and compare it to XP. Also remember that your 2.5GB figure is meaningless because as I said already the beta iso contains several different versions of the operating system among other things. The final is not going to be that large.

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By gawd21

edited Jul 29, 2005 - 2:25 PM

Damn you are slow. Yes most people will have more than 512mb, yet if the OS it's self takes that much it won't leave much for anything else and as will all programs the minimum is just to run that app without anything else, my bet is that it will take more like a gig of ram just for the OS to fun smoothly and then every app after that will need at least 128mb or more for them so you will be talking about 3 gigs after it is all said and done. Look at the big picture here and not your little world of fatty foods and loneliness.

I am done I will not reply to any more.

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By Maxwolf

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 3:36 PM

gawd21 got owned big time but still was pushing for the big win until the final quarter and gave up with five seconds left in the game!

I'm an admin for a company and all the crap office machines we have around here have 512MB of RAM in them. Catch up with the times. I just have this gut feeling that you are not even out of high-school yet.

PS. Why do you perform name calling on the internet? Doesn't that look childish to you at all? Talking about people and their little worlds of fatty foods and being alone. HA!

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By gawd21

edited Jul 29, 2005 - 3:52 PM

If you were an "admin" then you would see the problem here. I mean come on. An OS that will require 512MB ram just to run it's self? That is asking a lot for everyone. " gawd21 got owned big time" By the way I am not the one using the 10 year old's witticisms.

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By Banquo

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 4:10 PM

I thought you weren't going to reply any more, and again show me where it says Vista will require 512MB just to run. Several people have already said that Vista runs faster than XP on the same system. You're a tester too aren't you? I mean surely you have a copy of Vista running to back up all this nonsense you are saying.

By the way, I'm just playing around mostly, I don't actually think you are stupid so don't take offense by that. This is the internet after all. :P

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By gawd21

edited Jul 29, 2005 - 4:45 PM

Well. I had it but I am waiting on a new drive that the post office lost to install it on.

EDIT: I was going to install it on a new system just for testing and the HD was suppose to be here on the 25th, yet it's still not here (just a rant about the post office in may area(they aren't all this bad)).

I don't know where I read the damn minimum, I can't find it now and i did a Google search, but it's been a long damn day and I am tired of messing with it, it's time to drink my Bud Ice.

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By Banquo

edited Jul 29, 2005 - 2:28 PM

"yet if the OS it's self takes that much it won't leave much for anything else"

Jeez your dense. The OS isn't going to take up 512MB of RAM. Good grief...

"I am done I will not reply to any more"

Thank God. Maybe I can stop laughing now.

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By wincement

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 10:53 PM

I'm saving judgement til I've seen it in action. The beta's rough for sure, but it's not done yet. That's why it's a beta.

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By bourgeoisdude

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 2:39 PM

Is anyone surprised?

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By Nikkie

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 2:26 PM

No Biggie .

I shall wait for the final release though .

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By gsbrock

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 2:19 PM

Be wary, if you install IE7 (pirated or legit), there is no uninstall feature... You will probably end up needing to do a repair install to get it off.

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By drG

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 2:25 PM

To uninstall IE7 go to Add/Rem Programs, check Show Updates, & then look for it in the Windows XP - Software Updates section...

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By jessshaun

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 2:42 PM

It also sets a system restore point as well.

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By efortier

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 2:04 PM

To Betanews/any news reporters:

Why the hell do people continue to report, almost with surprise, that new or beta software gets leaked to the web?

How hypocritical! Everything gets pirated, it's not new...

Jesus, stop acting surprised, I'm not and neither are any of you!

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By guitarguynboston

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 1:59 PM

downloaded it......installed it......IE7 has encountered an error and will be closed. oh the fun of betas

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By ZJAM

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 1:36 PM

i was considering trying out IE7 untill a friend told me he got it and can not use windows update now :( so im gonna stay away from it till its released to public as for Windows Vista Beta 1 youd almost be crazy to get it unless you have a test system im going to wait well into RC1

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By the_evil_dog

posted Aug 13, 2005 - 10:10 PM

Hey, I'm currently using the IE7 Beta and I am perfectly capable of going to Microsoft Update. Do not trust everyone all the time, buddy. Honesty comes weird ways. Your friend might have some issues on the PC, so what, it happens. Whenever I try installing Vista on my PC, I get a freaking error message saying "Stub loader for Setup Program has encountered an error and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.". That is just a pathetic, no good excuse for an XP computer. Everyone reading this agree with me? BILL GATES, evolve!!! We are not in the caveman age like you are. Bill, please do us a favor and stay out of our way. We know you're jealous that we are evolved...but hey, you were meant to make people pissed with your meddiocre ideas.

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By lilmegz

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 1:24 PM

The IE7 Beta is pretty cool and WE DO GET TABBED BROWSING WITH IT LIKE MS PROMISED US :)

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By Kalphegor

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 2:32 PM

Ohh really?

in 2005 Microsoft decide to go on tab-browsing, that's big news fox

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By Metshrine

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 3:25 PM

oh wow, and this is about as big of news as firefox acting like tabbed browsing was some big feature they were adding to their browser. As if it hadnt been done before by mozilla suite, opera, and a host of other browsers based on IE. Go figure

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By dzjepp

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 1:02 PM

No suprise here. When you allow a software release to so many hands, it's going to get 'leaked'. It happened to virtually every major software product in a good while and it's going to happen again.

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By nickomcbrain

edited Jul 28, 2005 - 12:39 PM

Well im currently downlaoding the Beta 1 and cant wait to try it. Ive been using IE7 all day and am fairly impressed

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By the_evil_dog

posted Aug 13, 2005 - 10:14 PM

Could you tell me where you are downloading from? I'm way to eager to try out this beta even if people give good nor bad comments about it. I'm currently running an XP Home with SP2 - OEM if you were wondering. Will there be any issues with upgrading? If so, tell me what the requirements are and I'll handle the rest. Thanks

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By drumcat

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 12:33 PM

Let the "real" testing begin...

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By Zulithe

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 12:19 PM

When the XP Betas were circulating some years ago I jumped on that ship instantly, since running on 9x was just a nightmare. But I'm pretty happy on XP so I will wait until Vista reaches RC status before I try it out. I will say that I'm excited about it, just not *as* excited.

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By Bruce_Bach

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 4:17 PM

I will keep an eye on the thread to see if there is anybody that has anything to say for real about it instead of just the normal bashing.
Is their anybody out there that has actually used Vista that can honestly report anything about it, ease of use, control panel differences, video and picture rendering, etc...?
Isn't that what this forum is for?

P.S. - Why is IE7 more important of a topic then the actual OS? It's just a browser FFS!

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By lrstroud

edited Jul 28, 2005 - 10:36 PM

I installed IE7 last night and did some basic testing with it. The first thing I noticed was the lack of icons for the familiar Home, etc. Not a big deal, it can be added in from the toolbars, but it did lock me out of my Exchange server until I reset the security. It's set to high automatically. The other thing new besides tabs is the phishing filter. Within 30 minutes I had crashed it, but that's expected from an early beta. I also use Firefox so no big deal there. Once I rebooted the computer it ran fine. The OS Vista and Longhorn are very large indeed. I left work still downloading them. 2.5 gig is large, but again it's a beta. I have read somewhere that it will only be available on DVD when it's released. Guess we'll wait and see. I don't want to speculate on anything else, the NDA is all over the web site and I've been testing MS software for about 7 years so I like to keep my toys.

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