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(Jul 12, 2006 - 8:37 PM)
I understand how the harm might not be immediately clear. But when a site such as this is reported as #2 ONLY to iTunes in the UK, how can anyone surmise that there isn't some damage being done??
That is, second only to iTunes, these unfairly-competing, non-rights-holder-paying, selling without consent crooks are doing really well... taking legitimate sales from those who deserve to be paid for their hard work, for their labors, for their craft.
I'd say it's safe to assume harm is being done. Logically, how could anyone come to a different conclusion?
(Jul 12, 2006 - 8:32 PM)
Interesting link- it's nice to hear the word *independent* in conjunction with this issue, too.
Thank you so much for your intelligent, insightful, and frankly, refresighly mature response. Seems some people are actually capable of that, as opposed to "clever" flame-throwing.
Yes, some people won't change, others will. But even stemming the tide a little is better than not at all. Better than sitting back and simply accepting it as defacto.
So, as much as I accept that some will always simply 'take' music, with a little education, many will understand the potential damage and stop, or at least curb their activities. And hopefully stop partonising crooks like allofmp3 who take their money and stil rip off artists and rights holders.
Thanks for being so cool... and listening, and responding so thoughtfully.
(Jul 11, 2006 - 10:52 AM)
Well, that's fine for you, but it's still no one's right but their own to decide if their music is simply given away or sold through means where they see no profit.
So, no, it's not pointless to debate this - it's crucial. You may not personally care if your music could possible contribute to your income (and thusly help pay for itseld) but others spend load of time, energy, and yes. money, making their music. And if people enjoy the results of that the artist should have the right to be compensated.
And wanting to possibly make something on one's music and making it for the love of it aren't mutialy exclusinve conditions. Pretty much every band I work with makes music for the love it above everything else. But many benefit greatly from their music making a little money, too - it helps defray all those expenses and allows them to more easily keep doing what they love to do.
And giving people the information that so many obviously lack, in how the current state of music 'sharing' and how it's really hurting artists can allow them to make more informed, intelligent, and responsible choices. And when many people learn that file 'sharing' is actually theft and illegal, unauthorized distribution, and can actually hurt the bands they like and listen to, they make the choice to actually pay for what they like and listen to. I've seen it happen - people change their habits like this when they know more about what they are actually doing and how it potentially has an effect on artists.
Simply throwing up our hands and saying "oh well - it's here to stay" is not only unacceptable, it's not true. Change can and is happening. Culturally, as people learn about the pros and cons of all this stuff, and learn a bit more about the actual realities of bands, how they survive (or don't) and how rich most actually aren't, how illegal music distribution can really hurt them, we change our behaviors.
Am I saying "go hug a major label"? Heck no. I'm merely saying that people should stop and really think about the possible effects of their actions, in all aspects of their lives, and act accordingly and responsibly. Real fans support the bands they like - they don't steal from them or support those who do steal from them.
(Jul 8, 2006 - 1:06 AM)
"I still love and will continue to use allofmymp3.com..."
That's nice.
Please read below very carefully. You might learn something about the bands you enjoy and how you might be actually doing them a disservice.
Don't take that personally - plenty of people apparently have no idea how bad this all is for the future of bands...
(Jul 8, 2006 - 12:55 AM)
Actually, you and I agree on a lot here!
But see my two recent replies for elaborations...
While I agree in many cases that the RIAA are not the friends of indies, in this case they are the only allies that any artists have who have enough firepower to shut this crap down. Like I mentioned above, indies actually stand to suffer more from the wholesale pricecutting of crooks like allofmp3 than majors, do, really...