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In response to such criticisms, the RIAA has started a "Clean Slate" program offering amnesty to file sharers who admit to downloading music and sign a declaration they will not do it again. However, the EFF and other experts question the validity of such a program.

"The RIAA has offered 'sham-nesty,' not amnesty, for those sharing music online," explained EFF Staff Attorney Jason Schultz. "The recording industry wants file-sharers to confess guilt, while leaving these music fans vulnerable to lawsuits hp dv2200 battery hp dv6000 battery hp hstnn-db32 battery from record companies and music publishers and bands like Metallica that control independent music rights."

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I never really understood this RIAA thing as I don't download music/movies but it seems pretty shady to me. Is all this sueing that's going on by the RIAA just legal corporate extortion? In this age of copy protection can't it somehow be prevented at the source? Can't some fancy algorithm be imbedded on the CD or DVD so it can't be copied or transmitted for upload/download? I can understand how downloaders feel. After all, if you purchase something it's yours to do with what you want. You know, possesion being nine-tenths of the law. But at the same time I understand RIAA's point of view, no one would buy music/movies if they could grab it for free off the internet. I heard that file sharing doesn't really hurt artists as they really don't make that much off of actual sales. They make their money off of the contracts and merchandising. I think someone should be investigating the RIAA at any rate. I think they are the ones that should be watched.

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Hey RIAA, guess what you can do?

YOU GOT IT...
Idiots..

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and before anyone bashes me about the typos and whatnot in my comment, sorry- I was in rant mode!

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I wasnt to personally call them and tell them myself: as long as the internet is up and running, they cant stop the free downloading of music! GET SERIOUS! Why were the music files made in the first place then? Why do these people keep coming up with websites to make it easier and more organized to download music? This is a battle I think the RIA will never win. No matter how many people they try to make their stupid commercials saying that "downloading music is bad", "go get the cd", etc., people are still going to do it! And also, if it is that bad, why are computer companies making cd burners for computers? What are they going to do-sue the computer company, the creators of internet, and then the people? I've heard of certain ideas that they could maybe RESORT to, like a small charge per download. Plus, what if I dont WANT the CD? What if I want to make my own mix cds? The RIAA didnt bash us when people were ILLEGALLY making copies of cassettes! I NEVER heard of any of this craziness before CDs and the internet came out! Besides, while there grabbing all these artists who claim the same thing that they have, you mean to tell me that their all spitting images of honest Abe? And if so, how are they sure? WHat will they do when they slip up and sue someone big, like Madonna, Nelly, or Mary J. Blige? I myself am not going to waste my money on a cd that the majority of the time I dont like. They basically want to make money off of us no matter what the circumstance. I learned this upon purchase of Nelly's 2nd CD, and I can't STAND IT! It's a waste!! Why do that when I can just download the songs that I like and toss them on a cd with other songs I like? If they're going to search out people, go after people that you can PROVE are making illegal cds and selling them. But wait-you can't! THERE IS NO WAY!! They need to realize that Kazaa, Napster, and whatever else music downloading programs are out there are not going to back down. If one dies, then another wil appear. And, as long as the conditions stated earlier regarding companies and the internet, then its a pointless battle. They can sue all the people they want to, but it won't end-it'll just peeve off people, and more than likely they're still going to do it. The RIAA can't control what I do in the privacy of my own home, whether they like it or not. They need to pull their thumbs out their mouth and GROW UP. Technology such as this advances on a daily basis-if they would keep up, then none of this could be an issue. Instead, they want to be antagonists and stay in the late 90's and early 2000, where billion dollar corporations get the say. Now that they realize their moments away from being overran and FORCED into changed, they want to cry about it. Whatever.

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WTF - The music companies suing a 12 year little girl just for dl music off of kazaa?? And the RIAA says that they want the parents to know what their children are doing on their computers - well, the children ask their parents if they're are able to dl the program and the parents also pay for the program!!

Also, how else are some of the users out there suppose to get the music that you can't get in the US - some of us like music that is still over seas (and if we do, we don't want to go onto a website and buy it just for one song), and some of those old songs that our grandparents used to listen to?? How are they suppose to find their music when you -do- come out with those MP3 players that cost about $300 to about $500 (were not made of money!) - so what are we suppose to do with those players, hm? Let them sit on our desks looking pretty? The only way the RIAA is making money is us buying those MP3 players off of them and then we go and dl the music off of kazaa.

You companies need to keep up with today's technology - what you are doing is wrong - and suing that little girl? I think your heads have gotten to big if you have to sink that low towards innocent little girls just so you could prove your points.

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How do we go about fighting this, we all know sueing a 12 year old is wrong for something she thought was legal and did not understand. Or a father who was unaware that his visiting children were downloading music.

People are still buying CD's we are still going to BESTBUY FYE or wherever for our music needs. The industry supplies us with MP3 players, but encodes there songs so they cannot be converted to MP3 without having somesort of distortion. This is the future compressed music files, the internet digital transfering of data. Come on now get with it. Do artists truly need record labels anymore? Or can they totally exist online, transfereing their music through cable and phone lines. Not everyone has access to the internet either so they have to purchase the CD's somehow... so yes. Artists make money from going on tour, tickets cost double the price of a cd sometimes less. Thats alot of money. Artists can profit from this and most do profit from touring more so than CD sales for that income goes to the record label. THIS IS ABOUT THE GREEDY LABEL COMPANY bas****S NOT GETTING THE 12 DOLLARS FOR A CD THEY DIDNT EVEN MAKE. bas****s are stealing from artists, key word artist. BYE NOW!

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The music industry is encouraging people to download! They came up with these fancy mp3 Player's. What else is someone gonna stick on one of those besides illegal music? It's encourgament. They should be suing the makers of that instead of little 12 year old girls. I'm also sure it wouldn't hurt those Super Star's to sell one or two of their mansions and give the money to those who aren't getting paid. It's not like they use them all anyway, they're always busy with tours etc.

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I will NEVER pay nor buy any music from you greedy bas****s again. Like you dont make enough money already your going to start suing little kids and elderly parents.
Kiss my *** . Sue This.

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same thing happened in Belgium, where a 16year old girl was sued for distribution of a single of the belgian edition of "Idol 2003". the mp3 had a digital watermark (aka fingerprint) and thus the belgian division of riaa made her pay for it. Sorry, but this is absolute madness ! if the mp3's have fingerprints in them (granted, they were sold through the net), what else can they make to spy on us? this isn't about downloading music anymore, it's about plain infringement of the law of privacy... i'm afraid of what next to come !

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It really, thoroughly sickens me to see how insanely GREEDY these people are! If it's not basketball players complaining they're falling below the $1.2 million/year poverty level, it's recording artists flattering themselves as gods and demanding an endless supply of money to add to their already gargantuan Swiss bank accounts that will never be spent in the course of three lifetimes! What the heck do they think we're doing? The artists still own their respective songs; none of us lesser mortals are claiming them for our own! So really, when you boil it down past the red tape they've made sure to wrap copyright law up with over the years, it has nothing to do with ownership. It has to do with the hunger for power and money that these delusional tyrants have developed through years of quite possibly misfounded fandom.

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http://www.eff.org/share/petition/

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This may be just a beginning. Democracy is at an end everywhere in this world.
They can ruin everybody, if they like to. They have the right to do so, because the governments, which are said to be elected by the people, grant those rights by making laws that suit the BIG ones.
I am a musician myself. I've written music for three LPs back in the 80s. So I ask the RIAA:
What about the 99 per cent musical structures, that have been used uncounted times before - and which are used in every newly made piece of music, especially in the POP etc. branch? Who suits that kind of behavaviour? It is hypocrisy of the lowest kind, to talk of "intellectual property" in such a kind of music.
But this is just bulls*** talk, just rationalizing, having some kind of good conscience - that's it.
If this was true - why, then why doesn't some BIG ones take money for every word ordinary people use, because it has been spoken in one of their numerous talk-shows??????

Maybe that will come next . . .

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www.boycott-riaa.com

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This is NOT USA only...it's GLOBAL...we are speaking, billions of folk and not millions. I was 16 when John Lennon had a White Rolls, did I help pay for it? a plastic 45 single made STARS mega bucks....these POP STARS scream SAVE THE WORLD...but line my pockets....Q? Who holds the rights to BRAHMS? or is that copywrite? or maybe I will see him in court?

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This is why I fly the Canadian flag with great pride.

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Stop buying cds and d/l off the net. Let's see how they like sueing the whole darm country....all I have to say

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Hmmm... this smells like SCO...

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So, those 2 crates of 45 records I paid for back in the 80's. That does not entitle me to download a digital copy of a song I have already paid for? That is crap. I paid for the music, even if it was over 10 years ago. Downloading a single, better sounding copy is not theft. I certainly don't think I need to go buy a 21 dollar copy of "Obscure Hits of the 80's" just to have a better sounding copy of any given *paid for* song!

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There are two underlying problems:

Most commerical music sucks. Few albums are worth buying. Most have one or two reasonably good songs. The music industry has created a market where "artists" are little more than the flavor of the month.

CDs are too expensive. CD's are cheaper to produce than albums. The artists only get about $1 a CD. (And then the artists have to pay the recording costs and other "fees".)

The bottom line: the record companies are greedy bas****s that killed their own "golden goose" and are trying to blame everyone else.

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All I have to say is, WOW this really makes me want to buy cd's(sarcasm). :D

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Governers, People of the USA! A year of events of historical significance is drawing to an end. A year of the greatest decisions lies ahead. In these serious times, I speak to you, Governers, as to the representatives of the American nation. Beyond and above that, the whole American people should take note of this glance into the past, as well as of the coming decisions the present and future impose upon us.

After the renewed refusal of my peace offer in January 1999 (ed:guessing) by the then Napster and the clique which supported or else dominated it, it became clear that this war -- against all reasons of common sense and necessity -- must be fought to its end. You know me, my old Party companions; you know I have always been an enemy of half measures or weak decisions...........

(taken from a speech to the German people by Mr. Hitler, Dec 11, 1941)

So Tow the party line.. or ELSE !!!!! Bwahahahahahaha
Next will be Pr0n, then Games !!!!!! Big Brother is watching !~!!!!! Bwhahahahaha "ack!" 'RIAA Gestapo comes out of the ceiling panels' No No.. I am a party member.. take the 12 year old, the 12 year oldddddd.." 'Gestapo drags Inquisitor X away....his punishment... listening to Yhani, John Tesh for the rest of his life.....Aieeeeeeee'

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Now I can be at peace. Because the country will never be safe until all 12-year-olds kids are behind bars!

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If the 12-year-old drives a car - she or her legal guardian will be held accountable. Accountability is the issue here. At what age do we settle for ignorance as a reason to not press charges against illegal activity? As for her reasoning based on purchasing KazaaPlus - I wonder if that statement was hers, or hers as guided by an adult or legal advisor.

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Sue an innocent girl who knows little about the law?
One word... Heartless...

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Never has an industry understood it's customer base less. And suing a 12-year old...at the very least this shows that they need a new PR firm to look over the list before they file the suits.

It's simple, bad music at high prices will never sell when the consumer can pick and choose the songs they want, in the format they want, to play when and where they want. File sharing companies have offered to work WITH the RIAA to bring customers music the way they want it, and been repeatedly turned down. Now, the RIAA is gaining a reputation with their customers that is so bad that the industry will take longer to recover from their bullying than it ever would have to recover from file sharing.

Increasingly, businesses ignore what the customer wants and tell the customer what they are going to get. This will continue to prove counter productive to the bottom line, and one day some overpaid CEO will come out and say, "We have listened to our customers and understand what they want." and he won't be lying (this will be a historical first). By then, however, it may be too late.

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These lawsuits are without merit, and must be challenged and not settled. The settlements do not require the accused to admit any wrongdoing. These people are just scared. And getting out of this lawsuit was simply a better deal for them financially, considering the legal expenses involved in going to trial. This is wrong. The RIAA has already been found guilty of pricefixing crimes, and forced to pay millions back to the public. They are clearly bullying people with scare tactics becasue people can't afford lawyers and do not want to waste valuable years of their lives in a courtroom. I urge any lawyers reading this to take on one of these cases pro-bono.
-gary

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