RSSBest Buy leaks the final missing info about Zune HD
By Tim Conneally | Published August 10, 2009, 7:08 PM
Until today, there were only a couple of important bits of information about Microsoft's new multi-touch Zune that were left unknown: the price and the date of availability. Now, thanks to a Best Buy Leak, even those mysteries have been exposed.
On September 8th, the 16GB Zune HD will be available at $220, while the 32GB model will cost $290 (versus $299 and $399 for the 16GB and 32GB iPod Touch.)
The Zune HD will be Microsoft's answer to the iPod Touch, offering a 3.3" (420 x 272) capacitive touchscreen, full-screen Web browser, a built-in HD radio, the ability to put out 720p video with the HDMI-equipped Zune Dock, and integration with Xbox Live.
Emusic? Really? Yup you are a scam...There has never been drm in emusic.
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|Replace Microsoft with Apple.
Apple would remove iPods from Bestbuy..
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|Zune's still use the excellent Wolfson CODEC WM8350
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/WM8350
http://www.embedded.com/...hehood/210603153?pgno=2
which incidentally was used by iPODS in the earlier generations, but due to cost reasons, Apple decided to go with cheap DAC in their later models.
I have spent a lot of time on different players including Sony, ipod , Zune etc...and anyday I will pick a Zune over iPods for Audio quality...though I don't like Sony a lot due to their cramped device designs, the audio quality is out of this world...
Software side, Zune is way far cooler than excel based iTunes....podcasting support is awesome...and the best part you can copy the music back to your pc...oh yeah...there the all you can eat buffet at 14.99...inclusive of 10 songs that you can keep...that;s like paying for a CD and getting to listen to unlimited other songs...
Trust me iPod is yesterday..
Zune continues to use Wolfson along with Tegra in Zune HD.
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|"You obviously were drunk. The Zune hardware is horrible compared to the iPod and the audio is sub par, even for MP3 players."
CNET ran audio tests on both the Zune and the iPod, they had comparable quality....please refrain from using facts that originate from your biased opinions. Unless you wish to refute CNET.
As for hardware I barely know what you're talking about, given that the the Zune HD will be using that new tegra chip
And yes, Zune software sucks, but so does iTunes. Also, your claims that the OS for the Zune (or computer) is crap is also unsubstantiated. Therefore, your comments have no relevance and credibility here whatsoever.
You seem to be nothing more than a flamer
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|I didn't know about the web browser, I may have to pick one up.
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|Given that some assume that Europe, especially the French, just hate the US in general, the assumption that Europe hates Microsoft has no value....
And given that making assumptions is the first sign of an ignorant idiot...
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|I think the appstore for iPod Touch and iPhone blows away anything by MS. Balmer was right when he yelled developers, developers, developers. Unfortunately Apple seems to have embraced them and MS screwed them. All that aside, iPod is now the brand, Zune doesn't even have the cache of Pepsi versus Coke. Lots of pretty trinkets to be left on store shelves over XMas.
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|Vote for Zune Phone if, you want to make MS to build it.
http://www.ipetitions.co...tion/we_want_zune_phone/
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|"make MS to build it."
I don't think anyone here is going to "make" Microsoft do anything. ;p
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|2 of my siblings have gen 1 zunes. they were quality back then so i assume these will be as well. good devices for cheaper than ipod. i have an ipod video 30gb but bought it only b/c of rockbox. i like the hardware a lot but dont deal with forced software and file type limitations (from any company)...
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|I find it very odd that the Zune isn't available in Europe.
It's the one place where I suspect it'd sell quite well (at least in comparison to the US).
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|I think it will be released worldwide later this year.
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|why do you say that? in general, Europe hates microsoft more than WWII Germany...
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|WWII Germany hated Microsoft?
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|I live in Europe.... and I can not confirm previous statement that "Europe hates Microsoft more than World War 2". That is just absurd, taken literally or not.
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|Microsoft is now strongest brand in the UK, and believe it or not, Microsoft products such as msn.com, Windows Live Messenger and Hotmail are far more popular in general in Europe than they are in the US.
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|I take it you pulled that load of nonsense out of your a$$.
What hogwash,
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|Hm, they were in 2006 could not find anything recent though...
http://news.softpedia.co...-King-in-UK-30342.shtml
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|waiting on the Creative Zii Egg...
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|I'm intensely hoping that the next GPhone will be built on the Zii Egg platform. I love my G1 so much, but it's obvious that the hardware isn't up to snuff, especially after I've stuffed it with Apps and it only has 33mb of space left. The mytouch has newer/faster hw but alas, I need a keyboard. Same reason I dislike iphone typing, fingers are too wide I guess. I doubt it will ever happen...and even if it does I will never, ever buy a phone for more than $200 so unless Tmo subsidizes heavily I wouldn't get it anyway.
As for the Zune HD, I'd be incredibly tempted if I didn't use my G1 for everything I need anyway (which is moooostly music).
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|Love the Zune...
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|HD Radio? Nice. Now if they could just add a phone (Verizon) to it, I'd be sold. In that regard, I agree with ryano below.
(Proof that some iPhone users can actually discuss the product rationally rather than the OCD reminiscent repetitions of fathead.
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|Zune? Is that still a viable product?
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|When you have a OS/Office monopoly to back it up, yes.
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|What exactly does Windows and Office have to do with the multimedia player Zune?
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|Most companies can not afford to pump billions into a dvision which sees nothing but red ink. The Zune is a total failure. Microsoft has deep pockets thanks to their OS and Office monopolies to fund such failures.
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|i cannot wait for Zune HD, give me that and its hdmi cable and i'm set
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|So now Microsoft enters the iPod Touch cloner club...this thing has fail written all over it. I think I have seen one Zune outside of a store ever. Crap software, crap hardware, crap OS, DRM infestation, proprietary Silverturd infestation.
One question...does it come with Anti-Virus, Anti-Spyware, Intrusion detection, and a Firewall? no Microsoft name on it yet again. Can't blame them, their brand is about as solid as GM.
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|yeah well their new software blows the touch software away, if you've bothered looking at the recent videos you would be aware of this, new hardware blows the touch away as well
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|Same post in every thread. Funny how the same issues (that are actually relevant) plague the iPod....and yet, that's OK because anything Apple does is sacred.
Gotta love the religious nut-jobs, don't ya?
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|PC_Tool forgot to take his meds again.
"Funny how the same issues (that are actually relevant) plague the iPod..."
1) Crap Software - nope, iTunes blows away the crap Zune software. IE mobile will in no doubt be great for getting spyware and trojans installed. Safari kills IE any day of the week.
2) Crap Hardware - turd brown anyone? Everyone is trying to clone the iPods. Apple makes the best hardware, period
3) Crap OS - OSX is by far better than any Windows, especially the crap Windows Mobile or Windows Phone OS or whatever name they are calling it today. If the OS was any good, they would not have to change the name every six months.
4) DRM infestation - Windows Media/Silverturd, etc... yes, it is fully infested. Does it have activation like Windows? lol
5) Silverturd infestation - last i checked, Silverturd is a Microsoft proprietary tech. It does not work on the iPod touch.
So yes, you are totally wrong again.
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|LOL you are such a moron fatty. iTunes, LOLLLL that is some bad software right there.
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|1. Opinion
2. Opinion - this was discontinued when MS took over the hardware and it was no longer a rebranded Toshiba Gigabeat
3 Kind of like apple...Panther, Tiger, Leopard, Snow Leopard, Brontosaurus, Zebra,
4.There is no DRM in Windows, it is support for only, get a clue.
5. Silverlight works on OSX though and Linux, I am not sure if silverlight has been ported yet to mobile devices, I know its being worked on. Flash isn't available on Ipod Touch either...
So yes, you are like TOTALLY wrong and stuff!
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|Opinion, Opinion, Opinion.
if you knew ANYTHING about the device you would know its far from a clone and its expanding on the current Zune. It will have compatibility with Xbox Live, it has a built in radio, it can output 720p - completely different gui. the hardware is the Nvidia Tegra which is the hottest mobile tech out right now and is using an OLED screen.
Windows Mobile and embedded devices including At&t Uverse do not require A/V why would this?
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|1.) iTunes is crap.
2.) Color is NOT hardware...idiot.
3.) OS-X vs. Windows. You're so cute. Here I thought we were talking about iPod vs. Zune.
4.) iTunes *is* DRM, genius.
5.) We already know how clueless you are in regards to Silverlight. You can stop showing us any time now...
Your religion sucks, fathead. Get over it.
(Funny how you seem to think this is some Holy War and that we're on opposite sides when yet to actually state any personal preference between the iPod and the Zune...)
Nice -6 (and dropping), by the way. Trying to beat iTard's record, are we?
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|Hard to get a score on here when people like yourself use multiple usernames to mod things up or down.
1) Hey some people actually by Fords, so i agree, there are some clueless people out there which might think iTunes sucks for some reason. IMO, nothing comes close.
2) Where did i say color == hardware? forget the meds again?
3) iPod runs OSX, Zune runs a flavor of Windows CE. So *yes* we are talking about OSX vs Windows. School is in...
4) iTunes is not DRM. iTunes is music software. Windows is DRM...activation anyone?
5) This is news to me, where on the app store can i download Silverturd? Not that I would let that proprietary crap 100000000 miles near my iPhone. We all know how cluless you are in regards to Silverturd, You can stop showing us any time now...
You have no clue PC_Tool. Surprised you do not get banned for insulting people on here...hmmmm...makes me wonder what your relationship to this site is....
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|ITS AMAZING....how blindly you follow Apple and disregard any kind of debate...As stated earlier lots of things run Windows and are perfectly fine, One of them being At&t's Uverse And Ford's Microsoft Sync both which are rated quite highly and work very well. The Ipod Touch/Iphone run a stripped down version of OSX - the Nano and Classic run something else entirely.
Dedicated Hardware is what makes a stable platform as we have seen in Apple. The Zune, Uverse, and MS Sync all have dedicated hardware. If you nuse hardware not dedicated to Apple it becomes quite unreliable hence the hackintosh project.
I think you are so deep in your fanboy s*** you forget the crap you spew
2) Crap Hardware - turd brown anyone? Everyone is trying to clone the iPods. Apple makes the best hardware, period - This is where you made a reference to color and go on about apple being the best in hardware...
No one has multiple names on here just everyone disagrees with you
Show me on the app store where you can download flash? Silverlight hasn't been ported to mobile devices yet...
Itunes still has DRM in it for rentals - silverlight works the same way to keep people from stealing movies streaming from netflix.
You call people names on here ALL the g**d*** time, its amazing how you believe some of the stuff you speak.
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|"Hard to get a score on here when people like yourself use multiple usernames to mod things up or down."
Sorry. I have one mod point to spend on each of your posts. The rest is up to the other folks here. As you can see, we all love ya.
Quote Fatty:
1.) Opinion. HWe'd have never guessed yours...
2.) Quote fatty: "Crap Hardware - turd brown anyone?"
3.) The iPod OS is about as much "Mac OS X" as Windows 7 is "Windows CE"...meaning; not much at all. Same developer !=same OS, genius.
4.) *laughing*
5.) Where can you download flash on the appstore?? What in God's name does it (or silverlight) have to do with the iPhone? ...and before you claim I'm going off topic again, *you* are the one who brought it up.
"You have no clue PC_Tool. Surprised you do not get banned for insulting people on here...hmmmm...makes me wonder what your relationship to this site is...."
ROFLMAFAO!!!!
I insult people who insult me. Fair game. I have no relationship to this site other than the entertainment I get from making fun of religious nut-jobs such as yourself. :) (and the occasional rational discussion with people who can actually apply reason and logic to their posts)
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|one piece of technology that keeps me away from Zune is ability to connect and charge in the car. Something similar to iPod adapters made by Pioneer, Alpine and many others. Is something like this available for Zune?
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|Wal-Mart has a number of Zune-compatible accessories. You might take a look there.
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|Technically no, but many stereos with iPod capabilities do at least have an Aux port.
It's very disappointing. IMO as big a failure on the part of the car stereo manufacturers part as anyone else. But I doubt there's any standard for this sort of thing, so basically, iPods are the standard.
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|No one makes this beacuse the Zune is a total failure; how many have sold compared to the ipod? yeah, like none.
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|just because something sells better, does not necessarily mean its a better product. With your logic, it would mean that the Windows OS is 10 times better than the Mac OS. And im sure you will agree with me when I say its not 10 times better, wouldn't you :)
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|"No one makes this beacuse the Zune is a total failure; how many have sold compared to the ipod? yeah, like none."
Unless i am seeing things, no where in the above quote did I say the iPod is better because it sells more. The iPod is better than the Zune because of the Hardware and most importantly the software.
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|Source?
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|over 2.5 million sold... but using your logic... Less != Bad Product otherwise Linux and OSX would be the worst of them all.
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|Andrey- My wife has a Zune branded Car Charger/FM Transmitter. Although it is not as nice as the direct connection method of a plug-in, the sound quality is very good. We both only have the 4 GIg models, but mine is loaded with tech podcasts and hers is loaded with music. I got mine from Fry's for $75. I've been VERY happy with it (but would love to upgrade to the new HD when it comes out). We are actually thinking of adding another Zune connected to wireless speakers for the sound system in our family room
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|Which hardware in particular and which software? Have you have seen/touched/used or can you quote a source for your opinion? We're still waiting...
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|I think tech-wise and also price wise, the 32GB Zune should be a no brainer any person with some insight into personal technolgy and looks a little bit further than just the Apple logo... :) Flame me if you want.
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|I won't flame you Daddy_Spank. :) However, I do have 1 word for you: IPhone. The reason why I find the Apple Iphone compelling is its level of integration. I don't need to carry a phone, PDA, gaming device, and ipod. I just need 1 device. Microsoft has yet to come out with something comparable. So, if I was in the market for an IPod touch, I might consider the new Zune. But if you value simplification, IPhone is the way to go which eliminates the need for a Zune/Ipod touch.
Also, another big factor is that the IPod Touch already has tons of applications ready to go. Microsoft is late to the party.
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|You mean that they should look past the Microsoft (or Zune) label, really.
Perhaps, Microsoft's departed ad agency could have renamed Zune to Zing and worked past Microsoft's low market share in the music business, even amongst "Plays for Sure" devices.
It'll be interesting to see if more than Windows fanatics will buy one, given Zune's track record.
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|"Perhaps, Microsoft's departed ad agency could have renamed Zune to Zing"
Oh my, you're a clever boy, aren't you?
"It'll be interesting to see if more than Windows fanatics will buy one, given Zune's track record."
You mean Zune's track record of abysmal sales? If that were the only criteria under which consumers purchased technology, the Apple OS would be a giant FAIL.
If I buy a Zune HD, it will be fore the same reason I bought a first gen Zune 30gb: Superior hardware and an outstanding audio front end.
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|You obviously were drunk. The Zune hardware is horrible compared to the iPod and the audio is sub par, even for MP3 players.
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|do you even know whats running under the hood? Or even something simple as what the screen is made of?
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|Jobs = God
Microsoft = Devil
That's about as deep as the thought process goes for some.
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|Microsoft = convict monopolist who thwarts competition, corrupts/bribes standards bodies to get their horribly defined document formats approved, thwarts interoperability, charges crazy high prices for its software, no innovation - copies everything companies like Apple and Google do, etc....
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|No, he has no idea. :)
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|Source?
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|Everyone copies everyone...This nonsense is never heard for cars, stereos, tvs, computers etcetc. Only MS and only their products. "OMG they have an aux input on their car stereo, they so totally copied us!" Apple, Google, Sony, Linux, Toshiba, TV, Ice Cream, Candy they ALL copy from one another, its how we have COMPETITION!
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|Some people have valid reasons for hating MS. None of those people have valid reasons for shoving it in everyones face.
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|As usual:
Microsoft = convict monopolist who thwarts competition, corrupts/bribes standards bodies to get their horribly defined document formats approved, thwarts interoperability,"
Really? in what regard? OSX has only had IPV6 for about a year or so (maybe a hair more) whereas MSFT has had it for almost 7 years. Add to that the Unix Client Services and also the number of protocols that Windows has supported over the years... yeah, they thwart interoperability...
"charges crazy high prices for its software,"
List of Free MSFT Products: http://bhandler.spaces.l...231.entry?wa=wsignin1.0
Hmmmm, and with Win7 on the horizon, 119.99 for Win 7 Home Premium... yeah, that's super high... OSX 10.4.7: the cheapest I could find was $114.00... I'm sorry, but where is this super high pricing?
"no innovation - copies everything companies like Apple and Google do, etc...."
Everybody copies from everyone else... that's how we have competition. also, if they were copying EVERYTHING, wouldn't there be more patent lawsuits than there are?
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|And you have a source for this somewhere? Can you show us specs of a multi-core processor in any iPod? We're waiting...
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