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Critical Word Vulnerability Uncovered

By Nate Mook, BetaNews

May 19, 2006, 5:47 PM

Security researchers have discovered a zero-day vulnerability in Microsoft Word, which is already being actively exploited by hackers in China and Taiwan. Microsoft's Security Response Center says it is working with antivirus vendors to prevent attacks and plans to release a security patch on June 13.

The exploit is spread as a Word document attached to an e-mail. Users who open the attachment with Word XP and Word 2003 are then infected with a trojan that contains rootkit-like features in order to hide itself from antivirus scanners.

The trojan communicates back to a server, but it's not yet clear what data is transferred. "When the exploit is launched, early on in the process, it drops a bot, possibly Rbot or some variant," said SANS Internet Storm Center researcher Chris Carboni in a diary entry.

"Once the bot is in place, it begins an extensive recon of the system; installed patches, installed AV, contents of My Documents, startup file contents, IE config, etc."

No antivirus application currently detects the exploit, according to SANS. Microsoft is hoping to remedy this problem and says it is working closely with security vendors. The Redmond company plans to update its own Windows Live Safety Center with definitions that detect the new attack.

"The Office team is hard at work on an update that addresses the vulnerability. It's in testing right now to make sure it's of the right quality for release," said Microsoft security researcher Stephen Toulouse. "Right now we're on schedule to be released as part of the June security updates on June 13, 2006, or sooner as warranted."

F-Secure has dubbed the trojan "Ginwui.A" and says it allows a hacker to: create, read, write, delete and search for files and directories; access and modify the Registry; manipulate services; start and kill processes; and more.

Symantec, meanwhile, has raised its ThretCon Level to 2 following news of the exploit. "The DeepSight Threat Analyst team advises administrators to block Microsoft Word document email attachments at the network perimeter," the company said. "Furthermore, use extreme caution while processing Microsoft Word attachments received via unexpected email."

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By tscar12

edited May 23, 2006 - 5:54 AM

This may not be the best Place to ask it but here goes...I'm looking to get a new computer and so I thought,WTF, I would go to the apple site and I could only find 2 choices under what would be desktops(Imacs) and didn't seem to have any ability to customize the computer. Plus their best one, even with a intel dual core chpset only had a 2.0 processor. Now, on pcs they are up to intel's dual core 3.6 processor. So if I have missed something on their site, It would be great if one of the apple lovers would enlighten me so I can make a more informed decision. Thanks.

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By wat0114

edited May 22, 2006 - 2:44 PM

Notice that most will blame MS, the humungous, multi-billion $$$ corporation that has the world market cornered on pc's and standardized - if not swiss cheese vulnerable - O/S'? Why does no one codemn the real criminals, the no-good-for-nothing-two-bit punks that write and distribute the viruses? If there's no one attacking Windoze, then none of these non-stop patches or antivirus utilities would be required.

I know all the arguments; MS is filthy rich, Windoze is too expensive, it should be free, they take too long to patch holes, it breaks my computer, they stomp on the little guys...blah, blah, blah. Oh yeah, they must also must be in cahoots with the antivirus vendors; we'll allow the continual infestation of viruses to occur, you guys sell your antivirus software and make big bucks, give us a cut of the profits, and we can all be one very big and extremely wealthy happy family.

Geez, all of that could actually be true.

Not likely. As some others here have suggested, education is of paramount importance. Use common sense and don't balme others, including Bill, for your problems. Surfing the 'net comes with inherent risks and you just have to learn how to avoid them and deal with them if they affect you. Why should life surfing the Internet be that simple? We all need some challenges in our lives.

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By GCoder

posted May 22, 2006 - 9:51 AM

nice and cozy here in Mac OSX.
come to where the grass is a lot greener...

*also dons flameproof suit from PC fanboys*

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By rijp

posted May 22, 2006 - 11:22 AM

Hmm.. that's why Apple release 43 security patches last week huh? That's why Apple had like 4 or 5 major revisions to the OSX, huh?

Yeah, whatever.. *NO* Os is perfect or is free from defect or security, that is a false suit you are wearing (along the lines of the kings new suit of children's literature).

At any rate, as someone once put, "Why would hackers bother with the 1%, because its a waste of their time to hack a system very few people use". It doesn't mean you CAN'T get it, it means that OSX isn't large enough to warrant enough people using it that anyone would notice.

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By GCoder

posted May 22, 2006 - 4:56 PM

Sorry you didnt read my post... ROTFLMAO

"*also dons flameproof suit from PC fanboys*"

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By BadgerPete

edited May 21, 2006 - 1:01 AM

Why would anyone with enough sense blame Microsoft for a virus....
Why...?
Because it is no most widely used system operating platform.
Because they are filthy rich.
Because they have enough software titles and etc...any type of applications one may desire.
Because of ease of program or application use.
Think again when you sit down to boot up your PC with Microsoft Windows how convient it was.
Think again of all host programs that are free.
Now if your not happy because you recieved a virus in your email, that you happened to open.
Lets have you consider picking out a Mac or Apple next time you want to up-grade your old PC
Open you wallet wide $$$
Oh by the way....
Thanks Bill job well done and will continue being a loyal User for many years to come.
The rest of stop your complaining, lets become a little more computer literate.

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By rijp

posted May 22, 2006 - 11:25 AM

Yes, its true. They are jealous. Pure and simple.

They like their world, its quiet with only 4 neighbors.. just let them have their limited view of a product they obviously don't appreciate.

My problem is, if you don't like so much, why continue to use it?

I agree with your points, they are nuts.

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By sophist_dreams

posted May 22, 2006 - 10:18 AM

How about because Microspud worries too much about getting a product out and doesn't worry enough about protecting the customer, they have been writing stitched together crap for software for years and you PC fan boys continue to defend them. Why you all do that is the real question.

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By rijp

posted May 22, 2006 - 11:38 AM

Well if you read publications that show that MS rushes product, then you are listening to the people that aren't involved with the product. If you also realize that cars, clothes, gas, tires, are ALL under pressure to produce, then you should know that this is a common problem in the USA, you people are VERY demanding, and firestone, rushed to get tires out, and we all know what happened there.. Ford got in trouble for firestone's stupidity, but who did people blame first? That's right, the car manufacturer.. Why? Because they were the easy target..

That's another story. What bothers me, isn't so much that MS is under pressure to product (because people badger them to get out the next version, or to keep up with competition - yes, MS DOES have competitors) it's people don't realize that MS does a very good job in creating a product. What YOU obviously don't see, is that a product is only as compatible as the software that is ALSO installed on your machine. Obviously the test machines and the 500 million people that MS get's to PUBLIC beta test their products, the product is fine. but those few thousand people out there, that run a bunch of other crap on their machine, affects MS office products, and THAT is what compromises their software, so they come out with patches, not to fix their Product, to protect their product from instrusion from OTHER companies that they get blamed for.

You, and 95% of this forum, are NOT programmers, and all you care about is that your product doesn't work. And you blame MS, but you need to learn that OTHER products account for 75% of the problems with Ms products, and THAT'S what MS has to fight, their products are solid, but rather than kick you to the curb and say "mr customer you need to remove, symantec, go back, roxio, and 5000 other 3rd party apps, so our product will work". They simply say "we are working on a patch to fix the problem".

That's what you see. We don't defend MS we are being realistic, PEOPLE are the damn problem, not the product. Its this way in EVERY consumer market in the world. People are selfish, indignant, pathetic, ingorant fools that believe whatever they read on a moments notice and don't take into account what else is going on around them. MS, Ford, and a host of millions of companies, smile and are pleasant, and continue to do what they can to fix the problem, because they know.. 80% of the people are fine, its the 20% of the people that are 80% of their problem, that would be you.

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By dwaterman

posted May 22, 2006 - 12:49 PM

I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but we are talking about a problem with Word...

The difference between Microsoft and Ford is that Ford installed Firestone tires making them accountable in the mind of the consumer.

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By PC_Tool

posted May 22, 2006 - 12:11 PM

PEOPLE are the damn problem

Yeah! Let's fix them instead!

I got a pair of scissors, who's first?

*evil grin*

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By Reap_r

edited May 22, 2006 - 4:25 PM

Finally someone with a solution. I have a good name for your "fixing" program. I know...we can call it the Final Solution...that is kinda catchy don't you think? ;-)

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By PC_Tool

posted May 22, 2006 - 5:09 PM

...was thinking more along the lines of Armageddon, but....

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By xyzcb1

posted May 22, 2006 - 10:42 AM

No virus writer in their right mind will waste their time to write a virus target a Mac. Why, because it has a merely 3% of the market. What impact does it has even if the virus bring down 50% of the mac? If Microsoft is so bad, why is so many people using it? With the money you pay for a Mac, you can easily get someone (if you don't know how) put together a computer more powerful w/o Windows. The reason why Microsoft products sell is because they are EASY to use.

Please don't reply with some anti-ms comments, which make most of your sound like an idoit.

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By rijp

posted May 22, 2006 - 11:42 AM

MAC users, are losers! That's right, I said it.. They whine, because their product evidently is perfect....

If it's so perfect, why are only 3% of people using it? Because, it SUCKS!

Actually, it doesn't suck, but we have to keep asking ourselves, after 25 years, why does the market share remain so low? That is a VERY interesting question...

I know what the problem is.. but I don't care, like you said, If MS is so bad, why do so many people keep using it? I think the evidence is clear, its a SUPERIOR product.

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By Monado

edited May 21, 2006 - 2:33 PM

It also implies that a trolling Web site could post infected Word documents, in the "click for more details" line.

Incredible as it seems, people do post Word documents to the Web.

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By Silentmaster101

posted May 22, 2006 - 12:51 PM

as incredible as it seems intelligent people know not to open them without scanning them, if at all.

the sad part is all these patches and vulns really only affect ignorant users, which being ignorant users, keep putting off the installation of updates or turn them off cause they are annoying, thus these vulns are going to be a bigger problem then they would normally be if people just updated their patches. but instead i bet this little problem will float around for as long as a year or so.

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By TonyGuitaro

edited May 21, 2006 - 2:11 PM

Windows is a target of malware simply because the pool of potential victims is so big and lucrative to phishers and data crooks.

This seems like a perfect time for the smart enterpreneur to make a million.

I am ready to buy your product when you show me a suite of programs that are far less featured than microsoft.

Programs that do word procession and graphics for example, without the need of too many patches, upgrades and plug-ins.

Is there a group of apps based on RedHat or Ubuntu that one could use and thus avoid the malware aimed at Windows.

Apple seems to be getting more malware attention now.

The person who presents a group of apps that will be reliable, yet small enough to avoid becoming a target for Trojans and virus should do very well.

Mozilla is part way there with a good browser and Email client. All they need now is a word processor.

Moving away from windows.. what is the best aternate to turn to? TG

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By rla0001

posted May 22, 2006 - 1:21 AM

openoffice.org

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By rijp

posted May 22, 2006 - 11:45 AM

Answer: openoffice.org

Question: Name a rip off product that attempts to copy a very large software retail, and is one of the worst products to ever install on your computer?

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By PC_Tool

posted May 22, 2006 - 11:58 AM

and is one of the worst products to ever install on your computer?

Now, why don't you tell us how you really feel, rijp. ;P

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By rijp

posted May 22, 2006 - 12:09 PM

Yeah.. I think I will! hmffpt!

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By Silentmaster101

posted May 22, 2006 - 12:55 PM

i bet any amount of money that there are 100 times the number of vulns in openoffice as there are in ms office, just waiting to be found, but the user base is so small nobody cares to look in it. i mean microsoft employs hundreds of fully trained and certified coders and programmers to sit around and look for bugs and flaws all day, and openoffice has what, a few hundred semi-trained part-time coders to do the same? who do you think is going to look over there software better?

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By spiffyjeff

posted May 21, 2006 - 4:11 PM

hmmm

"I am ready to buy your product when you show me a suite of programs that are far less featured than microsoft... Moving away from windows.. what is the best aternate to turn to?"

There are always alternatives, Open Source or not. There will always be updates too. I use Suse Linux, which I really like so far.

I personally tend to use programs that work on both Windows and Linux, and in many cases, works on mac too.

"Programs that do word procession and graphics"
office suite: http://www.openoffice.org/
graphics: http://www.gimp.org/
audio: lots of programs
games: a lot of games on linux, but mostly simple graphic, puzzle / skill games
e-mail / browser: as you mentioned, Mozilla and more, but if you are looking at Linux, broadband (no dialup) will give you less trouble.

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By rijp

posted May 22, 2006 - 11:56 AM

*There are always alternatives, Open Source or not. There will always be updates too. I use Suse Linux, which I really like so far.*

Really? for what? Games? Noooo. I don't see any commercially available games for Linux. 1 strike. Compatibility? nooo.. Suse, Redhat, Caldera, Mandrak, all use different RPM's and you can't get cross platform compatibility.. strike 2. Drivers? noooo.. I don't see support for SATA 2, Blue Ray, my Logitech g7 mouse, video card drivers (native for my card), and a bunch of others. Strike 3.

Not to mention, how are you going to get your mother or grandmother to install Linux? Yeah, they are going to want to use command line to complete tasks, when they have a mouse, yea lets revert to the dark ages! Oh, boy this is fun!

NOT. Open office is a joke. convert an excel document, make some changes, save it in open office, open it with MS Office.. oh look formatting is missing, formulas are broke, same with Word, yeah, open office? Should be called close orifice, because it SUCKS!

Gimp? I think that pretty much explains it all right there!

Audio lots of prgrams? Really? Sound blaster X-Fi support? hmm.. missing!

Games on linux? there are a lot of games on linus? Umm..klondyke, solitaire, and spades dont' count dude we said GAMES not some dime store simplistic entertainment loser program, REAL games, like doom, quake, world of warcraft..

Go to gamespot.com, look up the TOP 10 games, even TOP 20, hell even Top 100 games on the PC, show me *1* *ONE* game that is a Linux game?

Don't see any? Yeah, there you go buddy, Sorry Linux may work for you, but for the rest of the world, its Windows and MAC. I would rather have a MAC before I would even CONSIDER a Linux machine. You are trying to make a dollar out of a string, linux sucks, has sucked, always will suck, but it makes people like you happy, because its NOT a Micrsoft Product, which is great if all you want is to be different, kinda like the statue of liberty blue hair look, great for parties, but isn't going to get you a second interview.

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By PC_Tool

posted May 22, 2006 - 12:07 PM

While I mostly agree....

With products such as Codeweavers and Transgaming, it is actually possible to run Windows apps and play Windows (DirectX) games. Yes, even World of Warcraft.

No grandma wouldn't use it in 100 years...but I don't see many Grandmas playing WoW, either. ;)

Hardware compatibility is actually much better than it used to be. While drivers for the most recent products (unless provided by the manufacturer) may be hard to get, drivers for 2nd tier (where most price/performance converge) are actually pretty much guaranteed.

I've never said Linux was for the Masses, and likely never will, but it is getting better.

Hell, I remember playing with yggdrasil linux. Now that was fun.

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By rijp

posted May 22, 2006 - 12:12 PM

*No grandma wouldn't use it in 100 years...but I don't see many Grandmas playing WoW, either. ;)*

Actually, there are a lot of older people playing Wow.. maybe not gradma, but it is catering to an older crowd...

*Hell, I remember playing with yggdrasil linux. Now that was fun.*

do you STILL play it? And you gave me 1 example, can you come up with a top 10 list of games to play on Linux?

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By PC_Tool

posted May 22, 2006 - 12:26 PM

Dude..

Yggdrasil isn't a game. It's a distribution. The first commercial "Plug N' Play" linux.

It was horrible.

But thanks. The fact that you didn't know that obscure liitle non-relevant factoid has now made my day. :)

I can now, with confidence, proudly proclaim that I know more about Yggdrasil Linux than rijp.

*grin*

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By zxocuteboy

posted May 20, 2006 - 10:02 PM

That is a long, long time from now.

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By rijp

posted May 22, 2006 - 11:57 AM

.... long .... long ..... long!!!

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By xyzcb1

edited May 20, 2006 - 5:49 PM

People has to responsbile for their own actions and stop blaming other for their own stupidity. Why would Microsoft be the responsible for someone who open an attachment from an unknown sender who has a subject headline "click to see xxx naked"

No program is perfect, period.

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By Alexq

posted May 21, 2006 - 1:07 PM

Yes, those who use Word have only themselves to blame...

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By rijp

posted May 22, 2006 - 11:59 AM

Oh yeah, we like to be blamed for using a product that someone else attacks makes vulernable.. yeah good one there.

So if they break a master lock, and it gets picked and they rip off your shed, I suppose Master is to blame for that too huh? They should have done more to keep thieves from figuring out how to break their lock..

That's brilliant, mr. wizard.

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By PC_Tool

posted May 22, 2006 - 12:08 PM

Sir, we must ask you to leave.

You use of logic and common sense is not wanted here.

*grin*

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By rijp

posted May 22, 2006 - 12:16 PM

*door creaks*

-looking around - "This was a nice place"

-walks silently out the door-

*door closes, creaks, and closes*

There's a roar of the crowd, you can picture the scene, put his head to the wall, and like a distant scream, he heard one guitar, and his whole life changed, now he's gonna rock it, aint never gonna stop, gonna keep on rockin' that boy has got to stay on top!

He's a juke box hero!

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By superdragonpoop

posted May 20, 2006 - 10:06 PM

I absolutely agree with you 100%. Being the designated computer fixer I've done my fair share of cleanup on infected systems. When I ask where they got these programs that infected their system they usually respond "A friend sent me a link".

People just need to be educated on safe computing practices.

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By spiffyjeff

posted May 21, 2006 - 4:13 PM

don't go to links your friends send you?

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By rijp

posted May 22, 2006 - 12:01 PM

Umm.. that's the point, mr. visual. If someone on your address book, like your mother gets a spam on her end and it sends to everyone on her address book, are you going to ASSUME its a viable, link?

I don't think so, not if you are smart. Don't EVER assume ANY attachment is safe, not even from friends, that is the point of why spammers send to your address book there stud! So that everyone they know will ASSUME its OK!

Don't you people even read?

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By vk2003

edited May 20, 2006 - 3:05 PM

There is an incredibly simple solution to this and virtually all other virus problems...

Use a Mac!

*Dons flameproof suit*

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By cubebomb

posted May 20, 2006 - 3:37 PM

Dude, Shut up!- with the mac love,
If it was the other way aorund,
" MAc with all the users that windows has"
youll be saying this

"There is an incredibly simple solution to this and virtually all other virus problems...

Use a Windows!

*Dons flameproof suit*
Baka!=

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By interested102

posted May 20, 2006 - 10:27 AM

Well, as you read, there is a massive amounts of alternitives. Like for the Office suite, there is OpenOffice. Firefox oposed to IE, Linux to Windows, Etc.

And all that I have mentioned is free or open source. (I am aware that some Linux-based operating systems cost money but they should have a free version. Anyways you get the point) ;)

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By TonyGuitaro

posted May 21, 2006 - 2:48 PM

First person who offers a basic bundle of browser, Email client, word processor and data base that is malware resistant for $49.95 is going to make LOTS of money.

Mozilla is part way there.

They just need to add a W.P. and database that are bulletproof.

What is your idea of a RELIABLE alternate suite to Windows.

Billy Gates is doing his best to be nice to me,[the little guy], but he is too successful and thus a main target.

I need a low profile alternate so as not too waste so much time on cleaning malware.

I see a mess of unfinished possible alternates out there, Redhat, Ubuntu, Mac, Mozzilla, what would you choose?

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By PC_Tool

posted May 21, 2006 - 5:09 PM

Depends on how serious you are.

I'd suggest Apple for most who 'just want to get away'. There is a slight learning curve (more of an un-learning curve, actually), but it's the closest you'll get, and the userbase/devbase is growing.

I would *only* suggest Linux if you needed to utilize server functiosn (Web, email, domain), etc...

No matter the progress they've made in the last many years, it's still not a desktop OS for the masses, IMO.

If you do decide to go Linux, and really stick it to the man(s), go Ubuntu and wait for Dapper to be released. Many of the programs out there to make it useable by Widnows converts (MP3 playing abilities, video codecs, etc...) aren't releasing Dapper versions until it's final ((Last I checked.... Still running Breezy here)

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By spiffyjeff

posted May 21, 2006 - 4:24 PM

First I would choose Suse, or Redhat (fedora) because they are nice systems, open source (not that i'm a programmer)

Apple would be my 2nd choice. 2nd because it is not open source and because it costs more, but you will have way less to worry about than windows. Also easy to use, but a disadvantage to just about anything easy to use ends up with less possible configuration/settings to change.

Currently, I use all three, just to learn them.

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By jspratjr

posted May 20, 2006 - 12:26 PM

The fact a word processing program can be used as a gateway to a computer is ridiculous and Microsoft products are pathetic on the security side is well known but don't infer the "alternatives" are immune to vulnerabilities as well...that's hardly the case.

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By JacenSolo

posted May 20, 2006 - 9:24 AM

This is getting annoying... Why is it no longer safe to use our own computers.

Microsoft Word or not. Windows or not. We shouldn't have to live in fear of a virus.

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By interested102

posted May 20, 2006 - 10:27 AM

Well, as you read, there is a massive amounts of alternitives. Like for the Office suite, there is OpenOffice. Firefox oposed to IE, Linux to Windows, Etc.

And all that I have mentioned is free or open source. (I am aware that some Linux-based operating systems cost money but they should have a free version. Anyways you get the point) ;)

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By Metshrine

posted May 21, 2006 - 5:29 AM

Wow, can you say troll? Linux has FAR MORE vulnerabilities in most of its software than windows software does. I can show you my security newsletter folder filled with linux vulns that I get sent to me daily. Dont act like open source is the holy grail and that none of the software has holes, because if you truely believe it, you need to get out of your fantasy world

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By bostonma

posted May 21, 2006 - 12:12 PM

Please show me!
Linux by its very structure is less
prone/susceptible to vulnerabilities
than Windows.
I'd be fascinated to see your list!

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By Metshrine

posted May 21, 2006 - 1:37 PM

Does that mean the software contained therein is too? go to securnia.com and look for yourself, subscribe to their windows and linux daily lists, see how many more vulns in linux and its software you find compared to windows.

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By Metshrine

posted May 20, 2006 - 9:41 AM

Welcome to the world of the internet. If you want to be totally safe, unplug the cable from your nic card and only install software in cd or disk form from known safe sources. Then, you should be pretty safe

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By morriscox

posted May 24, 2006 - 8:13 PM

When you're ready, leave the world of the internet and try out the world of the Internet. :D

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By p0rt1s

posted May 20, 2006 - 9:15 AM

Just use OpenOffice. Case solved.

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By Silentmaster101

posted May 22, 2006 - 1:16 PM

oh yes until grandmother who knows zip about computers trys to do something, doesnt know how to do it and tries to call for support. last time i checked most casual users dont know how to post on forums for problems, or even have the idea to google or yahoo for an answer, and on top of that, openoffice has only 20% of the features office 2003 does, and isnt accepted in 99% of places you need to use office for. do you think a real estate agent can use open office to make a formal letter that will look professional? or perhaps you would like to try to make a resume to email to a future employer, you think that when they cant open it, or they do open it and it looks like crap, that they are going to give you a job? i dont think so. so if you think that open office is a viable solution for anyone other than the computer literate student, then you are mistaken.

i find it hard to believe that any type of open source software will ever become mainstream just because of lack of support for casual users, lack of compatability and lack of publicity. i mean when is the last time you have seen a tv commercial for linux or openoffice or firefox? who would pay for them anyway? sure they may be more secure then windows or office... temporarily, at least before a vuln is found or a patch is released, but they are just not a ideal or even feasable solution for the majarity of users out there.

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By wat0114

edited May 20, 2006 - 9:16 AM

“…The exploit is spread as a Word document attached to an e-mail. Users who open the attachment with Word XP and Word 2003 are then infected with a Trojan…”

Well, there you go: the most important security measure to prevent this is already in place, the one that sits between the chair and the keyboard. In other words, anyone with a modicum of common sense will not launch an attachment they aren’t expecting, though, admittedly, there is always the danger of one relying too heavily on their antivirus. It certainly pays to read the email subject field, message body (hint: look for spelling and grammar errors) and who it’s from. Having a little knowledge interpreting the Internet headers in the message properties can help too.

"The Office team is hard at work on an update that addresses the vulnerability. It's in testing right now to make sure it's of the right quality for release," said Microsoft security researcher Stephen Toulouse. "Right now we're on schedule to be released as part of the June security updates on June 13, 2006, or sooner as warranted."

Besides being hard at work on developing an update, perhaps the most important part of the message is “It’s in testing right now to make sure it’s of the right quality for release”. I certainly don’t want an update that may resolve the virus but at the expense of crippling my system.

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By Kramy

posted May 19, 2006 - 10:02 PM

"Besides being hard at work on developing an update, perhaps the most important part of the message is “It’s in testing right now to make sure it’s of the right quality for release”. I certainly don’t want an update that may resolve the virus but at the expense of crippling my system."

Hmm...unless they're doing something new since 2005, we can look forward to system crippling anyway. :P

Teams containing a single person develop more properly working patches and service packs than MS does. >_< I like how their first update rollup for Win2k crippled power management so that laptops drain their batteries in 20 minutes. That was a definite plus over using a third-party service pack from some guy we've never met... :P

No, no - I'm not bitter!

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By Metshrine

posted May 21, 2006 - 5:31 AM

You say a single person can do it better, why dont you try developing patches and testing them to ensure they work on a million different possible hardware configurations and so that they dont interfere with the home-brewed app that joe-nobody has developed using his copy of vb6. When you do that, then I will listen to your whining about MS Patches.

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By Kramy

posted May 21, 2006 - 3:53 PM

People often can do better. It's not uncommon for a single person to come up with work-arounds for flaws with MS hotfixes....though usually it's a different person every time.

I think the issue is MS doesn't care about Win2k anymore, which makes it a lot easier to do better than them. :P

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By Metshrine

posted May 22, 2006 - 4:00 AM

Its not that they dont care about 2k, its that 2k has reached its end of support life cycle stage. If you knew anything about software development, you would know that a company can only support a product so long before they have to move on. Just because some company choose to not upgrade doesnt mean MS should support them. If that were the case, windows 95 would still be supported since some companies feel "Hey, it still works".

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By bourgeoisdude

posted May 23, 2006 - 12:19 PM

On that note--is anyone still using OpenOffice.org version 1.x because "it works fine"? How about Firefox 1.1x because "it is more stable"?

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By extremely well

edited May 19, 2006 - 7:20 PM

I downloaded some warez proggie and the installation instructions were a DOC file. I found it unusual but opened anyway :(
(it did contain a lot of screenshots)
That was two weeks ago tho.

I'll fish it out and email to virustotal.com for exhaustive analysis (multiple engines) every few days (new defs) just to be on the safe side :)

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By GoodThings2Life

posted May 19, 2006 - 7:20 PM

So you did something illegal and incompetent, and you got a virus as your reward. How completely amusing.

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By extremely well

posted May 19, 2006 - 7:24 PM

I'm glad to make you happy. It always makes me happy too thinking about you (and your likes) working that extra shift to pad Adobe and Microsoft's pockets... ;)

Very slim chances I got infected. But if so, no biggie... Will manage.

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By JacenSolo

posted May 20, 2006 - 9:24 AM

Pirating is just wrong. I hope you got what you paid for. (Nothing)

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By spiffyjeff

posted May 21, 2006 - 6:48 PM

"copy protection" is wrong too. Seriously, I wish people didn't pirate, i'm sure a lot more people would be using open source if they didn't.

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By extremely well

posted May 20, 2006 - 3:35 PM

Thanks to the heavens I did get nothing (no virus).

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By Silentmaster101

posted May 22, 2006 - 1:32 PM

ill just wait around for the bsa to ask betanews for your ip and take it from there.

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By PC_Tool

edited May 22, 2006 - 4:28 PM

I'lla dmit the BSA are bas****s, but I thought it was the NSA that collected public information without prior consent....

(Internet addresses are public, FYI...you broadcast the friggin thing for pete's sake)

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By Silentmaster101

posted May 23, 2006 - 8:24 AM

yeah but ive heard the bsa sticks to policy like they have a stick up their ass....

as long as the policy is in their favor that is.

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By bourgeoisdude

posted May 19, 2006 - 6:59 PM

Yup, virus is definately in the wild too...

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By Joe Dirt

posted May 19, 2006 - 6:42 PM

Very nice.

I love how it will not be patched until June 13th.

Hahahaha.

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By GoodThings2Life

posted May 19, 2006 - 7:19 PM

I love how you ignore the rest of the sentence attached to that statement... the part that reads "or sooner as warranted." If they need to release it sooner, they will. Otherwise, let the antivirus programs deal with what they do best.

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By Kramy

posted May 19, 2006 - 9:57 PM

It's already being exploited, so...there's not much that could make it more warranted.

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By extremely well

posted May 19, 2006 - 7:22 PM

He's right. MS has conflicting interests now. They now may want you to feel INSECURE by "standard Windows auto-updates" coming too late, so you SUBSCRIBE to their PAID OneCare security package. That could and should raise red flags.

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By Aprazeth

posted May 20, 2006 - 5:33 AM

Windows live Security scanner is also available as a part for Windows Live Messenger (only scans attachments from WLM) and for free use at http://safety.live.com

What I find amusing is that some people are under the impression that microsoft is deliberately withholding this fix or patch.

Apparently NONE of you have any experience in the programming field - because you would then know better then releasing a half-tested patch that would in the end cripple your defense or system in another way.

Sometimes it makes better BUSINESS-sense to withhold a patch for a known issue, then to issue a patch that may induce a NEW one. That last scenario will make you look twice as incompetent.

Besides, nobody thinks that Symantecs advise is somewhat curious... Block all Word-Documents? Our sales- legal- HRM- and operational departements will love that!

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By mjm01010101

posted May 20, 2006 - 9:17 PM

They'd also love it if they couldn't get any work done. Blocking .doc isn't all thatt intrusive given the potential impact this could have on a corporations bottom line.

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By Aprazeth

posted May 21, 2006 - 2:36 PM

Very true.

In all due respect - all security is null when the user is not aware. We, being the IT Professionals, enthusiasts and what not else, should (start to) educate (new) users and make them aware of the risks they are potentially getting in to.

Asides, a simple spam-filter also seems to do the trick for these emails.

Blocking .doc is intrusive. Resumes and what not else are 99.9% of the time done in DOC. So there is no definative solution indeed. Just be on our toes :)

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By Silentmaster101

posted May 22, 2006 - 1:36 PM

if only educating them was as easy as it is to say.

*sigh*

it would also be easier if they listened to us...

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By PC_Tool

posted May 22, 2006 - 4:28 PM

*sticks fingers in ears*

na-na-na-na-la-la-la-la!

I'm not listeniiiiing!

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