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Dell Dangerously Delays 3Q Report

By Scott M. Fulton, III, BetaNews

November 16, 2006, 12:36 PM

Perhaps hoping the spirit of thanksgiving in the financial arena will help the company slip past the wary eyes of both the US Securities and Exchange Commission and the NASDAQ stock exchange, Dell announced today – on the day its fiscal third quarter 2007 report was due – that it will be delayed yet again to sometime toward the end of this month.

Already, Dell’s second quarter 10-Q filing was delayed, although it did go forth with its quarterly earnings call to analysts last August. The problem is with two realities of accounting, which may be continuing to drift further apart: Dell may be among those companies that, at least some years back, failed to report the value of options granted to senior executives as expenses. The company has yet to state how far back the practice may have extended, nor who may have benefited from the alleged practice, though other targets of the SEC’s ongoing investigation – including Apple and nVidia – have been more forthcoming.

The reason for Dell’s relative silence could very well be that it doesn’t know. “The move from the originally scheduled date of November 16 reflects the level of complexity the company is facing in the preparation of its preliminary results,” the company stated this morning. “This complexity arises out of the ongoing investigations by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and the company’s Audit Committee into certain accounting and financial reporting matters, and the fact the company has not filed its Form 10-Q for the second fiscal quarter.”

Shares of Dell rose in early morning trading, in anticipation of what analysts were saying could be not-so-bad numbers. While net margins have declined from 6.5% at the middle of last year to an estimated 5.0% in August (without a 10-Q on hand, it’s hard to know for sure), analysts were expecting Dell executives to say today that sales volume increased.

But the company’s announcement today that its earnings report, when it does come, will be in the form of a press release only, sounded very ominous. Who knows how much information will come from just a press release, without analysts’ questions? And there’s more that can be implied from that sentence: A third quarter 10-Q is probably unlikely this year.

The fact that Dell is facing complexities arising from this investigation that others have not, could be an indication that the SEC is expanding its probe into Dell further, according to a Lehman Brothers analyst this morning. The SEC itself isn’t helping, by refusing to say how long the extended probe could extend.

Already, Dell has received one notice threatening delisting from the NASDAQ stock exchange, though its appeal of that notice enabled the company to effectively delay its reporting...until today. A further delay could be historic, in a bad way, for Dell and its shareholders. While analysts continue to emphasize their “buy” ratings for the stock, it presumes shares can actually be bought.

Dell stock value tumbled as much as 4% in early trading on the NASDAQ exchange Thursday. HP, meanwhile, is expected to post its fiscal fourth quarter earnings report later this afternoon, where that company is expected to gloss right over its recent managerial troubles to focus on much-improved shipments and revenue numbers.

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By dougau

edited Nov 19, 2006 - 10:32 PM

Dude, your going to jail!

But really add to bourgeoisdude's post the fact that when you call it takes hours to get through to Dave who can't speak a word of English and the XPS 700 mess. That about sums it up.

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By bourgeoisdude

edited Nov 18, 2006 - 12:16 PM

...Dell is in serious financial trouble. Reason? They tried to compete in an area that they have never been in before--the super-cheap PC realm. They finally ruined their reputation worldwide just enough to convince almost everyone to buy anything except Dell for this Christmas, I'm sure. Shame, too, Dell is such a great company, but recently, their consumer marketing and support has been nothing short of crap.

When I worked for them, I tried my best to warn them--but as a lowley L1 Relationship (meaning business, school, and government) phone technician I was insignificant.

They began the problem with their Dimension 2400's--trying so hard to match the competition's price at $399 USD, some were sold with only 128MB of RAM and Windows XP, yet there was 8MB or more in shared video memory. I needn't say how awful those were. They corrected this later, but the unit had many potential issues with some of the hard drives they had started using in late 2003 and early to mid-2004. Cutting costs here and there in the consumer support department and also selling Dimension 2400's under BUSINESS contracts killed their reputation as a reliable, dependable PC manufacturer. Even worse, some Optiplexes were plagued with bad batches of hard drives, motherboard capacitors, and in late 2004, handfuls of bad heatsinks for their GX280 towers using 3.0GHz to 3.4GHz Pentium 4 Prescott processors.

Combined with their failure to sell enough MP3 players in 2005, the declining profit margins of their "basic" PC sales, and the number of people expecting the Dell of 2001 to support them even though the PCs cost $900 or more then when they were $300 now--it killed their reputation, wasted their money, and ruined their workforce by refusing to pay employees at American outsourced callcenters enough to continue their Dell support contracts--they killed themselves.

When it comes to warrenty, I still think Dell has the best warrenty options, but the problem is that you have to know how to get them. If you buy from the consumer home/home office division, support will be crap, but Small business/office division will be 500 times better. Unfortunately, their hardware reliability is still less than it was in 2001, as they now 'prefer' to use Samsung drives in almost all desktop PCs. They aren't horrid like certain others, but every once in a while there's DOA drives, more often than there should be.

Dell has blown it, even while I was constantly begging them to reconsider their 'value system' prices/features. Dell should never have made any PCs to sell for less than $600. Other problems contributed to their fall, but that was the straw that broke their backs. I am sorely disappointed that they have allowed this to happen to them...

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By ds0934

edited Nov 17, 2006 - 10:26 PM

That was hilarious. We should all bow to the objectivity king.

"an area that they have never been in before--the super-cheap PC realm" ???

That's where Dell started. When did they ever attempt anything else until the past few years? JIT was their key mode of operation and it worked well for a long time. Corporate clientelle fell in love with it. Then HP and the others copied it and now they're scrambling to find a new niche. Like I said earlier: they need to either start innovating or liquidating.

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By pickchevy

edited Nov 17, 2006 - 6:16 PM

LOL! Thanks for the authority on objectivity.

The rest were probably just having fun. You remember fun?

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By bourgeoisdude

posted Nov 18, 2006 - 12:16 PM

Geez people, I was speaking of the "dell sux" post and such--

(reads his post again) Oh, okay--the way I just blurt it out there does make me sound like an arrogant @#$%. I'll fix that now.

By the way, Dell started in the cheap realm, yes, then they left it in the late 90's. Up until about 2002, you couldn't find a Dell for less than $1000. Now, the $300 PCs are their big sellers, sadley. They emphasized the cheap PCs too much and did not promote the big stuff (well, they did for XPS systems, but the Gen 4 and later seem to have had problems with hard drives, cdroms, cpu heatsinks, and even ram slot problems quite a bit above normal failure rates, so they burned there too).

The fact is their profit per sale has dropped significantly in their attempts to have highly competitive prices. This is normally great, but not when the reliability and warrenty quality support is sacrificed. Consumers aren't as stupid about this as they are about computers--they know Dell has significantly lowered prices withen the past few years, and can tell that the prices are lower because the quality and service are lower as well. Even if it was not the case, it certainly looks that way to us, so either way Dell looks bad.

Again, if I have to buy a PC for a friend/company/etc., and they want a brand name system or I cannot build one for them, Dell is still my first choice. However, they are heading downhill slowley, and it may not be long before even I switch to someone else. I can't stick with dell because I love the company they used to be--I sincerely hope they get their act back together.

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By ogman

posted Nov 18, 2006 - 4:18 PM

"I love the company they used to be"

I totally agree with that and I too wish they would become the company they once were. Unfortunately business seems to have changed. Competence is out in favor of cheap, support is designed to encourage the customer NOT to use it, and the customer is nowhere near the top of the priority list. What really concerns me is that companies take this path, lose money and customers, and just don't seem to care. No thought is given to improving the product or the support, just cutting costs. I don't get it and I don't know where it ends. I do know that I buy a whole lot less technology now, though.

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By bourgeoisdude

posted Nov 20, 2006 - 1:56 PM

"What really concerns me is that companies take this path, lose money and customers, and just don't seem to care. No thought is given to improving the product or the support, just cutting costs. I don't get it and I don't know where it ends. I do know that I buy a whole lot less technology now, though."

My personal opinion? The higher-ups tend to want quick-money, so they get their share as long as they can remain at the top then they cut and run with all the savings, screwing the company and the customers. I've seen that happen lots in other companies--only time will tell if that's what Dell is doing.

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By Black-Wolf

posted Nov 17, 2006 - 1:43 PM

DELL sux.

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By pickchevy

edited Nov 18, 2006 - 4:19 PM

"Dell is facing complexities" = They got their a$$ in a jam?

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By drumcat

posted Nov 16, 2006 - 3:22 PM

http://www.illwillpress.com/tech2.html

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By Tenoq

posted Nov 16, 2006 - 6:40 PM

Ah, another Foamy fan. :)

It does remind you of Dell, doesn`t it?

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By ds0934

posted Nov 16, 2006 - 3:10 PM

The days of Dell dominating JIT PC marketing are gone. HP and the others have adopted the same backend processes and reduced their operating margins within points of Dell, sometimes beating theirs. Dell is facing a choice of committing to true "innovation" or finding another niche. Commodity marketing will only last so long before the competition catches up.

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By bourgeoisdude

posted Nov 17, 2006 - 5:30 PM

They tried to excel in too many unknown areas at once, when all they needed was to maintain their distant lead in their business desktops and laptop divisions, as well as server divisions. Nope, they had to make crappy printers, super cheap Dimensions, 90-day warrenties (Dell was best because of their warrenty, so why not ruin their most successful selling point?)--they screwed themselves big-time.

Their software/faq/knowledge base/bios updates are still the best today, by far, but unfortunately, that isn't enough to save them. It is enough for ME, but not for home users.

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By Alex Stevens

posted Nov 16, 2006 - 2:26 PM

Dude, you're gettin' an investigation.

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By drumcat

posted Nov 16, 2006 - 1:04 PM

deep doo doo...

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