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HP enters the low-cost student PC market, but is $499 too much?

By Michael Hatamoto, BetaNews

April 8, 2008, 4:30 PM

Hewlett-Packard today announced a new low-priced $499 mini-notebook aimed at school students and business professionals wanting a small, low-cost system capable of withstanding the kinds of punishment that only a school can dish out.

The HP 2133 Mini-Note is the latest effort by the world's #1 PC maker to approach a market with still very little competition, though with very high growth potential.

The base model will ship with the SUSE Linux operating system, 1.2 GHz VIA C7 processor, 8.9-in. WXGA screen, 802.11 Wi-Fi, and a Bluetooth option. It's said to weigh somewhere in the neighborhood of two and one-half pounds. HP chose an aluminum shell and scratch resistant screen, and added a clear coating to help protect the keys and ensure system is less likely to be damaged if tossed around or dropped.

HP's 2133 Mini-NoteHP expects the 2133 Mini-Note PC to be available later this month for $499. That price tag could limit the number of school districts that can afford the system, especially since the Mini-Note comes with an OS but does not have any bundled software. There's no word yet as to volume discounts. An upgraded version for $599 will ship with Microsoft Windows Vista Business, 2 GB memory and a 6-cell battery, and will be available at the same time as the basic system.

Computer makers and hardware manufacturers dabbling in low-cost PCs and notebooks for students in developing nations have had varying levels of success over the past two or so years of activity. The One Laptop Per Child, Asus EE PC, and Intel Classmate PC are examples of popular projects have similar products aimed at students worldwide, but HP's immediate plans are to release the 2133 to school districts in the United States, United Kingdom, and Canada. Outside of school students and business professionals, HP did not disclose plans to offer the Mini-Note PC to low-income families who receive help through federal grants or a local municipal program.

Dell is expected to announce a similar product in the next two quarters, though a price point has not been released.

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By gyanspeed

edited Apr 14, 2008 - 2:39 PM

i am gyanu, i have a desktop pc. but i want laptop to work in collage. may u imform about laptop's requirments and rate of low rate laptop.

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By philosopher_dog

posted Apr 9, 2008 - 8:39 PM

Yes a $600 Dell Inspiron with a 17 inch screen is comparable to this machine! Check it out. You can't even get through a doorway with that monster, plastic, fire hazard POS. You're comparing apples and oranges. This is ultra portable. Check out competing price tags on machines with similar specs before posting. Find something under 3 pounds that has similar capacity: 120 gig HD, etc. Nothing comes anywhere close. Certainly nothing from the Dell world. But they threaten to make something. They're going to have a hard time making something as good.

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By GS5

posted Apr 9, 2008 - 3:38 PM

My girlfriend just bought a 17" Core2 Duo Dell Inspiron for $650. So anyone that would pay $600 for that POS deserves it.

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By Diam0nd

posted Apr 9, 2008 - 1:54 PM

They should lower the price to AT LEAST 300, for that kind of weak-a*s configuration. That's one. Two, what kind of idiot decided to put suse there? I mean good lord, havent they heard of Ubuntu? THE most user-friendly and advanced linux around.

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By philosopher_dog

posted Apr 9, 2008 - 12:22 PM

It looks like those macs that still sell for $800 used. This 1 laptop per child idea is paying off with some interesting options. I think this looks better than the asus machine. It's metal for starters. The price seems fair, but it should ship with xp.

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By xyzcb1

posted Apr 9, 2008 - 12:19 PM

Gee, Acer and Toshiba offers Vista laptop 14" and 15" with dual core at 399 all the time. Now HP offer Via C7 with Linux for 499?

For 499, you can get a D2C from Dell and instead whatever you want on it.

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By fewt

posted Apr 9, 2008 - 8:13 AM

Process to make this useful:

1. Take off Vista
2. Remove 1.5GB of memory
3. Install Ubuntu or XP Home
4. Lower the price $200

If this is really targeted at students, they don't need anything special, they need to be able to run Open Office, and whatever else is required to do school work.

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By gregmlr

posted Apr 9, 2008 - 10:12 AM

It doesn't come with Vista, it comes with SUSE Linux, which is more of a good thing IMO.

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By fewt

posted Apr 9, 2008 - 10:35 AM

Hmm.. My bad I read it wrong. Still, it needs to drop $200 before it's useful.

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By God Dammit

posted Apr 9, 2008 - 5:19 AM

SUSE Linux is the buggiest Linux distribution available. Under OpenSUSE Linux 10.3 when I install NVIDIA's proprietary graphics driver and enable the visual effects such as the wobbling windows for example, the title bar no longer appears on any new windows I open regardless of which application I'm running. This means I can't move or resize windows at all. Disabling all of the visual effects doesn't fix the problem. The problem is NOT caused by NVIDIA's proprietary graphics driver. If I use the same version of NVIDIA's graphics driver on Fedora Linux 8 everything works perfectly when all of the visual effects are enabled.

Also, the package manager that OpenSUSE Linux 10.3 uses by default has significant difficulties resolving dependencies when installing software compared to other Linux distributions.

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By PC_Tool

posted Apr 9, 2008 - 9:25 AM

Wow.

Pas it around, man. That must be some good stuff.

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By preinterpost

posted Apr 9, 2008 - 9:16 AM

Right... What are you going on about..?

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By God Dammit

posted Apr 9, 2008 - 2:42 PM

It's easier to do a stage 1 install of Gentoo Linux than to set up Novell's SUSE Linux. Worst Linux distribution ever.

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By preinterpost

posted Apr 9, 2008 - 3:45 PM

I sure hope this comes nicely pre-installed and not just with a URL where the parents can download the distro....

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By Diam0nd

posted Apr 9, 2008 - 2:37 AM

The only thing I like about this one is its size.
But $500? Are they insane?! I wonder if they checked the prices at any nearby shop, since I can get a pretty nice notebook for that 500 already ;|

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By methuselah

posted Apr 9, 2008 - 1:18 AM

You say SuSE has no bundled software, but doesn't it come with OpenOffice? Aren't there many free OpenSource apps for it? Perhaps you meant to say the more expensive Windows version doesn't have a full office program and the like?

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By Tenoq

posted Apr 8, 2008 - 10:19 PM

Vista on a 1.2Ghz VIA processor? You've got to be freakin' insane. Vista runs slow enough on P4 and older A64 processors - let alone a low power, low performance VIA chip.

As a Linux box it's got a chance - depending on battery life and storage capbilities. $499 is probably where the 9" eeepc is going to hit the market too.

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By siryak

posted Apr 8, 2008 - 7:06 PM

I wouldn't pay $200 for that much less $500!!!

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By Neoprimal

posted Apr 8, 2008 - 4:58 PM

1.2 ghz Via processor? Geez. Imho, it's pointless at that price point seeing as how if you time it right...hell, if you check out any Best Buy laptop sale, you'll find a $499 laptop that trumps this thing. As I was saying, if you time it right however, you can get a real bang for your buck deal for $499 as they switch up the laptops offered weekly. This is without rebates and had been going on for years as far as I can tell. Sure, it won't be 3 or 4lbs, but when you're a student you rarely worry about backpack weight....I'd be more worried that I get a zippy system with an OS I'm comfortable with that can install all the software that comes with my books and such.

These low cost laptops aren't truly low cost until you're talking about a 300-400 solution.

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By Maymne

posted Apr 8, 2008 - 6:07 PM

Based on the comment on damage to the system, I'm thinking their target are the HS students and younger, not college... As such, the power becomes somewhat less important than just having it survive. :) It sounds like their goal was durability, not necessarily making it cutting edge. Or even cutting centre. *coughs*

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By Neoprimal

posted Apr 8, 2008 - 11:57 PM

LOL

I agree with you, but either way that doesn't mean they should charge that price for it. I mean if you think about it, a laptop, is a laptop, is a laptop. Apart from toughbooks and revolutionary changes such as those made to the olpc (even though those also get ravaged by kids), you're going to get something that..ok, may not scratch easily, but WILL scratch, may not crack easily, but WILL crack if the g-force is there to back it up. So how about just tell the kid that he/she is grounded for 6 months if they mistreat their laptop and send em off to school? Remember, parents right now are already buying 1000+ machines for their high schoolers...and the majority survive. Low cost shouldn't mean low power, because in a real world scenerio that's not the case (anymore).

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By preinterpost

edited Apr 8, 2008 - 4:54 PM

Are you sure about the Vista Business version? Sounds unreasonable for this kind of machine, exp since MSFT extended the life span of XP for minis.

(never mind - it's listed on the HP site)

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By carlo.schmidt

edited Apr 8, 2008 - 5:46 PM

its very true, for 499 or 599 you can get a awesome deal at sites like newegg or tigerdirect. It would have to be more around the 200 mark to make it attractive

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By preinterpost

posted Apr 9, 2008 - 9:15 AM

I meant the OS, not the price. The price is fine for me if it's a high quality part and considering the form factor.

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