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Illegal File Sharing Drops Post Grokster

By Nate Mook, BetaNews

December 14, 2005, 5:20 PM

According to research firm NPD Group, illegal peer-to-peer file sharing has dropped for the first time since the RIAA began its legal assault in 2003. Since that initial victory, P2P usage has only gone up -- until the June U.S. Supreme Court ruling against Grokster.

In June, an estimated 6.4 million United States households downloaded at least one music file, but by October that number had dipped to 5.7 million, an 11 percent decrease. NPD says the change is the first significant drop it has seen that is not related to "seasonality," such as students returning to school.

The firm largely attributed the drop to the record and entertainment industry's victory against file sharing service Grokster in June. The Supreme Court ruled that Grokster and other P2P networks can be held liable for the actions of their users, depending on how they market their services.

Grokster officially shut its doors in November, joining WinMX and eDonkey, and agreed to pay $50 million to settle music and movie piracy claims. Grokster, like iMesh, has plans to resurface as a legit music download network utilizing technology from its new parent company Mashboxx.

StreamCast Networks, maker of Morpheus and Kazaa owner Sharman Networks have pledged to continue their legal battle against the RIAA and MPAA, although it's unclear how long the two P2P services will remain standing.

But despite the decrease in terms of P2P usage, the number of actual files being traded has gone up since June from 258 million to 266 million. NPD said the difference indicates that major file swappers -- the small percentage of users sharing the vast majority of content -- have not given up.

Also, it's not clear how many users have moved away from public networks to private ones, which are harder to monitor and track. With BitTorrent quickly becoming the new file sharing standard, closed groups have formed around the technology to keep the prying eyes of the RIAA out.

According to another research firm, BigChampagne, illicit P2P use continues to rise, even after the June Grokster decision. The number of average global users peaked above 9.5 million in August and remains over 9 million, say the company's statistics, which are compiled by counting unique nodes and files on popular networks.

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By debonair

posted Dec 15, 2005 - 1:56 PM

I'm guessing more crap has gone underground , and like cory1492 said, the availability of the legal cheap stuff probably does it's share. itunes and yahoo music is after all a big market

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By John_Bedin

posted Dec 15, 2005 - 1:09 PM

P2P is alive and well here in Europe. Prostitution is illegal in most of the United States of Ameri-KaIn Europe we have decided that a more tolerant attitude is needed. Idem for drugs. The RIAA IS FIGHTING A LOSING BATTLE. DO YOU AMERICANS REMEMBER PROHIBITION ?

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By debonair

posted Dec 15, 2005 - 1:54 PM

hey man, the government of america doesn't speak for the people anymore... you really think bush could win anything if it was fair game?

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By Austin814

posted Dec 15, 2005 - 12:44 PM

The only way the RIAA will get what they are after is when they work with the government and add a "P2P Tax" to the tax bill and instead of sue everyone, tax everyone. I think they need to sue libraries, the Media centers at college libraries allow students to go get the whole CD and copy it, then bring it back to the library, then it acts like a legal copy.

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By wincement

edited Dec 15, 2005 - 12:48 PM

Yeah... try enforcing a tax on an activity that's already supposed to be illegal.

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By John_Bedin

posted Dec 15, 2005 - 1:10 PM

WINCEMENT SEI UNO STRONZO !!!

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By wincement

edited Dec 15, 2005 - 3:17 PM

What the heck is a stronzo?

and did you have anything ON topic to say?

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By citizen420

edited Dec 15, 2005 - 3:51 PM

http://www.wordreference.com/iten/stronzo
you should be more offended, lol

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By wincement

posted Dec 15, 2005 - 4:14 PM

Thanks for the link.

"you should be more offended"

Nah. Not worth my time.

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By citizen420

edited Dec 15, 2005 - 10:18 AM

Most ppl I know including my self have moved on to BitTorrent, leaving the poisoned FastTrack protocol behind. I still use the Direct Connect network some times, via nmdc.

I dont see why anyone would use FastTrack (kazaa, grokster, etc..) anymore, when there are so mutch better alternatives out there.

This is why the RIAA and MPAA etc. are just effecting ignorant p2p users who dont know any better, but theyl learn.....

"n June, an estimated 6.4 million United States households downloaded at least one music file, but by October that number had dipped to 5.7 million,"

....The 0.7 mill drop is probably just 11,12 and 13 year olds, who dont know the alternatives.

MESSAGE TO THE RECORD AND MOVIE INDUSTRY......

YOU CANT WIN!!!!!

citizen420,
official pirate.

[edit]oh yea, almost forgot to say, these numbers seem way offfffffff! its atleast 2x as mutch for the US, and probably 500 mill for the rest of the world.

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By sjc001

posted Dec 15, 2005 - 6:40 AM

The RIAA got these numbers the same way they came up with the numbers of how much they claim the music industry is losing from downloading. They made them up.

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By cousinkix1953

edited Dec 15, 2005 - 5:52 AM

BitTorrent is the true P2P network, with no www.archive.org servers that cached hundreds of thousands of music files.

And more people began using BitTorrents since the GRATEFUL DEAD sold out to the RIAA and began fighting amongst themselves to start the THANKSGIVING holidays.

That stuff isn't gonna disappear overnight after 30 years of Jerry Garcia encouring piracy and another decade of ambivolence...

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By JacenSolo

posted Dec 15, 2005 - 4:02 AM

You can never stop P2P.

The whole nature of P2P is just that. Serverless.

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By Niro

posted Dec 15, 2005 - 12:54 AM

lol...so it dropped from 6.4 million to 5.7 million huh? So .7 million people decided they're not going to tell the RIAA that they're downloading files anymore just incase they decide to start suing again....nah that can't be. :)

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By rijp

posted Dec 14, 2005 - 10:34 PM

Personally, I think its a false positive. Its like smoking is down in teenagers for the first time in 20 years, yeah BS!!!

The teens SAY they don't smoke, because they know the pressure is on, same with P2P, they WANT to believe the RIAA is having an impact, but people are finding more creative ways to hide files..

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By Comit

posted Dec 14, 2005 - 8:31 PM

How the heck are they getting these "6.4 million" statistics? Looks like utter BS to me...considering right now there's 14 million people on emule alone at the time of this post.

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By wincement

posted Dec 15, 2005 - 12:51 PM

That's what I was wondering. It seems like literally every connected computer user file-shares (excluding myself - except for Linux distros).

I would think somewhere closer to 100 million in the U.S. alone...

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By improvelence

posted Dec 14, 2005 - 11:21 PM

Hahahahahahahaa

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By cory1492

posted Dec 14, 2005 - 7:49 PM

??eh?
So you mean to say that illegal filesharing hasn't gone down a tad due to the existance of legal pay-per-tune services like ITunes and Napster - that its simply the RIAA and MPAA's fear tactics that causes such things?

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By debonair

posted Dec 15, 2005 - 1:52 PM

you're probably right. the availability of it legally through easy channels is probably a factor.

It was just easier to get it on p2p than legally earlier, and since people are inherantly lazy...

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By fusionspill

posted Dec 14, 2005 - 6:36 PM

is it just more or has it been really slow in december on anything new being released on P2P

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By Floodland

posted Dec 14, 2005 - 6:35 PM

Yeah, SUREEE. And US is also winning the Irak war... Dream on.

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By roj

edited Dec 14, 2005 - 5:53 PM

They're fantasizing - plain and simple, trying to prop up the failing image of their "countermeasures". I have news for them: this is the age of the Internet. No more secrets, no more lies.

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By BadIronTree

posted Dec 14, 2005 - 5:43 PM

hahaahahahhaahhah
you kill one 10 will pop up

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By TCP

edited Dec 14, 2005 - 5:36 PM

LoL...

Does the US really think it will ever win the battle of P2P file sharing?

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By ravindimantha

posted Dec 14, 2005 - 9:14 PM

Make that 23.2 million users on eMule

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By jjdavis

posted Dec 15, 2005 - 11:23 AM

Yeah, I took a peak on eMule last week ... it seems stronger than ever. Am I wrong?

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By aussie1

edited Dec 15, 2005 - 5:55 AM

I wonder how long the clowns at RIAA took to decide what figures they would engineer to justify their miserable existence.

They are going the way of the dinosaur, dying out because of lack of brains, and they don't know how to exist in a changing world.

BTW, did you know that 79.85% of all statistics and 'facts' are made up? LOL

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By kholdstare

posted Dec 15, 2005 - 12:45 PM

"BTW, did you know that 79.85% of all statistics and 'facts' are made up? LOL"

yea don't know what to beleave these days. i head a report that with the economy we live in today it would cost over $18,000 to buy everything that is mentioned in the christmas song "12 days of christmas".

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By Fickleflame

posted Dec 15, 2005 - 8:58 AM

Fact: Even though you must now buy your MP3's online, the artists are still getting screwed. This time it by their employer again.

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By wincement

posted Dec 15, 2005 - 12:54 PM

That depends on what service you use.

Sometimes, yes, that is true.

Artists typically make most of their money from tours and selling merchandise. Sad.

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