Anyone know why the "Visual basic Scripting Support" component fails after attempting to install along with the rest of IE 6?

Acording to cnet news efront is no longer hosting websites. Can this mean the end of betanews? Any word on whether they will continue elsewhere? It would be sad to see them go since there really isn't much like them.

The eFront thing's a mess. These guys that run this site probably haven't gotten any payments by eFront for a long time and probably never will, so who can really blame them for not being motivated to update the site.

I've pretty much given up on Betanews as well...anyone know of any comparable websites

NO s***! This site sucks. Beta 2 of Windows XP (and countless other betas) has arrived without even a mention or report from/by Betanews. Betanews, you suck!

word up

I have gas...

Severe cramping is kicking in now...can't hold it much l o n g e r...

hey ive installed an old ie6 beta and it changed my treeview in windows explorer as a weblink. you know, just have to clic one time. But this thing was only in treeview, not at the right. This stuff was pretty lame and i wanna know if the new public beta still has this thing...

All I get when I try to download the setup file is the following ...(over and over again)...The download location information is damaged. Please clear your internet explorer browser cache and retry setup. Hmmm?

hmm..

Geez, everything seems to be working fine except that I am missing the entire personal bar and or button.. I have gone to view,explorer bar and tried to turn it on but it is missing. I have gone to tools, internet options,advanced and checked the obvious but still no go. When I downloaded IE6, I did notice that it went from 5% to 60% in less than a second. What happened? What can I do? Running Win me and previously used IE 5.5. Anybody ???

i have the same problem ;\

You actually have a bigger problem. MS has just confirmed a bug (ID # 22069) when you use Outlook/Outlook Express . This bug erases the body section of most incoming messages, if it is received in ASCII format. The hotfix right now is to unregister the mlang.dll, rename to mlang.old and reload/replace with IE 5.5's mlang.dll then re-register the mlang.dll file. This is an untested fix provided by MS design team. You should also go in and select "leave messages on server". This way if Outlook erases you could try another POP3 email program... Good Luck

HI.
My problem is found after I uninstall the IE6 back to IE5.5 since I find there
have many problems on IE6(e.g. slow response to the mouse click, sudden disappear of the icons on status bar but some are still running and so on).I can use Outlook 2000 before upgrading to
IE6.Everything works fine.Although after I install the IE6, Outlook 2000 still
works.However, after I uninstall the IE6, Outlook 2000 can't be used for both
sending and receiving mail.I just get the message 'Internet mail is not
registered properly.Please re-install and try again.(Account:Yahoo!Mail,POP3
Server:'pop.mail.yahoo.com',Error number:0x80040154.)'I use both the methods
repair and reinstall Outlook 2000 but it doesn't work.The same error message
shown.I also check my private mail account and it shows the same message again.I
am serious to check the words of my mail accounts entered but in vain.The selection on Add/Remove Program for IE5.5 is replaced by IE6 so I can't repair the IE using this method.Also, Outlook express is disappeared after uninstalling IE6.
The final solution is to reinstall IE5.5 and then everything goes fine again.
Thanks Curtis.

Bobby,

"For the user of the English language there is illumination and an implicit warning in the famous simile of J. Vendryes:
The ice borrows its substance from the river, it is indeed the actual water of the river itself-and yet it is not the river. A child, seeing the ice, thinks that the river exists no more, thats its course as been arrested. But this is only an illusion. Under the layer of ice, the river continues to flow down to the plain. Should the ice break, one sees the water suddenly bubble up as it goes gushing and murmuring on its way. this is an image of the stream of language. THE WRITTEN TONGUE IS THE FILM OF ICE UPON ITS WATERS; THE STREAM WHICH STILL FLOWS UNDER THE ICE THAT IMPRISONS IT IS THE POPULAR AND NATURAL LANGUAGE; THE COLD WHICH PRODUCES THE ICE AND WOULD FAIN RESTRAIN THE FLOOD IS THE STABILIZING ACTION EXERTED BY GRAMMARIANS AND PEDAGOGUES; AND THE SUNBEAM WHICH GIVES LANGUAGE ITS LIBERTY IS THE INDOMITABLE FORCE OF LIFE, TRIUMPHING OVER RULES, AND BREAKING THE FETTERS OF TRADITION"

So chill out everybody,todays misspelling may be tomorrows spelling.

Hey everyone! IE6 is running very smoothly for me. I haven't encountered a single problem yet *knock on wood*. I'll let you guys know when I run into one though.

Also to me you has happened in IE after the installation of IE6 that the right button of the mouse doesn't even work restoring IE55.
Whoever whom he knows how to mend you can do it him to fix?

thanks
sorry my english

My right mouse button stopped working in IE after installing IE6...
Anyway who has this problem? And more important, anyone who knows how to fix it? I've ran thru IE's options 10 times, and the Control Panel stuff too... Haven't found anything. Please help, it's REALLY frustrating!

Oh, it did NOT work to uninstall back to IE5.5... It had the same problem. (IE must've ****ed something up, which won't be restored when uninstalling...)

This only happends in the browsing window of IE6, I can still right click the title bar and such... All other applications works fine, too.

I have found the same problem with the mouse.
if he succeeds you to know the solution you write me to
ricky9@usa.net
thanks
sorry my english

relaaaxxx
just clear out all the stuff that active setup downloaded, then run it, then download only the browser (it will say that you don't need to update, but do it anyway). Then restart... worked for me

It didn't work, and now I can't restore IE5.5 either...

where is 2463? nancy, do you have it? I need a good fix. A speedy download and a smooth install and I'll feel good for a day or 2.

BTW, do you know that Mozilla 0.8.1 is out? Nothing spesial, but bugfixes. 0.9 will kick ie's a** - new cache, new viewer, new imglib, improved mail performance and many other perf updates!

It is already in the nightlies 40-50% faster than it was in 0.8.1 and for the final 0.9 it will be more faster!

Just wait for the release.

BTW try 0.8.1 out: http://fileforum.efront....tail.php3?fid=942889097
It was not announced by betanews, but added... Very strange...

Right on, I just got a 1Ghz Athlon and another 128MBs of RAM so I should almost be set to use Mozilla now.

Lol.

Hopefully, by .9 they will have improved the amount of RAM that it hogs.

I don't mean to s*** on Mozilla but I've been hearing the same crap for god known how long: "x.x will kick ie's ass". It probably started around 0.7 - that was supposedly going to kick ie's ass, then 0.8, then 0.8.1 and now 0.9. Which version is it going to be that will kick ie's ass? You can't keep on same the same meaningless comment for eternity!

Now for those of you who swear by Mozilla or for those of you who hate IE (just because - you can? it's cool to do so? it's made by microsoft?) I'm not knocking Mozilla, just wondering why there's so much hype about it being better than IE and as yet failing to deliver that hype!

Maybe so, but the strange thing is, I can't install M 0.8.1, when I do and start it up, it crashes immediatly. M 0.8 had no probs at all. Damn!

I think Mozilla has kicked IE's a** since 0.8 but that's just my opinion and reflects how I use the browser. Mileage may vary for others.

Obviously if you like VBScript, ActiveX, and integration with the desktop then you'll prefer IE. If you want smaller download, standards compliance, extensibility, theming or cross platform support then you'll prefer Mozilla.

Each release certainly comes with major improvements. 0.9 is shaping up to deliver the most significant performance improvements yet. Page loading is considerably faster in the most recent nightlies and mail/news performance rocks too with the new outliner widget.

Every new milestone is said to deliver the most significant performance increase.

IE is better for some things, like it has lot of nice stuff like DHTML and whatnot, it runs faster (currently), and IE6 (for me in WinXP)takes usually between 10-12.5mb of RAM to run.

Not to say that Mozilla doesn't have some advantages, especially on alt-platforms.

Well....VBScript, ActiveX and integration with the desktop - couldn't care less about to tell you the truth, none of those bug me either way.

Smaller downloads - once again I don't know the exact size of mozilla vs IE, but I doubt the overall size difference will be THAT great. Plus a lot of people wait for the browser to be put on their favourite computer magazine so no download is necessary.

Standards Compliance - do you mean any standards compliance or BETTER standards compliance? either way this is probably the most important detail for me as I do write a lot of servlets, and as a result I get the s***s with the differences between netscape and ie. Now I'm not sure which build of mozilla netscape 6/6.01 uses, but I can tell you that it's s***! The rendering engine mangles pages. If you would like to try it for yourself create a few nested tables and into the middle one enter in a few rows in which the cells have both an image and text in them.

Extensibility - important yes, but not enough of a reason to use mozilla over everything else.

Theming - this is the most useless feature that I can think of! If this is mozilla's selling point then that really says it all. However I am in the minority here because most people do love theming/skinning, just look at the popularity of other applications that support theming/skinning (WinAmp, Sonique (at least in the mp3 area)). But in the end all of this is useless...sure it's a nice addon but you use a browser to view web pages not because you can have pretty colored borders and buttons!

Cross-Platform Support - umm, you still need to download a new version for every platform you want to run it on (or at least re-compile it on every platform you want to run it on - something the average person is not going to do). So what relevance does this have to the majority of users out there? The majority use Windows (and the majority of that majority barely know how to use windows as it is!) and hence don't need cross-platform support.

Anyways, having said all that, I'll download v1.0 or whatever version the 'final' will be deemed and give it a fair go. Wether it starts up faster or slower than IE I honestly couldn't care less about, however if it chews a lot of RAM up then I won't be too impressed. But if it renders pages correctly and other wise works fine there is no reason not to use it. But for now all I ever hear about Mozilla is all the hype (and more hype and more hype) and no delivery.

Smaller downloads
Considering that the win32 Mozilla nightlies weigh in around 8-9MB, Moz will win hands down over IE.

Standards Compliance - do you mean any standards compliance or BETTER standards compliance? Either way this is probably the most important detail for me as I do write a lot of servlets, and as a result I get the s***s with the differences between netscape and ie. Now I'm not sure which build of mozilla netscape 6/6.01 uses, but I can tell you that it's s***! The rendering engine mangles pages. If you would like to try it for yourself create a few nested tables and into the middle one enter in a few rows in which the cells have both an image and text in them.

Netscape 6 branched from Mozilla back in September 2000, and yes it is crap. They released it prematurely, the version they released as 6.0 should have been their first "Preview Release".

Cross-Platform Support - umm, you still need to download a new version for every platform you want to run it on (or at least re-compile it on every platform you want to run it on - something the average person is not going to do). So what relevance does this have to the majority of users out there? The majority use Windows (and the majority of that majority barely know how to use windows as it is!) and hence don't need cross-platform support.

The point that many people miss is that you only have to learn to use Mozilla once. It has the same behaviors, quirks, and UI across all platforms, so once you learn to Mozilla on a Mac, you already know how to use it on a PC.

Anyways, having said all that, I'll download v1.0 or whatever version the 'final' will be deemed and give it a fair go. Whether it starts up faster or slower than IE I honestly couldn't care less about, however if it chews a lot of RAM up then I won't be too impressed. But if it renders pages correctly and other wise works fine there is no reason not to use it. But for now all I ever hear about Mozilla is all the hype (and more hype and more hype) and no delivery.

Startup time is one of the most complained-about issues with Mozilla and Netscape 6. It is being addressed in two different ways; 1. Option to pre-load parts of Mozilla during the boot process (like IE does), 2. Reorganize and tune file/memory access to reduce startup workload.

Only have a few comments, so I'll make it short and sweet:

The point that many people miss is that you only have to learn to use Mozilla once.

I don't understand the significance of that point. You only have to learn it once....can't you use ANY web browser once you have learn how to use any one browser? I didn't notice any learning curve moving from Netscape to IE or trying out Opera. I can't see the significance in your point...I can't for the life of me understand why anyone with an IQ over 20 would have a problem using IE on Windows, IE on a MAC, IE on a sun box, Opera on Windows or Netscape on Windows/Linux/Sun/etc. once they 'learnt' how to use a web browser in the first place.

Startup time is one of the most complained-about issues with Mozilla

Like I mentioned (rather poorly) in my earlier post....this seems like a stupid reason to whinge about (yet if you go through the old stories on this site you'll see this is people's favourite reason to whinge about!). Unless it takes a minute to start up - what's the rush? Now I'm not saying they should be slack with the code - it should still be optimised to start up and run as quickly as possible - but if it takes 30 seconds to initially start up and then runs really quickly...who cares! What is everyone whinging about those 30 seconds? They will have to wait an extra few seconds before they can load up their favourite porn site? On the other hand, if it start up slowly and runs like s*** (i.e. Netscape), then feel free to whinge about it =)

Anyways, in the end it is just another browser. Everyone will download whatever suits them best, I just hope that in the end it doesn't get to the point where developers will have to write 2 or 3 different versions of their web sites, applications etc to cater for all the browsers out there (and let's not forget backwards compatibility - because we can't expect people to download the latest version of their favourite browser now can we!)

a) It takes longer to start up than WinXP takes to boot.
b) Mostly, the complaints are about it being a RAM hog, which it definatly is.

Mozilla takes longer to start than Windows XP takes to boot?

Of all the lies you've told on these forums, that one REALLY takes the cake.

...acutally...with a minimal amount of searching, I found the download for this executable and beta on Microsoft's site...

Yeah, not too hard several days after they actually post it on their website, eh? :-)

something i've noticed. when i keep the mouse over certain pictures but only certain ones(large jpgs?) a mini-toolbar pops up with an option to save, print, email pic, or open the my pictures folder.

Yeah, this is one of the new features that is listed in just about every document pertaining to IE6. Good detective work! :-)

"The Image Toolbar feature allows you to quickly and easily save, email, and print pictures that you find on Web pages. You can view all your saved pictures in the My Pictures folder. When you point to pictures on Web pages, the My Pictures toolbar appears, giving instant access to My Pictures functions. "
- http://www.microsoft.com.../imgtoolbar/default.asp

There is also a little thing that will re-size an image to fit into your window if it doesn't fit at the size it is already, a button also pops-up here so you can tell it to do it or not on that image.

Wow! Really? OMG!!! That's Amazing!!! Thanks for sharing Mr. Know-It All!!

That's well documented too!

also happens on the wallpaper on my desktop which is annoying!

Why don't you quit being a jackass?

Do you think so low of yourself that you have to make stupid sarcastic remarks?

Do you think so high on yourself that you have put people down to tell how everyone how wrong they are with spelling & grammer errors?

Someone has to tell you how your not that smart as you think you may be.

I've NEVER EVER gone around correcting peoples spellings.

Intersting, which OS are you running? And are you using Active Desktop?

And I quote CPUGuy on March 21st, 2001 at 10:49AM ET in the Windows Beta Message board.

"Ok, I love your grammer and spellings!!

That aside, it's your own dumb fault for installing something that you don't have a license to use. "

A) You do go around complaining about people's grammar and spelling errors.

B) You do go around trying to make people feel dumb. (which doesn't work with me)

That was exactly one time, and I DO vividly remember it.

It was horrible, I pretty much had to decypher what he said.

Second, he was complaining about how crappy XP was (I believe), when he was using a pirated version of something he wasn't even supposed to have.

Are you not the same CPUGuy that just said "I've NEVER EVER gone around correcting peoples spellings"?

That was exactly one time, and I DO vividly remember it.

It was horrible, I pretty much had to decypher what he said.
-- I THOUGHT I WAS COMMUNICATING WITH A SMART PERSON. Sorry, I will
-- never make that mistake again.

Second, he was complaining about how crappy XP was (I believe), when he was using a pirated version of something he wasn't even supposed to have.
-- You havent a clue. I really dont like being called a thief. What proof do you have to backup your imagination? Slander is not a good thing.

That makes it ok then...glad things are straightened up. Glad you can decipher that he isn't an actual beta tester of XP. I've been put in my place like you put that guy. Thanks! Enjoy reading your wisdom and psychic knowledge in the future, especially if it is full of errors. I always love a good laugh.

Get a life.

aj11284 wrote:
"To be exact, on my computer IE6 uses 20 mb of memory. That is ok for most people because it is only running when you are on the internet so it is not like you are constantly taking up that memory."

That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen a user post. The disk footprint and the amount of RAM an app eats are not parallel metrics. Its really a moot comment. Get educated "aj11284". As for IE 6.0, I'm not touching it yet. 5.5 works ok. The REAL crime in all this is IE doesn't have much in the way of competition. Unless you call that pile of stinking feces Netscape 6.0 any kind of "competition". BTW; your foolish if you use a beta program with an idea that the final release will be anything like it. Especially where bugs are concerned.

try opera, www.opera.com, its a nice browser, not as technically superior as ie but faster and has a better interface

On WinXP Beta2, IE6 takes up between 11-12.5mb of RAM, depending on how many windows I have open (it has all the occurances of IE in one process name)

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU!!! You actually like Opera? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU!!! Do you smoke crack? Did your parents drop you when you were a baby? Are you that .01% of morons that won't switch to IE? Damnit Opera gives web developers a major headache thats why most site don't bother making the site compatible with an obviously crappy browser.

Opera is not THAT bad, of course, it doesn't come anywhere near the quality of IE

occurances is spelled occurrences

"Absolutely unnecessary post" is spelled "Absolutely unnecessary post."

lol

bobbyworld is spelled boobybabyboogers. Jist wantd ti joyn tha slam, danks.

People who make sites browser specific is goofy n e ways.
The web should be viewed by all.
I used opera be4 and it's ok.
Netscape needs alot of work.
IE r0x!

hahaha very funny!

The uninstall doesn't work under W2K. IE 6 Preview never shows up as an installed application and can't be replaced by IE 5/5.5 without a lot of registry changes. Performance is lousy, too, in large part because IE 6 crashes almost every time it encounters a script, and reasons that aren't entirely clear to me, it seems to corrupt Windows Explorer's view of folders.

The uninstall for 6.0 worked *perfectly* for me under W2k, giving me the option to rollback to 5.5. I gave 6.0 a test for a few days but got rid of it due to the toolbars not updating when browsing from on to offline windows and vice versa, poor control over cookies, and script errors. I've no doubt that a later release will be worth it, so I'll give it a go then. It just goes to show how different systems can perform using such previews. If enough people send bug reports, as I did, then there's no doubt they iron a lot of the problems out... kicking Netscape / Mozilla into touch along the way.

I installed the german version and now when i installed the english it keeps some of the german sprache. what do i delete for new install, whole internet explorer dir? already tried with windows update german dir didn't do the trick.
Thanks, (if you give me any s*** about waiting i'll come to your house)

Why didn't you just wait until they officially relased it? :-)

After installing I.E 6 Public preview on Win98SE i visited the windows update site ( tools\Windows update ) and it said that i haven't installed the critical updates package, even though i have, and it also offers year 2000 packages 5 or 6 of them but they all have the same description ... any ideas ?

Just a note to confirm the windows update glitch/bug/whatever. On win98SE, after installing ie6.00.2462, windows update has forgotten every one of the security updates previously installed including the year 2000 update. The browsing with ie6 appears fine, cookie deleter works. Still have not played with explorer bar. In fact I have turned off HTML for the explorer bar; this control found in options.

Only other bug is that folder viewing is indeed broke, with "+" showing in front of every folder regardless of the presence of subfolders or not. You also may have to toggle back and forth from folder to folder to seewhat is in a folder.

Go get Windows XP Beta 2, RC1 & RC2 ALL!!! for a one time fee of
10 bucks a download or 20 bucks a CD right from Microsoft while they last !!!!!!!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/default.asp

signed up about 5 min after i go the email from microsoft :). Im still crossin my fingers to get my beta ID thrown into the beta2 pool.

http://www.microsoft.com...review/ie6/betanote.asp

This is Build 2462 (IE version 6.00.2462.0000), the same build that was briefly posted then removed last week.

it's up. i'm downloading it now.
http://www.microsoft.com.../ie/preview/default.asp

ok i just installed it. that was fast. start to finish took under 10 mins on my celeron 765 w/ 256mb ram and shared oc-3 connection.
the toolbars come locked by default. you gotta right click and unlock to move them.
the personal bar copied from netscape is interesting. should be usefull in the future. this is the feature i wanted to see added the most to ie ever since i saw it on netscape 6.0.
the media bar is no more usefull than aol's integrated winamp. it's extremely watered down.
didn't download msn messenger. so the only real change that could be of any use to me is the personal bar.

You mean the only visable change that is useful to you, there are lots of other things done.

apparently... but what? I'd LOVE to see a list of the new CSS stuff that is supported, new DOM stuff, etc... Anybody got any information on this? The above list about all the new interface stuff is useless to me (I'm a web developer). I want to know what they've done under the hood that (a) I can take advantage of and (b) I should be aware of in terms of compatibility.

Standards support, engine is a little faster, things like that.

Really? Yeah, no freakin' kidding! :-)

I want specifics! What standards support? *Specifically?*

"It definatly has more support than Mozilla in it's current stage."

I find it amusing that cpuguy is so sure ie6 beats mozilla yet he has still not given any specifics, which says to me he doesnt know any of the specifics.

That's CPUGuy for you. No facts, no figures; Microsoft always has the better product every time.

I'm no Microsoft basher, but I don't believe in making up stuff to support Microsoft...

Isn't that visible?

Now that is certainly not true.

Well, gee, you still haven't replied to those asking for more details about IE6's standards compliance. You've seen their posts no doubt. You just don't have any facts to back up your claims.

That's because I don't have access to the IE6 docs.

Then what makes you so sure it is "definatly" better than mozilla?

In other words, you don't know a thing about IE6's standards compliance...

Win XP Beta 2 has been out for 15+ hours and no betanews coverage. you guys should post a story or someting!

I like IE6, particularly the privacy settings. Has anyone found a way to remove the Media Player from the personal bar area?

Why would you move it? That's one of the reasons for the Personal Bar.

Personal bar is good for adding tasks, searching, etc. But for playing media I like to use Winamp. It doesn't make sense to me to waste that much of the space on the personal bar for that.

I downloaded IE6 from the only working place, some FTP site posted here, for Windows ME. Well, I have no Personal Bar, Media Bar, etc, but it does say 6.0.etc. It is really IE 5.5 with some security things. Quite pathetic. I tried to uninstall it and it got through the process and ended with uninstall failed to finish properly or something! So I was left with somewhere in the middle of IE 5.5 and IE 6.0. I couldn't reinstall IE 5.5 so I had to go back to this preview version with the few bugs. I am disappointed and annoyed and I hope Microsoft doesn't release this to the public any time soon.

Ha ha! They *didn't* release it and you probably got your system hosed because the setup couldn't download all the necessary files or something. It's your own fault.

I downloaded IE6 from the only working place, some FTP site posted here, for Windows ME. Well, I have no Personal Bar, Media Bar, etc, but it does say 6.0.etc. It is really IE 5.5 with some security things. Quite pathetic. I tried to uninstall it and it got through the process and ended with uninstall failed to finish properly or something! So I was left with somewhere in the middle of IE 5.5 and IE 6.0. I couldn't reinstall IE 5.5 so I had to go back to this preview version with the few bugs. I am disappointed and annoyed and I hope Microsoft doesn't release this to the public any time soon.

All the links are broken. Any new ie6 download site?

xabi

This is more of a question...
I noticed that Microsoft has a couple official UNIX ports of Internet Explorer (www.microsoft.com/unix/ie). There is a build for Solaris and HP-UX. How difficult would it be to finally get a Linux port made from one of those pre-existing ports? I know that everybody, supposedly, hates IE and sings the praises of Mozilla, but Mozilla is so slow. Maybe there could be a simple Solaris emulator to run it under, like an API. Certainly UNIX and Linux cannot be that different, can they?

Wait for Mozilla 0.9 - you'll be surprised...

You're right - all they would have to do is recompile it for Linux. It would take a few minutes, probably work straight away (not many programs need to be altered for compatibility between UNIX variants) and everyone would be happy.

Unfortunately Microsoft very much dislike Linux (there was a story here not long ago, about an MS rep who made it clear that they think Linux is damaging to "The American Way" or something.)

So they won't let us have it, probably out of spite. I say I'd rather not use a browser made by someone with such a stuck-up attitude anyway, so I'm not too bothered :)

Why should they take the time to make thier product work on a competiter's OS?

5 minutes isn't a lot of time :) And maybe they'd get a bit more respect for it (from those that aren't brainwashed *cough*)

Isn't any type of UNIX a competitor to Win2000? They're both trying to be server systems, so why shouldn't they refuse to make it for the other UNIX variants if that were the case?

The Mac too! Forgot to mention that. The Mac is a major Windows competitor, yet they make IE for it.

Yeah, why would they spend that time trying to port IE when they could be spending money breaking (err, excuse me, "embracing and extending" standards.)

On a more serious note, I heard that IE for those platforms actually sucked.

MS owns about 50% of Apple.

They may "extend" them, but they also support the standard itself.

i hope that was a joke. ms owns less than 5% of apple.

I actually meant to put 5, thumb musta hit the 0 on the number pad (maybe I should start using the top numbers like you are supposed to!)

thier is their and competiter's is competitor’s

Come on Bobbyworld, is your life that dull and pathetic that the only way you can add a little "zing" is by criticizing the misspellings of others. Good grief.

I have a life thank you. I just am correcting someone who spends his whole life correcting others on this message board. (Not YOU!) Thank you.

Please show me even ONE post where I have done this?

as you can see above, looks like all he could find was one... and you weren't even correcting, just making a comment about the spelling in general... sheesh... it's obvious you "spend your whole life" going around slamming people's spelling and grammar, now, isn't it?? :-)

That was just one instance of correcting spelling, not how many times he corrects people about IE, Windows XP, etc

Microsoft have a long and documented history of embracing and extending standards. Why is it that you can't accept this fact?

Oh, I accept it, I accpet it quite well, it's just people tend go towards the side of, they don't support standards, when in fact, they have had the most standards compliant browser on the market for a quite some time now.

Here's what I read for the latest beta: "Typical and Full installs are not currently available for
Windows 2000. Internet Explorer 6 Public Preview will install a minimal set of files onto your system. This includes the Internet Explorer 6 Public Preview Web browser and scripting support."

Anyone out there already installed on W2k? Any feedback? Thanks :)

Yep, on my W2k machine and no problems except a few minor things. Screen shots as noted in my earlier comment:

http://205.160.44.127/misc/ie6.htm

So far, I have not noticed many bugs in this preview. Seems like some have said that WindowsUpdate doesn't work with it, but in fact it does - I downloaded DirectX 8a from Windows Update AFTER installing IE60PP. Go figure.

The only complaint I've got is that form submissions seem to be very flaky.

It works well....For anyone having the error delete your cache or failure connecting to download site on Windows ME. I cut and pasted all the files in the windows setup directory to a seperate folder and then copied all the IE6 files to the windows setup directory and ran ie6setup from that folder and it then installed fine..I hope this helped...IE6 works fine on ME

Installed version 2462 of ie6 on winme after enabling sytem restore, pchealth,statemgr. Everything is fine. have not played with the explorer bar yet.

One glitch or bug or whatever to report; there is "+" symbol in front of every folder in explorer, even folders with no sub folders?

yeah that plus sign bug is the only bug i see so far.
but at least it reset by my win me icons cuz i had accidently deleted the icon for the my pictures folder.

While in explorer looking to see if the bug happens to me, I also noticed what I think is another bug. I found that if you click on some "plus" signs, they don't expand like the rest, even if the folder aren't empty.

You guys can still get from Microsof. Quit yapping and go there.
http://home.nexgo.de/nanzy/ie6/downloads/index.htm

Some screen shots and a few glitches I noticed.

http://205.160.44.127/misc/ie6.htm

Overall not bad for a beta.

Just so you know, when someone hears the term "glitch", they think BIIIIG problem, in this case, the term "bug" would be much more appropriate.

If you think "glitch" means "BIIIIG problem", you completely misunderstand the meaning of the word and need to consult a dictionary. The word "glitch" always means a "minor malfunction."

On the other hand, "bug" can be used to describe minor or major malfunctions...

True - although "glitch" is probably not the best technical term in general. :-)

Like probably many of you I grabbed the installer and began my journey finally to test this puppy out. It really kind of sux too because Microsoft is now beginning to look like alot of what I have seen on winbeta. Personally with a windows update setup when you are trusting them to send it over and get it installing , it is really bad when They allow you to get over half way and then just cut you off . Rather Cheap I thought. I was pulling it for a win2k prof machine and a win2k server machine when this happened. So I think to myself no big deal because it stores to files with a resume. Yeah right! First time for everything I guess. It ganked i.e. damaged my setup and now even after ripping the entire mess from both machines including reg. keys I get the same BS from a fresh install. I think the fellow below who said 72hrs early said it best. If they don't want you to have it they can make it look like whatever but the simple fact is I am know fool and there is no way a damaged file error would come up where there wasn't even evidence of a prior regkey. SO in conclusion I have waited this long so whenever they do this thing for real , I will be back and I suggest anyone else who was s*** on in the middle of a download do the same.
Just not my week hehe.

here's a link to pass the time : )
http://www.bbspot.com/News/2001/03/taco_mir.html
My week has been full of BS enjoy
Need sleep haha will check tomorrow or maybe sunday.
Have a great weekend

You have *got* to be kidding me. Microsoft *made absolutely not official announcement of the release of this product.* What happened was that in preparation for releasing it either Friday or Monday or whenever, the goombas at all these websites including this one go on a rampage announcing it's "ready to download" with little to no warning that it really may not be because Microsoft has said SQUAT about it. So you go off downloading it and god only knows what is going to happen. The sites that tell you where to get the files may not be ready, the files may not be there even though the active setup file is, they might rearrange things, they might pull the whole thing offline, etc...

You have only yourself to blame - Microsoft has not *done* anything to you regarding this.

This guy speaks the truth!!!

just got in! I 'll buy that . I figured I would let the steam roll off it and try again today. I know it will be great and it didnt bother me that much when it kept giving me the damaged files and telling me to clear my browser hehe. Heck I ripped the keys the browser storage the windows update folders and all : )
Sometimes I guess you have to read into it. It was telling me "go away" come back tomorrow. so I am here and today I will jsut go for one box at a time . Thanx chris

I am back all done pretty smooth and I like this privacy policy button. pretty slick smooth as the babys butt. Thanks Yannco
I will cruise around a bit check it out thoroughly and then maybe I will do the server but from first glance it will work!
Thanks

Probably not. Don't go installing betas of apps unless you infact want to be a beta testor, in which case you have no one to blame but yourself.

http://download.microsof...98Me/en-us/ie6setup.exe

Here is the new one.

Well umm sir, the link doesn't seem to work. :*(

Where can i d/l ie 6 beta????????? I've searched the net far and wide but i'll i found was broken linkz. :(

They just signed it off today, it wasn't supposed to be posted, as I've heard, and it's supposed to undergo 72hours of stress test before being released to public.

Seems that MS has pulled the preview.

I wish they'd have added some of the stuff the Mac version has had for a while... like the scrap book.

hey anyone installed this new ie6.0? ive install an old alpha version of ie6.0 and it changed all my windows explorer. in the tree view, it changed to single clic, just like web page... no option to disable it!!

is it the same with the new beta version?

Yep, it's the same in the new beta.

I have IE6 build 2411 and its not the same as the newer ones , like one click. it back to normal..

Except for Windows update! It seems to find older updates, and sees a Win98 update 5 or 6 times YUP The same update appears 5 or 6 times and the other updates, that I know I have, will fail! Except for that I do see a LARGE difference with the speed that's all I worry about OH yeah, The mouse held over a Pic will give you options that Some people could not get (without Right Clicking) Other wise Smooth and sleek Fast with Video IE ^ 4 out of 5 thumbs UP!

does anyone have any screenshots of it runnng?

You forgot to mention that it has full support for CSS, XML, etc...

True... "fuller" - not "full" - I wish this process would move faster but of course, it's hard to move forward quickly without breaking compatibility. Oh well.

From what I've seen in the newsgroups, it's full.

Well... full support of how they're interpretting the XML spec (which is fine for all intents and purposes) and full CSS and DOM 1.0 or at least 99%. But not full CSS 2.0 as far as I know.

From what I understand, CSS2 is full, or very close to fully supported in IE6, or will be.

I doubt IE6.0 CSS2 is anywhere near full. It might be partial, but I very much doubt it is full or even half. If you have a link or anything that says otherwise, I'd be interested to see it. If IE6 has full CSS1, I'd be overjoyed.

It definatly has more support than Mozilla in it's current stage.

I ran IE 6.0 through some of the online CSS 1.0 tests. It passed them all with flying colors. I couldn't find any decent CSS 2.0 tests so I can't speak for the full compatibility here but suffice to say it has full (100%) CSS 1.0 support. By default this mens it has some CSS 2.0 support as well. Again I'm not sure how much though.

Again, what are you basing this information on?? Provide some proof! I'm not saying I don't believe you but I'd like to see exactly what has changed in terms of standards support! How can you say it's better than Mozilla when I've seen absolutely *nothing* indicating it has any updated support for standards over IE 5.5!

Will it properly render the box acid test? If we knew that we could have a good idea of how it stacks up to mozilla, and what has changed.

If you want it, come and get it. Tested and working (using it right now).

Get it at http://www.megarock-radio.com

Go to 'other software' for downloads.

hmm Anywone have the password to install I.E 6
please mail it to me at n.conceicao@sympatico.ca

thanks

http://download.microsof...98Me/en-us/ie6setup.exe

I downloaded this just to see what build this was and its an older build even tho on the site it says its one of newest builds..

Rumour has it that Microsoft are stopping the release of the java virtual machine in their browser. Has anyone heard of this and if so can they confirm or deny it? Is it possible to use the sun one instead?

You can of course use Sun's JVM. A disadvantage of this is that the integration of Java into the browser is not as seamless as with Ms JVM which complies with JVM 1.1.8.
Netscape 6.x comes with JRE1.3 and will integrate newer JRE's as they are released.
Java developers are really the losers here.

You can of course use Sun's JVM. A disadvantage of this is that the integration of Java into the browser is not as seamless as with Ms JVM which complies with JVM 1.1.8.
Netscape 6.x comes with JRE1.3 and will integrate newer JRE's as they are released.
Java developers are really the losers here.

How is it not as seamless? If you get the Runtime from Sun you can run applets, applications, etc...

I have a nice bridge over in Brooklyn you'd be interested in... Yeah here is another article with no sources. Written as though the writer is who the story is about. No sources and no references. He made this all up! That web sight was built by idiots not Microsoft and these guys were just taken in.... How gullable are YOU!

I've no idea whether it's true or not but the IP is within a block owned by Microsoft.

As you can see here, Microsft owns the IP:
http://uptime.netcraft.c....107&submit=Examine

and the likely hood that it is therefore fake ... is very low don't you think, plus this is BETAnews ... we don't get tons of names and sources like c|net or what have you, that's why we can have it first.

You're a moron. If you're so bothered by the lack of sources in the articles, why do you keep coming back to the site again and again? Do yourself and everyone else a favor: don't come back.

Nothing realy new here. The only thing that looks nice is the image resizer, other than that these updates should be included in a service pack - not a "new release" BTW, I heard rummors that MS is going to charge money for the new IE... can anyone conferm this?

Yeah - you get it when you buy Windows.

NO! I wish you people would use your head.

There will be no charge for IE.

But there is a price to pay.

It's already in IE 5.01! It's an optional component (from Windows Update).

It's identified errors in crashes I've had and successfully reported a bug fix, which got rid of the problem I was experiencing.

Definitely a good feature, but not exactly a new one! (Unless they're counting the automatic-inclusion as being new).

The browser is FREE. What the hell are you b****ing about? Your hard earned money isn't going into this product, so quit yer damn b****ing and go on with your life. So, Microsoft released IE 6.0 and some new features aren't new. That affects your life how?

Some people will find ANYTHING to b**** about just for the sake of doing it.

Whoops. Sorry. Posted this in the wrong place :)

Just what do you think these forums are for?

All he said was that he had heard rumors, and asked if they were true. I didn't even see it as complaining, just a simple question. Certainly no reason to go into a fit.

Netscape uses it's Quality Feedback thing when it crashes. Now MS is pushing a very similar "feature". Which came first, Netscapes error reporter, or MS's? I've never paid attention to it.

Dunno, probably Netscape, but probably someone did it before that. Does it really matter, I guess? A good idea is a good idea. Things like that should be embraced and freely given to the world. :-)

Lot's of programs are including it, including Real Media Player, OfficeXP (which contributed a LOT to the beta), WinXP, IE6, etc...

it's RealPlayer not Real Media Player you idiot!

Dude! What is the matter with you? If you don't like CPUGuy why don't you ask him for his e-mail address and carry this stupid battle out in private already!

Don't you think 100% of the people on this site knew what he was talking about without needing you to (a) slightly correct the common misspelling of "Real Player" and (b) calling him an idiot?

And why are you in sticking up for him? This isn't a fight. I care less. I see him on here "correcting" everyone, thought I put in my comments. This is a message board isn't it? If anyone wants a fight, pick a place and I'll fight in real life.

It wasn't a misspelling of RealPlayer it was a totally different product name.

Ha ha - I guess it doesn't surprise me that you would have no problem quickly resorting to physical violence to solve problems. So sad.

My complaint with you is the numerous posts correcting spelling. Give it up. We don't care. You obviously do or you wouldn't spend the time doing it and you think other people care otherwise you wouldn't put it on a public forum.

Can't we all just get along??

Come on dude... it's called Real Player, Real Audio Player, Real Video Player, Real Media Player, etc... it's the same product. What mystery product are you referring to?

I'm sure if you search google for "Real Media Player," you'll find lots of pages talking about "Real Player" and calling it any number of things including "Real Media Player."

That's not the product's name. Give it up.
RealNetwork Products nameing Conventions

http://www.realnetworks....nhmtn,nosrc,noref,nosrc

Exactly... and no kidding... but my point was that everyone knew what he was talking about and it's clear you're pointing this "mistake" out because you don't like him. That annoys me because your post is totally useless as are all of these discussing this issue. Please, don't use the board for personal attacks in the form of useless posts. You'll be doing everyone a favor.

Bobby, You sure got a hard on for this CPU Guy. I think maybe you complain too much. Know what I mean?

Please, don't use the board for personal attacks in the form of useless posts. You'll be doing everyone a favor. Yes your the one who put your 2 cents in.

just like the one you have for me?

About time.

hello people, i downloaded IE6 2462, but it looks different from some screen shots i saw on the net. eg the personal bar. have i downloaded the wrong version?

Here the full program

http://betatester.tin.it

Bye