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Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 Released

By Nate Mook, BetaNews

April 25, 2006, 3:33 AM

Microsoft early Tuesday put live the Beta 2 release of Internet Explorer 7, the company's new standalone browser for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003. A new IE Web site is promoting the beta, which Microsoft is targeting at both enthusiasts and the general public.

IE7 Beta 2 follows a preview release in January and a layout-complete build that debuted at MIX 06 in March. Margaret Cobb, IE Group Product Manger, told BetaNews that although there have been many noticeable changes since MIX, Beta 2 brings improved compatibility and a far more reliable browsing experience.

"We feel like we've done a lot of work under the covers," Cobb said. "We're hoping that tech enthusiasts will all take a look at it and try it out."

IE7 notably adds a tabbed interface and improves on browser security. Microsoft has also built into the browser an RSS platform that provides a framework for downloading, storing and accessing RSS feeds across the Windows operating system.

Security features such as ActiveX controls being disabled by default and a phishing filter promise to keep Web surfers safe at a time when attacks are becoming more commonplace. IE7 also locks down cross site scripting and international domain names to prevent malicious use.

On the interface side, Microsoft says it has endeavored to make IE7 simpler, more streamlined and less cluttered. A customizable search box enables users to make quick queries to the engine of their choice, and a Favorites Center clusters favorites, tab groups, history and RSS feeds into a single panel.

A page zoom feature has also been added to aid those with vision disabilities. When a page is zoomed, images are also enlarged along with text. IE7 additionally will shrink a Web page for printing, with an option for printing only selected text.

Under the covers, Microsoft has beefed up IE7's technical capabilities. CSS improvements and transparent PNG support catch the browser up to rivals such as Firefox, and native support for XMLHTTP means AJAX-based Web applications will no longer require an ActiveX control to function.

Although Cobb warns that the new release is still beta, she is encouraging all Internet Explorer users to give it a try and provide feedback through newsgroups, blogs and a special support phone number. Highlighting Microsoft's confidence in Beta 2, those customers having problems with IE7 can receive free technical support over the phone.

Microsoft has rolled out a new add-on site to go along with Beta 2, which is located at ieaddons.com. Cobb told BetaNews the previous offering was "not a good way to promote our partners," and says the new site sports a simpler user interface and categories organized with tabs.

IE7 Beta 2 installs atop IE6, but users can remove the test release and revert back if necessary. Cobb notes that because IE6 is "part of the operating system" unlike IE7, it can never be fully replaced. Users of the IE7 Beta 2 Preview and MIX 06 interim build must uninstall those versions before installing Beta 2.

Microsoft has, however, designed a seamless upgrade path for Beta 2. The final IE7 release -- due out late this year -- will install directly over the beta.

Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 is available for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 in both 32-bit and 64-bit variants. Although English is the only language currently offered, Arabic, Finnish, German and Japanese versions will follow early next month.

Try out the Beta 2 release and tell us what you think!

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By Peretz71

edited Oct 22, 2007 - 7:32 PM

I used to use ie6 and it saved the passwords for most of the sites I visit. I just upgraded to ie7 and see that I lost the passwords. Some of them are not written down and I don't know how to retrieve them.
any advice?

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By goldenfalcon8

edited May 10, 2007 - 2:13 PM

I had IE7beta2 and upgraded to IE7 for windows XP with SP2 I did not like the new version of IE7. How do i get Beta2 back, every thing i clic on takes me to the new version.

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By gnolapoh

posted Feb 6, 2007 - 8:38 AM

I would like to remove IE 7! (I downloaded a program about 8 weeks ago, that I thought was a freeware to provide fax transmission for those of us without a fax machine, using instead, e-mail) when I removed the program, it also took out Internet Explorer and Outlook Express. I'll be able to re-install IE6 & OE, if I can remove IE7, as that is currently blocking reinstallation. How can I remove IE7?
It is not listed under add/remove? I haven't found any blogs or directives from PCWorld or PCMagazine... I'm not sure I'd reinstall IE7, as I really like AvantBrowser much better.

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By Susiedarling

edited Dec 28, 2006 - 6:26 PM

I had my tech friend update me from IE6 to IE7 and being not very software literate myself, do not like the new version. It has slowed down my machine tremendously and I can not get flashplayer 9 to play certain videos. I've tried everything to fix the flashplayer situation and am hoping that when I go from dial up to fiberoptic cable that the slowness will go away. If not, I will have to delete IE7 and go back to IE6 which worked beautifully for me. Any ideas? Also, some comments indicate that all you have to do to go back to IE6 is go to add/remove programs and uninstall IE7 and then reboot. Some say that this could cause all kinds of problems and I may not be able to get IE6 back. What is the real deal :-).

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By pchambers

edited Dec 23, 2006 - 9:50 AM

Why can't I click on the link in an email and have it open in Explorer 7? I asked my IT person at work and he said that is what it does for safety. But my daughter downloaded it and has not problem with links in her email to open. This is very frustrating. Please help!

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By jensenw

edited Sep 12, 2006 - 8:19 PM

I like the look and feel. Problem is half the sites I accessed in the past I can no longer access. I get the following error:
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Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage

Most likely causes:
You are not connected to the Internet.
The website is encountering problems.
There might be a typing error in the address.
-----------------------------------------

All site still work using Mozilla so I know they are still valid. One of the sites I am having problems with is the folowing:

https://ascp.monmouth.army.mil/scp/index.jsp

Unfortunately I upgraded to RC1 at the office where I require access to these sites. I uninstalled RC1 using the instructions on the MS site. It uninstalled RC1 and replaced it with the old version. Unfortunately I continue to have the problem with the old version. Whatever RC1 did when I installed it affects the older version as well. Any help and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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By Chris@1000 Oaks

edited Jun 30, 2006 - 3:42 PM

I have been using IE7 since Beta 2 was released.

I have just upgraded my Internet security from Norton Intenet Security 2005 to the 2006 version and find this causes problems. Norton say it is because I am using IE7.

The home page which should show the status of the ptogram will not progress past the "Refreshing" stage and if for instance you click on Antispam you get an Internet Explorer Script error.

Guess they will have to sort NIS out before IE7 releases, but with Office 200t beta being freely distributed, perhaps that will get them to sort it sooner rather than later.

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By yathangya

edited May 28, 2006 - 11:00 PM

I think many problems are related to some of the issues here.I was unable to click links when paying my house pymt.I disabled Content and it did the trick.My problem w/NIS 2006 was AntiSpam..I just uninstalled Norton all together and checked Windows Firewall.I then did all the things below before installing these Betas.There may be something wrong w/your computer but,1st,uninstall NIS,or any other security you may have AND,be sure to enable windows firewall.2)Then,Run>CMD>OK> enter chkdsk c:/r,be sure you space once between chkdsk and c: You may have to restart.Before downloading any of these things.1)click on your hard drive,c,d,or,e etc and(R)click on it and choose properties>Tools> and check (scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors) 2)analyze defrag to see if you need to defrag.3)do disk clean,4)tools>Internet options>clean cookies,history,etc.5)Content tab>auto complete>clear forms,passwords.6)Start>My Computer>in address bar,put in %TEMP% and press enter on your keyboard.These are all temp files and are of no use.Select all these and delete them.7)Start>run>Type: PREFETCH then click OK.Delete all these files. After cleaning up prefetch files,do a Start>Run>CMD> and enter chkdsk. After this,restart your computer.*Prefetch files are more useless than Temp files.**If there is anything else to clean up then do it before restarting your computer.BE SURE TO EMPTY YOUR RECYCLE BIN BEFORE RESTARTING.I think this is very important before downloading all these Betas.

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By yathangya

posted May 28, 2006 - 4:45 AM

yathangya here,..pingveno..I went ahead and uninstalled NIS 2006 rather than do what you did.I figured, "what the heck",I downloaded the ninety day trial of the Live OneCare and Defender too.I like everything so far with no problems.You should have a cd burner for the OneCare though.**Oh!One thing,disable the PHISHING in internet options>advanced tab.You can do a search on the Phishing and 'well'draw your own conclusions.The OneCare is going to be available in stores on 05-30-2006 unless MS changes this date.One more thing..NIS slows down the computer which I've disliked for many years.Anyway,Happy Conputering!!

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By rfbati

edited May 13, 2006 - 6:20 PM

Yesterday I have upgraded from IE 6 (Win XP Pro SP2) to Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2.
I will point only one serious problem with IE7 Beta 2 which makes me to go back to IE6:

When I open local site which shows a long list of URL's History usage (of my ISA server) the Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 takes up 1Gb of memory to display! After closing IE7Beta2 the memory is released but since I need to look that page often, I cannot use my PC for any other thing (I have 512Mb RAM). Normally my XP allocates 500 to 600Mb memory, but opening the mentioneb page it raise up to 1,5Gb!!.

The program installed in my ISA server is GFI Web Monitor that did not cause such extreme behavior with IE6 neither with Mozilla.

IE7 Beta 2 is not welcomed in my PC with such extreme use of memory resources.

Hope MS fix it.

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By yathangya

edited May 29, 2006 - 10:11 PM

rfbati,512MB goes up and down when computing.It is not an issue.Please don't get excited with it.I have dnlded Defense,OneCare,and IE7.I have another comment here and you ought to try it.I love all these Betas and had no problems since May 20th.I don't understand when you say "I cannot use my PC for any other thing".If you could be more specific I may be able to help you.Take a look at my previous comment.It may help.One other thing..I don't like to change to other browsers or any other software other than Microsoft.I try to stay with what my computer came with,..like Windows.Only download what you really need outside of the Microsoft arena.Only download software you have to have like 'Adobe,Macromedia Shockwave,Macromedia FlashPlayer,Java and etcetera.A friend of mine said "You ought to download FireFox man".I said WHY!My IE browser works good enough for me.

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By yathangya

edited Jun 13, 2006 - 5:19 PM

I've read many postings about IE7 but haven't come across anything about Norton Internet Security 2006.I can't open Norton AntiSpam w/o an Internet Explorer script error popping up.Even when I click yes there's a blank page.This is the only program I have a problem with IE7 Beta 2.Other than this I have no problem w/IE7.BUT,if anyone out there has a fix for this then let me know.Better yet,if Norton is working fine with this problem then that's fine too.**This is a follow up to something else I am a little disappointed in.The IE7 does not have an e-mail icon.I don't want to seem lazy but I always use the (toolbar e-mail icon) to check my OE mail.I can still check my e-mail on my home page though.Webmail that is.Any comments on this?06-11-06.I just realized IE7 has made something happen in OE.If you have your composing configured,you will not be able to change format while creating mail.You will see the change after the mail has been sent.So, you must use the default in order to see what the format looks like while composing email.If you seem to have a problem let me know.06-13-06-If you have your OE configured with your own Font and Color text,change back to the Default.This may help w/some problems many are having.

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By pingveno

edited May 16, 2006 - 8:26 PM

I've had the same problem with Norton AntiSpam. When I contacted Norton Tech Support, they said that "this issue can occur due to Internet Explorer (IE) 7 Beta version." (I hadn't told them anything about using IE 7.) They also said that they don't support beta software. Basically, Norton AntiSpam does not work with IE 7, so there is no fix. Fortunately, there's just one thing I want to do with Norton AntiSpam: turn it off. Uninstalling and then reinstalling should do the trick. ;-)

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By jjtotten

edited May 11, 2006 - 2:38 PM

I installed ie7beta2 and the first problem I noticed was that my copy from Microsoft windows 97 could not be pasted into oe6 text window without crashing oe6. How can this problem be fixed? Copy and paste from notepad still works, but not my MS Word 97.

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By osi

edited May 9, 2006 - 2:32 PM

beta 2

links in e-mails are not working??????

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By jav2u

edited May 3, 2006 - 10:40 PM

keeps crashing
cannot keep it up

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By xanax

posted Apr 30, 2006 - 4:27 PM

Internet Explorer? Give me a break. The only "good" thing about IE is that it starts way faster since most DLLs are pre-loaded. IE is very popular for ONE reason: It's included in the OS installation. IE lacks so many features, always behind other products.. I'm pretty sure IE7 won't keep up with other browsers without any good front-ends. Without front-ends, it looks like some old 1995 product which has never evolved..

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By rijp

posted Apr 27, 2006 - 8:49 AM

Give me a link. 1 link, a broken site that IE 7 "supposedly" doesn't work with.

What? You can't give me a link? Why not? Are you afraid that I will actually find that it does work, and you people just need 1 more thing to complain about MS over, that's all this is.

IE 7, been using it since the first beta, haven't stopped using it, works fine.

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By Csejthe

edited Feb 20, 2007 - 10:15 PM

Yes many people don't have a clue, but the fact is Microsoft is popular for one reason, we all started on it and most companies aren't in the mood to retrain people nor spend the resources it takes. Microsoft never took anything serious from security to an actual working product cough cough millenium piece of crap. Face it people stick with 2000 pro until XP has all the crap worked out which should be in time for new years 2010

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By webbed

edited Dec 16, 2006 - 6:51 AM

Here's a link that doesn't work www.solar-circle.org. Just downloaded IE 7 and find that the banner that was across the top is all crowded along the right side, under pictures, unreadable and I don't know how to fix it.

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By Realist

posted Apr 27, 2006 - 3:17 AM

No problems whatsoever with uninstall or reinstall. Been using previous betas without problem as well. Also, I have checked IE6 function when uninstalling previous betas and IE6 still works as before. No problems with any of the sites which I visit. Same experience on both my desktop and laptop.

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By rijp

posted Apr 27, 2006 - 8:50 AM

Yeah me too.

You will find many of these people just like to complain, whether or not they have something to complain about or not.

Since its a MS product, they like to bash MS also, so ANY MS announcement, will get a bunch of bogus BS.

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By Agent31

edited Apr 27, 2006 - 1:14 AM

I don't use web browsers any more, I channel the internet using mental telepathy.

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By rijp

posted Apr 27, 2006 - 8:40 AM

Ok. not only was this clever, but it was worth a chuckle..

Did you remember to patent your claire voyance?

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By Straspey

posted Apr 27, 2006 - 10:29 AM

I went out with a girl in college named Claire Voyance.

It didn't last though cuz she could see right through me.

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By crazeebob2000

posted Apr 27, 2006 - 12:00 AM

I don't know what all the fuss is about. IE7 works fine on my machine. I think a lot of folks are installing it with malware already on their machines.

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By soldier1st

posted Apr 26, 2006 - 11:59 PM

Deans:uninstall ie7 beta 2 to go back to ie 6,beta test software using vmware,the safest way.

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By DeanS

edited Apr 26, 2006 - 3:12 PM

Can't log in with my broker with 7 beta. How do I go back to IE 6 ?

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By yathangya

posted May 28, 2006 - 5:34 AM

DeanS,Try disabling content tab.This may be your problem.Many websites will lock you out if you have Content enabled.Tool>Internet Options>Content Tab, and click disable.Hope this works.yathangya

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By mjm01010101

posted Apr 26, 2006 - 4:14 PM

uninstall it, and stop beta testing software--forever.

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By Habenaro

posted Apr 26, 2006 - 3:04 PM

Meh, another MS program, It works ok, I like the actual look of it ... Nice graphics and such. It seems to run ok on my machine. Not sure why they decided to put all the menu items (or what used to be menu items) on the right side, don't care too much for that part, nor have I found a way to put my "Favorites" up on the bar instead of the sidewindow ... blah ...

I will most likely stick with Firefox and/or Opera. Both are much better IMO.

I haven't had any crashes or any places I haven't been able to go as of yet, but it's only day 1 at this point, so time will tell.

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By terminalx

posted Apr 26, 2006 - 9:54 AM

OK first off when reading this people need to realize THIS IS A BETA! of course there are going to be problems...now my only issues I have come across are that when hitting back it doesnt go back but start over at the beginning have had no crashes and the program usage is about the same it was before...its faster then previous version of ie 6 but you cannot customize the look very much which is annoying because I dont care for where the address bar is... it has a built in phishing detecter which firefox does not have standard (it is a ext you can download of course) the tabs I feel are nicer on IE then firefox

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By markww

posted Apr 26, 2006 - 6:49 AM

THE MANUAL UNINSTALL DOESN'T WORK

I had to physically strip the program out and run a uninstaller engine that could find its files,and rip it out. Then had to reinstall windows. The program does not work right on many computers,and ters up the core structures.
Mark

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By eriqcook

posted Apr 27, 2006 - 6:51 PM

Do you know how to spell? "and TERS up the core structures." LOL I don't even know what that means

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By rijp

posted Apr 27, 2006 - 8:53 AM

Awww poor wittle baby. You must be heart broken.

you think that's why its called BETA!!!! Its use at your OWN risk. Maybe you shouldn't try stuff, you don't know how to fix. Leave configuration to the experts, and stop trying to spread bad press.

There is nothing wrong with IE 7. The problem is, YOUR machine is different.

I don't care what software you have, Firefox doesn't run on my machine, so what? I use something else....

BTW, you will NEVER have to reinstall windows. Ever heard of repair? You should try it.

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By morriscox

posted Apr 28, 2006 - 10:12 AM

"BTW, you will NEVER have to reinstall windows. Ever heard of repair? You should try it."

There are times you have to reinstall Windows. Don't state what you don't know. Sometimes, repair isn't enough.

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By markww

posted Apr 26, 2006 - 6:48 AM

Has some flaws in it crashes allot, also hyperlinking doesn't work and the constant forcing the program to act right is as bad as someone's mis behaving child

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By rmaddock

edited Apr 26, 2006 - 6:28 AM

I've tried the Beta and it can most geneously be described as a 'tribute' to Firefox. However I couldn't get too far with it without crashing. Don't think I'll be making the switch, somehow...

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By jspratjr

posted Apr 26, 2006 - 4:46 AM

No problems with install or sites - looks good.

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By Joe Dirt

edited Apr 25, 2006 - 9:50 PM

I tried installing IE7 Beta 2, which meant I had to uninstall the preview build first. It hung on "updating registry" with a 100% processor usage for like 10 minutes.

Now IE is totally messed up. I can't run IE 6, or IE 7.

Tried reinstalling SP2 for XP and that didn't help.

So now I have a fubar install of IE 7 Preview 2. And I can't install IE 7 Beta 2, and I can't revert back to IE 6.

Right now IE doesn't work at all on my PC :-)

What fun...

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By Matb_TePe3a

posted Apr 26, 2006 - 4:16 AM

Manual uninstall:

http://www.jcxp.net/foru...ndex.php?showtopic=6288

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By The MAZZTer

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 11:06 PM

Try the command prompt command "sfc /scannow". Not sure if that will check IE's files.

Otherwise your only option is a nice fresh OS reinstall. I had to do that when I fubared up IE7 beta 1.

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By Joe Dirt

posted Apr 26, 2006 - 7:45 AM

Don't ya just love how IE is tied to the OS? That sux in my opinion.

Tried the sfc /scannow and it didn't change anything, and IE still doesn't work. Thanks for the suggestion though.

What would be cool is Betanews Forums :-)

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By rijp

posted Apr 27, 2006 - 8:56 AM

Its not tied to the OS. MS proved this in its case against the DOJ, why do you think the Fed rescinded their IE order? IE is a separate program, they may hooks into the OS, that the IE programmers obviously are aware of, but its not tied to the OS.

In fact there are several web sites that prove you can install Windows without a single IE remnant ANYWHERE on your machine..

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By sophist_dreams

posted Apr 27, 2006 - 11:58 AM

Try taking IE 6 off your machine without using some unauthorized third party removal tool. Also try using IE 7 without IE 6 installed.....you are a twit Microspud apologist. Windows Explorer is designed from the floor up to run ONLY with IE 6 installed, so dont tell me it isn't tied into the OS.......

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By morriscox

posted Apr 28, 2006 - 10:15 AM

IE can be removed and Windows will still run. That was the point being made.

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By zridling

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 6:13 PM

If you haven't seen or checked out IE7, now's your chance. This is good. Beats the crap out of Firefox. Even the Help File explains some of the old esoterica. Me thinks you'll like.

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By orizng

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 9:35 PM

u kidding me? memory hog + don't compatible with some IE6-supported pages. Let me know what are the facts about IE7 beta 2 that u liked so much?
PS, how long have u been testing Firefox?

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By rijp

posted Apr 27, 2006 - 8:47 AM

I am still waiting for these so called "incompatible pages" you people keep b****ing about.

Give me a link. Just 1 link, a single page, let me try it, so I can prove once and for all you people are just full of it. IE works fine, you need to quit going to those off color sites, that's how you get spyware.

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By Kramy

edited Apr 25, 2006 - 7:31 PM

From what I just read, it almost rivals the features Firefox 1.0 had. :/

Firefox actually runs on my computer, so to me IE7 doesn't beat the crap out of it. If you actually like bloated slow buggy spyware infested programs though, then I'm happy for you.

Not saying Firefox is the best either, but at least it's not a b**** to build sites for. :P

Building sites for IE when I don't even have access to the browser is going to be very interesting, so perhaps I will have to aquire a copy of XP. Either that or I'll just have to hope it's gotten so good that it supports standards from 6+ years ago.

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By lil2short2see

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 7:22 PM

NO WAY! Do you know how much slower IE 7 is? Plus, it sometimes crashes unexpectedly. It's a beta, so it's understandable, but like most other Microsoft "stuff", once you install it, you're not gonna uninstall it too easily. Specifically for IE 7, I would wait until it is publicly released.

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By Frostek

posted Apr 26, 2006 - 7:40 AM

Whoa! Please no flamewars over whose browser is best!

Do you really think anyone is going to suddenly go "My God - you're right - I'm switching right now!" or something?

Not terribly likely.

Microsoft does best when there is a competing product otherwise they tend to sit on their hands and do very little indeed.

So for those of us who decided to go with MS products instead of other choices, then any improvements to IE can only be good for the net as a whole...

PS - I am a Firefox user. I think Firefox is great, but I'm not going to start hassling people about it!

:-)

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By rijp

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 5:51 PM

Broken Links.

For those of you that think IE is not working, why not simply post SPECIFIC web pages, because I am not finding problems with ANY of the sites I use, so I want to check them out myself.

And don't give me any BS links, like from geopages, and aoluser pages, crap like that.. I want bonafide, real world (American!) web pages..

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By lojikl

posted Apr 26, 2006 - 8:40 PM

Quote "real world (American!) web pages"

Does that comment disturb anyone as much as it does me ?

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By rijp

posted Apr 27, 2006 - 8:45 AM

Ask me if I care. Go ahead, ask. I dare you.

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By ArabianNight

posted Apr 30, 2006 - 11:35 AM

I know! You must be one of those twelve year old obese American children who sit on their fat a** all day giving everyone their stupid and ignorant outlook on the world, eating chips and dip and talking to your dog (who sadly is your only friend) while surfing the internet and seeing who you can piss off.

P.S. Please go jump off a cliff.

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By morriscox

posted Apr 28, 2006 - 10:20 AM

We don't care if you care. We just figure that if to you the "real world" means America (and only America), you must be closed-minded and ignorant. Therefore, you are unlikely to state anything of real worth. You're like the middle schooler who keeps shooting his mouth off about how he knows all kinds of stuff, while adults who know what they're talking about chuckle and go about their business.

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By webcrawler

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 5:17 PM

I had the feature-complete build, which means I have to uninstall it first. As of this writing, It hung on "updating registry" with a 100% processor usage for the past 10 minutes. *sigh*

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By Joe Dirt

edited Apr 25, 2006 - 9:48 PM

Mine did the same. Now IE is totally messed up. I can't run IE 6, or IE 7.

Tried reinstalling SP2 for XP and that didn't help.

So now I have a fubar install of IE 7 Preview 2. And I can't install IE 7 Beta 2, and I can't revert back to IE 6.

Right now IE doesn't work at all on my PC :-)

What fun...

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By rijp

posted Apr 27, 2006 - 8:57 AM

REPAIR! Boot CD. Run XP SP2 REPAIR, not the first repair, that's for simple stuff, you want to wait until it gets to the part to ask if you want to install a new copy, and when it finds the previous version, you tell it to repair...

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By mjm01010101

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 4:17 PM

A great improvement, I thought, and I can't stand IE, and haven't used it in 1.5 years.

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By Intrusive_Rogue

edited Apr 25, 2006 - 4:52 PM

Note: IE7 will render you incapable of logging into a Linksys network device. (Unless I'm missing a modification to a securtiy setting, which is possible.)

No ill feelings about it YET...It is a beta after all.

This is interesting though..... http://abcnews.go.com/Te...gy/ZDM/story?id=1884077

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By bourgeoisdude

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 3:39 PM

You missed the release notes, here's a possible factor:

"Functionality Removed and Changed in Internet Explorer Beta 2...

Scriptlets—Internet Explorer 7 disables Dynamic HTML (DHTML) scriptlets, by default. (Scriptlets were deprecated in Internet Explorer 5). They can be reenabled by system administrators, changing URLActions with the Internet Control Panel (INetCPl.) The INetCPL text should read "Allow Scriptlets." If your programs rely on scriptlets, we recommend that you use DHTML behaviors, which are more efficient. Disabling scriptlets is part of our continued work to ensure that unsupported technology is deemphasized in Internet Explorer.

ActiveX controls--ActiveX controls are disabled by default in Internet Explorer Version 7. The ActiveX control for XEnroll certificate enrollment was removed from Windows Vista and replaced with a new control.

Telnet--The telnet protocol handler is no longer supported in Internet Explorer. "

Any of those issues sound like the cause? See this: http://msdn.microsoft.co...leasenotes/default.aspx

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By The MAZZTer

posted Apr 26, 2006 - 7:12 PM

None of those release notes can possibly be related to his problem. :p

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By Intrusive_Rogue

posted Apr 27, 2006 - 3:23 PM

Why you gotta talk about your wife and my kids that way?

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By Intrusive_Rogue

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 3:51 PM

I'm sure it's one of those, or any host of others.

I was just throwing the warning out to anyone that may be using a Linksys device.

Thanks for the link to the release notes.

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By shy_one

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 2:50 PM

Seems to run a bit faster than the previous version i just hope the back button is fixed sometimes it would jump back a few pages kind of annoying at times.

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By RobertM

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 1:58 PM

"On the interface side, Microsoft says it has endeavored to make IE7 simpler, more streamlined and less cluttered."

Am I the only one who finds IE 7's toolbars more complicated than previous versions'? I think they need to put the menu bar back (don't tell me to turn it on myself--look at how ugly it is when you do because of what they did to it, and don't expect most people to figure out how to) and clean up the toolbars a bit.

Maybe it looks better on Vista, but on XP, I'm not a fan.

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By yathangya

posted May 28, 2006 - 9:29 PM

Well,RobertM,I like the two bar yet it does look like one bar.I do not see the point in having the Classic View checked.I kind of like the new view as I've been looking at the same old toolbar so long.Uncheck links,favorites,etc and you will find a nicer look.yathangya

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By rijp

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 3:50 PM

A little, but then people seem to be MUCH resistent to change...

They moved stuff around, but its not more difficult or easier, its just different. Get used to it.

Part of a new program, is changing interface to make things more efficient. Is it better? Perhaps, its it more complicated, only if you insist on doing things the old way.

Its Beta. You are free to TRY it. Don't complain because some things ARE different, its a NEW program.

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By RobertM

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 11:40 PM

Not complaining, just saying...

That being said, perhaps you are right that I just need to get used to it and then it'll seem better. I must admit that I don't use it a whole lot (first because I use my Mac way more often, second because I'm a Firefoxer).

IMHO, though, IE's interface wasn't their main problem (except for the lack of tabs if you're hooked on their benefits), it was its rendering engine, which they have claim to have improved--I've yet to really test it, but better CSS support is certainly a welcome addition.

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By PC_Tool

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 5:14 PM

I sadi it somewhere else today...

Peple fear change.

It took me a while to find where they'd moved some of the stuff, but in general, I feel the whole thing is a major improvement.

Can't wait until final, so I can hopefully start using it on a day-to-day basis and really get a feel for it. It's beta rendering right now i screwing with too many things. (even a few modules on my Google homepage...*grin*)

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By rijp

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 5:53 PM

LOL. somehow, I knew you would introduce Google, someplace...

I don't have a problem with Google. I love google!

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By Frostek

posted Apr 26, 2006 - 7:43 AM

If it's a bit unstable right now, but you want to try it, why not install it within a virtual machine?

I hope no one's using their main OS/PC for trying out a beta version of IE?

I mean, I run Ubuntu, but run any Windows stuff via VMWare and a WinXP Pro image, and it works fine. If something messes up, I can always just drag and drop the original HD files across.

Much less stressful.

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By imafurby

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 1:29 PM

Think I'll keep away. I hate tabs. Less is more I think.

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By Desides

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 1:30 PM

You don't have to use tabs.

And less what? Less open browser windows? Tabs are perfect for that.

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By Kramy

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 7:35 PM

More like less features = less memory usage.

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By imafurby

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 7:32 PM

I know I don't have to use them. I don't like extra junk at the top and bottom of my screen. If I want a new window I'll just open one. Tabs are annoying, take up space, and that's why I won't use Fifefox, Opera or any of those other browsers.

Hah! I thought I'd try Naffscape for the first time in about six years the other day, and it installed an AOL exe file on my desktop!! How to drive people away.

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By Kramy

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 7:36 PM

Firefox can be set not to use tabs at all. I have it setup like that, and I've never had any of these massive memory leaks other people complain of.

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By imafurby

posted Apr 26, 2006 - 4:24 PM

Alright, I'll give it another chance.

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By ArcHammer

edited Apr 25, 2006 - 10:48 AM

x64 support finally... took them long enough. Off to dl!

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By rijp

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 3:51 PM

Why does this surprise you? Evidently, you don't use MS products very often. XP, Office, Vista.. they all support 64-bit, so now they are BETA testing the new browser, naturally it too is 64-bit, so what?

This is ALL part of the process.

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By Bruce Morgan

edited Apr 25, 2006 - 11:30 AM

The cause for "missing tabs" is bypassing the installer by exploding the install package and running the underlying update.exe directly. If you do that, a component IE7 depends on for the tab UI won't be installed without also running xmllitesetup.exe.

Installing IE7 Beta 2 in the normal way via the installer will not produce this problem.

Why do people try to bypass the installer? Usually to bypass the validation check.

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By Kramy

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 7:40 PM

Or to avoid installing bloat. A huge amount of the stuff in those packages is bloat that does nothing important. DirectX is actually < 15mb, but most people download all these huge 50+mb compressed installers that pad your system with junk files.

I imagine some people also want to mess with the installer for silent installations on customized windows CDs and things.

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By Joe Dirt

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 11:29 AM

Junk.

-Still doesn't work with Avocent DSView (simple Java).

-I hate how the Favorites are set up.

-Whoopie, it has tabs. Firefox and Opera have had that for years.

-I see no improvements other than tabbed browsing.

-Still doesn't work with about 30% of the sites I visit.

I'll continue to use Firefox. This is still Junk.

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By PC_Tool

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 12:28 PM

Faves I don't mind, just took a bit to find them.

Main issue is the lack of configurability of tabs, as far as what, exactly, generates a new tab. For instance, typing an addrtess should generate a new tab....there's no way to configure that behaviour that I can find.

*shrug*

Also needs adblocking, but.....*grin*

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By rijp

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 4:12 PM

Ad blocking or pop-up blocking?

Tabs are configured in General Settings / preferences, under the Tab preferences.

I type a new address, its in a new tab..

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By PC_Tool

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 5:12 PM

"Tabs are configured in General Settings / preferences, under the Tab preferences."

Thx. Cannot believe I missed that.

"Ad blocking or pop-up blocking?"

Pop-Up is part of IE. No problem with that. Just not used to seeing ads on webpages anymore. ;) (not that I usde it on Betanews...that would be *bad*)

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By rijp

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 5:55 PM

Probably because it isn't listed as the Judean People's front, or is that the People's front of Judea.. At any rate, its not on google.com/homepages/pc_tool/favorites :)

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By sn1p34

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 5:28 PM

Try downloading Ad-Muncher it does an excellent job on removing ads!

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By ZenWarrior

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 10:46 AM

It still does not work across too many sites. Uninstalled almost immediately. (Serious advice to Microsoft: Buy Maxthon.)

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By rijp

edited Apr 25, 2006 - 3:53 PM

Maxthon isn't a browser, its a FRONT end for IE. It still uses IE. They changed the interface, and some options.

I quit Using Maxthon, because many programs, like Yahoo toolbar, can't recognize the true version of IE.

Maxthon makes some calls to IE, but its not an IE replacement.

BTW, Maxthon is FREE. You donate, VOLUNTARILY but its not required.

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By THZGryphon

edited Apr 25, 2006 - 11:26 AM

Works fine here, haven't found a site that doesn't work. I'm sure they are out there, just like any other browser/ site incompatibility, but my daily use has yet to find an issue.

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By riceboy

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 10:32 AM

Works so far here..a bit better than the preview I was running. If tabs are missing, extract the install program with winrar or winzip. Then go into the update folder and run the xmllitesetup.exe which is a hotfix and that should get you tabs again.

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By ZenWarrior

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 10:54 AM

All of that and you say it "works so far"...? Oh, you meant it works just as far as one can throw it, right? :^)

Sounds like typical Microsoft. If tabs are missing, someone at Microsoft screwed up [again]. No one is going to go through that hassle when many other browsers work just fine "right out of the box."

BTW, I serviced six computers this past weekend. Only one person actually knew what a zip file was, or that it was integrated into XP.

Microsoft still does not get the fact that 98% of all "real" people do not know how to use a computer--and never will. It really must learn to get things right the first time, or at least the second or third.

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By The MAZZTer

edited Apr 26, 2006 - 7:14 PM

It's a BETA. If it were to work out of the box for EVERYONE it'd be a miricle.

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By cranbers

edited Apr 27, 2006 - 3:17 AM

I can guarantee you the first week it is released as a finished product 4 million tech support calls will be attempted and the support forums will be flooded with people confused what happened and why when they went to check their web mail or browse the network or even look at the D: drive it doesn't work, the same type of snafu last week with the patch for a patch because it broke someones computer will happen, trust me it's MS so look forward to the bomb. So what was that comment about it's a beta and if it worked for everyone it would be a miracle, the whole damn operating system is still in Beta then, and we paid how much for it, how many years ago?

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By zxocuteboy

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 9:57 AM

I don't know what to think of IE 7 Beta 2, i tried before and it was not compatible with a bunch of sites... i will probably stay away from it untill it becomes official.

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By rijp

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 3:55 PM

Funny, its BETA. Its not that the sites are not compatible, new features in IE are not comaptible, because the SITES have't done so to make them compatible. Don't blame the manufacturer, because the people haven't adopted the technology.

Its the other way around.

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By morriscox

posted Apr 28, 2006 - 10:30 AM

I agree. Too many people aren't bothering to update their websites. It seems that the vast majority of websites are poorly made. If browsers didn't have to figure out all the bad code, they would be much smaller and faster.

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By Tosher

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 9:38 AM

poor microsoft! Why does everyone hate it? And now we hate Google too. It's not like they're evil! And poor George W Bush! He cries to sleep every night and imagine how he feels when he wakes up! It's a shame all that money doesn't make everything better. Anyways, it's a pretty cool browser - probably not as fast as firefox as i understand the core is rotten. And it's gona be under attack very soon!

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By yathangya

posted May 29, 2006 - 10:33 PM

Tosher..George W Bush..Is that the guy that should have NOT been president. The US supreme court really made a mistake when Gore had won by popularity. **If you go to websites and nothing happens when you click a link.No doubt you need to disable CONTENT and then restart your computer.

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By lantzn

edited Apr 25, 2006 - 3:43 PM

Maybe because they are convicted criminals multiple times.

IE7 better be able to pass the Acid2 test this time around. I'm sick of the lack of standards support in IE, especially CSS. Firefox is close to passing and Mac's Safari and KDE's Konqueror are both right on the money. IE better catch up soon. The web experience is really hurting because of IE.

Can someone check IE7 against this test? IE6 is a joke.
http://webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html

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By rijp

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 3:56 PM

Idiot. - click - Deleted!

Was there even anything useful in this rant? NO!

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By DJOmegaRush

posted Apr 25, 2006 - 9:56 AM

Wow....just..wow...all the negativity! Instant! It's great. It's like Instant Oatmeal! Just add water. Only in this case, just add a**hole.

They are both decent browsers. M$ is just behind on the power curve (as far as browers go). You seen IE7 in Vista? I think it's hot!

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