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Longhorn UI Meets Social Computing

By David Worthington, BetaNews

May 3, 2005, 2:47 PM

Microsoft is concentrating social-computing experts from Microsoft Research onto the Windows user interface team, Microsoft Watch has reported. This happening has led some Longhorn insiders to speculate that the "Aero" user interface will assimilate interactive elements including blogs, RSS feeds and wikis.

In late April, Microsoft tapped social-computing group research project manager Lili Cheng to join the Windows Shell interface team, said Microsoft Watch. Cheng has been employed by Microsoft since 1995, and, prior to that, worked with Apple Computer's human interface research group.

As part of the reorganization, Cheng is shifting approximately 10 of her coworkers to the Windows team where she will serve as the "director of Windows user experience and research."

Cheng is credited as being the driving force behind Wallop, a social-networking Web site that puts each of the aforementioned technologies into practice to explore how users "share media and build conversations in the context of social network."

Other projects developed by Microsoft Research focus on how to utilize metadata to clusters information and include the "Stacks" project for sorting digital images. MS Connect, meanwhile, displays graphical representations of the relationships between groups and individuals.

"I commend Microsoft for trying to improve the Windows user interface, but I question the timing. The UI appears to be a major work in progress, in what I consider to be fairly late along in the development process. My advice to Microsoft: Closely watch the social engineering effort MSN is engaging around Messenger and Spaces," commented Jupiter Research senior analyst Joe Wilcox.

Microsoft is expected to unveil Aero in September at the Professional Developers Conference (PDC). Aero was not presented during last month's WinHEC 2005 developer conference where Microsoft demonstrated Longhorn build 5048.

In the meantime, Microsoft is remaining mum on interface changes to come. The company did, however, acknowledge it has scrapped Longhorn's Sidebar, which played a central role in early Longhorn alpha builds.

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By qwertyu

posted Aug 16, 2005 - 6:28 PM

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By xpi3000

posted May 4, 2005 - 7:55 PM

i want to be involved for windows shell matters.

the shell needs more power, like history for
all last files in windows explorer.

more options for open/save dialogs.
custom buttons in titlebars for external scripts.

better drag and drop.

alternatives to the old static taskbar, like floating icons.

more options for making the shell personal, not only settings intended for a main audience.

etc. ...

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By Aires

posted May 4, 2005 - 5:00 AM

Wallop is actually very good and I've been very impressed by it. If they can somehow transfer the feel and usability of Wallop to LH then I'll be very impressed. It's disappointing to see the sidebar has gonefrom LH, but I do hope that's only temporary and that we'll see some version of it in the future.

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By fewt

posted May 4, 2005 - 8:02 AM

THIS IS NOT A LONGHORN ARTICLE!!

Oh wait, carry on.

:-P

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By Aires

posted May 4, 2005 - 9:30 AM

lol ;)

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By fewt

posted May 4, 2005 - 9:32 AM

LOL ;-)

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By Floodland

edited May 4, 2005 - 12:04 AM

I can't believe it!
Apple released Mac OS 10.4 just 5 days ago and NOW Microsoft is talking about the SAME features Apple introduced in their OS. What a coincidence...
I just hope that Microsoft can duplicate the features without bloating them... Maybe M$ could innovate if they make their first GOOD copy hehe...

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By Maxwolf

edited May 3, 2005 - 8:00 PM

Is what you guys are. This must be like the board of total understanding. Except for dex23462.

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By dex23462

posted May 3, 2005 - 3:11 PM

I’m all for improving the GUI, but let’s be honest – wouldn’t the research dollars and time be better invested on security, stability, and hardware compatibility? Maybe I’m old fashioned, but I really don’t believe a prettier OS is necessarily a better OS. Microsoft, please concentrate on what's under the hood and not the color of the car.

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By PhoenixPath

posted May 3, 2005 - 4:00 PM

Depends on if you go by all the whining around here lately about the UI on longhorn's latest Alpha...

Most people around here, at least the vocal ones, seem to think UI is everything. Never heard a word about stability or security.

I am however, inclined to agree with you, not them.

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By Tenoq

posted May 4, 2005 - 12:00 AM

Possibly in an alpha release people don't bother talking about security and other functionalities... because it's an ALPHA. There's no point saying it's not secure, or this isn't working, because it's still years (well 1-2 years now) away from release.

Thus, the UI receives all the attention, as bugged or not, it still gives the general feel for the OS. If it's not right, then people will say so. In a full release, the attention will drift back to the important things, when it's arguably too late.

Never too late for a SP tho, eh Microsoft? ;)

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By PhoenixPath

posted May 4, 2005 - 10:02 AM

lmao...

Nope. If they focus on the UI, they're still missing the point. It's ALPHA..as you said. UI doesn't begin to show until beta...usually beta2 is when it really starts to show. What they've thrown onto the alpha for UI is simply so folks have something to navigate with. The alpha is for hardware developler, anyway.

And Aries, I know...THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE GUI!!!

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By iamtux

posted May 4, 2005 - 1:52 PM

" What they've thrown onto the alpha for UI is simply so folks have something to navigate with "

Well said, but of course noone pays any attention to that! M$ is supposed to release an Alpha with the FULL OS and the FULL GUI completed and bug free right? RIGHT?!

Apparently... stupid whiners.

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By PhoenixPath

posted May 4, 2005 - 4:16 PM

Pretty much.

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By Limbo

posted May 3, 2005 - 4:29 PM

First everyone is whining about UI not beeing good enough in the Alpha version, and now that Microsoft is setting focus on that, people think that they should concentrate on security and other things instead :)

I can see Microsoft having a hard time pleasing everyone ;)

And this is not ment as critique of dex23462, but just an observation

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By Kamika007z

posted May 3, 2005 - 5:18 PM

You're right about never satifying everyone, because most people are spoiled and can never have enough. It's quite sad actually.

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By Pegusis2

posted May 5, 2005 - 7:53 PM

Yeah I like a nice Peanut Butter and Jam Sandwhich any time... don't matter time of day. Glass of Cold Chocolate Milk.... mmmmm yummm sounds good brb :o) hehe

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By athome

posted May 4, 2005 - 8:40 AM

Great Point!

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By mlevit

posted May 3, 2005 - 7:53 PM

Even though this article states that Microsoft is investing time and money into the new UI, it doesn't mean they aren't investing their time and money into security.

I'm pretty sure the first item on their list with Longhorn was security, because i don't believe Microsoft likes being criticized on their lack of security all the time.

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By #include

edited May 3, 2005 - 10:45 PM

Hey design "experts" on the Windows user interface team please just copy OSX.4 and be done with. OSX seems to stick to basic design principles; like continuity (unified consistency) of color, line, and form.

I really don't like how you "mix" UI themes (meet ducktape frankenstein).

And finally please put an end to all the stupid "self important" marketing titles that try to mask the fact your designs suck.

I don't want to hear its just an alpha build. You have had years to work on the UI. One sign of good design is the art of knowing what not to show.

We can only hope the interface team is keeping the true UI design secret as part of a clever plan to surprise us all. Please prove me wrong.

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By nerc0ne

posted May 4, 2005 - 12:35 AM

#include
As far a design goes, please give me a break and zip-IT . If you don't like the regular windows interface design and are still using windows use windows blind or something... I think they have done a good job at the design itself, even thouth i still use classic windows interface for the resources value. So you telling me MacOS X is a much better design cause it looks pretier? Please you have no argument there... yeah OS X is nice and nifty but then again that's all they had to work on, remember it's just BSD Unix(the godfather of OSes) after all... They just needled to invest on the nifty interface. Many people say that if they had MacOS X for PC it would be it for MS. Guess again Microsoft does not charge for it's SP releases(Tiger,Panther,etc). Features like spotlight, widgets, etc. have been available for the PC for a while, just have been third party applications! if Microsoft goes and bundles/intergrates them into the OS then they get flamed cause people don't get choices... or they are getting rid of competition...geez.. how pathetic people are is amazing... #include I think that just as you suggested they won't be reveiling the true Avalon interface until they are further in the development cycle, it's way too early to make that call... I'm sure that Longhorn will be the best to come in a while... if you ask me it's just a hunch!

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By zridling

posted May 4, 2005 - 3:39 AM

What nerc0ne said, yea!

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By athome

posted May 4, 2005 - 8:39 AM

I agree!

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By iamtux

posted May 4, 2005 - 1:58 PM

Me 3. You sir, are one of very few people that seems to get what's going on here. I don't know why there is soooo much speculation right now when there are no grounds for it! Longhorn is still in ALPHA, and this particular release was for hardware developers! Meaning: a) It wasn't for the general public and b) Hardware developers care nothing about a GUI.

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By PhoenixPath

posted May 5, 2005 - 10:22 AM

MS borked it all when they invited Bloggers...and god forbid, *journalists* to the conference. If it's a hardware developer conference, why do the bloggers and journalists need to be there?

Why don't you cut off your other foot while you're at it, MS? We can all pretty much assume someone in Redmond is looking for a new job after that little fiasco.

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By warrenderb

posted May 5, 2005 - 11:56 AM

GUI is nothing to worry about,

a gui can be changed the same as in XP with somthing like "Stlye XP" a nifty program that allows you to pick up where MS said "fook were down to out last 10 billion $'s, lets release a part finished operating system" hense the SP's

I would like to see the new MS operating system setting a new trend no copying old MS operating systems or even the Mac OS's

The new OS should be slim line, secure and and fully tested for stability and optimised running speed,

and then for components to be introduced into the opertating system like installation coponents to make a fully customisable

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