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MSN to Close Adult, Mature Groups

By Ed Oswald, BetaNews

September 21, 2005, 2:04 PM

BetaNews has learned that MSN plans to remove mature and adult rated communities from its MSN Groups service in late November. The groups would be moved to a third-party site, WorldGroups, which will handle all adult categorized groups for the service after the transition.

Users will be unable to create or change a group's classification as "adult" or "mature" after October 19. This would be followed by a lockdown of content on these groups on November 2, and then removal of the groups from MSN on November 28.

At that time, it will be prohibited to either post or upload anything that expresses pornography or obscenity, according to a draft of the announcement obtained by BetaNews.

"MSN services are used by a broad audience and we need to ensure that content is appropriate for all viewers," the draft reads.

"To meet these needs, MSN prohibits content and language that is sexually explicit from many MSN sites. We are also unable to provide access to additional adult content and services desired by many of our users."

WorldGroups will offer many of the same features as MSN Groups, however users will have unlimited storage as well as streaming video capabilities, privacy controls, and opportunities to use the groups to generate revenue.

Two types of communities will be offered: Adult WorldGroups, which will allow for the posting of mature content; and Unfiltered, which does not carry the restrictions on dialogue that are directed at an adult audience.

MSN's move follows Yahoo's shuttering of user chats last June. A report on a local TV station in Houston showed that many of the chat rooms were being used for illegal purposes, which prompted several large companies to pull their advertising from the service.

Microsoft had not returned a request for comment as of press time.

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By BytchAmy

edited Jun 20, 2007 - 7:14 PM

Get over it people there will be nudity & porn on the net either be a adult about it & accept it or u can change the web page ur on or throw away ur pc's. Was was braught into this world nude & even Adam & Eve was freaking nude to begin wif. If you got kids use parental blockers thats what they are there for u freaking cry babies.

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By Magneto

edited Mar 27, 2006 - 2:46 PM

I think is good to change that, because some kids can enter to the groups for adults just by lying in their profile, i don't have any children but i sometimes take care of my sister's sons, and i would not like if they see adult material in the web.
that's my opinion , see ya!

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By ZZAPRUDER

edited Jan 18, 2006 - 11:41 AM

Any thing that gives YAHOO GROUP a big SHOVE up the ANAL CANAL will be great. This HOMO HATRED GLOBAL BODY is hell bent on deleting Gay Groups while sucking up to Mafia controlled Yahoo Websites pushing - (for a fat fee to YAHPOO) - Prostition with Minors and Kiddie Porn. It is high time YAHOO were exposed for the HATRED they espose to Gays and Lesbians and the SHADY DEALS they do with MAFIA run organisations.

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By frostys_pet_mynx

edited Jan 5, 2006 - 10:45 PM

OK, first of all, i just recieved this message in my mail, can anyone explain this to me?For starters, there are a few spelling errors, and there is NO msn symbol in this message, am i bein hoaxed?

Hey it is Andy and john the directors of MSN, sorry for the
interruption but msn is closing down. this is because too many
inconsiderate people are taking up all the name (eg making up lots
of different accounts for just one person), we only have 578 names
left. If you would like to close your account, DO NOT SEND THIS
MESSAGE ON. If you would like to keep your account, then SEND THIS
MESSAGE TO EVERYONE ON YOUR CONTACT LIST. This is no joke, we will
be shutting down the servers. Send it on, thanks.

WHO EVER DOES NOT SEND THIS MESSAGE, YOUR ACCOUNT WILL BE CLOSED
AND YOU WILL COST £10.00 A MONTH TO USE. SEND THIS TO EVERYONE ON
YOUR CONTACT LIST.

NOW YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO. PLEASE DO NOT FORWARD THIS or REPLAY. COPY
THE WHOLE EMAIL. GO BACK TO YOUR INBOX AND CLICK ON NEW. AND PASTE

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION

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By KrystalKove

edited Jan 6, 2006 - 1:23 PM

That is so obviously a hoax. 578 names left? Considering that any name followed by a number or combination of numbers, names spelled backwards, forwards, with omitted letters, undescores, etc... could be used... it would be impossible to determine how many names are left.

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By KrystalKove

edited Jan 5, 2006 - 6:01 PM

January 06 and our adult group is still open. Not to jinx us or anything.

The WorldGroups site is still not letting you get anywhere with the links, but I checked IGF and it is supposed to be run by the same server. IGF is very pornographic.

The big issues here are that they require credit card info to join, and that people with filters on their work computers will probably not be able to access those sites.

We don't want a porn site, we are just a fun group of adults that want to be allowed to cuss and post funny & naughty or not graphics. Mostly we play trivia type games, discuss news of the day, post jokes, and give birthday wishes to our very active members. We are careful about who we allow to join. The truth is, network television is raunchier than we are. In fact, I've seen articles on MSN's homepage that are about as we are... minus a few 4 letter words.

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By renatomd

posted Jan 27, 2006 - 4:40 AM

Msn have closed my group down and every adult group I was a member of.
No notification, no reason, no comment.
What was that assurance they gave us about keeping us informed...yea sure!

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By renatomd

posted Jan 27, 2006 - 4:38 AM

Well MSN have deleted my adult group and every adult group I was a member of.
No explanation, no word, no comment.
What was that assurance about keeping us informed and not deleting groups. Yea sure.
It is more than annoying to find all your hard work and dedication wiped away without so much as a by or leave.

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By ladycowboy

edited Dec 13, 2005 - 8:34 PM

Well it's December 13, and an adult PSP group I belong to has disappeared. It's no longer listed under my groups and it says hmmm, we cannot find that page. Please reload page. I talked to the owner and she can't figure out what is going on either, MSN never contacted her. And hmmm, worldgroups.com is still saying coming soon, so what is going on I wonder?

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By saxmuntz

edited Dec 11, 2005 - 3:01 PM

Obviously, religious fanatics again want to control everyone's lives, right down to individual decision making rights and freedom of expression. And msn and yahoo eagerly bow to their demands. Democracy? What a joke!

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By bloggingmsnchat

edited Dec 5, 2005 - 11:17 AM

regarding the msn groups and content change i noticed the following announcement on an adult rated msn profile:

MSN Announcement: Important changes to adult Member Directory profiles

Please note that all Member Directory profiles categorized as Adult will be deleted on or after December 13th 2005. After this date, any Member Directory profiles with any content of an adult nature will be deleted. Please re-categorize your profile and remove any adult content before this date. You may continue to take part in an adult community by joining WorldGroups, a third party service.

the link that msn embedded in the word: WorldGroups redirects to ifriends.net a company out of florida.
www.bloggingmsnchat.blogspot.com

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By foxy_poser

posted Nov 30, 2005 - 10:51 PM

Sure jonathanclassof99,

I'll take you thier, just click here!

http://adult.apps.ifrien...sif?GROUP=C2A9FOXYPOSER

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By saxmuntz

posted Dec 11, 2005 - 3:41 PM

Tried, but when I got on the home page and clicked where I wanted to get to, kept returning to the home page. Also, when I tried to register, nothing happened. After a few tries, I just gave up. But I do like the idea. By the way, I read that yahoo adult chat rooms were removed, but I always find it very easy to find and enter them from yahoo messenger. And they have been great so far.

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By jonathanclassof99

edited Nov 30, 2005 - 1:54 PM

I've heard that these World Groups people also run some website called IGF... anyone know what that is and if it is well run?

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By lady

posted Nov 29, 2005 - 9:20 PM

The U.S.C. Title 18 you refer to is a mandate of record keeping to be produced upon request. If anyone is interested reading the entire Section here is the link for it. I have my doubts as to applicablity to MSN and its groups.
http://www4.law.cornell....8_00002257----000-.html

But even if it does, then it is a simple matter of requiring each site owner to post the disclaimer that is required by this. And to set the record straight......this Law has been in effect for OVER 2 years now. This law is NOT new by any stretch of the imagination.

It still also does NOT explain why there has been NO word what so ever from MSN to the group managers as they said there would be when asked about this. Supposedly, according to THIS site, the move was to have taken place yesterday. But as anyone who belongs to MSN can plainly see, the groups are there, completely intact, and active. Not to mention that ADULT groups can STILL be created today!
I just dont quite buy into this yet. If we do move, so be it. But if and until we get word about it, directly from MSN and not some link that happens to have MSN somewhere in it's address, why worry about it? Why keep insisting it is going to happen?
I continue to post simply to show that there is a REAL problem with this story, it has thus far been proven not only unfounded but also completely INACCURATE in its entirety.

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By Hawk_Pirate

edited Nov 29, 2005 - 1:36 AM

Let's take a look at this from another perspective shall we. Let's go behind the scenes.

The Big Picture.

1. Don't forget the new law U.S.C. TITLE 18, SECTION 2257 COMPLIANCE. MS has to do something to get out of the liability issue's that will arise due the passing of this bill. Yes Mr. Bill has a deep pocket but he doesn't want to pick up the tab for this one.

This is why the groups are moving in the first place.

2. Do you have any idea of the logistics and man hours that will be involved in moving Millions of groups and Millions of users, Billions of graphics and data bases. Of course you don't. I'll give you an example that you may understand.

A typical Exchange Server (NT/XP base) can handle 15,000 user accounts, some may argue about that, but it depends on the hardware. Anyway This sever is your email server, it's where your real email resides. To move just 15,000 users can take 8-10 hours depending on the size of the email accounts.

Ok now lets put this into real time perspective. To move millions of Users, Groups, Graphics, Data to new servers, could take 4 - 6 weeks, maybe longer. It will depend on the admin staff they have.

Yes may friends this is real and MSN will be moving the Adult Groups and it's not going to be over night and maybe this technical transfer has caused delays, but you can be sure of one thing the move is coming.

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By lady

posted Nov 29, 2005 - 3:46 PM

I will still believe it when I see it Hawk. They have had MONTHS to prepare for this supposed move.......yet nothing more has been said by MSN and World Groups is NOT EVEN UP AND RUNNING YET! So you will have to excuse my reluctance to just believe because some say it is so.

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By Ninang

edited Jul 27, 2006 - 5:40 PM

I missed all my subscriptions regarding all information i needed from my groups

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By lady

posted Nov 27, 2005 - 10:02 PM

This World Groups is still just showing " COMING SOON" on every link they have listed on their page. I dont think it is gonna happen......I just dont think it will.

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By Canadiangimp2001

edited Nov 24, 2005 - 1:08 PM

I think it is the responsability of the parent to monitor what the child does on the internet. The computer is not an electronic babysitter. If you have childeren take the responsability to watch what they do on the internet. It is rather pathetic that everyone has to suffer for a lack of decent parenting skills. What has this workd come to?

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By shingoku999999

edited Nov 24, 2005 - 12:34 PM

personally I feel this is an uneeded action, as groups labled mature will alert the younger audience as to its material inside for the most part, there was also the option for the group owner to add or remove any one they wished before they even joined? (accept and decline join request), and the ability to ban others from their groups...Why should everyone have to suffer this violation of our freedoms because some people dont use their heads, or parents dont check what their underage kids are looking at? People can lie at any time, even in the new places groups will be moved to. This move is neither needed (nor wanted by me personally im sure others feel the same way), OR helpful in any way, it just puts a larger inconvinience on people who have MSN as their providers, on people who use MSN for their groups in such areas AND MSN profiles, in which they can lable it as adult for added precaution...again any one can lie. In short it isnt the groups owner, nor the profiles owner to make sure people underage do not see content their not supposed to, its their parents, we shouldnt suffer this inconvinuience because the parents dont watch their kids. Personally I use a group as a place to host my drawn pictures so that I can use them else where, meaning no one else has access to it but me, and this would really put ME in a bad position in having to recreate a group for the same purposes. In short, why should we all suffer this inconvinience when the parents arent watching their kids, yet complain when they find out their looking at things they not supposed to?

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By MasterAntony

posted Nov 23, 2005 - 7:58 AM

the latest rumour going around is that MSN will now be deleting Adult rated profiles of users, those with an "adult" pic should change it to something more "suitable" before dec 13th......that is ....if your going to stay on MSN in a "general rated group"........as I dont see it mattering much if we are all going to be moved to worldgroups...is it me, or does it feel like we are being herded into some remote part of the world?..

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By lady

posted Nov 27, 2005 - 9:58 PM

I just dont think this is for real at all. Up until and including today Adult groups can still be created on MSN. I just have my sincere doubts as to the validity of any of the "rumors" going around. Where are the promised messages to our group managers about the supposed move? Where is the information on MSN's site? It simply isnt there is where. It doesnt exist.

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By arab_az

posted Nov 18, 2005 - 5:11 PM

Overwhelmingly,adult groups are about porn, or escort reviews, or how to contact an escort (read prostitute), etc.. And, they are mostly visited by men. I know this and you know this.

The men who frequent them are-for the most part-just filthy, sleazey, rich guys who are to gross and clumsy to get and keep a real woman, so they must rely on the hienous ecconomic situations that insidiously leads women into and eventually traps them into wh***dom and porn. Adult based groups always-and I mean always victimize women.

I would like to know if you are involved in the business side of adult entertainment.

I am all for freedom of speach. I'm sure you are too. If someone wants to indulge in adult groups it is there business, but let's not sugar coat the issue.

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By lady

posted Nov 20, 2005 - 11:43 AM

I dont know what groups your going to arab_az but if obviously isnt the one I belong to. I cannot speak to other groups but ours is NOT even remotely close to that. Yes we discuss ADULT issues.......but REAL LIFE ADULT issues are not about porn, escort reviews! Any member who would even attempt to introduce such sleazey material would be promptly removed. I guess that is the difference between a well run group and one that is not.
But the point is here that as ADULTS we have a choice to either join or not to join.....we can stay or not. NO ONE forces you to JOIN these groups...regardless of what is in them!
And your INSISTANCE that Adult based groups ALWAYS victimize woman is simply NOT TRUE IN THE LEAST! I am not sure what groups it is that you belong to that have done this but surely you know you have the option at any time to leave them and never return.
And to address your nasty incinuation that I must be involved in the business side of adult entertainment........the answer is NO I do not. Wouldnt know where to go or where to start. Have no interest in anything like that.
I just enjoy having a place to go where I can discuss my life, day to day issues with an ADULT! You know.......a GROWN UP!
ADULT does NOT MEAN PORN! It means being GROWN UP! MATURE! ABLE TO DISCUSS REAL LIFE ISSUES AND PROBLEMS......most of which NEVER involve any type of SEXUAL components!
Yes I am all for freedom of speech, and living in the FREE world that we do we also have the ability to NOT listen if we choose. Or to not join, to not enter, to NOT read what is written.
But you are sadly mistaken in the assumption that somehow being an ADULT is a dirty thing. I always thought it was a good thing. I for one enjoy being an ADULT......you know.......a GROWN UP! One who can make informed choices, hold intelligent conversations with like minded GROWN UPS, discuss todays issues and the like WITHOUT ONCE having to worry about SEX! I think most of us left that behind in our teens.

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By lady

posted Nov 14, 2005 - 11:38 PM

Sorry again everyone. According to ALL the supposed responces everyone gets to the inquiry about MSN ending their servicing of Adult groups,

"As of October 19th you will not be able to create any new Adult Groups. (Which You still can at the time of this post, but can not change the status of your current adult group)

As of November 2, 2005 you will not be able to change any content on your group. If you do not plan to move your group and don't want it hanging around on MSN's servers until they delete it, you will have to delete it yourself before that date.

As of November 28, 2005 access to adult groups on MSN will be blocked. Attempting to access them will get you a message saying they've moved and a link to where they've moved to. If you don't move your group it will eventually be deleted. "

Well guess what? Here it is NOVEMBER 14th and I just created ANOTHER ADULT group & changed the settings to my ORIGINAL group from Adult to Mature and Back again!

Sure makes you wonder doesnt it????? I still think this is ONE HUGE HOAX!!!!

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By Fireman 7

edited Dec 1, 2005 - 8:49 AM

well you can't change your group setting anymore. By what I have heard msn is running way behind. And everything I have found on this it is true

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By MEandMEalone

posted Nov 8, 2005 - 12:10 PM

btw, I do agree that it is the responsibility of the parent to monitor their child's activity on the internet, instead of using the internet to be a babysitter for their children.

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By MEandMEalone

edited Nov 8, 2005 - 12:01 PM

Since the email below is from MSN itself, I guess this article is legitimate isn't it. If you don't believe it just wait till MSN finalizes their move and your adult group is shuttered!

Thank you for writing to MSN Groups Technical Support. This is Alvin and I will be assisting you today.

I apologize for the delay in getting back to you.

Regarding your inquiry about MSN Adult Groups, there have been speculations about our plans for MSN Adult and Mature-rated Groups. We hope that the responses to the frequently asked questions below will answer your concerns:

Will MSN Adult Rated Groups be Shut Down?
MSN will no longer host adult contents, but it does not mean you cannot continue to enjoy Adult Groups. We will provide the tools for you to move your Group to a new service that contains new and improved features. Details on how to take advantage of the new service will be made available soon. Please check your Groups email address and the Whats New section for updates.

Why are you shutting Adult Groups down?
MSN services are used by a broad audience with over 420 million unique users visiting MSN each month worldwide. In an effort to ensure that content is appropriate for all viewers, we decided to make these changes to MSN Groups. Hosting and developing communities for adult content is not an area of expertise for MSN.

What if my Group contains no porn?
The new service will allow users to choose from two options. A site for adult rated content (including sexually explicit material) and a site for mature-rated content (no sexually explicit material). You get to decide which one is appropriate for your Group and your needs. MSN Adult Groups today mixes both, but the new service will allow you to choose the category that best fits your needs.

Does this apply to Mature-Rated or any other Groups?
Only adult rated Groups will be affected. If your Group is rated Mature it will not change.

Is this the first step in shutting down the rest of Groups?
At this time, we are transitioning Adult Groups but there are no other changes to MSN Groups. Today there are multiple places to share information with groups of people on MSN including MSN Spaces and MSN Groups. We are committed to continue providing a place for our customers to connect with each other in group settings.

Who will provide the new service?
To ensure the Adult Group communities needs are met, we will be working with a third-party service who specializes in hosting and developing communities for adults, whether that means sexually explicit material or simply adults wanting to be an environment free from minors. We will be providing details of the new service provider soon.

Will I have to pay for this service?
No. The core service will be provided at no additional cost and will offer additional features not currently available in Groups. For example, unlike the storage limits on Groups, the new service will place no restrictions on storage for photos or even videos.

So what is this rumor I have heard about credit cards?
You will continue to see the MSN Adult Groups that you are a member of if they have been moved to the new service. You will not need to verify your age with a credit card to access the content you already have access to. However, to ensure that minors are not able to access inappropriate content, you will be asked to verify your age using a credit card if you wish to see content in some NEW adult-content types, but there is certainly no obligation for you to do this.

Will I have to rebuild my Group from scratch?
Not at all. We have been working hard to build an easy way for you to move your content with one-click conversion to the new service and maintain your content and membership.

Will my Group be moved without my permission?
Absolutely not. We will ask you for your permission to move any content to the new service and will not move anything unless you or your Group Manager tell us it is OK.

What do I need to do?
For now, continue to enjoy MSN Groups. We will notify our users through e-mail and the Whats New Section in the near future. The new service offers a much richer experience for our Adult Groups users at no additional cost and more choice in the classification of your Group. We will make it easy for you to ensure you do not have to start your Group from scratch. We will keep you updated.

If you have other concerns, please feel free to write us back.

Thank you for using MSN Groups.

Sincerely,

Alvin
MSN Groups Technical Support

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By lady

edited Nov 4, 2005 - 7:21 PM

Guess what? I have been able to change my group from Adult to mature to general and back again...........JUST TODAY! AND.......I was able to create a NEW adult group just a few minutes ago. Makes me wonder just how legitmate all this really is.

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By diaperlover1

edited Nov 1, 2005 - 3:14 AM

If there is to be no charge for using the new site I really don't see why people are giving such a negative response. At least MSN are giving a solution to a problem. Not just deleting it like Yahoo has done. There are no censorship issues because you are not censored in the new 3rd party area. In fact it sounds like an improvement.

As an administrator of an adult site, I know only to well the problems that minors are causing.

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By truthdome2

edited Nov 13, 2005 - 7:03 AM

There is cenorship, and it is a huge problem. Once again MSN is bowing to the politcal issues. They are trying to do what parents should do and because more and more parents have no idea of what their children are doing everyone else has to pay the price. The problem here is that MSN is once again making everyone bow to their wishes. are we not the consumers? do we not have a voice. the answer to that question should be yes, but its not, at least not with MSN. They want our money but they don't want to do anything for it. Ever since they made chat subscription they have had nothing but trouble and millions of people flocked away from them and went to other sites. This is why MSN is looking to partner with other companies because the decsions they have made have really hurt their business. I say let them go on and do this. MSN is no longer the power house they used to be, and if they continue to be the "moral police" they will suffer even greater issues. Moving the so called adult groups wether or not they actually have lewd pics or content in them is an act of pure political grand standing. I for one have chosen to not use them for anything. Not sure about you but if you were at a eating establishment and the waiter/waitress is very very poor and even spills your drinks and food all over the floor making you wait for new stuff and when its brought its completely wrong, would you leave a tip? No, you would get up and walk out and never return after of course having a word with the manager. Problem here is they are the waiter and the managers in one. They are trying to control what you see on their site. They claim its for the adult public but don't want you to be able to view adult material wether or not they are of a pornographic nature or not, thats the issue here thats the reason everyone is pissed, not to mention the hassle of getting everything moved and the delays they cause its a complete mess.

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By gscotty

edited Oct 30, 2005 - 3:28 AM

whatever they are bunch of chicken s***s at msn

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By marvinB

edited Oct 28, 2005 - 8:29 PM

I believe that any kind of censorship that is controlled by the state is bad. You and your family control what is brought into the home. This decision reeks of censorship and is fostered by the current administration. I do not like all porn but believe because I do not like it that others should not be able to view it.

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By jjaann

edited Oct 25, 2005 - 7:15 AM

When will we be able to move groups over to World Groups??

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By foxy_poser

posted Oct 24, 2005 - 11:24 PM

UPDATE:

MSN will no longer host adult content, Adult Groups. MSN will provide the tools for you to move your Group to World Groups that contains new and improved features. Details on how to take advantage of the new service will be made available soon. Please check your Groups email address and the What's New section for updates.

The new service will allow users to choose from two options. A site for adult rated content (including sexually explicit material) and a site for mature-rated content (no sexually explicit material). You get to decide which one is appropriate for your Group and your needs. MSN Adult Groups today mixes both, but the new service will allow you to choose the category that best fits your needs.

To ensure the Adult Group communities needs are met, MSN will be working with a third-party (WG)service who specializes in hosting and developing communities for adults, whether that means sexually explicit material or simply adults wanting to be in an environment free from minors.

MSN will be providing details of the new service provider soon.

The core service will be provided at no additional cost and will offer additional features not currently available in MSN Groups. For example, unlike the storage limits on MSN Groups, the new service will place no restrictions on storage for photos or even videos.

You will continue to see the MSN Adult Groups that you are a member of if they have been moved to the new service. You will not need to verify your age with a credit card to access the content you already have access to. However, to ensure that minors are not able to access inappropriate content, you will be asked to verify your age using a credit card if you wish to see content in some NEW adult-content types, but there is certainly no obligation for you to do this.

MSN has an easy way for you to move your content with one-click conversion to the new service and maintain your content and membership.

MSN will ask you for your permission to move any content to the new service and will not move anything unless you or your Group Manager tell them it is OK.

MSN will notify users through e-mail and the What's New Section in the near future. The new service will offer a new experience for your Adult Groups users at no additional cost and more choice in the classification of your Group.

MSN will make it easy for you to ensure you do not have to start your Group from scratch.
At this time, MSN will be transitioning Adult Group only.

A good amount of the pictures in adult groups, consists of photos found on the net. These photo's are copyrighted. They will not let you post them without submitting their ID along with them so that their information is on file for the providers of these photo's.

Current members will only have access to the content in the group as of November 2nd without having to produce a credit card, but may not be able to participate at all.

The fact that there may be paid account levels indicates that being able to participate may very depending on the account you choose. They have a $1 lifetime membership and a $9.95 a monthly membership. The $1 subscription is lifetime membership that only lets you look, not play. The $9.95 monthly memberships gives you full access.

At this time their is no indication of what the cost will be on the different packages available for being a host/owner of a group if their will be any at all.

Stay Tune I'm sure their will be more.

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By sandyann

edited Oct 24, 2005 - 4:06 PM

well what can i say so many people fedup with msn we all have sites we like and some are yers adult but its adult using them so whats wrong with msn why make it so you can make adult sites then say cos you did there gone stupid to be like that in the first place i tried to change one of my sites to different other than adult but they dont let you come get a grip msn

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By sandyann

edited Oct 24, 2005 - 5:51 AM

thx for the comments you put in here pity i found them to late for my groups but i hope to restart them under worldgroups

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By foxy_poser

posted Oct 23, 2005 - 8:10 AM

It is not a rumor, it is not a hoax, it is not spam. You can be in denial, that is your choice that won't change the facts.

MSN has confirmed that they will no longer be hosting adult groups on MSN and that adult groups will be given the opportunity to move to a new site.

Adult groups are locked into the adult category. You cannot move them to Mature or General. You can try contacting MSN and ask them to move you, if you have content appropriate for the category you want to be moved to, but it's no guarantee they will move you. You can, if your content is appropriate, create a new group and move your content yourself.

We announced this was NOT a hoax on the 10th and we were recommending people move those groups that could be moved two days before they were locked and warning MSN might lock them in place. Those recommendations got lost among all the claims of hoax being made by others who did not check it out first.
 
You will be given a choice of whether to have your adult group at the new site or not. All you will have to do is go to the new site and click to move it.

MSN will tell you when the site is available to start moving groups.

According to MSN, you will not need a credit card to access groups you currently belong to there. Going by the wording of their FAQ's you will have access to content there that you currently have access to. That leaves in question whether you will be able to view any new content added to groups you belong to or whether you will be able to participate.
To access any new content in the adult section you will need a credit card to verify your age.

As of October 19th you will not be able to create any new Adult Groups. (Which You still can at the time of this post, but can not change the status of your current adult group)

As of November 2, 2005 you will not be able to change any content on your group. If you do not plan to move your group and don't want it hanging around on MSN's servers until they delete it, you will have to delete it yourself before that date.

As of November 28, 2005 access to adult groups on MSN will be blocked. Attempting to access them will get you a message saying they've moved and a link to where they've moved to. If you don't move your group it will eventually be deleted.

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By Meanasilook

edited Oct 21, 2005 - 2:39 PM

I have and am a member of several adult groups... mostly the more hardcore and erotic siggy making ones... most group owners and managers do a damn good job to try to keep children out of the sites and to police them... I'm not sure if this world group thing is for real or not... I have not recieved any offical notification from msn nor has anyone that I know and I know a lot of adult group owners and managers. I can still make an adult group and change the settings back and forth... this days after the so called deadline. Worldgroups is still the same exact page that was there when all the rumors started with no new activations or updates as of yet. I am looking at the site right as I write this... could this be just a new internet hoax as so many others have been. Has everyone jumped the gun and taken for fact what is just a pile of Crap because someone seen it somewhere. I am starting to think so

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By Nienna

posted Oct 25, 2005 - 11:56 PM

Meanasilook I'm with you. I've created adult groups left and right, gone to the worldgroup site daily and it still says coming soon every link you click on... All of the news stories I've read, all the informatin I find all references this news article. Not Cnet, CNN, Fox, no one except betanews. I also find it strange that the e-mail we've all received is identical, there's no valid reply-to address, nada.... Just my thoughts.

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By Angelic Dragon

edited Oct 19, 2005 - 9:18 PM

Your right as an owner of a general group and manager of several adult groups we have not received any formal information from MSN....I have many friends leaving MSN completly.....here is a new email site that is cool with backgrounds, emoticons, sound...cool stuff and it is free...if MSN wants to tell adults that are in the 30's, 40's or 50's or younger or older...then they don't want our business in much of their other services. Maybe everyone that has MSN Mail or Hotmail should look into Incredimail...here is a link for you to check it out... http://www.incredimail.com
You will love it...much better than what we have now......Enjoy...post a message and let people know what you think of Incredimail.

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By Nienna

posted Oct 19, 2005 - 8:29 AM

Interesting. I changed the classification on one of my groups on purpose. I tried to change it back and I got an error message saying "you can't change this, blah, blah, blah". So I sent an e-mail to MSN groups support and heard nothing back from them but when I checked this morning, the group in question was back to mature. I tried to change it again and it didn't save that change (but it did on the other one) but unlike last time, I didn't get an error message. As of this morning, worldgroups is still "coming soon"....

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By Nienna

edited Oct 18, 2005 - 11:12 PM

October 19th is supposed to be the day the changes start happening. Curious that there is still no news anywhere about this other than here and all the links at worldgroups still all sa coming soon when you click on them. Seems a bit funny that all of this is supposed to start happening tomorrow and there no mntion of it any place that I could find....

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By Lady Death Hellstormm

edited Oct 18, 2005 - 9:49 PM

This is all and fine but there are porn groups on MSN that are not listed under Adult or Mature so what about those??? I also belong to many groups under the Adult settings that have nothing to do with porn or sex related thing, what is going to happen to those???? MSN should not just close down a group because of its Setting but of what it has in it, they have all the power to get into all the groups with out even anyone knowing so why don’t they start by checking out all the groups if they want to get rid of porn, and hell that stuff is on the web anyways its the right of any one to see what he or she wants, I don’t want to see it so I don’t go looking for it. And if this is to make it safer for children then I say that the parents should take the time to see what their child is doing on-line, that is why I have a program that tells me everything my children are doing and they know it. Its time parents take the time to care for their children and not expect the world to do it, there are enough programs out there to help in that. And we all know that if you really wanted to you could find them for free to. I am not in favor for porn, but where is this going to stop. First the Adult/ Mature sight, then site with questionable ideas. We live in the USA and the freedom of speech and expressing oneself is something OUR FORE FATHERS FOUGHT FOR IT and there are solders now fighting for it, Are we going to let their deaths serve for nothing!?!?!?!? I have written my peace and think that there are better ways to keep the intranet safe for all it just takes a little help from all not getting rid of things we (or other) find offensive.

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By TsunamiSue

posted Oct 18, 2005 - 11:12 PM

I just opened a G rated group for my friends. Will it be closed for using the words a** (could be a donkey)?
My nephew (12) has been calling everyone a wussy. I said to my brother that he may as well be saying p****... it is said with the same intent. So is p**** a bad word? It's okay if you mean cat... not okay if you mean vagina... who deciphers all of this? I can't see how the manager of a group of adults is supposed to police it all. Who are we to decide what is art and what is raunchy... moreover, who are the moderators of MSN Groups to make that decision?
My Adult group is nothing more than a group of friends who often tell off-color jokes, play trivia games, and post some siggies (some raunchier than others). I wouldn't have a porn site. It makes me wonder if parents simply don't know how to use the security settings on their PC... or if they choose not to because, after the kids go to bed, they want to be adults.
I have been looking for another server, World Groups is going to be a problem because some of our members will not be able to access those sites from work (it is considered a porn site by many). I hate the format of Google Groups and Yahoo Groups. If anyone knows of a good site, please post it here. Thanks.

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By TsunamiSue

posted Oct 18, 2005 - 11:13 PM

LOL! I guess this site doesn't like donkeys or cats either. ;-)

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By Earthshine

edited Oct 17, 2005 - 4:22 PM

I think that MSN has every right to do what it wants. It owns the groups and we're using their services for free. We really don't have much to say about this unfortunately. I think the sponsors might have something to say when only children read their ads. And what about children forming their own adult groups? They're going to have a field day with this one, I'm sure.

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By TsunamiSue

edited Oct 16, 2005 - 6:27 AM

I imagine this is a pointless thing to do. MSN isn't about to read these messages or to change their minds. I used MSN Chats all the time until they were closed to anyone that didn't want to pay. Now this. So MSN, here's what I predict you can expect... your groups will be filled with nothing but children. Maybe you're okay with that, but will your sponsors be? Is hosting these sites profitable? Expect to lose the majority of your sponsors. We aren't naive enough to think that this isn't the beginning of the end for you. Face it... most of the few hundred people that I know are perfectly happy using Yahoo Mail & Messenger. Once your groups are gone, what will be the big attraction? Why would we keep your Homepage... if not to have easy access to signing into MSN Groups? Sure, you have software that most people use... is it enough?
Parents, take responsibility for your children. I would never allow a kid on line unsupervised. Go to some game sites and check out the teen meat market. They are far worse than the adults. Check some teen blogs.
Thanks for providing the free service that I have been using for several years. Nice to have known you.

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By Versatiledavid

edited Oct 14, 2005 - 11:35 PM

Hopefully Worldgroups will be at least as good as Microsoft is or perhaps better. I hope they can also treat the child lobby the way the child lobby have treated adults.
The adult-bashing is getting way out of hand. Adults need to be protected from minors and have a sanctuary from them, as well as be protected from all the underage predators who prey on adult victims.

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By fuckedup

edited Oct 14, 2005 - 10:40 PM

i think thatz fukd up and fukd s*** cause im onli 13 but wen im older i will not be able to sta on msn FUKD UP so msn can fuk there dads and ladies can ****e there mother ****n d***z

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By arrstc

edited Oct 14, 2005 - 1:41 PM

This is plain censorship!!! I for one will be canceling my MSN membership now. I was fine with chat switching but this is just nonsense! I like many others have my group classified as adult and marked private but it doesnt have any porn or anything like that in it. I marked it because of some of the pictures (art) that have been posted there and to also keep the children out. I worked very hard to make my site and have had it for 5 years and now because parents cant keep track of their children we have to bend over for them again.

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By BuiltBySin

edited Oct 10, 2005 - 12:58 PM

I have had an MSN group for about 3-4 years now. I don't have much adult content in there, although it is rated Adult. I originally opened it for all of my chat friends to see a little of what I like. I added many fantasy art and gothic pics...and many of that style. It has been through many changes, and I check in on a regular basis. Nobody really goes there anymore, especially since MSN changed chat into a subscription service. They claim that it was so that kids were not subjected to chatroom pedophiles. Every parent has the right to keep their child from viewing these chatrooms, but they should have blocked the website, or chat service. You can't tell me that it can't be done. I am beyond angry at that, and by taking away our groups....the only part of MSN besides email that myself and everyone else has anything to do with........you have no clue how that makes anyone feel. It took a long time to create these groups with all of the content. It's only a repeat of MSN Chat. And Nobody will care about msn groups after you shut the adult and mature down. Except for the kiddies, but....way to go there ,huh MSN. PARENTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO VIEW WHAT THE CHILDREN VIEW THEMSELVES!!!! It should have always been kept that way. But ....MSN has gone softie on everyone and gave in. And it used to be the coolest to alot of us.

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By Thommos

edited Oct 10, 2005 - 6:25 AM

http://groups.msn.com/Gr...eafWorldAlives/settings This is my chat room and that is not adults as it's normal chat room so I don't wants my chat room to be closed down!!!

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By Che

edited Oct 10, 2005 - 1:13 AM

I have an adult Group for 40's and upwards. A wonderful group and a very safe Group. We do NOT allow any PORNO in our Group BUT we are all adults (for crying out loud !!!!) and certain words are used at times in Chat. We are classed as Adult because we ARE adults but nothing "nasty" happens in our Group. We are also ver selective about who joins our Group. We are adults acting like adults and in chat we have lots of "silliness" because we all need to laugh. I can understand MSN wanting to shut down SICK Groups BUT those sickos will always form other Groups elsewhere and still try to infiltrate nice Groups. What I am concerned about is: will we still have our Chatrooms or will we have to pay for that service????

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By forestsgirl

edited Oct 7, 2005 - 12:01 AM

And what of the private communities that some have created as a form to use for journaling and such? Will these communities marked 'adult but private' also be affected?

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By PaleRider

edited Oct 6, 2005 - 6:00 AM

I believe MSN made this choice simply because of the recent changes in federal law concerning adult content. These changes never got alot of attention in the main stream media but they are greatly affecting all United States based websites that contain adult content. For more information on this check out: CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS -U.S.C. TITLE 18, SECTION 2257 COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS.

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By truthdome

posted Oct 5, 2005 - 11:19 PM

Here's the thing, MSN has every right to deny members to use or put "adult" rated material or words on their site. Regardless of what the constitution states they have the right to remove them if they want to. This is their site! But if they choose to let paying customers like myself who do not wish to chat or post "adult" rated materials in groups i will and have taken my money else where. MSN has been going down hill ever since they made chat subscription only they are only cutting off their noses despite their faces. I totally do not agree with MSN they are treating a symptom and not the cause. Like most doctors they string you along and treat what they think they can get away with. If you do not like the move then do not use MSN in any fashion or form this includes the messenger. If they start losing even more money because the adverts. are not getting clicked then they just might wish to recant their views. Course if they stay the course it will just mean suicide. MSN is apparently joining the war on porn which is a futile war. You would think that gates could come up with something so that these actions would not have to be taken. it is fairly simple really other places have them set forth they just want the money!

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By texbadcock

edited Oct 3, 2005 - 10:57 AM

I think one reason that there are few pediphilia examples on line is that the groups are policed by their owners and come from major companies. The US is presently being run by those who think that sex is nasty and stealing money to get rich is a mark of God's favor

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By lolababi925

edited Oct 5, 2005 - 3:03 PM

There is no reason for this ! We as adult's (with or with out children) are supposed to be able to make our own decision as to what we want ot see and what we dont want to see ! If you have chiildren as I do it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to monitor what your kids are looking at ! It is as simple as this if you dont like what you see or hear TURN IT OFF ~DONT CENSOR what we as "FREE" adult's are looking at ! I have a mother and a father I damn sure dont need another parent ! ! who in the hell are you to tell me what I can or can not look at or be involved in ? There are Parental controls FOR A REASON ! If the parent's cant utilize those controls that is YOUR PROBLEM NOT OURS ! ! ! I WILL NO LONGER SUPPORT MSN OR ANYBODY WHO THINKS THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO VIOLATE MY CIVIL RIGHTS ! !
and to the people who have violated my right's~
GET SCREWED MAYBE IT WILL LOOSEN YOU UP SOME !

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By star2570uk

edited Oct 8, 2005 - 5:05 AM

totally agree

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By Gelal

edited Oct 4, 2005 - 10:53 PM

I am the owner of one of those adult groups MSN is letting go. I don't in any way believe this should be happening. 1) If parents would not only look into, but UTILIZE the child protection utilities not only MSN offered (though very difficult for most people to find!), but also any number of the utilities offered on the web, then this would not be occuring. 2) Being the owner of an adult group, I did NOT allow anyone who did not have a profile that contained at LEAST THEIR AGE. No, this is not perfect, but by not allowing those who didn't list their age, I feel confident that I did what I could to make certain that no underage individuals were able to enter. However, MANY owners of adult groups had no qualms about accepting anyone for membership, regardless of whether or not they listed their ages. This, I believe, is a major cause of what MSN is doing now. If all owners turned away those without ages in their profiles, then this would have never been a problem. - and 3) By disallowing Adult and Mature content to be viewed and participated in by ADULTS, MSN is severly limiting our rights to Freedom of Speech, and Freedom of Expression. As far as I'm concerned, this is a disgusting act on their part. If adults want to limit what they see, then THOSE ADULTS can choose to either not visit those sites and groups, or use any of the multitude of blocking programs to keep Mature and Adult content off of their computers. No one needs MSN, Yahoo, or any other web service to prevent their veiwing it.
MSN could have EASILY avoided any of this by not only making it impossible for anyone without their age in their profile to join these groups, including my own; but also by making child-safe technology immediately availiable, rather than simply having a screen giving the choices of "Yes, I'm Over 18" or "No I'm Not". What curious child is going to click onto "No I'm Not"?????? MSN should have know better to begin with about all of this. It would have saved them a lot of time, and saved those of us who choose to participate in Adult and Mature content a lot of grief.

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By Teddieloc

edited Oct 4, 2005 - 2:20 AM

I think this move is rediculous. I can see moving groups that are truly pornographic (there are some strip club groups I have bumped into) but if mature groups are locked then what is the big deal about. If parents used the parental controls on their children's accounts then they wouldn't even be able for find adult groups. I think MSN could also do a better screening process of their users. As a mother of 8 and grandmother of 12 I know it is not impossible to keep up with what your kids are doing it just takes effort. This move is a tremendous infringement on our first ammendment rights and I keep hopinga class action suit will evolve from all this. I am not for pornography at all and if groups I belong to are moved to World Groups I will unjoin as World Groups is a preveryor of pornography...but so much of what is being moved is not pornographic at all just adult...and there has to be room on the internet for adults and children need to be restricted more and this is their parents responsiblity and MSN's obligation not ours!!! I raised my kids and did a fine job and my children are now doing a fine job. I think we all have the right to expect parents to do their job now and quit dumping their responsibilities to raise their children on us. It doesn't take a village to raise a child but an ivolved mohter and father!!!!

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By popeye1250

edited Oct 3, 2005 - 6:55 PM

So much for "Freedom of Speech" and the First Amendment.
I won't be signing onto MSN anymore!

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By SparrowHawk

posted Oct 3, 2005 - 6:15 AM

I strongly feel that removing adult groups will encourage pedaphilliar and abuse that I would has been controled through have adult groups for ppl who wish to let their personal feelings about adult material out. Removing adult groups can and will create a more dangerous enviroment for younger ppl because there will not be a place for these frustrations to be let out, having adult groups give adults a place to let go and feel comfortable about being in a safe place...MSN you will be taking that away and I feel that you will be damaging the ppl who need that privacy.

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By FCP

edited Oct 2, 2005 - 11:10 PM

All MSN is doing is putting the GILD out of business and its not fair for those of us who create tags from the GILD where we pay good money to use the artwork, Thanks a lot MSN you are gonna cause a lot of heartaches in the months to come, I hope you are happy you are making everyone that makes signature tags miserable.

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By thehotanthony

edited Oct 2, 2005 - 5:08 AM

LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD VOTE AGAINST THE WAR ON PORN!!!!

MSNBC is conducting this poll: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9506428/ . For those of us who enjoy our porn, it's an important issue.

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By Heaven_2_U

edited Oct 2, 2005 - 4:29 PM

It isn't about loving porn..it is about belonging to a community that is for adults only. I am 35 and I feel I have nothing in common with those under the age of 21. I like being able to post my adult humor in the groups. I enjoy being able to post adult content in the group..call it porn..call it whatever..I call it time for myself after spending all day with my children under the age of 10 I am entitled to ADULT time..no matter what that might be. I say keep our adult community..getting rid of it is like a form of discrimination towards the adults and their content!!

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By aquivarh

edited Oct 3, 2005 - 11:20 PM

I agree with you Heaven_2_U....it's not about loving porn...it's about having the right to have something adults can have as their own...freedom of speech for one...and not having to worry about the ears or prying eyes of young children whom shouldn't be looking....
I have a pagan group which in turn has many practicing Wiccans. We don't want bible bashers to start on us because children can view our site and be 'changed' by our comments or pictures. And hasn't MSN been coping ok with this already...why can't they continue? Are they passing the responsibility onto someone else? And whats with the credit card thing....why is it that if you want to have an adult conversation....you end up having to pay for the darn thing. They say its only for identification process that they need a credit card.....but I will bet you in the end we will all be paying for the privelege of being an adult. What happened to respect your elders?

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By SparrowHawk

edited Oct 3, 2005 - 6:07 AM

I totaly agree with you!

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By Bytch_Amy

edited Oct 1, 2005 - 7:12 PM

msn is starting to suck & WorldGroups suck, we need adult rated communitys for adults only. I am 30 & dont care to even chat to those under 18 or even have them a part of our community. Yhoos user made rooms & msn communitys are two differnt things.

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By levi_justus

edited Sep 30, 2005 - 11:02 PM

I love the move!!!. though late..Good job MSN.
God Bless everyone behind this decision. Let us together prevent another shower of fire that once rained on Sodom & Gomorrah

Levi

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By COCONUTS2

edited Oct 3, 2005 - 10:05 PM

JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF IF YOU'RE A MINORTY GROUP, YOU GET WHAT YOU WANT.

THESE MORAL MORONS ARE PROBABLY THE FIRST ONES TO GO HOME AND DRESS UP IN THEIR LEATHER PANTS AND HAVE THEIR WIVES OR BOY FRIENDS BEAT THEM.

THE ONLY ONES WHO WILL GET RAINED ON ARE THE MORAL MINORITY.

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By renatomd

posted Oct 12, 2005 - 6:42 AM

OMG! here here. All to often do the majority suffer for the minorities so called "do gooding" They are nothing more than a bunch of hypocrites.

We are all ADULTS with the ability to choose. We are quick to condemn the terrorist who tries to impose their beliefs on us. This is exactly what these people are trying to do and the real frustrating thing is, we let them. I want the choice to chat about what I want, see what I want, pray to whom I want. I am not hurting anyone by this and I am not trying to force anyone in to doing as I do. I do respect their decision to not want to see or be involved with any ADULT material but then I am not forcing them. They have a choice, but these are controll freaks who want that choice but are not prepared to give the same choice to anyone else.

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By truthdome

posted Oct 1, 2005 - 8:11 PM

There is a flow in your so called "logic" Sodom & Gomorrah were destroyed not moved. The moving of these groups is an extremely temporary solution. The only real solution is to monitor yourselves and your children. Apparently not enough people monitor their children and to many so called religious fanatics feel self righteous in the procaliming of this so called good deed? I suppose book burning is at the top of these people's list of fun activities.

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By Bytch_Amy

posted Oct 1, 2005 - 7:26 PM

levi_justus go to hell

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By Oldruffian

posted Oct 1, 2005 - 1:59 PM

Levi, you had better keep your asbestos vest on - the shower of fire will still come! The only thing is that it will be provoked by World Groups and not Gates's MSN.

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By stlucifer

edited Sep 30, 2005 - 8:30 PM

I believe that youngsters and others who are offended by adult content should not be exposed to it - not even by accidently stumbling upon a site.
But I want access to adult material and, as an adult, i abhor censorship.
It seems to me that the only fair solution is to restrict access by confining adult material to its own group of sites.

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By Oldruffian

edited Sep 28, 2005 - 6:48 AM

It will be a huge disruption when we are forced to move our group, which is very careful not to allow anything obscene or disgusting onto its site but will still probably be affected.

However the MSN system has never been satisfactory - it sometimes grinds to a halt, people are bounced out of the chat room or can never manage to enter it - and any email messages take about a day to filter through.

Added to the fact that we have these strange nanny-like people in charge of the operation, I think it will be a lot better when we are no longer with MSN. They have always been about as good as their operating system software - and the quality of that has made me a Mac user!

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By waxwings

edited Sep 28, 2005 - 4:57 AM

Comment on MSN's November plans:
why must the majority be punished for the sins of a minority? MSN say, they want sites to be acceptible to all, so what about the naturists? What about innocents who use the net for communication and chat to lovers and friends about the more personal side of human nature?
I manipulate photographs in tasteful and sometimes humorous ways to entertain my acquaintances, and this often includes nude people (men & women)but never anything that can be called obscene (sexual acts).
Sadly, it seems, we are now being told what we are allowed to say to our friends (or this is how it sounds).
How can MSN be unbiased towards its users when it restricts what they are allowed to do or say. I accept the bad language point, I don't like to hear swearing either; but as for moving all "adult content" (nudists and artists) to a site that, I suspect, will be infiltrated by perverts is an insulting and Hitlerish act.
It would be better, though a little more expensive (but MSN can afford it) to have monitors checking sites at random and removing the obscene, or punishing miscreants without removing the majority's freedom of choice.

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By LadyStarLight

posted Sep 27, 2005 - 9:52 PM

i really hope msn is reading all of our replies, DON'T U GET IT MSN, IF THE KIDS WANT PORN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THEY CAN STILL FIND IT ON THE WEB SO LEAVE OUR GROUPS ALONE

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By LadyStarLight

edited Sep 27, 2005 - 9:49 PM

i think what msn is doing is totally stupid. kids can find porn or whatever easily on the internet search so why bother moving or closing the adult or mature groups. the groups i am in are titled adult or mature and are private coz we don't want kids in our groups and even tho none of our stuff is really bad its our work and don't want to give anyone the freedom to access them unless we want them to. msn isn't avoiding anything by doing this. if kids want to see the bad stuff they can find it anywhere on the net. so msn should just leave everything alo