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Microsoft: We're Close to Shipping IE7

By Ed Oswald, BetaNews

August 24, 2006, 11:40 AM

Microsoft announced Thursday that it is making available the first release candidate of Internet Explorer 7, and it says it expects to quickly progress towards a final launch during the fourth quarter of this year.

Although Beta 3 was feature complete, RC1 includes some additional enhancements mainly under the hood. The new browser runs on Windows XP SP2 and Windows Server 2003.

Improvements have been made to performance, stability, security and application compatibility, says Microsoft. "We've made some changes that are not user noticeable but will cause IE to run more smoothly," IE group product manager Margaret Cobb told BetaNews.

Although the initial IE7 release candidate would be available only in English, the company expects to have localized versions in Arabic, Finnish, German and Japanese by September. In addition, RC1 will bring French and Spanish versions for the first time. The final version of IE7 will include 35 localizations, the same number offered in Windows.

IE7 notably adds a tabbed interface and improves on browser security. Microsoft has also built into the browser an RSS platform that provides a framework for downloading, storing and accessing RSS feeds across the Windows operating system.

Other enhancements include a simpler user interface, customizable search box, reworked favorites organization, and enhanced accessibility for people with disabilities. Under the hood, CSS improvements and transparent PNG support catch the browser up to rivals such as Firefox, and native support for XMLHTTP means AJAX-based Web applications will no longer require an ActiveX control to function.

RC1's main goal is to assist developers in ensuring that their Web sites are compatible with this impending update to Internet Explorer, Cobb said. "We're confident code that works in RC1 will be compatible with the final version," she explained.

On the subject of CSS, Cobb admitted that IE7 was still a work in progress. However, the IE team had worked to address two major issues, one concerning maximum/minimum height and width image issues, along with a bug that caused whitespace in list items.

To ease upgrading from previous versions of IE7, Cobb said RC1 also adds an uninstall feature, which would automatically remove any earlier beta releases of the software. In the past, testers would have to manually remove IE7 via Add/Remove programs.

Microsoft is very confident in this latest version of IE7, with Cobb saying she didn't see a need for a second release candidate. Still, she acknowledged that, "it all depends on feedback on RC1." Cobb would not commit to a more solid launch date other than saying that she was confident that the browser would ship in the fourth quarter.

For those using IE7 through Windows Vista, enhancements in RC1 would likely make it into the next public build of the next-generation operating system, along with under the hood improvements to Vista-specific IE7 features, Cobb revealed.

Internet Explorer 7 RC1 can be downloaded from FileForum for Windows XP SP2, Windows Server 2003, and x64 Editions of Windows. Try it out and tell us what you think below!

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By vickistar

edited Sep 26, 2006 - 11:56 AM

I loved ie7 rc1 until I got some virus and then when it was fixed ie7 kept giving me error must close messages. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling and even uninstalling ie6 and reinstalling to no evail. I can no longer run ie7 on my machine and ie 6 is being so irradic with popups too.

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By omidloving

edited Aug 25, 2006 - 1:14 AM

ie 7.0 mer30

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By cheneyohio

edited Aug 29, 2006 - 3:56 PM

Anyone considering downloading Internet Explorer 7 needs to read the release notes carefully!
If you should need to repair install or reinstall XP you will need to first uninstall Internet Explorer 7!!!!!!!

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By randal2k

posted Aug 29, 2006 - 1:37 PM

IE7 is crap, still non standard compliant. Closing tabs is easy, but first tab is always open. this leaves it as a standard non tabbed browser, with tabbing functionality. pathetic. It's also slower then 'Bon Echo' and is just as hijack able... one stop to smiley's site and walla... i had a new tool bar. I cannot even rate this product a 1.

For everyone that is saying, "but some people like IE", True, but using IE even 7 is the same as a person using rotary phone, because they like it better... it's totally useless today.

Opera is better, FireFox, Netscape and MyIE2 (an IE wrapper), all much better functionality, and as for viruses and tweaked behaviors and compliance to CSS standards, nothing in the Microsoft family will do.

Any site that is IE only, is/was created by a total noob Webmaster, so forget that logic.

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By dgnewman

edited Aug 27, 2006 - 4:17 PM

I have been using IE7 since Beta 1 alongside Firefox and Opera. Install problems with betas 1 thru 3 would drive me nuts on some systems, turned out I had to uninstall Zone Alarm to get the installer to complete!

I like the ability to setup multiple search engines natively and set the default to anything you like, the clean interface and the printing enhancements. Tabbed browsing is essential but I was grumpy that Beta 3 forced me to accept msn.com as my homepage, I couldn't even change that with registry hacks, was better in Beta 2. Beta 2 allowed me to set a tabbed group as home page as for FF or Opera.

The install of RC1 is light years ahead of the Betas and uninstall is clean and trouble free.

Unfortunately IE 7 still breaks my HP Director scanning software, even the latest version. I can print but not scan. It is a little known bug but still not fixed so I will continue with Opera for now. I aint going to get a new printer to let me use IE 7. C'mon HP/M$ get your act together.

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By Terumo

posted Aug 27, 2006 - 2:55 AM

Jeg liker IE7 veldig godt, den virker rask og grei. Jeg bruker den på er PC med celeron 2,93.
Den er også mye mere sikker.
Jeg gleder meg til ferig versjonen kommer.

Terumo

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By Dingo1

edited Aug 26, 2006 - 8:03 PM

I gave it a shot, but it breaks Outlook Express. It says I have no Internet connection. I believe this is because I have Outlook Express set up with a Hotmail account in addition to my regular email. Microsoft use to allow this, but now they want to stop it because you don't have ad's on Outlook Express and they are afraid of loosing the money. They have grandfathered those of us that had already set up accounts this way, it looks like IE7 will stop it for ever.

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By jonass

edited Sep 3, 2006 - 7:08 PM

the rc has such an increadible funny bug! just try to select a local file for remote upload...have fun
demovideo: http://jonas.elunic.de/ie%207.htm

source: http://jonas.elunic.de/b...explorer-7-rc-funny-bug/

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By FraserSoft

edited Aug 26, 2006 - 5:24 AM

I might be loosing it due to my age but I have just installed this download and the help/about states...
Version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519
Update Version;SP2;
That looks a bit like IE6 and all the new toolbars have gone. I'm confused but as I said it might be down to old age.
Advice from a friend of mine who had the same problem was to install it again and yes it works ok now..

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By Friar Tuck

edited Aug 25, 2006 - 4:02 PM

I tried an earlier beta release of IE7 and was not at all please. For those of us who run Flash Chats, IE 7 leaves alot to be desired.

In most cases that I have seen, IE7 cannot support Flashchat (Web Based for those that don't know)and causes the chats to not respond or just disappear requiring a relog in a fresh browser.

I'll stick with IE6 for a long time to come under the circumstances.

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By wincement

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 1:56 PM

...and native support for XMLHTTP means AJAX-based Web applications will no longer require an ActiveX control to function.

Hallelujah. Finally, no more browser-specific AJAX.

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By drumcat

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 1:43 PM

It's a space hog. I have IE6 down to one bar at the top; menu, address, google... IE7 takes that away, requiring no less than 3 toolbars, and that the Microsoft toolbars are mandatory.

Let me be the first to say that this is garbage. I don't need many buttons for a browser showing, and I don't need half the damn screen covered with menu bars.

If that's going to be the RC user interface, I'll be staying well away from that thing for a long time.

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By Drich

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 10:01 AM

I tried IE7 around the first release of it. I liked it but was having issues with a particular app that I use constantly. With this release I have no problems at all. Ill be using IE7 at this point.

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By Floodland

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 8:27 AM

If you can't release an OS, at least hurry up and release something, if you don't, stock will keep going down. It's bizarre to see people still defending IE6. 80% of the market share means there are MANY people that still don't know how to download and install a decent browser. For a 5 years work on the biggest software company IE7 sucks, but comparing with IE6 yes, is great! Now, all Beta-M$ trolls, you can attack me for free. I enjoy to see you defending the impossible and writing nosense.

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By extremely well

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 1:39 PM

MS stock has remained stagnant for about two years. I'm personally waiting a month for a Vista delay to be announced, MSFT prices to go down 10% or so, then jump in and buy mucho mucho stock!!! MS stuff coded/ripped in 2004-2006 is f_cking awesome. SQL..VS..Messenger..Vista..Office..Xbox..Mobile..OneCare..Exchange..Virtual PC.......

MSFT is going up 100% within 3 years. I'd buy the stock now, but I'm greedy ;)

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By Floodland

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 8:31 PM

I don't think MS latest stuff is awesome at all:
SQL didn't improved (even mysql or postgress work better AND are freeware)
Messenger is terrible, lagging behind Skype
Vista is delayed YEARS and is not working good
Latest Office (2004 for Mac) work PRETTY BAD
Xbox is a good product: I think MS should dedicate their efforts to hardware
Mobile 2005 is terrible, I don't know how they can sell an early alpha product as final
Exchange is another terrible product without improvements
And Virtual PC was a good product while Conectix did it. Microsoft ruined the whole idea in the last version.
In your shoes I'd look anywhere else to put my money on, but good luck!

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By extremely well

posted Aug 26, 2006 - 2:42 PM

Thanks! Let's come back and visit this url in 3 yrs time and see if I was wrong. You really think MS stock can go LOWER than it is now???

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By yanike

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 7:37 AM

IE7 is awesome :) With this release I know the final is going to be great.

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By prndll

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 9:31 PM

What's the point?

Getting IE7 will only lead to more frustrating headaches.....or do any of you actually believe that MS "finally" has it's act (and the code) together yet? How many more patches and fixes are required for this to be convincing enough?

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By extremely well

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 1:44 PM

I agree with the notion that an OS and browser should NOT update too frequently. But I think an update has been a bit overdue. Anywhere between 3 to 5 years is OK with me. Not less, certainly not more!

I hope the version after Vista is just a refresh, coming in 2010, which will include solid WinFS

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By IOMO

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 6:11 AM

Have you tried it? I was a devout Firefox user but I actually quite like IE7.

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By Skyfrog

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 12:58 AM

The point is IE7 is light years ahead of the crappy IE6. How will getting it lead to more headaches?

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By prndll

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 7:26 AM

The same thing was said with that same kind of thinking about IE6 when it came out in comparison to IE5.0 and IE5.5.

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By Skyfrog

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 1:31 PM

The move from IE5 to IE6 was not much of a change, the security still sucked. They HAVE corrected a lot of these problems in IE7 though, that isn't speculation it's a fact. So regardless of what was said about IE5, it does not matter. IE7 is definately a big improvment.

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By Ramhound

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 4:45 PM

I don't use Internet Explorer, but at the sametime, I don't want Microsoft not to update their browser. When that happens there is no hope for the Windows OS.

Vista is going to introduce alot to its users, although I disagree with getting rid of high quality digital playback via Blue-Ray and HDDVD and future products.

Its not looking good
1) You can't upgrade to Visa Professional from XP Professional. The version that does support this is likely to cost $500+ for a license. Thats exactly %25 of my computer, thats not going to happen, $200-250 is one thing in order to get the vast improvements.
2) You have o have x64 for Blue-Ray support
3) I am sure there are others.

Microsoft needs to STOP cutting features, the playback issue I speak of, is really important to me.

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By IOMO

edited Aug 25, 2006 - 6:13 AM

What relavence does you Vista comment have to IE7?

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By cooldude7273

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 7:37 PM

Where did you read you need x64 for Blu-Ray support? I see many references to Blu-Ray being included in my 32 bit copy. ;)

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By foxfyre

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 1:52 AM

Start here!
http://www.betanews.com/..._32bit_Vista/1156450463

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By RCS

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 8:54 AM

And then read the comments, that include a link showing it to be outdated news.

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By Joe Dirt

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 4:33 PM

Give it up Microsoft. Opera and Firefox have beaten you. Even version 7 of your browser. Just call it quits and go do something else...like making operating systems.

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By ladylust

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 10:35 PM

Can I get some of the crack your smokeing? I use Firefox but they are FAR from beating them. Microsoft owns well over 80% marketshare. The average internet drone uses IE - Thats complete domination of the market..

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By yokozuna

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 2:03 AM

Well, it depends where. Germany is a country where alternative browsers have over 50% market share. In the EU (counted as a whole) the penetration of alternative browsers exceeds 25% (actually it is closer to 30%). On the other hand, in Japan it is only 8% (1Q/2006).

http://www.e-janco.com/browser.htm

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By computershack

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 5:22 AM

Trouble is that Firefox are using flawed methods to calculate market percentage. A great deal of the time they quote the number of downloads. Don't know about you but I reckon I've downloaded Firefox a dozen or more times for the same PC. It's even more flawed when they include the sum total of all revisions. I'd imaging several hundred thousand, if not over a million, of those downloads are people upgrading to the next version.

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By Desides

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 10:46 AM

"Trouble is that Firefox are using flawed methods to calculate market percentage. A great deal of the time they quote the number of downloads."

Pst. Mozilla advertises the number of downloads. Third parties advertise its projected market share. Whenever--if ever--Mozilla says they've hit a certain share of market, they cite those third parties.

Complain elsewhere.

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By yokozuna

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 6:54 AM

I know that no method is 100% reliable.

The method based on cookies is relatively adequate, however, disliked by Web users. An interesting ranking (showing who browses Polish Web pages) based on cookies is here: http://www.ranking.pl/Ne...r/pl/2006-08-24/#_link2 It was made yesterday ("polscy internauci = Polish users", "internauci zza granicy = foreign users", "wszyscy internauci = combined", "proba: uzytkownikow = sample: users") and considered as relatively reliable (& published every other week).

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By roj

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 8:54 PM

Where?

IE still owns well over 90% of the market.

End of discussion.

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By extremely well

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 10:20 PM

Last I've heard they have 80% worldwide. But they'll have 90% again...

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By Skyfrog

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 6:19 PM

"Opera and Firefox have beaten you."

Yes indeed, behold their puny market share!

Wait...

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By Desides

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 5:32 PM

Unfortunately, not everyone using IE6 is upgrading to Firefox or Opera. IE7, even with its quirks mode, is still better than no IE7.

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By extremely well

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 4:40 PM

IE-based browsers (incl IE6 and 7) will make up 90% of browser market in 2009. Take THAT for "getting beaten up". The average user WILL NOT tolerate incompatibilities with websites or SPENDING A WHOLE MONTH tweaking a sh**ty piece of software (in this case, a browser). Bookmark this remark and we'll both visit it again on 1/1/2009, 'k, papa?

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By Grazer

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 7:19 PM

IE-based browsers (incl IE6 and 7) will make up 90% of browser market in 2009
90%? Is that all?

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By extremely well

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 1:48 PM

I like sure bets ;)

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By extremely well

edited Aug 24, 2006 - 4:18 PM

"She was confident that the browser would ship in the fourth quarter."

She better be. Vista is scheduled to go GOLD by November... So it's time to cleanup the biggest, visible bugs and leave the nasty tiny c0ckroaches of IE7+Vista alive....until eradication via Raid-spraying SP1 on said products somewhere in 3Q2007.

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By eclipsingdivinity

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 3:35 PM

Nice to see some speedy progress, but it still consistently crashes on me. Which is weird because i'm merely visiting a website like 1up.com or something of that nature. Beta 1 of Firefox 2 doesn't give me so much of problems. Though IE7 is sleeker.

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By Skyfrog

edited Aug 24, 2006 - 2:52 PM

Finally, they fixed the favorites bug. The one where you couldn't delete favorites from the menu without changing focus to another application and back first. That was driving me crazy in Beta 3. Everything seems to be working fine now. Takes a bit of tweaking to get it to look good, but any browser does. Mainly getting the menu bar back up where it belongs:

http://www.tech-recipes....lorer_ie7_tips1375.html

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By JacenSolo

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 3:01 PM

The most effective way to delete favorites with IE is via Windows Explorer anyway IMO.

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By Skyfrog

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 7:34 PM

I guess it depends on what you're used to. I've been deleting them straight from the Favorites menu since Internet Explorer 4.0 :)

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By flake

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 2:48 PM

Damn, it would have been nice to see pressing questions to Ms. Cobb about a commitment on future CSS support plans :/

From reading IE7 devel blogs it's fairly obvious that upper managment is at fault for failing to address these long standing concerns.

At least they fixed the PNG transparency thing and the most egregious of CSS bugginess. :)

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By JacenSolo

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 2:36 PM

Have they fixed the slowness issue with it yet?

Last time I used IE7, it was extremely slow... to the point that I gave up on it.

Personally through, I think I'll wait for Vista before using IE7...

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By Skyfrog

edited Aug 25, 2006 - 1:00 AM

I did notice in beta 3 some odd slowdowns from time to time, mostly with switching between pages. So far RC1 seems to be running very smoothly for me.

Edit: There is still an annoying delay when closing a tab and trying to click on another one. Hopefully it will be fixed by the final (yeah I know, not likely).

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By flake

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 2:50 PM

The only slowness I've noticed with beta3 is when you ctrl+t to open a new tab.

Overall, I'd say it's at least as fast as any of the moz products and has far less memory leak concerns. I'd be surprised if it's as fast as Opera though.

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By JacenSolo

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 2:56 PM

Okay. I'll take your word on it and install it.

Does IE7 come with an Uninstaller? So I can go back to IE6 if I don't like it.

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By Skyfrog

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 3:09 PM

I just checked Add/Remove programs and I don't see an uninstaller for RC1.

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By codeforge

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 3:14 PM

It does create an uninstaller. It's listed as 'Windows Internet Explorer 7' on my system, which caught me out for a while as I was expecting it to be listed under 'Microsoft Internet Explorer 7'.

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By Secret Agent Man

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 6:28 PM

I guess they're re-affirming the fact that Internet Explorer is only for Windows, as opposed to just being a Microsoft product that could be use on several OS's.

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By Skyfrog

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 3:32 PM

Yes, you're right. I forgot they changed the name.

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By The MAZZTer

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 2:28 PM

Uninstall any previous betas of IE7 before installing this, or you may find yourself ultimately reinstalling Windows.

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By Intrusive_Rogue

edited Aug 24, 2006 - 3:47 PM

Still trying to fix your moms computer from when you tried to upgrade to beta 3?

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By Skyfrog

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 2:50 PM

RC1 does that for you automatically now.

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By PC_Tool

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 1:15 PM

Are they *just* announcing that they will release it, or are the announcing it's release?

IOW: Will the RC1 be released on Thursday, or just talked about?

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By JacenSolo

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 2:36 PM

"Internet Explorer 7 RC1 can be downloaded from FileForum for Windows XP SP2, Windows Server 2003, and x64 Editions of Windows. Try it out and tell us what you think below!"

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By PC_Tool

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 5:19 PM

Heh...

I meant to do that...

...it was a test, you see...

....you passed. ;)

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By Intrusive_Rogue

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 1:27 PM

I just downloaded it, so RC1 is available right now.

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By bourgeoisdude

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 12:38 PM

"To ease upgrading from previous versions of IE7, Cobb said RC1 also adds an uninstall feature, which would automatically remove any earlier beta releases of the software. In the past, testers would have to manually remove IE7 via Add/Remove programs."

Finally--and it is much more "aware" of running apps/etc. that conflict with it and warns you about them. That means I might even recommend this download to noobies that dislike Firefox...after I do a few more "sabotage" tests, that is.

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By JacenSolo

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 2:41 PM

Why recommend IE 7 over FF and Opera? If someone doesn't like those two alt browsers, I tell them to go links/lynx or go home :P

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By extremely well

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 4:12 PM

I'm unwilling to endure (daily) compatibility issues, hence I won't be an Opera or Firefox user for at least 6 months. I am and most likely will remain well into 2007 - a Maxthon lover.

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By ale5000

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 7:41 PM

extremely well: There are also sites that work fine in Opera and Firefox but fail in IE; there also too many site that work in IE only because they use hacks to fix IE bugs.

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By extremely well

edited Aug 25, 2006 - 1:58 PM

Yes, I hit one of those once in a blue moon. Those sites that tell me "your browser is broken, go download Firefox". Relevant point is not whether they exist, but rather what is the ratio between A and B where A is sites that look bad+ on IE (but fine on Firefox), and B is sites that look bad+ on Firefox (but look fine on IE). In my experience (and for the websites I visit/enjoy) the ratio has been at least 1:50...

IETAB isn't good enough for me, either (at this time at least).

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By The MAZZTer

posted Aug 24, 2006 - 2:28 PM

That didn't work for me. When I "upgraded" IE7, explorer.exe would no longer run. At all.

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By sld

posted Aug 25, 2006 - 9:13 AM

Go to the last page of Internet Options and do a reset. (I troubleshooted a friend's installation; he doesn't use FF or Opera)
I'm using FF 2.0b2 to type this. :D

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