it's the biggest insane that I have read in my life.. how can some stupid idiot to prohibit me to read a lyrics of some song or to play music from tabs... if that company released a book of tabs and that it possible to download it for free in pdf.. yes that against copyright... but what if i'm reading just tabs from the net, who made a people by listening that music? it's against even a human right... it's absoletely the same as prohibiting to reproduce for example a sound of a motorcycle by harly davidson because they copyrighted it... total insane.. the world is totally going crazy..

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One thing that should be noted is some smaller bands don't even sale or make sheet music or tab books. So really for some songs (pretty much every song I'd care to learn to play) the only place to find tabs for them is the internet.

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PLEASE I NEED YOU TO HELP ME GET THE ARTIST NAME AND ALBUM NAME OF THIS CHORUS , I DONT WANNA RUN AWAY BUT I CANT TAKE IT ,I DONT UNTERSTAND.IF I WASNT MEND FOR YOU THEN WHY DOES MY HEART TELLS ME THAT I AM

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**** **** ****ety **** ****

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i hope the MPA chokes on their fancy a** food

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y the **** did it have to be mx tabs?

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y does the music industry wanna take away all i have to live for. it'll start with just a few sites and eventually it'll grow to all of them untill we have to pay for fuked up` expensive ****ing music books and that is just ****ing great. because like most normal people i dont have money poring out of my ass. so what am i supposed to do just quit playing bass drop out of my band just because the ****ing MPA's want to make what a little more money than they usually do. thats just ****ing great they're making more mony o what r they gonna do by a new sports car? or what sign some new artist? o but wait they cant because there are new artist because no one can learn to play music anymore. so all in all this is gonna **** everyone over in the end. if any MPA's ever read this i have something to tell u ...

GO **** YOURSELF! YOU FCKING a** HOLE

so thanx for ruining my life MOTHER ****ER!

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This is totally insane! The only reason the MPA is removing tab sites off the internet is just so they can make more money. It's obvious they really don't care about young musicians who are learning to play the guitar, bass, drums, etc. because they are removing one of their only song learning tools. Being a beginner electric guitar player myself, I feel cheated because tab sites were the way that I was learning to become a better musician. And tabs isn't exactly stealing the artist's song work either. Most of the tabs that you find on the internet aren't 100% correct, and you often have to search around to find the right version, or you have to figure out that part by yourself. If tab sites are removed from the internet it may stop many young musicians from even wanting to try to play guitar, drums, bass, etc. because they will have to buy expensive tab books so they can learn their favorite songs. This is really killing the youth's desire to become musicians. How horrible!!!

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www.mysongbook.com doesn't share anymore!
This site was culturally comparable to Wikipedia: files loaded by amateurs could be valued and corrected by everyone!
It's really sad that they banned something like this!

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im pretty much a beginning guitarist n the only way i can learn a lotta songs is thru tabs. almost all my friends that play guitar got ther start thru tab sites! now ther gone n im doomed n it pretty much sux! tabs r written by other ppl so its not stealing, id learn them wit the song but im not talented enuf yet so i really think the record companies needa get over themselves n think about wut ther doing!

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It's about time.

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I think it’s unnecessary to go around suing tablature sites. Throwing people in jail is to far too. Most beginners or young musicians cant read sheet music. I rarely see any music in tablature. Tablatures are not one hundred percent accurate and are not copied from out of the books. It is mostly someone elses work. I think tablature sites is a good thing because people are encouraged to buy CD's so they can listen to it and get the right timing and stuff. Bands do not make a living out of sheet music. Whenever I get a tablature for something most of the time I want to buy the CD and I do. I think tablature sites should not be illegal and I think we should have more of it!

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How do they expect musicians to be able to get a cover right, if they do not have the tabs needed to do so? It isn't copyright infringement at all! They are not claiming the covers as their own, and sure as hell aren't getting financial credits for them.

And frankly, an official website of any musician(s) have the right to put up their OWN lyrics, as they see fit. Some people always want to make more out of things then should be.

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The only reason why the MPA's president is demanding jail time is probobly because one of his fancy-rich golf buddies tried to learn the Beatle's Blackbird at guitartabs.com [guitartabs.com] so he can impress his girlfriend at dinner party and screwed it up because not only the lyrics were wrong, but out of the 20 versions posted; the one he picked was transposed in open D-tuning and even if played correctly, it would have still sounded like sh*t.

I'll try to be nice on this subject. Okay, skip how I feel about corps. (they're all greedy rackets). Now, as a musician: BIG WHOOP-DEE-DO!

Listen, every musician depends on some sort of material to help them advance with their insturment. -This is no lie. Also, they pay more money over the course of a lifetime with instruction, insturment maintenance, etc. All this adds up in the long run and now musicanship, study, and research is available all over the internet because of technology. -Here's the problem: This isn't really about musicianship.

Real musicians are diciplined and not dependant on these internet sites for gaining knowledge of how to play songs. They are the boys and girls who do their homework and come on; is it that freaking dificult to figure out a song? Besides, most of the music and lyrics on the net are inacurate and there are very few people who actually know what they are talking about. I mean, a lot of the available music is so ridiculous that's it's hard to imagine there is a world of half-assed talent that won't leave their computer or get up off their a** to make some not-so-really-hard work pay off. So yeah, I think it would be great to see some of these guitar tab authors/web admins serve jail time for impersinating a musician or being a sloppy scholar. But you can't jail someone for being an idiot in the U.S.

So, get over it! The only way to deal with this is by blowing the nose, wiping away the tears, and either buy a book (most books are less than $20) or spend some time listening. Better yet: write your own damn music. -Start off writing about how you really feel or something about what the world would be like if the Nazis won the war. Who knows, maybe it will be a hit and you can see for yourself the deal with people taking your work and freely distributing it all over hell with all sorts of misguiding information, flaws, keys signatures.

As soon as Sony Corp. owns the rights to at least 2/3 of my favorite chords...Then, I'll start to worry!

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Iam a drummer and practically i learned to pla and i learn my favorite songs reading tabs in the popular sites, i tell you one thing they can´t control the internet, the information age is a reality, we have p2p software to share tabs :D nobody can´t stop this come on!

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I find it quite amusing that the RIAA finds that users who burn the midnight oil powertabbing songs (quite difficultly...my hats off to all of them!!!) are breaking the law.

I am sure that purchasing offical music books from record companies is the way to go.

I have purchased them in the past AND NEVER WILL AGAIN! Nothing like having a 90 year old man wearing polyester pants and playing an Wurlitzer organ transcribing "Eruption" by Van Halen. "Yes...well that would be 24 bars of a D chord...yup that's about right! Nice and accurate."

The recording industry will bottom itself out very soon. They have it coming! To all of the overpaid executives...save your money while you can! you are in for some s*** times ahead. Keep signing rap "artists" and handing out recording contracts to everyone and his uncle.

To all people who have writted a score using Power Tab...THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK! YOU GUYS DESERVE A MEDAL FOR FUIGURING OUT THE SOFTWARE AND FOR HAVING A KEEN EAR! THANK YOU ALL AGAIN!!!

I will be sure to seed my collection throughout the Internet for many years to come. Rest assured.

How about BitTorrent tab download links! Hey...sounds like a plan. A lot quicker than downloading movies!

Here's another one. Someone out there should invent a software patch for POwer Tab that REVERSES THE SCORE. Once the user downloads it, RUN THE PATCH and REVERSE IT BACK.

I will love searching for NELAH NAV in lieu of VAN HALEN!

Please...send your comments to me at gc5150@hotmail.com

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Whats next? Is someone gonna claim they have exclusive rights to the pentatonic minor scale? It seems to me that since every song follows tonal laws that no really writes their own music they just rearrange the already catagorized scales,modes, and chord progressions. First, I'll learn a song by ear long before I'll ever buy the tab. Second, why don't they give us a legal alternative using current technology i.e. Powertab purchase per song before litigation ( the artist gets paid their happy I get to learn a song in an hour instead of 10 hours so I'm happy). They just sue sue sue first then try to figure a legal way to make money. Their doing it backwards. Make a legal pay way first then sue the non compliers. Don't give me that the alternative is to buy the books its a waste of trees. I have a stack of tab books with WRONG tab in them Extreme pornograffitti get the funk out is wrong, Eric Johnson cliffs of dover 3 DIFFERENT renditions, etc. If I pay a lot of money for tabs I want them to be right!! 75 percent of online tabs are wrong, very wrong but there free. And if a tab is wrong its not the same sequence of notes therefore is not the actual song it's a new creation. Suing for lyrics is just, well, nonsence especially the junk lyrics in pop songs. I download music legally now that I have a reasonable legal alternative and I will be more than happy to pay for my tab given a reasonable legal alternative. Figure something out soon!!!! Downloading tab is illegal I guess but so is taking an extra five minutes on your break at work. It is stealing but I don't see employers throwing people in jail for it.

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clearing some stuff up, the tab and lyric sites are illegal (but the idea of jail time is really too extreme). the companies that print the tab books pay the bands for the rights to do that. except most bands arent popular enough to have someone want to make the book for them, so we're kinda screwed there, but the tab/lyric sites are only depriving them of money that they weren't gonna get anyway. my biggest problem with all of this, is that they're attacking people that put a copy of a tab on the internet, but cover bands (who can make up to over $1 million a year) are making money off of performing something copyrighted (and not paying royalties). honestly maybe the bands wouldn't complain as much if the record companies would let them have a little more money. i dont think anythings gonna change, and they are going to keep going after sites, but hopefully they try RIAA's idea and try to find a way to keep the main sites up and make it legal. i really wouldn't mind paying $1 to get a tab for a song, instead of paying over $20 for a book to learn only 1 riff from 1 song. only problem with that is getting the tabs onto the site (a membership based site would fix all of that). hopefully it works out, i dont want to see all of the sites get shut down, i do still use them.

And for beginners learning guitar, find a site that explains music theory and all of that stuff, it's a lot more important to know how music works than to know how to play someone elses song, and if you learn how to figure out what key a song is in by listening to it, and you learn to hear different chords, you can figure it out on your own. it turns you into a better guitarist in the end.

Also, boycotting wont accomplish anything except for screwing your favorite band becuase they stopped making money (most of the bands now OWE the record compainies a lot of money -- they BORROW money to pay for a tour, music videos, promotion of a cd, distribution of a cd, recording. unless they have engough money to pay for any of it themselves, but most musicians DON'T have a lot of money (ex. Ed Roland from Collective Soul had to mortgage his house to pay to record Youth))

If you want this to get fixed, the ONLY way to make it work for us is give the major tab sites the idea to offer an agreement with MPA to pay them money for every tab downloaded, and then actually pay the sites for membership. but we made that look like a bad idea with the napster thing, because as greedy as we said the RIAA was, we weren't willing to pay a really CHEAP amount of money to get our music. we can get what we want and let these people working their asses off to try to make a cd that we'll all like make some money.

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I can't believe this. I started off playing bass four years ago and started off by getting the tabs to Pixies songs. If I hadn't done that, I would be an absolutely s***e musician right now.

I also have to point out that MUSICIANS DO NOT MAKE A LIVING OFF TAB BOOKS AND SHEET MUSIC. This law trivialises music and as many people have said it's going to make it a lot tougher for beginners. It'll cost anybody who can't work out by ear a fortune trying to get tab books for every song they want to play and in the long run will probably discourage people from taking up instruments and will probably cause the music industry to spiral even more. Maybe I'm being overly pessimistic, but I know I won't ever buy a tab book, and I doubt many people I know would buy them either.

"Bite chew suck away the tender parts
I want to break it up I want to smash it up I want to f**k it up
I want to watch it come down
Maybe afraid of it let’s discredit it let’s pick away at it"

(ironically I got those lyrics from an "illegal" website, come sue me, MPA. Wait a second - does that mean that I'm not even allowed write up lyrics that I hear from the song here? Because surely this isn't a legal lyrics site either.)

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Basically these tabs are created by the individuals themselves, not stolen from the band's "Underground Lair". If you are taking these tabs away then you are basically telling these fantastic guitarists that live all around us to stop playing music and teaching us how to play. You are basically saying that the only way that we hear music is not by the music community, but my the music corporation. Basically you pompous, ignorant corporates have too much free time on your hands. Why not try to stop the illegal downloading of music before you try to stop millions of hard working up and coming musicians from learning how to better themselves in a legally binding way. Pigs...

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oh come on! youre breakin my balls!!

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stupid mofo's how the **** are begginers gonna ****ing lean how to play guitar like theie ****ing heros....this is a ****ing outrage these ****ing people who made these ****ing laws should have a good hard look at themselves in ****ing the mirror...thank u brendan dewald i agree wif u completly...stupid mofos

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What the hell is everybody problem. Ive been playing guitar for 4 years now and been using tab sites freely . Its not actually the original peice of music that is on the tab sites its what the person works out and putes it there so people can learn it .Why must this be done its dumb and childish people just looking for a reason to be stupid and moan why dont they get a real job and a real life .

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What are you trying to accomplish from this? Many beginner guitarists learn from tabs, taking them away is not the way to go, your taking away the ability to learn something, is this another way you save the music industry, because believe me, this will destroy it, you basically raping millions of beginner guitarists of an ability to learn, good job. If you’re afraid of people stealing your music, believe me, if they are good enough to play the song live, on an album whatever, they are good enough to figure it out themselves, this is just some sick way of getting money, and the people that thought of this should be thrown in prison.

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

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if you think about it in relevence to how a library works its pretty much the same.
Say you gotta do a report, you check out a book, you read some articles in the book,
you have some jist of what the book is about in your head. you use your knowledge in your
head and regergitate some of it, maybe use some quotes for an argument.You cite the source and
whatnot. Tabbing music and having the availability of it over the internet is like having an accesible
online library available to all, no one is going to try to claim the song as thier own, if they shut down
tab sites, they need to shut down libraries in all fairness, which would be a ****ing stupid thing to do.
tabs are mostly our interpretation of the song, we dont get paid for it and we arent taking anything away

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A Guitar Tabs that you get off the net are and always will be meerily an interpretation of the song that someone has figured out by either watching the said artist play the song live or listening to the song over and over again and trust me I know some bassists who will work out an entire album in the car on the way to a gig this is far from an impossible feat. Thats why at the begining of each tab there a message saying something along the lines of "this is meerily my interpretation of the song". These tabs are not always correct and almost never have the time signatures so many people if they want to cover the song perfectly will go an purchase the official tab and many of these so called "Illegal" sites have links to where you can do so. You would be surprised how many variations of a single song can exist. Many signed bands even have links on their sites to places where you can get tabs and post their own lyrics on their sites. This is just a shoddy try by the industry to bully us into buying their ridiculously overpriced tabulature books (£17 is simply ridiculous) and if we werent in the corperate world we are in today I would have expected it to get laughed out of court but nowerdays anythings possible in modern america. I just hope law doesnt spread over here to britain.

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instead of blaming this and that, take action

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blame metallica

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People won't quit buying their product.
So, they will run amok as long as weakwilled, undereducated politicians allow.
And that applies to all countries, not just the US, though they seem to be the start of all this kind of nonsense.

Don't like them? Choke them to death by refusing to buy their crap and don't listen to a radio (they pay royalties according to listeners). No paid services like iTunes.

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TIME TO TAKE ACTION NOW (here is how)
We all know that MPAA/MPA and RIAA have been targeting innocent or the people who can not defend themselves, so lets BOYCOTT the singers/bands/publishers etc who have been funding those organisations, and never buy anything they release? NOW?

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its so simple ,dont buy any of the products ,bankrupt then ,have the last word

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Yah,

The thing is people are creating these tabs themselves...a lot of times the tabs aren't even right, or exactly the same as the original tablature. When I tab a song I listen to it and then try to make the same sound...I don't always get it right, but it usually sounds the same.

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Can you even imagine how crowded our jails would be if this actually went through?

They're overcrowded enough now as it is without adding half a billion people to them.

Out of every single person I know, including grandparents, I can think of a grand total of 7 who would not be going to jail.

Yeah, our legal system and penitentiary system can't even handle the load it has now, lets throw half the country into it to really fsck things up.

Absolutely brilliant. Whoever thought this up should be given the Nobel Prize for Stupid...

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LOL, this is beyond laughable! How the hell do they lose money from lyrics??? Esp. if it doesn't include musical notation? Sure, lyrics are copyrighted, but as long as I'm not plagurizing they don't have a leg to stand on.

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Not all bands have tabs to all their songs for sale. A few popular bands do, but that's about it.

It would be stupid to take all the tabs off, I understand taking the lyrics, but the tabs??

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Wow, the Powers-That-Be in the music biz decided they just didn't have quiiiiiiiite enough enemies. This should remedy that nicely.

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Ok folks, here's how it works:

§ 501. Infringement of copyright3

(a) Anyone who violates any of the exclusive rights of the copyright owner as provided by sections 106 through 122 or of the author as provided in section 106A(a), or who imports copies or phonorecords into the United States in violation of section 602, is an infringer of the copyright or right of the author, as the case may be. For purposes of this chapter (other than section 506), any reference to copyright shall be deemed to include the rights conferred by section 106A(a). As used in this subsection, the term "anyone" includes any State, any instrumentality of a State, and any officer or employee of a State or instrumentality of a State acting in his or her official capacity. Any State, and any such instrumentality, officer, or employee, shall be subject to the provisions of this title in the same manner and to the same extent as any nongovernmental entity.

(b) The legal or beneficial owner of an exclusive right under a copyright is entitled, subject to the requirements of section 411, to institute an action for any infringement of that particular right committed while he or she is the owner of it.[...]

AND:

§ 106. Exclusive rights in copyrighted works36

Subject to sections 107 through 122, the owner of copyright under this title has the exclusive rights to do and to authorize any of the following:

(1) to reproduce the copyrighted work in copies or phonorecords;

(2) to prepare derivative works based upon the copyrighted work;

(3) to distribute copies or phonorecords of the copyrighted work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending;

(4) in the case of literary, musical, dramatic, and choreographic works, pantomimes, and motion pictures and other audiovisual works, to perform the copyrighted work publicly;

(5) in the case of literary, musical, dramatic, and choreographic works, pantomimes, and pictorial, graphic, or sculptural works, including the individual images of a motion picture or other audiovisual work, to display the copyrighted work publicly; and

(6) in the case of sound recordings, to perform the copyrighted work publicly by means of a digital audio transmission.

If any of you wish to read the entire text of the US Copyright Laws, you may do so at the following link:

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html

So now, if you still have issues, then run for Congress and work to change the copyright statutes.

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this is an outrage. they're going to scour the web and take down ALL the lyric/tab sites? i see books in stores where tabs are published, is that illegal too? are they going to recall all those books or have them destroyed? why is it unlawful to look up lyrics to songs? i am quickly losing all faith in the music industry. down with the mpa, riaa and mpaa, you guys have completely lost your minds.

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Hey, guys....

MPA? I thought RIAA and the MPAA were enough.

Fine, hope RIAA can cope with this now. I'm out. They have pushed the market enough. Now one of their back-hills siblings is jumping on the bandwagon. It's just too much. It's nearly laughable, and entirely unjustifiable.

This is me doing an about-face on RIAA and their cronies. Enjoy it folks. Time for a little crow, I hear it tastes like chicken...

Any songs they do not want in the public domain should be banned from being played on the radio. The second it hits the free and public airwaves, they lose their rights to claim ownership or distribution rights.

This is ridiculous. If the artists no longer want their music to be talked about, listened to, played, or traded, then they really need to STOP MAKING IT.

This has gone way beyond a simple days pay for a days work.

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As long as any lyrics quoted give proper reference/citation to the owner of the lyrics, (just as is expected for any quoted works in a book, magazine, website, etc.), I do not see how posting lyrics can be illegal in any way.

For the MPA to try to enforce any legal action against persons/organizations that follow accepted rules of reference, would be to challenge existig MLA (Modern Language Association) system of citation. The MLA handbook (2003 Edition) discusses how to cite Musical Composition, Sound Recording, Film or Video, and so on in Section 4b (general guidelines for listing authors).

To assert that the MPA can override accepted MLA rules for citation, would be to declare any and all composition that cite lyrics or excerpts of lyrics to be illegal. If such an argument could be upheld in court, you might as well sue everyone in the world for at one time or another violating the law.

What I find most concerning is that there appear to be TWO DISTINCT SETS OF LAWS (or certainly enforcement) when it comes to lyrics, tablature, or any other published works. One set for those works owned by large corporations, and another for works published by the rest of us. If I write my own lyrics and publish on my website, and others copy them, good luck if *I* want to sue someone -- I'll get nowhere... I am a nobody.

Well, we ALL have the power to stop the MPA and RIAA efforts. It is us, the consumers, who fund their operations through purchases of CDs/Movies, etc. We all like listening to songs and watching movies, and these organizations know that we will continue to do so (and continue funding their attack on US, the same persons they count on for funding). If we hate this action enough, we can STOP BUYING THEIR PRODUCTS.

Last, in all fairness to the MPA, I am guessing that many of the sites in question are not following the works-cited rules I mention above. Perhaps these sites should start there, and then they will have something to base a legal defense on if/when the time comes.

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Its amazing that we let the RIAA and MPAA get away with this kind of crap.

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albums aern't selling like they user to be thats for sure. music is going downhill anyway espacially in dance almost every dance song i hear these days is an 80's remix

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next time you like a song, don't even hummm it or you'll get jail time!

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tactics like this never work in the long term. I see a very strong underground music community in our future that will grow stronger with time.

to quote the princess "the tighter your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers"

the underground community will come to dominate, using the lowcost distribution of the internet as it's primary tool, and RIAA will become a coporate lesson learned.

man I hope I'm right

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Uuugh I am so freakin sick of the RIAA. Enough already!

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What is the problem with lyrics? Lyrics are a way for parents to encourage or discourage songs. Otherwise we have no idea what some songs are about... I think the industry just went too far...

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I'll never buy another album again! Its still possible to get them online even without all the p2p apps. I had stopped and actually bought a couple of albums in the lsat month, but this is beyond commerce. You know the two albums I bought didn't have the lyrics in them!? I personally like to know the lyrics to songs. If the artist doesn't want me to know them then don't make the music! Not to mention nearly any media player you can download has a lyric viewer builtin.

I wont rehash what everyone has said as it seems its clear what people think.

Just keep in mind that the RIAA includes the artist. The artist, not all, but most, are pushing this. They are all doing what they can because record sales have been, are and will be dropping. Instead of putting out better music or being more selective when signing a new artist.

And in truth it isn't that albums aren't selling like they use to be, its just that the growth in sales from year to year isn't there like it use to be.

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what can I say, the music industry is getting creative by days. what's next? are they going to outlaw sing out loud and karaoke?

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First they glue you, then they sue you. We are but the flies sticking in their nets.

Corporations are treated like human persons before the law, but do not care about human worths at all.

Freedom's just a mockery. On every dollar bill they say "in god we trust", but the bill is all they really care about.

This is the glorious USA, built on the blood of human beings from the beginning. And even their foundation was about nothing but money - tax money. Go ahead and try a similar thing nowadays in the USA.

"Freedom" and "Democracy" is just the non existing rationalization with which they have brainwashed the whole world for ages.

Did you know that IBM not only supplied the NAZIs their early punching card systems for use in their concentration camps, but also maintained them? So they must have known about what was going in the concentration camps, but: where money is the highest worth, not even millions of corpses are bothering anybody.

So - why is anybody astonished about such laws and judicial practics...

And - btw - read Charles d***ens -- good lord, not even names are aloud any more - - "Little Dorrit" or other works, then you'll have the picture of debtor's prisons, which we soon will have again, like many other practics from the "noble ages" . . .

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...ok...I can see the RIAAs point when they sue someone to protect their intellectual property and for going after those who download the music without paying for it, it's damaging to their reputation but understandable...this on the other hand...this is going TOO FAR....what the hell is the RIAA thinking? Now it's illegal to even get the lyrics to your favorite songs? That's pathetic.

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What I'm wondering is if they're going to prosecute their own artists, because let's face it most people that learn to play an instrument, specially guitar, will search for tabs of music that they like, for practice and to play them because they're good.
I think that most famous musicians will be included in the law-suites.
STUPID!

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P.S. on further note i am placing a copyright on the words I, YOU, them, we, us, and, others.
get ready to pay me my fee's

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I say we send in a counter suit. because the way i can look at this is fine BUT if my kids like a song that gives my kids the wrong MSG. say if the song stated. all men are evil but for Iraq men. should i be able to take them to Cort for letting my kids hear that statement when i didn't know it was in the song? I think NOT. i want to know what msg's are embedded in the music my kids listen too. i also do this to help me relate to my kids. when my kids have a prob. as of now i use my kids music to help me talk about the problem. and gives us something to relate too.

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Can you see where this is all leading?

A "I heard this great song!"
B "How does it go?"
A "I'm not allowed to tell you"
B "What are the words?"
A "Can't tell you that either."

:-/

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So let me get this straight they are suing sites that supply the lyrics for songs is that right. If so this is the most stupid thing i have ever heard some albums i own have the lyrics printed in the little wallet book thingy, what's that all about?

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dose this mean that if i listen a song and wirte down the lyric and share with others,then i just have a nice reason to be put in jail??? so they have to control my brain so i could lose the capability to remember a song.next,how about i sing a song on street?am i pirating ???because other people can hear it and remember it??S***

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I just hope they don't go after my highly illegal large collection of MIDI, RMI, and ST music.

THEY'RE BUSTING IN WITH IRON CLAD BOOTS AND GUNS OH S___!

I swear this is some of the dumbest crap I've heard lately. These sites have been around almost as long as the internet has, and NOW they want to take action?

I think I'm about to be physically ill.

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And they wonder why there sales are going down (other than crappy music) we have had it with all this bs. You want money ? Be Original do something worth our money and time .... Same goes for movies how many more herbie remakes can there be ? Arrrrrrrggggg

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This is all Metallica's fault, right?

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hee hee, this reminds me of the essay I was writing last night, where I am to "give credit where it is due."

The book says "no part of the material protected by this copyright may be reproduced or utilized in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopying, recording, or by any information storage and retrieval system, without written permission from the copyright owner."

Kinda makes it hard to do an essay and include quotes.

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Sheesh, what are they thinking about, or better, ARE they even thinking? :rolleyes:

People need lyrics for various reasons, which certainly are not to steal someone's work. People like to sing along to songs, but not all songs are in a person's native language, so they need some help to sing along, or to translate & actually understand a song.

Also, not every CD (better said almost NO CD) I ever bought has the lyrics in them. I'm glad that the album "In Search of Angels" by the Scottish band Runrig actually HAS lyrics in there, because now try to sing along to "Cho Buidhe Is A Bha I Riabh". That's quite something even if you have the lyrics to it, lol :P

Also, to anyone who can remember the good old days...artists shared their songs with each other, and were happy when the others got a success out of it. Like "Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da". Written by Lennon/McCartney, but became a hit for the band Marmalade.

It's just as rediculous as going to a concert paying $100+ dollars for a seat and not even be allowed to take a picture or film or anything. Crazy people. (I remember, sometime between 1994 and 1997, don't know exactly anymore, there was an open air concert of Backstreet Boys and Aaron Carter in a soccer stadium in my city, and people were allowed to take pictures and film and whatever). Times sure have changed for the worse. :(

No wonder that there are illegal sites, bootlegs and what not all.

I PREFER to buy my CDs at a store, but with all that s*** going on also regarding copy protection with spyware, I'd rather stay with the stuff I have and just don't buy anything anymore.

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Pretty soon the recording companies will attempt to claim copyright to musical notes, chords, chord progressions and scales...then artists will have to pay them to even write songs.

This has to be the most insane thing I have heard to date. Death to fat, greedy record companies.

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Displaying lyrics of songs is the equivalent of "publishing" which is an exclusive right of a publisher under the copyright act. The copyright owner has every right to pursue someone who violates their exclusive rights. Legal right aside, the moral propriety of IP enforcement in this circumstance is highly questionable. The proverbial cat is out of the bag and the industry hopes to recapture it through intimidation.

I would categorize these times as the decade of Parasitic IP Terrorism.

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To me this comes down to once again the record companies showing that they are behind the times. Lyric sites have been around for a long time. Its obvious that people want them.
So why haven't the record companies provided a way for them to be seen? Why must they always resort to playing catchup?
I suppose people wouldn't want to pay even a small fee. I still think they are jumping on the bandwagon too late.

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I think there should be a boycott on ALL music industry companies, to let them know who has the power (the consumer) but as it is really hard to make something that large happen , i guess we are stuck getting attacked by the ones that want us to buy their products.

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two words:
What the hell?!

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Why does everyone seem so surprised? I saw this coming for a long time. Don't be surprised when the day comes, you won't be allowed to type names of songs to your buddy on AIM. Or you won't be able to talk on the phone with copyrighted material playing in the backround. Think im nuts, in 20 years come back and tell me if I'm nuts. Peace out.

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I agree w/ y'all. Illegal downloading is one thing, but this lyric thing is patently ridiculous.
It's tragic how many lost their lives to save the world from first the Fascists, then the Communists & now the Islamist extremists-- but sad to say, the Western world is doing a complete 360 degree about-turn towards their foes' ways. Under the guise of stamping out immoral behaviour, affronts against Christianity, drugs/narcos, money launderers, problem gamblers, terrorists, illegal downloaders, etc. the West is headed towards a combo Fascist Talibanism-- the only difference between that & what a Stalin or Bin Laden would impose is the 'kindler, gentler, & more civilized manner' it's applied up the masses's collective rear end.
Speaking of masses, we're in a real heap of touble precisely because of the mass sheep mentality nowadays: very few are speaking up for their rights--most polls taken yield majority approval for the slew of intrusive & onerous laws making their way into the books: whatever it takes to stamp out whatever perceived/potential damage/dangers is the excuse of the day.

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When will this stop, they are certainly biting the hand that feeds them as most young musicians starting out learn from other artist! I hope if young artist become good they sell their own music and not go to industry!

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This is the daftest thing I've read in some time.

I'm sure there's a lot of people who hear a song and don't know the artist or track. They look up the lyrics, and, *shock*, they buy the album.

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pretty soon every company will do the same thing..and it'll be illegal to say "all your base are belong to us"

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I'm confused Tab sites are just the way someone interperts the song. They are not the official tabs, thoes are much more complex and you buy at music stores. This is sad, next year they are going to start sueing people playing there music in there car too loud because they dont wany anyone else at a red light to hear the song for free... Apple or some company needs to oust the industry all together and put there own studios up and distribute the music straight from there to iTunes. I can see how producers are expensive and charge alot to turn singers like Ashley simpson into something that wont blow my speakers but they do not cost 20 Billion a year.

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If you cannot afford a lawyer, don't get a song stuck in your head!

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Maybe they should print their list of demands on each cd label and then check the sales numbers. This crap is just like door locks… it only deters the honest people. If someone really wants the lyrics, the sheet music, the illegal downloads, they are going to find a way.

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*sighs*

At this rate, you won't even be able to mention the name of your favorite band or favorite song without being faced with some lawsuit.

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Morons.