New Windows Live Movie Maker debuts, says good-bye to XP for good
By Tim Conneally | Published August 19, 2009, 5:11 PM
The Windows Live team announced this afternoon that Windows Live Movie Maker, the free video editing software component of Windows Live Essentials has come out of beta and is available for download.
Windows Live Movie Maker opened in beta last year, and has been designed to provide a quick and easy method of cutting video clips rather than a full editing suite.
"I recently used Windows Live Movie Maker to create a movie out of 50 photos, three video clips, and a music soundtrack in 30 seconds using the AutoMovie feature in Windows Live Movie Maker. I couldn't have done that in iMovie -- it doesn't have a feature for combining photos, videos and music in one automatic step," said Brian Hall of the Windows Live Team.
The latest version of the software includes support for high definition up to 1080p, more than 60 transitions, 18 pan and zoom options, and 20 visual effects to apply to photos as videos, far more than were included in the early beta builds. Files can be saved, burned to DVD or directly uploaded to YouTube.
In a blog post today, Brian Hall announced that the software will not support Windows XP: "Change isn't always easy, and I know there have been some growing pains as we've moved from Windows Movie Maker to Windows Live Movie Maker. I want to address one thing we think you might be concerned about -- OS support...In order to take advantage of the latest and greatest technologies available on the Windows platform, we optimized the new Windows Live Movie Maker for Windows Vista and Windows 7. As a result you get support for newer file formats like HD, a new graphics driver model which brings more reliable and stable support for high-end graphics, and a new engine on top of DirectX, which improves speed and enables even more advanced capabilities over time. If you're still using Windows XP, Windows Movie Maker 2.1 for Windows XP is still a great option."
Ugh, stupid pricks. A lot of people still use XP. This has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I was all excited to download Windows Live Movie Maker - because I can't stand Windows Movie Maker. Then I found out I can't run it just because I have XP and not Vista or Windows 7. The computer I'm running now wouldn't be able to support Vista or Windows 7. Seeing as though it's probably about 6 years old (maybe even older). I don't plan on buying a brand new computer just so I can accommodate the newest OS. Sorry if I don't have the money to just go out and spend a ton of it on new computers or OS' every couple of years. This is soooooooooooooo full of BS.
XP will never die, it's amazing - I prefer it over Vista any day! Just pissed that they didn't make it XP compatible. Gah, now I'm all angry.
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|Ok really, XP is still a very valid OS. In fact, it currently has about 67-70% (median of various market share company stats) of the market share, compared to about 23% for Vista. So to those who say this is the end of XP, that's a pitiful argument.
The percent of people who make movies is incredibly small, in fact. So WLMM isn't going to make a huge difference.
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|There's 100 million ppl using XP and how many of them are making movies? Probably as many as ppl posting comments here. Most ppl don't know XP form the hole in their buttocks. The end of XP just because of movie maker? I'll take an ounce of whatever your smokin'. BN has become sensationalism and propaganda to say the least.
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|ok i tryed this out its not professial or any thing like that i used it to produce a movie a time lapse of 4,289 pics of all around 40KB in size
it took about 30 secs to import all of the photos and then thumbnail every thing
after selecting all the photos and changing the time for slide for each pic to .05 that only took about 20 secs
and then saving to 1080P
it took 10 mins to make the file with a out put size of 205 megs all while using only around 800 megs in ram
i would not call this bad
at all
for "FREE" its really good
for really easy stuff this is great
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|I guess if you are forced to use Windows this makes sense. iMovie 09 is way more functional and easier to use than this turd. Nice for Microsoft to finally support HD. ROFL. What year is it?
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|"As a result you get support for newer file formats like HD"
HD is NOT, and I repeat NOT a file format!
A codec can support HD, which is the number of pixels it can encode.
HD = 1920*1080pixels
What are the newer formats actually? They probably come from .NET and it's dependencies.
Nice cut an paste job, you guys should proofread your quoted stuff and comment on the mistakes in your article's.
That's why people pay for newspapers anyway.
Because they should be worth it!
This magazine is sponsored by Microsoft!
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|The lack of support for XP is something people ought to start to get used to. XP is officially under its extended support phase from Microsoft now, so any new features may or may not be supported by it. It is finally the beginning of the end for XP.
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|Looks interesting... gonna give this a try!
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|non compatible with XP is not justified by technology, just business.
(award me for stating the obvious)
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|XP is old and dated, move on, don't care if you move to Linux or Mac either
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|yeah try and get the millions of business to switch out of XP by 2013. It's already been reported that many businesses are skipping vista altogether and are also not going to jump on 7 just yet. Consumer wise XP is getting dated but if you have older hardware not worth the upgrade why bother. MAC is still costly and the general user will get lost in Linux still. Plus many applications will still support XP looooong after MS stops supporting it.
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|Only lazy, slothful, horrible IT people are sticking with XP still. Any IT Dept. worth crap is looking into migrating to 7 by now if they're still on XP or have already migrated to Vista and don't need 7 for another few years. I can completely understand them skipping Vista because it requires considerably more power, but there's really no excuse for skipping 7 unless of course it's because of not being able to find drivers (I think that'll be RARE unless they're running Win 98 dated hardware).
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|artfuldodga, in fact i agree with you! i was just wiping the BS from MS's words.
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|Looking at Win 7 for Business is one thing... Budgeting for it is altogether different and not the fault of those lazy IT guys. And you think that Win 7 runs on the same machines as the older XP does? LOL
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|runs on my older machines, not machines from 1999 and before, but 2003+, runs fine
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|No, lazy, slothful, horrible IT people jump on the bandwagon right away. The smart ones wait, plan and test. Don't forget it costs money to upgrade, unless the company is willing budget it out, ain't gonna happen right away.
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|"Don't forget it costs money to upgrade, unless the company is willing budget it out, ain't gonna happen right away."
Maybe so, but with the economy still not fully recovered it's doubtfull it will happen quickly, if at all -- many companies are still in layoffs and that means no money for people, expansions, even IT. My guess is that XP has a slight chance of sticking around for longer than it should because Vista and probably even 7 need more in the hardware department than XP. And when you factor in the economy like I just said (sorry to repeat that in the space here, just stating the obvious) then it's probably won't happen immediately, IF AT ALL. Consumers, on the other hand, are a different story and there Windows 7 will probably find a home among the geek set but otherwise it's possible for it to be Vista all over again, sorry to say.
Again, blame the economy. Linux adoption in business will go up faster than Vista/7 because of cost as IT budgets right now can't handle hardware acq1uisitions necessary for Windows post-XP and likely won't be able to for a while, if ever.
I could be wrong, of course -- but it's not likely right now as far as I can tell. Like I said, I'm just stating the obvious. In fact, about the only chance Windows 7 has in business is if the Netbook compatibility works in as much a way as possible, but even then it's a tossup. My guess is that the economy may have soured the last possible chance the Softies had to stay relevant in business, and on top of that is data services in the cloud and Linux that have done them in where Windows is concerned... but primarilly the economy did it worse IMO. Sorry to say, but with hardware requirements post-XP like they are the Windows guys are simply killing thier product in the IT departments.
I'm still upgrading though, as I have my preorder in at Newegg from the first-orders upgrade special a month or so back. I just don't see businesses doing the same thing ever again because of the past economic slump. But again, I could be wrong -- yet I'm sorry to say that it doesn't seem likely. I'll say it one last time: just stating the obvious. That's all there is to it.
And my apologies for going on as long as I did, but these are very legitimate concerns I have on the subject that I'm sure a lot of you have. No, I'm not trying to start a flame war... or even a troll battle -- though I'm sure a few of you guys will try it anyway so feel freee to make what you want of it. I'm not holding a single thing against you even if I know what type you are. (I've seen too many of your types, and on just about anything, to be honest with you -- and yes, I'm pretty sure you know who you are so don't even question it.)
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|i've watched some demo videos of Windows Live Movie Maker, its decent, will make family sharing things so much easier
the automovie stuff is pretty slick for those who have zero clue lol
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|This doesn't work in XP? Oh good, I almost wasted my time trying to get the Windows Live installer modifier/uninstaller working. It fails before it even shows the first dialog, and only logs a nonsensical error in a log file buried deep in AppData.
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|Why not. The goal of Microsoft is to make money. If it means releasing products that entice people to use Vista and 7 so they can get people to spendy money, what's the big deal?
Why do you think Apple doesn't allow me to buy OS X from them and install it on Sony Laptop? Because they want people to buy their hardware from them so they make more money.
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|I have a feeling Apple is waiting until they can get out-of-the-box Windows API emulation that works with 99.9% of Windows apps. Then they'll let you install it over Windows on your generic non-Apple computer and import all your documents and settings seamlessly.
Of course there's also hardware driver support they'd have to take care of first, which is probably a bigger hurdle...
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|They will NEVER, EVER willingly port OSX for mainstream use on non-Apple branded systems. And there are many reasons. A couple of the big ones you've mentioned - drivers. Programming the OS for a wider array of hardware is something they'd have to spend millions on between major revisions. Right now they write code to run on a handful (literally) of hardware - hardware shared between all their Imacs and their one Server and several of their laptops. MS in comparison has to keep their OS' open enough to not only support hardware that ran their last OS, but even try to allow the OS before that one as well. It's a huge job.
Secondly, Apple enjoys complete profitability by being closed. They've created an "Experience" where you're sure that once you buy an Apple branded product, it just works. You have your iMac, your Ipod and Iphone, both of which are linked unapologetically to the Itunes Store and Time Machine which also is linked to the Itunes Store. If they ever make a gaming device, that too will be linked to the Itunes Store. They have a system, and there are currently no variables or foreign influences that can break that system. Opening up OSX would break that system. Once you buy Apple hardware, you've purchased the OS and from there you're a part of that world.
Right now, it's a It's a one-way street.
If Apple opened OSX for use on non-Apple hardware, you bet your butt that people would buy the OS and slap it on their $380 Dell Inspiron rather than that artfully made $1200 Imac. Apple would lose A LOT of money. Despite the fact that many Appleites claim hardware superiority, many of them I hypothesize, would choose a cheaper system if they had the choice. But choice is a funny thing - you take it away for long enough and people tunnel vision into loving what they have. I'm sure that many Mac users would love a desktop solution vs. the Imac, but there isn't one (unless they shell for the Mac Pro), so they LOVE their IMac. You provide a Mac Desktop for the same price as an IMac, and I bet that some of the same users buy it when given the choice.
On the other hand, no Windows user is going to buy an Apple branded machine to simply run Windows, as there are superior options which are cheaper or run at the same cost (superior in terms of power, features and looks I mean). Right now, "The Mac Experience" trumps whatever PCs and Windows have to offer. It's is like a chain, and you weaken and remove links with the idea of opening up OSX. It would fundamentally wound Apple on several levels.
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|Why runs Mac OS X on Intel processors?
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|A good way of forcing people to abandon XP, and upgrade to Win7 I guess...
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|Good?
You mean someone uses such crap? :P
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|Umm...or just continue to use Movie Maker 2.1. Seriously...this is FORCING you to upgrade?
Even if it were, don't you think it's about time you consider upgrading your 8-year-old operating system anyway?
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|ha! WLMM a reason to upgrade? lol
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