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PS3 Sales in Japan Fall 49 Percent

By BetaNews Staff, BetaNews

December 1, 2006, 11:06 AM

Sales of the PlayStation 3 in Japan fell by almost half in the first full week of availability, and low shipments are being blamed for the lackluster sales, say gaming company Enterbrain. The site had estimated that 88,400 consoles sold in the first two days of launch, but from November 13 to 18 only 43,378 sold. Sony will not comment on the report, but said it was continuously shipping new consoles.

Data for the US is not yet available, although it is likely that sales will follow a similar pattern. At issue is the Blu-ray disc drive within the console. Sony hasn't been able to procure the blue laser diodes needed, among a host of other manufacturing difficulties. The problems are also affecting game sales; PS3's highest-ranking title in Japan was Ridge Racer 7, coming in at #29.

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By blviper500

edited Dec 6, 2006 - 12:41 PM

Mark Gillespie, I can't figure someone like you out.. So far you have called me an Idiot, lyre, Naive and whatever else I don't remember. If you recall this all started because I told everybody about the experience I had with Sony. The problem was it was broke right out of the box and they wouldn't fix it. I don't care about the problems XBOX had on there launch or the problems Sony is having for that matter. Just provide customer service and take care of it. Don't be unethical and make excuses on why it's my fault it don't work it's clearly theirs No company is perfect their Will be defects, no problem, just step up and take care or your mess ups. I never expected Sony to launch all the console without a problem. I just expected them to stand up and correct there mistakes, They did not, They would rather do the unethical thing and slide through some loop hole. From what I get from you, you are young and probably haven't been though to much. I have been in this situation before, just a different company this time, but it's the same scenario all the time. The big powerhouse company stepping on the little guy, and you know why because they can. If it hasn't happened to you yet it will and I hope you remember all the trash you accused me of being. When all I am is a little guy being stepped on by a financial giant because they can. Why you would stick up for them is baffling they would step on you if given the chance they don't care about you or me. They care about money, and you should be outraged that your beloved Sony has screwed me. I have my own business and I live by one rule, spend a $1.00 today to make a customer happy, and they will pay you $2.00 tomorrow. My only guess you are so protective of them is they bought you your first house, Paid the medical bills of your first born, and bought you a car to drive. What has Sony done for you to win you ridiculous loyalty?

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By Hollywood__

edited Dec 5, 2006 - 1:23 AM

OK, OK. I know I'm being a Dave but I am tired of reading Blu_Ray propaganda links.

Here are some stories from news sources like.........oh I don't know, ABC News.

The Sony Blu_Ray debacle

"Because the early Sony HD displays won't play a Sony movie from a Sony player in high def, I expect massive complaints and demands for free upgrades or money back."

read it at

http://abcnews.go.com/Te...gy/ZDM/story?id=2699492

Another quote from a site which tested Blu-Ray against HD-DVD

"But Blu-ray's problems didn't end there. Occasional compression artifacts and brightness issues also led the site to crown HD DVD the winner. "In our first head-to-head comparison, we found the HD DVD to be superior," wrote Peter Bracke. "The unfortunate cropping of the Blu-ray image, coupled with more noticeable compression artifacts and an overall darker cast, can't compete with the more consistently pleasing presentation of the HD DVD."

It's just opinion though, right Dave?

The funny thing is, I am having the hardest time finding anything saying Blu-Ray's picture is superior, unless you wrote it.

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By blviper500

edited Dec 4, 2006 - 5:25 PM

Hey check this out that is exactly what mine did out of the box. "Paste that down below or type it in" and you will see what I'm talking about. There is some other great stuff on it.

www.unclegamer.com/ug-tv.../broken_ps3_disc_feeder/ - 20k

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By Mark Gillespie

posted Dec 5, 2006 - 4:25 AM

Your obviously naieve if you thought that Sony (or anyone) could deliver 100% defect free products. Of course there will be failures of PS3, of course people will video it, because they are annoyed.

The bottom line, is however, for every PS2 disc read error, or PS3 not loading discs, I can give you 10 times more posts about Xbox360 rings of death and overheating problems, and thats BEFORE you even take into account the massive Playstation installed userbase that Xbox does not have.

If you want to talk launch failues, don't forget the 360 was horrendous, and WII is not much better with bricked consoles being VERY common..

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By bobthegoat2001

posted Dec 6, 2006 - 2:43 PM

More crap coming out without any links to back up your theory.

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By plague201

posted Dec 5, 2006 - 12:54 PM

"you thought that Sony (or anyone) could deliver 100% defect free products"
Um thats not the impresion you were giving 6 months ago when you were ranting about SOny not rushing the PS3.

"I can give you 10 times more posts about Xbox360 rings of death and overheating problems"
Except unlike SOny, Microsoft takes care of its customers (whether purchased on ebay or not). I'm sure a lot of those people with problems are asses out because they got the PS3 on ebay.

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By plague201

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 11:28 PM

Wow, almost like 3 rings of death, except this is straight out of the box. Even worse than overheating...

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By DaveBG

edited Dec 4, 2006 - 12:43 PM

Hollywood__, whats up buddy.
Check out your favorite site!
They removed 20-30 Blu-ray media and players!
Now if that is fine with you too i will LOL big this time!!!
This site is full of crap!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

http://www.thedvdwars.com/AllHDDVDs.cfm

Wait, wait, wait!
What is this? :

Xbox 360 HD DVD Player
Sales rank: 100000

LOLOLOLOLOL

Hahahah:

"OPPO DV-970HD Up-Converting Universal DVD Player"
YEAH! Go for it Hollywood! Buy the OPPO DV-970HD HD DVD player. You will make my day!
AHHAHA!

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By Hollywood__

edited Dec 5, 2006 - 12:40 AM

I think DaveBG just popped a vein in his forehead judging by all the exclamation points in his post.

The counters have been reset for a lot of items at thedvdwars.com but DaveBG actually thinks the HD-DVD add on is at the 100000 sales ranking.

If he actually did his homework and checked, he would see it's at #70 sales rankings.

Poor kid wet his pants because they reset a bunch of counters on the site due to additions made to available Blu_Ray movies. The fact that you are checking it every day makes me laugh, you are the one who always says it's wrong. But as soon as there is an error of some kind, you are in here posting like a giddy school girl. The fact that you are in here trying to rub it in my face with that hyperactive, ridiculous post is hilarious.

All you have to do is go to Amazon yourself to check the sales rankings of any given item. It will take a day or so for all of the resets to download and calculate the day by day activities.

That post is classic though, I've never seen someone get so excited over something so unimportant.

You sir are a clown. You have huge issues with Blu-Ray, then again so does everyone who bought a BD player.

Nice try though, you just ended up looking dumber than usual.

Here are the actual sales ranking direct from Amazon for the top three players for each format. The numbers on thedvdwars didnt jive with the actual numbers on Amazon so I went and got them myself.

The funny part is thedvdwars showed a BD player way higher than it's actual rankings on Amazon, so you are right, the site is wrong, but not in your favor.

I don't know why you keep pushing me to post facts and make you look like a complete idiot, Dave.

Xbox 360 HD DVD Player - #70

Toshiba HD-A1 HD-DVD Player - #1,972

Toshiba HD-XA1 HD-DVD Player - #2,092

Samsung BD-P1000 Blu-Ray Disc Player - #4,281

Sony BDP-S1 Blu-ray Disc Player - #8,866

Philips BDP9000 Blu-Ray Disc Player - #32,014

www.thedvdwars.com
www.gamesystemwars.com
www.nexgenwars.com
www.thelookandsoundofperfect.com

*sigh*

Update: Just in cast Dave tries to delete or edit that post, I will put it below in it's entirety.

"Hollywood__, whats up buddy.
Check out your favorite site!
They removed 20-30 Blu-ray media and players!
Now if that is fine with you too i will LOL big this time!!!
This site is full of crap!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

http://www.thedvdwars.com/AllHDDVDs.cfm

Wait, wait, wait!
What is this? :

Xbox 360 HD DVD Player
Sales rank: 100000

LOLOLOLOLOL

Hahahah:

"OPPO DV-970HD Up-Converting Universal DVD Player"
YEAH! Go for it Hollywood! Buy the OPPO DV-970HD HD DVD player. You will make my day!
AHHAHA!"

Issues, man........issues.

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By DaveBG

edited Dec 5, 2006 - 1:47 AM

You are an IDIOT!
The site owners are excusing for lying and you are fine with that?
Why i should do any homework dork? What about the fooled people and the FUD and lies you spread?

"I realized, after looking/searching on Amazon, that my site was missing quite a few blu-ray titles. I made an update, and now the number of buyable blu-ray titles is very close to the number of buyable hd-dvd titles."

Well well well they missed "some" 50 titles?
ON no problem!

No one believes your site anymore and everyone know that you are a clown.

The errors on the site are still there and you are ignoring them! LOL

Everything you have posted is canceled now. Everything you say was based on a error! Good luck.
The whole HD DVD format is a huge ERROR!

There are still lots of missing stuff. The Blu-ray section was wiped out. The data is incorrect. When will that be fixed? I know when. When fools and trolls like you gets it!

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By bobthegoat2001

posted Dec 6, 2006 - 2:57 PM

WOW..... That's all I can say is WOW. There's a lot of crazies out there. I didn't know an addition to Sony (or any company for that matter) could be that bad. It's hard to tell though who's more addicted, Mark or Dave. Whenever I think one is worse, the other one comes and proves me wrong.

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By Hollywood__

posted Dec 5, 2006 - 1:25 PM

Yes, you are right DaveBG, I have no idea what I am talking about. Amazon is in on this too. I know everyone is out to get you and Blu_Ray.

Get over it and come back to me when BD is "blowing away" HD-DVD like you and Marky said it would.

You should also relax, those posts are going to give you a heart attack. All of the "yelling" you are doing is not good for your mental health. Take a deep breath, relax, and come up with some real arguments.

It sure looks like 99% percent of the people in here agree with my posts because they are based on something called facts. You keep posting the same crazy, unsubstantiated garbage.

I'm not the one who put HD-DVD way ahead in sales over Blu_ray, I'm just pointing out the fact that it's happening and getting worse for BD.

You cant seem to stop obsessing over www.thedvdwars.com and www.gamesystemwars.com let alone www.nexgenwars.com and www.thelookandsoundofperfect.com

But that is your problem, I'm not the one plugging HD-DVD vs Blu_ray fact sites by putting links in my posts.

As a matter of fact, I've never put a link to www.thedvdwars.com or www.gamesystemwars.com let alone www.nexgenwars.com or www.thelookandsoundofperfect.com in any of my posts.

*this may push him over the edge*

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By siryak

posted Dec 5, 2006 - 6:18 PM

"*this may push him over the edge*"

Lol I think you are right. Whenever Blue-Ray likely goes down I think we are gonna haft to get counseling set up for Dave to help him through the pain. Its ok Dave. It can be difficult to let go sometimes, but we will get you through this.

It is best for your health if you just stay away from the computer because Hollywood is going to rip you to shreads everytime you touch that keyboard lol. You want to know why? Because he's right.

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By plague201

posted Dec 5, 2006 - 12:57 PM

And what 50 titles are missing?

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By dwaterman

posted Dec 5, 2006 - 12:34 PM

The fact that the numbers on thedvdwars are messed up doesn't change the facts, nor does it discredit anything that Hollywood has said. You need to learn a bit about logic and then use some when you debate...

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By siryak

edited Dec 4, 2006 - 10:00 PM

Lol lets see if o Davey replys to that one!!! ROFL!!!

But I do truly feel sorry for Mark and Dave because they are both obviously in very harsh denial.

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By Hollywood__

posted Dec 5, 2006 - 12:34 AM

I couldn't help it, I was just going to ignore that ridiculous post all together.

Being the person that I am and the fact that "tone it down" doesn't exist in my vocabulary, I just had to flame that inferior ape.

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By siryak

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 7:25 PM

*sigh* Dave is like trying to break a donkey. Just leave him be and let him have his Blue-Ray player. He can have a nice rare antique whenever HD-DVD blows it off the shelfs.

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By plague201

edited Dec 4, 2006 - 1:00 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Xb...e=UTF8&s=videogames

rank 73

I can see omimsions of players, but I don see where you get media, being that there are 150 blu-ray titles listed.

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By DaveBG

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 1:10 PM

The blank media. Lots of blank media is gone.
The SONY player is gone, the Phillips is gone, Panasonic is gone... many!

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By plague201

edited Dec 4, 2006 - 1:46 PM

Your complaing about blank media? I was unaware that they contribute to total number of movies being sold...

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By Hollywood__

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 11:54 AM

Mark,

I have to ask. Are you the same Mark posting comments over on thedvdwars about how one sided it looks for HD-DVD?

If that is you, I have never seen such desperation from a Sony employee.

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By DaveBG

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 10:46 AM

Blu-ray is approaching 200GB while hd dvd is ~30GB.
http://www.tdk-europe.com/en/bluray/diezukunft.php

Fun!

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By siryak

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 7:21 PM

Thats ok the movies still look the same no matter how much space you get.

Fun!

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By mshulman

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 11:57 AM

Lets not put the horse before the cart. They are at 100 and 200 is a possibility in the future.

Either way - I think this is awesome for data storage. I still don't think it will necessarily matter in movie watching at home.

And in the pc realm, there are other things not so far down the road that will likely surpass this anyway.

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By plague201

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 11:29 AM

Thats very good news for the PC realm.

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By The Man

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 11:38 AM

you don't think file size will effect movie quality?
higher res. = larger files

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By Mumoto

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 6:40 PM

High res + bad broadcast = crap quality
High res + bad encode = crap quality

It doesn't really matter what the size is, the encoding process and the broadcast quality do.

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By plague201

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 12:06 PM

I have to see it to believe it. Because so far everything looks great on 30 gigs. And 25 gigs for the blu-ray side (50 gig disks is 25 gigs of extras, not movie it self.)

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By terminalx

edited Dec 3, 2006 - 11:58 PM

Actually, there is a video of a guy who just got a ps3 and it failed in 3 hrs...and do you need to be reminded quality is not sony's strongpoint...shall we look at ps2 and the famous disk read errors or how about ps1's fix by flipping it over to get it to work longer because of the cheap hardware which was consequently used in the ps2.

What makes you think the ps3 is going to be perfect especially since it is using brand new tech?

The xbox 360 failure rate was 3% not 15% (I could be wrong) but then again xbox admitted their mistakes and didnt try charging someone.

Even if they bought it elsewhere even though it was never opened and brand new.

I think the ps3 has the potential to be great (but it has been stated it will take years before the potential of the cell processor will be realized, by then everyone could have moved on and Sony sealed its fate)

The problem is its price, programming for it is a b****, and customer support for Sony is a joke.

I think it is cool that you can switch out the hd (which is a nice feature) but as of now there is not many games that are new/ exclusive.

They are built off another console or sequels, but its still early yet only time will tell. I don't know anyone who is buying a blu ray player because its too expensive and the quality when compared to hd-dvd is not mind blowing or overall that impressive especially when compared in price.

just for fun...I found this amusing

http://www.smashmyps3.com/

a fair review and mention of the xbox360

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/747/747413p1.html

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By Mark Gillespie

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 10:14 AM

"Actually, there is a video of a guy who just got a ps3 and it failed in 3 hrs...and do you need to be reminded quality is not sony's strongpoint...shall we look at ps2 and the famous disk read errors or how about ps1's fix by flipping it over to get it to work longer because of the cheap hardware which was consequently used in the ps2."

These are all small scale problems, let's not forget Playstation outsold the original XBox by a factor of 20 times. Of course there will be failures. There are also MANY more that have never failed. posts about "Disc Read Errors" are from desperate xbox fanboys. If you want to talk about failures, lets talk about "The Red Ring of Death". many more of these as a percentage. 15% of all units...

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By siryak

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 5:18 PM

How do you know 15% of units got this "Red Ring of Death"? Do you have a "credible" source? Somehow I seriously doubt you do. There you go assumeing again. When in reality you have no idea what percentage it is.

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By plague201

edited Dec 4, 2006 - 11:35 AM

"Playstation outsold the original XBox by a factor of 20 times"
Your conviniently forgeting that PS2 came out a year before xbox. Now its the other way around.

"The Red Ring of Death"
I'll be honest, I got the rings of death also. But guess what, unlike $ony who is currently not covering warranty on items bought on ebay. Microsft took care of me in a speedy fasion, and I got a new 360 in 1.5 weeks.

Guess what. My system was even firmware hacked. With the warranty seal more than obviously broken, and they STILL replaced it because they fully knew that the issue wasnt the firmware hack.

To me thats service you cant deny. Miscrosoft takes care of its customers, and I think thats saying a lot.

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By terminalx

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 11:32 AM

Most of the red ring of death comes from a modded box as well...

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By plague201

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 11:38 AM

No, from what I researched online at the time mine went out. The only real reason I found was that it happened when running on 1080 resolution, or HD. I guess since the 360 processes more at that high resolution it went buggy. There were some hot airgun tricks to try to fix it, I never tried it though because microsoft accepted and returned me a new box.

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By Hollywood__

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 10:13 AM

DaveBG,

You are a self admitted non Blu-Ray owner. That means you have to shut up and actually put your money (you don't have) where your huge mouth is and back the format you think is so great.

You are the type of person who complains about George Bush but never took the time to vote. Therefore you don't get to whine about one format or the other.

I am probably the only person in here who owns a BD "player" and hates the format, the complany who's pushing it and everything Blu_Ray is about.

I know HD-DVD is better, I've seen them side by side at CEDIA, the joke of the event was the Blu-Ray display and the non-working PS3 at the Sony booth.

Until then, I hadn't seen either format in person so I had no idea what the differences were. Like everyone says in here, Blu-Ray tends to look very grainy with a lot of artifacts.

HD-DVD blew me away. The people at the Toshiba booth took us around and actually explained the differences, they also gave us a Toshiba HD-DVD demo disc, which they don't normally give out.

As soon as we mentioned HD-DVD at the Sony booth, they turned into a couple of Mark and Dave's. They got all defensive and tried to make us feel stupid for even asking about it.

We commented on the grainyness of the picture, they blamed it on the player and said it would get better. The usual from Soon.....Only Not Yet. Although the banners all over thier display said "Superior to HD-DVD". It was a complete joke.

This is why I am such a huge fan of HD-DVD, the picture IS better, the movies are selling 10 to 1 over BD. The best part is, people who actually care about picture and sound are telling people who don't know about the new formats that BD is a joke.

People usually listen to other people who know more than they do about electronics. My own brother-in-law asked about Blu_Ray at the dinner table at Thanksgiving because he was at Best Buy, and he saw a movie he liked in the BD / HD-DVD section.

When he asked the salesman, the blue shirts told him that HD-DVD simply isn't selling and to invest in a BD player. He suspected the guy was full of crap and asked me during dinner, with 20 people at the table.

When I started to explain the differences and why HD-DVD was better, and also the sales numbers are exactly the opposite what the idiot at Best Buy said because they get a spiff for every BD player sold. It seemed like everybody was listening to what I had to say.

He said he would go back to the store to talk to the manager about why the salesman didn't recommend the cheaper player with better picture and more titles.

So please go buy a BD player and then you can say anything you want. You are the worst kind of fanboy, most of them actually OWN the equipment they love so much.

In the meantime, check these sites out Dave

www.thedvdwars.com
www.gamesystemwars.com
www.nexgenwars.com

Let me know what you think of factual sales sites and not BD propaganda and promo.

Maybe Santa will bring you a BD player for Christmas, it's not like they are hard to find. There are plenty open box returns around here.

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By DaveBG

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 2:36 AM

You are a clown and everyone knows it now!

Here:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/

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By Hollywood__

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 11:17 AM

That's great, a link to box office gross reports.

Yes, I'm a clown. But I'm right, and you know it.

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By Sexbarril

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 8:14 AM

Puting out alot of lambs movies doesnt matter...

Id rather own 10 good movies worth watching...than 1000 which are a waste of tme.

Basically im aying the site you posted doesnt mean anything other than some companies release more movies.

Next time post a link worthy of a click, and that will help, not hinder, ur argument.

Latz, SB

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By DaveBG

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 8:51 AM

Noob, this shows the market share which means that hd dvd is doomed because its support is way behind the Blu-ray support (not counting that it has less as names)!

I am showing actual data while hollywood -> crappy fanboy sites which does not represent the real world situation...

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By Hollywood__

posted Dec 5, 2006 - 12:50 AM

Since you and Mark are in the spirit of posting quotes, I though I would do the same.

"this shows the market share which means that hd dvd is doomed"

Your opinion, again. Wrong, as usual. You need to post some real numbers about Blu_Ray outselling HD-DVD dude. Nothing you have ever posted has backed up your delusional comments.

The desperation is getting pretty bad, you can see it in your latest posts. Your monosyllabic ramblings contain the word "doomed", which is hilarious.

I should thank you for entertaining me. You make this forum fun to come and read.

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By dwaterman

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 2:36 PM

If HD DVD continues to outsell Blu-ray those studios will begin to support it. This is about making money... they will most assuredly go where the money is.

Oh, before I forget... the link you posted does nothing to prove your point... as usual.

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By plague201

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 11:45 AM

"hd dvd is doomed "

Lol, then show sales numbers of both formats.

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By Zygi

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 8:22 PM

Both will look the same, as both support H.264 also known as MPEG4 part 10 or MPEG4 AVC1 codec, its only matter of equipment and space on disc (BR have some lead here). They also support MPEG2 so it could be possible you've seen MPEG2 on BR and H.264 on HD-DVD... Later there will be realy no difference as all movies will be in newer codec, maybe if they use spare space on BR they can get better quality then HD-DVD, but i doubt as H264 is already quite space efficient with high resolutions (comparing with MPEG2).

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By mshulman

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 10:42 AM

"When he asked the salesman, the blue shirts told him that HD-DVD simply isn't selling and to invest in a BD player. He suspected the guy was full of crap and asked me during dinner, with 20 people at the table."

The salesguy probably was correct. In their stores, HD-DVD is probably selling slow due to their ridiculous prices. I'll never buy an HD-DVD from them again. Its amazon.com all the way.

But, where he was wrong is that HD-DVD IS selling - just maybe not in stores that like to rip off their customers.

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By Hollywood__

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 11:00 AM

Dont' buy from Amazon. The sales rankings will go up for HD-DVD and you will be able to see the facts at www.thedvdwars.com then Mark/Dave will say it's a conspiracy that goes up to the highest levels of our government.

Dave knows President Bush is purposely trying to bury BD because his daughters boyfreind's fathers uncles nephew has a huge block of Toshiba stock. But's it's all going to change now that the democrats run the house.

"It's all lies......those sales facts on Amazon, that you can see at www.thedvdwars.com " ...he'll say.

www.nexgenwars.com and www.gamesystemwars.com are wrong too, it's ALL LIES.

I'm only speculating, but I think Dave would say something like that, and include those links too.

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By mshulman

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 10:20 PM

Probably..

Maybe he'd add that Amazon.com is limiting only 50 sales of bluray discs per day.

I can definetely understand how people can be skeptical of www.thedvdwars.com and the results shown, but for it to not be somewhat realistic, we'd have to assume that bluray owners are less aware of amazon than HD-DVD owners.

I guess if thats the case, then HD-DVD owners are just a smarter bunch ;)

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By patrickv

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 7:35 AM

hollywood is right..whats with blu ray anyways...f**k..gives us the games please !!..honestly am not a ps3 fan ima 360 addict and i hope that ps3 screws up bad its release..i really hate sony !!

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By kashin

edited Dec 3, 2006 - 12:57 AM

"PS3's highest-ranking title in Japan was Ridge Racer 7, coming in at #29." That deserves a gigantic LOL! Beware Microsoft and Xbox fans, here comes Sony with their lackluster sales and hardware shortages. You're all doomed!

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By plague201

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 4:49 PM

Point taken, I cant wait for GT5 in 2008!!

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By TomeOne

edited Dec 3, 2006 - 12:01 AM

Cheerleading for a video format - whatever it may be - is a waste of time. I mean, what reward does one get from helping huge corporations sell their silly products?

Unless you're working for one of them, that is.

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By Hollywood__

edited Dec 2, 2006 - 9:12 PM

I can't say I've been blown away by the PS3, there are not a lot of good exclusives for this system and I expected a lot more.

The fact that sales are down is directly due the shortage of consoles. Sony is screwing up so badly by hoarding all of the blue laser diodes for the PS3. No one cares about the Blu-Ray "feature" of the PS3. I sure don't.

Here's the usual propaganda for the uninformed potential Blu_Ray customers so they know the format is losing the war.

www.thedvdwars.com
www.gamesystemwars.com
www.nexgenwars.com

It also looks like plague201 and I converted an undecided to HD-DVD simply by pointing out the BD fanboys ridiculous posts.

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By Joey Deacon

posted Dec 2, 2006 - 9:59 PM

http://www.google.com/trends?q=blu%20ray%2C+hd-dvd

It shows HD-DVD searchs ahead of Blu-Ray only in San Francisco and Miami, where all the gays hang out... LOL... Perhaps HD-DVD owners buy lots of gay porn...

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By mshulman

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 10:44 AM

Searches don't mean a thing. I've probably searched more on bluray than HD-DVD just to find out a bit more about it and see if I could find anything that would make me feel differently about it.

So far.. I haven't found a thing.

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By Hollywood__

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 9:44 AM

I wasn't talking about searches, it's all about sales. The numbers are about the same everywhere in the US.

Any retailer who sells both formats will tell you Blu_Ray is simply not selling. HD-DVD is doing much better.

And for the record, I'm NOT an HD-DVD cheerleader! It's just every Sunday a few of us get together and put little skirts on and dance around with these fuzzballs to promote HD-DVD. That, by definition is NOT a cheerleader.

Oh wait, yes it is.

www.thedvdwars.com
www.gamesystemwars.com
www.nexgenwars.com

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By terminalx

posted Dec 2, 2006 - 7:05 PM

for ps3 first year of upcoming games not very much to be impressed with...a ton of sequels (which isnt bad) but nothing really stands out until june -july so at this time ps3 seems a waste...I think overall (so long as sony doesn't go broke from it) the ps3 will move ahead but its going to take time to unlock the full potential and my understanding is the ps3 is no picnic to program

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By terminalx

edited Dec 2, 2006 - 6:56 PM

another article about the death of GT-HD...basically the difference is (well now at least) is gt-hd is only available in japan at this time with no word on a nationwide release and its basically a preview of what gt5 will be

http://www.gamespot.com/...5/news.html?sid=6162566

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By Desides

posted Dec 2, 2006 - 1:46 PM

Cute headline, Betanews. Shouldn't it be "New PS3 Shipments Sell Through?"

Ahh, bias.

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By wincement

posted Dec 2, 2006 - 3:50 PM

Even I noticed that, and I pretty much hate Sony.

What's up with the misleading headlines, guys?

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By womfalcs7

posted Dec 2, 2006 - 10:47 AM

What do you expect? Most of them were sold out.

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By bobthegoat2001

edited Dec 2, 2006 - 1:09 AM

Yay;)

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By totalconsole

edited Dec 2, 2006 - 12:58 AM

The sales drop is deceptive. As a retailer and a distributor, here is what it looks like.

1. PS3: SYSTEM Sold out at normal price (not enough systems to justify accessories sell out)
2. Wii: SYSTEM+ACCESSORIES Sold out at normal price
3. XBOX 360: Plenty of stock available. People who want PS3 or Wii might buy a 360 system only because their preferred choice is sold out and will get whatever is available. All sorts of Accessories sales is increased now because there is a large installed base. Customize your xbox 360 with CASE+CONTROLLER mods :)

Real battle will be in mid-late 2007 when the supply issue is solved. A year ago, XBOX 360 system availability was similar to PS3. Came march+April 2006 and systems started being available. So in the meantime, enjoy what you have.

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By The MAZZTer

posted Dec 2, 2006 - 6:00 PM

I was surprised I couldn't find Wii accessories ANYWHERE, much less a system. I still need to get one.

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By The-One

edited Dec 1, 2006 - 9:48 PM

Wow, HD DVD is in its second generation, and Sony can't even produce a single BD player .. real funny. I guess BD is slow to the market because Sony is holding all the components for PS3s that seem to be unavailable.

For anyone to suggest a 49% drop is not bad, you know nothing at all, and you are fanboys!

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By DaveBG

posted Dec 2, 2006 - 8:47 AM

Go ahead put your money on the table. Get an hd dvd player, no get several hd dvd players!

In this world people are learning things and then they have exams. When they fail the exam they do the lesson again.

I recommend all (so desperate) hd dvd fanboys to invest their money in hd dvd! Why are you trying to make other people like hd dvd too?
Are you afraid of something???

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By siryak

posted Dec 2, 2006 - 10:05 PM

"I recommend all (so desperate) hd dvd fanboys to invest their money in hd dvd! Why are you trying to make other people like hd dvd too?
Are you afraid of something???"

Why do you and Mark try to make people like Sony so much? Are you afraid of something?

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By DaveBG

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 7:58 AM

I am TDK fanboy! TDK is Blu-ray supporter!

I am Phillips supporter.
I am Samsung supporter.
I am Panasonic supporter.
I am Pioneer supporter.
I am LG supporter.
I am 20th Century Fox supporter.
I am ... choose any one!!!

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By bobthegoat2001

posted Dec 6, 2006 - 3:09 PM

"I am TDK fanboy! TDK is Blu-ray supporter!"

Only because it supports Blu-Ray. You wouldn't be a TDK fanboy if it supported HD-DVD instead.

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By Hollywood__

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 9:45 AM

All junk.

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By Silentmaster101

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 8:27 AM

hey hey LG made some nice crt monitors back in the late 90's

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By plague201

posted Dec 2, 2006 - 2:37 PM

I bought HD-DVD player. I buy movies, unlike you and MArky who I highly doubt have blu-ray players.

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By Mark Gillespie

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 5:08 AM

Your correct, I don't have a Blu-Ray player, nor do I have a HD-DVD player, the reasons listed below.

1/ Dedicated Blu-Ray players are still to too expensive.

2/ Dedicated HD-DVD players whilst cheaper are trash, take 3 minutes to boot up, and look ugly as sin.

3/ Xbox360 and HD-DVD is too expensive, and noisy, and looks ugly, bolted on.

4/I don't want to invest in a format that has no real industry backing, like HD-DVD.

PS3 Blu-Ray is what I am waiting for, awesome looking movies when using VC1, enough space for uncompressed audio via HDMI 1.3, 50GB support, whisper silent... Unfortunatly, I have to wait till March, but no big deal, My 4yr old PS2 is still fine.

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By Hollywood__

posted Dec 5, 2006 - 1:29 PM

You would buy an inferior product based on outside appearance?

How shallow.

I would expect as much from you, that pretty much explains it all.

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By plague201

edited Dec 3, 2006 - 5:02 PM

"1/ Dedicated Blu-Ray players are still to too expensive."
And will remain so, HD-DVD players will always be inexpecive compared to blu-ray

"2/ Dedicated HD-DVD players whilst cheaper are trash, take 3 minutes to boot up, and look ugly as sin."
Way off, I know the first players had 45 sec max load times.

"3/ Xbox360 and HD-DVD is too expensive, and noisy, and looks ugly, bolted on."
At $200 I can afford HD-DVD to lose, unlike the base PS3 model for $500. No noise here, dont know where you get that information being that you DONT own a 360.

"4/I don't want to invest in a format that has no real industry backing, like HD-DVD."
SO then why are there more HD-DVD titles than there are blu-ray?

"enough space for uncompressed audio via HDMI 1.3"
Havent you heard? Sony is ripping off HD-DVD and starting to use True-HD sound.

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By mshulman

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 10:49 AM

"3/ Xbox360 and HD-DVD is too expensive, and noisy, and looks ugly, bolted on."

Too expensive? No. You are just using that as an excuse - proof - you will be getting PS3.

Noisy? Yes.. a little. But the HD-DVD player is actually quieter than playing off the internal DVD. I've also heard newer 360's are quieter. Never bothered me though.

Ugly? Personal opinion. I think mine looks just fine sitting next to my 360.

And in regards to industry backing - You certainly have a valid point there - bluray has more backing right now, but we'll see how long that holds up.

Have fun waiting. Many of us are enjoying all HD has to offer TODAY.

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By The-One

posted Dec 2, 2006 - 11:41 AM

Your right, my post did sound pro HD-DVD. Truth is, I don't own either, and don't plan on either any time soon (I have an HD recorder and verizon fios, so I get all my HD movies from the pay channels).

What I should have said was that the "slam-dunk" for BD is not that at all. Its the BD people that have pee'd me off, since you all think there isn't even competition. Plus I do hate Sony.

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By Hollywood__

edited Dec 2, 2006 - 10:57 AM

Dave,

Is it possible for you so say one good thing about HD-DVD? Like the picture quality is better.

I know you know this because you have made post with excuses for why the BD is so grainy. First is was the player, then the encoding, then the player, then a firmware update, then the software, then the player.

Give it up, the public has made it's choice. Amazon is SOLD OUT of Superman Returns on HD-DVD. That must tell you something.

www.thedvdwars.com
www.gamesystemwars.com
www.thelookandsoundofperfect.com
www.nexgenwars.com

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By wincement

edited Dec 2, 2006 - 5:29 PM

Hollywood__ : HD-DVD
::
(Mark Gillespie : Sony) x 2

****EDIT****
Nevermind. I just read some of Mark's posts below. I take it all back. In spades.

You look pretty darn sensible now. Incredible.

Sheesh... fanboys are so annoying.

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By DaveBG

posted Dec 2, 2006 - 12:05 PM

"Like the picture quality is better."

You mean WAS better.
Current Blu-ray player are better than the Toshiba player and deliver better quality and you know that but you spread fun...

The best HD player is Panasonic now, which is a Blu-ray player

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By plague201

edited Dec 2, 2006 - 2:40 PM

My ass, "was better" I just went to bestbuy last week and saw some new music video concert, grainy as hell. I wouldve gone the blu-ray route if I actually thought a grainy picture was worth spending $500 more dollars.

"Current Blu-ray player are better than the Toshiba player"... Um, so wheres your PROOF? Or is this simply fanboy speculation again?

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By DaveBG

posted Dec 2, 2006 - 4:07 PM

Bla bla bla, and where is your PROOF that it is not FUDster???

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By plague201

edited Dec 2, 2006 - 7:02 PM

Lets try this again. It appears your pride and joy doesnt even do its job right...

http://loot-ninja.com/2006/11/19/ps3-hd-scaling-issues-other-annoyances/

AS for the concert blu-ray I saw , I found it
http://bluray.highdefdig...com/u2rattleandhum.html
REad about the grain and shut it.

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By Mark Gillespie

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 9:55 AM

"AS for the concert blu-ray I saw , I found it
http://bluray.highdefdig...com/u2rattleandhum.html
REad about the grain and shut it. "

You are REALLY unbelivable, Rattle and hum is actually WORSE on HD-DVD. Go cry...

Excerpt from the article:

"I am not sure what my expectations were, but I actually think 'Rattle and Hum' looks narrowly better on Blu-ray. But first I'll get my complaints out of the way that apply to both formats. 'Rattle and Hum' is a severely grainy, messy film, and the source material suffers unnecessarily from age and neglect. Dirt is frequent, as are blemishes, and even the vivid lighting of the color portions of the film look fuzzy and smeared. Add to that some pixelization, edge enhancement and inconsistent contrast and sharpness, and you have an image that hardly impresses, regardless of format.

Detail is also predictably wanting on both the Blu-ray and the HD DVD,
"

Seems it's a bad transfer, or the original source material is bad, either way it's worse on HD-DVD than Blu-Ray. LOL...

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By plague201

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 5:04 PM

Dont you think that since blu-ray had more time on it, and since blu-ray is king, that they wouldve fixed it?

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By Mark Gillespie

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 10:18 AM

Your ignorance is unbelivable, If the information is not in the SOURCE material, then you can not add it.

I suppose you also believe DVD upscaling looks better...

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By plague201

posted Dec 4, 2006 - 11:49 AM

I guess the real question is why is Best buy still using grainy blu-ray material for their displays. Arent they trying to sell the product?

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By plague201

posted Dec 2, 2006 - 6:09 PM

I thought we were talking sales numbers? Those sites are just promoting bluray. Where are the numbers?

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By DaveBG

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 4:32 AM

I can make a better sites to show that Blu-ray wins. These are too lame.
Also @ tvdwars all i see is that hd dvd is going down where Blu-ray is rising in sales these days. Its a matter of time to pass by hd dvd...

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By plague201

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 5:05 PM

"I can make a better sites to show that Blu-ray wins."

Well let us know when you accomplish this.

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By Hollywood__

posted Dec 5, 2006 - 1:31 PM

plague,

I think he's been toiling on it night and day.

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By siryak

posted Dec 2, 2006 - 10:14 PM

"I thought we were talking sales numbers? Those sites are just promoting bluray. Where are the numbers?"

No you can't post those. They do not make BD look like the god of all formats!!! Quickly edit your post and delete the links before somebody sees them!!!! /sarcasm off

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By mufdvr3669

posted Dec 2, 2006 - 11:12 AM

"Give it up, the public has made it's choice. Amazon is SOLD OUT of Superman Returns on HD-DVD. That must tell you something."

It doesn't tell you anything. I am completely sold out of my magic pet rocks. That must mean they are the best things ever.

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By Mark Gillespie

posted Dec 3, 2006 - 9:42 AM

That they only did a limited run of HD-DVD, as it's a dying format?

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