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Pro-democracy Journalist Sentenced in China

By Scott M. Fulton, III, BetaNews

October 26, 2006, 6:14 PM

Freelance journalist Li Jianping, who made his pro-democracy viewpoints known to the world from his Internet-based post inside China, was sentenced today in a court in Shandong province to a three-year prison term for "incitement to subvert state power."

As a participant in the 1989 demonstrations at Tiananmen Square -- an event which much of the world has forgotten in the wake of China's economic expansion -- Li became the unfortunate subject of a government campaign to quash dissident opinion.

The timing of Li's sentencing was suspect, as the International Freedom of Expression Exchange (IFEX) pointed out today. Li's trial began and ended last April, though under Chinese law, the court should have about 45 days to make a decision. Instead, it waited until the very day of a state visit by French President Jacques Chirac.

The group Reporters Without Borders, which has also campaigned actively in the past for the release of journalists held hostage in Iraq, stated, "This is a slap in the face for French diplomacy, which claims to be engaged in a 'constructive' dialogue on human rights, despite the lack of concrete results."

According to reports, the objection from the Chinese government does not seem to be that Li made reports to people within his own country, but instead that his pro-democracy views were accessible via the Internet, outside China's borders.

Meanwhile, just a few days earlier, Yang Xiaoqing, another Chinese reporter arrested last January after he alleged in a Chinese business publication that a state-owned enterprise had been corrupted, was convicted on a similar count as Li, but sentenced to time served and released. "Guilty but free," wrote Reporters Without Borders. "This decision is a half-measure that fails to cover up the fact that he was imprisoned for no reason."

According to IFEX, Li is the eighth Chinese Internet correspondent to receive a prison sentence this year.

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By PostDeals

posted Oct 29, 2006 - 12:01 AM

We are keeping the Chinese Communist in power, if we put pressure on them and tell them we won't accept your products if you don't let Democracy flurish I bet you that will get their attention.

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By wincement

posted Oct 29, 2006 - 1:53 AM

That is true. The U.S. is one of their biggest (if not the biggest) importers.

I'm not sure we could force them to change their governmental system that way, but we could definitely hurt them...

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By Black-Wolf

posted Oct 27, 2006 - 1:04 PM

Animals are animals, they don't need rights ok?

You think way too much.

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By wincement

posted Oct 28, 2006 - 4:12 PM

Amazing logic. It's so simple. Man... a whole new world has been opened up to me. Define something as itself and it doesn't need rights.

People are people. They don't need rights ok?

Wow. That was so easy. Cool.

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By Darkman22

posted Oct 28, 2006 - 2:26 PM

Black-wolf, those same shamefull statements have been made throughout history in an effort to justify shamefull and disgusting deeds.
Rights, freedom, they are words, but the things they stand for have always existed, before there was language, before there were humans. Hopefully, the internet can now give the Earth and ALL of her inhabitants a voice, so deeds that some people want to go unnoticed and hidden, can be dragged out, and forced into the full glare of the public spotlight.
No one owns the earth, god help us if that ever happens.

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By morriscox

posted Oct 27, 2006 - 8:37 PM

Your statement is an irony, coming from you.

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By Darkman22

posted Oct 27, 2006 - 5:38 AM

China is a ticking economic time bomb. The government there are well aware that sooner or later the country is going to have a very huge impact on the worlds economy, orders of magnitude much greater than they do now. They want to be in full control of this sleeping giant, and so we see the behaviour that we find in the west so disgusting. Very poor human rights, poor civil liberties, with extreme censorship and public executions. Non existant animal rights with treatment amounting to torture and practices such as skinning alive being allowed, (and yes the disgusting fur trade does have a lot to answer for). God help us when the sleeping giant wakes.

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By Joe Dirt

posted Oct 26, 2006 - 9:40 PM

China is run by a bunch of jackasses.

I hate China and it's retarded that this guy is going to prison for 3 years.

The government in China needs overturned real bad.

Damn I'm glad I live in the USA where I can say that I think the president sucks and write about how badly he sucks without getting "in trouble".

The governments (and some of the citizens) of China, North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Chad, Afghanistan, and many other countries need their butts kicked. What a bunch of buttholes.

Oh yeah, and what does this story have to do with Beta software or technology news? Nothing!

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By zridling

posted Oct 28, 2006 - 2:47 AM

Joe, were you not paying attention when Bush suspended Habeas Corpus (the 800-year old right to challenge your arrest) by signing the Military Commissions Act of 2006 last week? You could be arrested in America, detained to a secret and/or foreign location, without access to counsel, a judge, a trial, or relief from torture. Nor may you invoke the Geneva Convention for aid.

America died on 9-11. Bush Co. killed it right dead. Don't believe me; ask Jose Padilla.

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By foxfyre

posted Oct 27, 2006 - 12:51 AM

what does this story have to do with Beta software or technology news?

I think that you will find that they were convicted based upon their use of the Internet and electronic communication.

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By bugmenot

posted Oct 26, 2006 - 10:14 PM

I think the US government suck, and Bush needs to go badly. Thanks to Bush "Dollar Appreciation" policy, we are seeing dollar worth less and less against the rest of the world. Thanks to Bush for "Bring Freedom to Iraq", that the Iraqi still haven't have a government put in place after 3+ years claim victory. Thanks to Bush for removing the Estate Tax, so the rich can get richer and stay rich forever. Thanks to Bush for making the US the biggest debt nation in the World. Should I need to say more?

At least, in China, it is the wealthiest nation in the world. So I don't think the government suck as much as US.

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By ThuanTrinh

edited Oct 27, 2006 - 12:48 PM

huh? US government sucks and China doesnt ? Somebody is in some serious denial. Im a chinese immigrant who is not serving in Mosul, Iraq as an Army infantryman. Iraq does have its own government. The iraqi police and iraqi army are doing more than our infantry units. Little kids love us when we patrol on the streets. Yea thank you president bush for bringing freedom to iraq. I helped liberated a country, how many people can say that? Now try criticizing china in their own backyard and see what will happen to you. Then you decide which government is better heh.

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By Grazer

posted Oct 27, 2006 - 2:28 PM

You don't have to be born a citizen to join the military? I guess you learn something new everyday.

You paint a pretty rosy picture of Iraq's current state. The way you are talking, we should be able to just call everybody back home. They have their own government and they are "liberated". Isn't that "mission accomplished"?

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By wincement

posted Oct 28, 2006 - 4:02 PM

As I understand it, the reason we are still there is to support the local police and help protect them from the constant terrorist attacks from their own people.

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By Second Shadow

posted Oct 28, 2006 - 1:51 AM

That's PRECISELY the catch there, man ... American citizenship is the carrot for foreign residents to join the military.
FYI: http://news.yahoo.com/s/...immigration_military_dc

A few excerpts:
"The U.S. military has provided legal immigrants a fast track to citizenship, and they are taking advantage of it in record numbers, even if it means facing the risk of death or injury in Iraq or Afghanistan."
"But the opportunity may come at the risk of life and limb in battle.
A total of 75 immigrant soldiers have become citizens posthumously during the U.S.-led military campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq"

It DOES feel like the US is indeed offshoring death and mutilation, doesn't it?

"Give me your tired, your poor" ... and I'll sure send them to get killed far, far away from here ...

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By ThuanTrinh

posted Oct 28, 2006 - 12:34 AM

Unfortunately the iraqi military is way too weak to have total control over the whole country. In Mosul, their security forces do a lot of work but when the yget overrun then would call us for help. Im just letting people know Iraq is not as bad as the news trying to sell. Talk to any interpreter here they will tell you the country is dangerous but not as dangerous as when Saddam was in power. Sounds like we did something good here if you ask me.

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By foxfyre

edited Oct 27, 2006 - 12:48 AM

Congress and ONLY Congress has complete and total control over the budget!
If you want to blame someone for the deficit blame Congress!

And if you want to blame someone for legislation, blame Congress! Bush did not enact this by executive order!

And why should families have to sell the family farm that has been in their family for generations simply to pay the tax? Yeah, like farmers are all getting rich!

And its because of Bush that the wacko Iraqis would rather b!tch about their screwy social pecking order as the various Islamic groups argue over who Allah likes best as they kill each other rather than cooperating and establishing functional self rule?

And China is the wealthiest nation in the world? It does not yet have the largest economy.

Should you say more? Good question. If you have something intelligible, sure! But give logic and reasoning a try for a change rather than inaccurate emotion. If its more of the same nonsense, well, it definately has entertainment value. Unfortunately we are laughing at you and not with you.

Congrats, you strike out on every point!

Take a civics course!

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By wincement

posted Oct 28, 2006 - 3:59 PM

Dang foxfyre. I'm agreeing with just about everything you say lately.

...What the heck happened? =p

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By FubarJeb

posted Oct 27, 2006 - 7:00 AM

Served...

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By deminicus

posted Oct 26, 2006 - 8:37 PM

i think as the middle class grows and becomes more empowered (even in the strict confines of Chinese law) they will start to demand more rights. China's plan maybe to slowly transition to a more democratic nation, a sudden switch isn't the best way to do things if you want to maintain economic stability, look at Russia for example. though this is my optimistic version of the situation, the pessimistic version is scary.

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By drumcat

edited Oct 26, 2006 - 6:51 PM

"an event which much of the world has forgotten in the wake of China's economic expansion"

Well isn't that an assumption about us dumba** readers. I think China's human rights record sucks. I think BetaNews' record on treating its readers as at least semi-intelligent is sliding quickly.

Lame.

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By nate

edited Oct 26, 2006 - 7:22 PM

Does it say anything about BetaNews readers? It seems to me that Scott is pointing out that much of the world has embraced China as the future economic superpower, and as a result turned a blind eye to many of the problems in the country.

China's economy is expected to overtake the United States by 2050. And the Olympics are being held there in 2008, without much of the necessary human rights reforms taking place. For more information, read some of the material from Amnesty International:

http://www.amnesty.org/

Look at Google and Yahoo and a huge number of other Internet companies embracing China and looking to make huge bucks despite the government's censorship and human rights abuses against those that use the Internet.

If you don't think "much of the world has forgotten," you must be living in a bubble, honestly.

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By Joe Dirt

posted Oct 26, 2006 - 9:42 PM

nate,

China sucks ass. China is horrible to animals, horrible to their people, and they freaking censor everything.

This world is falling apart because our dumba** leaders are outsourcing everything to communist countries. What we should do is cut off all trade with China until they get their act together.

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By Black-Wolf

posted Oct 27, 2006 - 1:03 PM

No dude.

The computer that you are using is made in China.

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By Grazer

edited Oct 27, 2006 - 2:30 PM

Joe Dirt, "This world is falling apart because our dumba** leaders are outsourcing everything to communist countries."

Black-Wolf, "No dude. The computer that you are using is made in China."

Anybody else see the irony here?

(Not that I don't think Joe Dirt was going overboard.)

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By wincement

posted Oct 28, 2006 - 4:05 PM

lol

Yeah... I saw that right away.

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By ajadoniz

edited Oct 27, 2006 - 11:59 AM

Joe Dirt... your name encompasses your view point exactly. Continue to base your opinion off the nightly news. How you have a connection to the internet is beyond me.

China is horrible to animals. Do you think we aren't? Do you think we put the cows to sleep before we slaughter them?

China is horrible to their people. Please explain. The U.S. spying on its citizens, is that considered horrible? The U.S. holding prisoners without acknowledging the Geneva Convention, is that horrible? Or how about, the FCC censoring everything it doesn't like, is that horrible to their people?

Please throw your keyboard away.

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By foxfyre

edited Oct 27, 2006 - 12:46 AM

Neither China nor any of the other so-called communist countries are, or ever were, communist! I don't care what they call themselves! The closest any of them have come is dictatorial socialism.

And I would make a BIG distinction between the government and the citizens of China! The Chinese people are wonderful - and much more motivated to excel than the typical US resident!

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By morriscox

posted Oct 27, 2006 - 8:45 PM

Agreed. I get along great with the Chinese and Taiwanese that I meet and they have been hardworking, intelligent, and friendly. It's the government that I can't stand.

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