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Third-Gen HD DVD Players in October

By BetaNews Staff, BetaNews

August 3, 2007, 2:29 PM

Although they have not been officially announced, Amazon may have let slip the release date for third-generation HD DVD players from Toshiba. Several sites linked to product pages -- which have since been pulled -- that indicated three new models are set to debut on October 1.

The HD-A3, HD-A30, and HD-A35 will retail for $299, $399, and $499, respectively, according to the pages. Specifics on the players were not available, although an announcement may be forthcoming at CEDIA. The event is scheduled for September 5-9 and commonly is a launch pad for new audiovisual products.

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By Hollywood__

posted Aug 6, 2007 - 4:43 AM

This just in: Dave sucks a bag of sh!t.

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

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By Hollywood__

edited Aug 5, 2007 - 12:46 PM

Where's Steve Austin and Benjanim Linus? Because Dave and MinuteMaid seem to be dominating this one. Did you two have a fight with Steve and Banjaimin and now you aren't talking to your multiple imaginary agreeable freinds.

They always seem so show up when an HD-DVD story is posted by BetaNews.

That is unless DaveBG is posting. When it's all "Steve" and "Benjamin" posts, DaveBG is never around.

I wonder why that is.

I can see by the time stamps, that you wake up every morning, go straight to the computer and check the most recent posts to see if there are any BD or HD-DVD stories.

You quickly post your rant with spelling errors and a general depressive angry tone. Almost all of your morning posts are between 8:30 and 9:00, even when you use multiple user names.

You tend do to that first thing in the morning more than at night so you can get your fake multiple opinions out for all to see as the day goes on.

Then, you go off to work, where there's obviously a computer with internet access. As work you post differently so you don't get caught.

Your work posts are very short and angry, and usually directed at me because you are so obsessed with Hollywood.

By the time you get home, you are pissed off because your job sucks and you take a lot more time digging up links and JPEG's to post on imageshack.

Of course you have to look at this system:

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

which by your standards "people would kill for".

The next morning, the whole proccess starts over again. I also noticed you have to work Saturdays and Sundays by your little pathetic method of posting.

I bet I'm really close.

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By flake

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 3:16 PM

Lol, this post *SO* reminds me of Usenet!

Total alt.aol-sucks style, kudos!

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By Hollywood__

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 4:30 PM

I try my best damn it!

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By MinuteMaid

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 10:15 AM

How about this too:

http://img165.imageshack...65/5254/untitledhq1.jpg

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By DaveBG

edited Aug 5, 2007 - 8:45 AM

Hollywood__, you made that picture from your setup? Its good that you agree you are loser!

I dont even have a PS3, i have Pioneer Blu-ray player you sucker.
Nice try pretending that this stupid setup is mine.
And btw your camera sucks bad. Maybe its Toshiba?

Holly, HD DVD is doomed, and with it you and your boyfriend Hocuspokus.
http://75.126.103.40/images/hd_data/hmmaug5.jpg

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By Hollywood__

edited Aug 5, 2007 - 2:01 PM

LMAO at Dave.

"I dont even have a PS3, i have Pioneer Blu-ray player you sucker."

So you admit you don't even own the gaming system you rant about all day long?

BWAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHA!!!!!!!!

Yes, Hocus and I are dating. We are planning on a commitment ceremony sometime next month, not that it's any of your business.

The problem is Dave (and all of your other names), you can't insult me. Because I will help you instead of getting mad.

Like this:

I am the biggest loser just like you said, I dont even have my own computer. I have to go to the library to post on BetaNews.

I make up stories about business trips and vacations to sound like a big man.

I'm all empty inside and I don't like myself very much.

signed

Hollywood__

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By Hocuspokus

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 1:18 PM

Mind you don't have an aneurysm Dave.

Sadly for you your beloved Sony/PS3/BD are right up sh*t-creek.
Sales diving back off of the cliff after that con of a 'price-cut' and HD DVD within a few points of matching retail movie disc sales.

Oh boo hoo hoo, eh?

You dreary little idiotic shill/drone.

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By Hollywood__

edited Aug 5, 2007 - 12:16 PM

LOL! More links. Don't you have anything better to do?

If that system wasn't yours, you wouldn't be so pissed off. Nice try pretending your not the same idiot who posts the exact same links and used the exact same lingo and is dumb enought to post under different usernames just minutes apart agreeing with yourself.

It's so pathetic already but you always came back and manage to out do yourself.

We all know you are a complete moron already, and now you are making it worse. You got away with it for the longest time, making everyone think you are actually ten different people.

I'm not the one who posted that picture for all to see and laugh at, you are.

Don't be pissed because BD is a failure, it's not my fault.

I warned you that that picture would haunt you from now until the rapture and now you're pretending it's not yours.

You crack me up, you are undoubtedly the most confused, desperate moron I have ever come across.

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

Man this is classic.

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By Hollywood__

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 1:48 AM

HD-DVD is closing the gap with only 5-8 percent of the player market share. That is just scary for Sony and the BD drones.

Dave can't handle it, he's going to freak out when HD-DVD takes the lead with so little players out there.

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By MinuteMaid

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 8:24 AM

Yawn, everyone is tired of your lies.

HD DVD is getting killed by Blu-Ray in Europe, US and Asia.

There area few vocal early HD DVD adopters making alot of noise, and a few misleading Toshiba press releases.

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By Hollywood__

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 12:20 PM

Yeah.........OK

BD and HD-DVD are both a complete failure in Europe and Asia.

A few early adopters? Are you telling me 2-3 people are somehow buying 40% of all the HD movies sold?

I'm pretty sure the numbers have jumped considerably in the last week due to price cuts on HD-DVD players and the more affordable and superior 360 with it's massive library of games and exclusive titles.

The best part is you actually beleive Toshiba press releases are causing BD's failure.

You bought the wrong player

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

And you have buyers remorse.

It's so obvious by your desperation and the general tone of your posts.

You will never win.

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By siryak

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 5:33 PM

Actually so far they are both complete failures everywhere. They have only managed about 1% of the movie sales. They are both FAR FAR away from being even close to successful.

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By PostDeals

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 9:03 PM

still waiting on a dominant winner

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By Hollywood__

edited Aug 5, 2007 - 1:52 AM

It's called a combo player. You can't lose until they introduce non backward compatible BD-Java. All set top BD players are screwed unless they have an ethernet port.

I guess when you roll out an unfinished inferior format, these things happen.

Do you realize if there was an equal amount of HD-DVD players and BD in peoples home that BD movies would only account for about four percent of all nex gen HD movies sold.

BD is doomed, nobody is buying movies. HD-DVD owners buy eight times as many movies as BD / PS3 owners.

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By Hocuspokus

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 11:51 AM

Nice.

Sane pricing and good specs.

I would like to see these players replace my existing DVD player completely so I want DVD-Audio, SACD and Divx/Xvid.

Give me all that at a price similar to the £120/$240 I paid for my last DVD player last summer and I'll be 'in' to HD DVD like a shot.

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By horsecharles

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 10:08 PM

Sane pricing for yuppie scum maybe....

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By Hocuspokus

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 6:58 AM

Yeah cos £120/$240 for a dvd player is soooooo excessive, huh?

You people crack me up.

Stick to your £20/$40 Asda/Walmart specials.

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By MinuteMaid

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 8:27 AM

It's not going to be £120 in the UK you idiot.

1/ the US price is plus tax.
2/ tax in the UK is 17.5%
3/ there is a 10% import duty for non-EU goods
4/ Everything in Europe is more expensive.

It will be £299 when it releases late 2008. (more likely £29.99, as the formar war will be over then, and HD DVD will be bargain basement goods).

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By SGD

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 4:00 PM

Glad I live in the States so I don't have to pay all that tax to support a socialist governemnt and life style.

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By Hollywood__

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 4:34 PM

Me too, the tax system here is wonderful if you know how to legally exploit it.

My / our accountant is a frickin genuis, he knows every legal loophole.

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By Hocuspokus

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 1:06 PM

"It's not going to be £120 in the UK you idiot."

- You really are a ludicrous & brain-dead moron, aren't you. (BTW, that's a statement not a question)

Try rereading and comprehending what I actually said.

I was talking about how I was looking forward to a Toshiba gen 3 HD DVD player that could replace & do all of what my existing Pioneer SD DVD player could do and at a similar price.

We're very close to that right now.

Sorry that obviously causes you distress.

Now, scurry along to your drooling sad-sack BD site where you can congratulate yourselves on how smart you are to worship Sony/PS3/BD.

You laughably tedious f*ckwit idiot shill/drone/troll.

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By Hollywood__

edited Aug 5, 2007 - 12:28 PM

DaveBG posts his rant and another demented Sony fanboy called MinuteMaid posts just 9 minutes later.

I think not. You are so stupid, I can't beleive you think people are falling for your nonsense.

Busted again.

Pathetic.

Like this system.

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

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By Hollywood__

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 3:05 AM

Wow,

Where's the resentment coming You don't like young successful people or something?

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By deminicus

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 9:14 AM

can we have at least one hd acticle where people stop talking about who is winning. in the end it's not that relevant, the world will keep going... at least till my doomsday device is complete.

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By mjm01010101

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 2:15 PM

My Doomsday device is clearly superior.

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By deminicus

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 8:45 AM

but does it emmit chromaton radiation?

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By Hollywood__

posted Aug 3, 2007 - 7:00 PM

If you follow HD-DVD ay all you will know that generation one players are backwards compatible with any upcoming features like dual layered discs.

Blu-Ray players are not backwards compatible to Blu-Ray Java, except the PS3. I think they can do a firmware update. None of the BD set top boxes have ethernet for updates.

Too bad.

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By DaveBG

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 8:25 AM

What a retard, hd dvd fails with every day and you still claim victory. Loser!

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By Hollywood__

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 2:46 PM

You are demented. How can you call a format like BD a success when they are barely selling more movies than HD-DVD who has 1/17th the amount of players in peoples homes?

You always manage to dodge that question and have no answer. You are truly pathetic and your system sucks.

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!

The only people that would kill for that system are house robbing crack heads who don't know your equipment is s***.

You must still be suffering from low self esteem knowing I am superior to you in every single way.

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By bobthegoat2001

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 4:45 PM

Did I tell you his sytem is 720p? So all this 'you need HDMI so that you can get 1080p' bs he was raving about and he doesn't have a system that supports 1080p.

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By Hocuspokus

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 7:31 PM

Nothing but a sad wannabe trying to show out.

What a pathetic little winkle.

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By Hollywood__

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 8:29 PM

Exactly,

I would have been impressed by a 73 inch Toshiba DLP and a real surround sound system.

An entry level 42" (the smallest money can buy) plasma is hardly a home theater. Plus the idiot doesn't even have a center channel for his "surround" system.

What a filthy jackass.

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

LMAO at this sad POS system.

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By Hocuspokus

edited Aug 4, 2007 - 1:20 PM

"hd dvd fails with every day"

- Ha ha ha ha. Dave f*cked up big stylee, again.

HD DVD has a larger share of the high def DVD market than the PS3 has in the games market.

So come on then, spin this one, tell us all about 'failing' and being 'dead', Dave huh?

Fool.

......and DVD Empire shows HD DVD selling more movies this week

(and Amazon USA have the Toshiba HD A2 as the best selling DVD player of any type they stock - as it has been now for months, period).

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By dlab21

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 6:28 PM

are you ****ing kidding? thats not relative. if you wanted to make a point using real stats try sonys % of the games market compared to microsoft and nintendo. and then standard dvd to blu-ray to hd-dvd. hmmm hd-dvd is smallest and has a smaller market share the even just the ps3 in the games market.

oh and what week are you talking about becuase from jun 19th on dvdempire shows higher bluray sales.

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By pridewalker

posted Aug 6, 2007 - 2:38 PM

"oh and what week are you talking about becuase from jun 19th on dvdempire shows higher bluray sales. "

I'm gonna point this out...AGAIN. If you're gonna quote dvdempire.com's numbers, at least pay attention to the information listed. Underneath the chart, where it gives the percentages of units sold, there's some small print explaining "percentage of OUR overall Hi Def items sold by format". I capitalized the important word for ya.

Dvdempire is by no means indicative of the overall picture. Nice try, but ignoring facts like that is what causes the FUD that people on these boards so desperately cry about.

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By dlab21

posted Aug 7, 2007 - 11:37 PM

i didn't quote their numbers. he had used it as a source.. i looked and said "its not what you said" he then proceeded to say "yes it was" before checking. its not my source and i don't care where the numbers came from because i wasn't basing anything on them.

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By Hocuspokus

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 7:25 PM

"are you ****ing kidding? thats not relative."

- Oh yes it is (and from your tone you know it too, shill).

If HD DVD is said to be 'dead' by the Sony/PS3/BD shills/drones when it has a larger share of it's market than the PS3 does in it's then what does that make the PS3, hmmmmm?!

"oh and what week are you talking about becuase from jun 19th on dvdempire shows higher bluray sales."

- Go play your 'selective week' games with someone else; like I said DVD Empire shows HD DVD leading BD for the week of the 31st July.

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By dlab21

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 8:27 PM

yea my selective week. as i said... no it doesn't show that: week of july 31st hddvd:44.53% bluray:55.47%
hmm close tho i suppose this could confuse you.
maybe a monthly view would be simpler for you.
june: bluray:65.40%, july 59.79% so far in aug:62.65%....... doesn't seem that hd-dvd has been ahead at all.
in 2007: bluray:61.78%
thats a shame you're so full of s***.

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By siryak

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 9:46 PM

ROFL!!! TY for showing us how the gap in sales between the HD-DVD and Blo-Ray have become practically non existent. I thought HD-DVD was a dead format? If it is why does it keep gaining ground on Blo-Ray? I am very interested to hear your explanation on this.

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By dlab21

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 10:37 PM

do you understand what 20% of a years worth of sales means? keep believing its not existent or maybe its a margin of error? i have never said that hd-dvd is a dead format cause its in stores and im not blind. as far as gaining ground i have yet to see anything about hd-dvd being exclusive anywhere but a couple of places are bluray only so depends on what aspect you're looking at i suppose.

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By siryak

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 10:52 PM

20% of 1% is non existent yes...

"i have never said that hd-dvd is a dead format cause its in stores and im not blind"

Maybe not you, but your fellow cheerleaders have.

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By dlab21

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 11:15 PM

then bring it up against them.

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By siryak

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 9:03 PM

I believe I already have with the posts above lol. You can see the abundance of responses they have given.

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By bobthegoat2001

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 4:40 AM

Hello Steve.

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By Hocuspokus

edited Aug 4, 2007 - 9:38 PM

"thats a shame you're so full of s***."

- You're projecting again, idiot.

As is always the case if you Sony/PS3/BD shills/drones knew the subject at least half as well as you pretend to you'd know DVD Empire revise their figures.

My stat was accurate but it has since been revised.....

.....to 44.5 to 55.5.

With 3.7 million PS3s out there (or is it 6 million now? ......I hope y'all claim 6 million+, that's even funnier) verses just under 400,000 HD DVD players.
Not so impressive is it, shill?

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By dlab21

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 10:21 PM

where did i say it was impressive?
and it hasn't been revised since my first response so maybe you should have doubled checked before claiming i was playing 'selective week' games as you put it.
point wasn't studio support (or there lack of) or picture quality or even attach rate (even tho im sure hollywood could provide us some great math on how many hd-dvds are sold per player inserting x and ys), the point was the percentage of sales on the dvdempire website that you chose to use as a source did not reflect what you had said. clear yet?

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By Hollywood__

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 4:36 PM

You couldnt follow simple division and algebra?

By the way, the attach rates are 9 to 1 over BD and on the rise for HD-DVD.

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By siryak

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 9:26 PM

Lol yah Blo-Ray can't even muster a 2 to 1 lead in movie sales anymore with all of those PS3s out there. Although the POS3 is all that is keeping this format a float. Without it Blo-Ray would be on its' last breath by now. As you can see by the charts HD-DVD was dominating with 70-80% before the POS3. So basically whenever people had a choice and didn't have a format forced upon them, they chose HD-DVD. They are continuing to choose HD-DVD and the set-tops(where they actually are getting a choice) show it. The PS3 can not keep Blu-Ray afloat forever. Once HD-DVD gets their price down to sub $200 for the set tops they will sell like hot cakes. Mark my words: Price WILL decide this war. If Sony gets cheaper first they will win.(unlikely) The average consumer doesn't know all of this technical crap we bicker about all day, and probably don't care to. They DO care about price.

Another thing that is going to haft to happen before either format takes off is HDTVs are going to haft to get cheaper. There is a VERY large number of people out there that don't even have an HDTV yet.

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By Hocuspokus

edited Aug 5, 2007 - 1:12 PM

wriggle wriggle.

LMFAO.

BTW that HD DVD 'lead' was correct as of the Tuesday of that week and was subsequently revised from 55/44 in HD DVD's favour to 55/44 in BD's favour.

.....and considering the numbers of players supposed to be out there it's hardly something for the BD shills to be boasting about.

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By Hollywood__

edited Aug 4, 2007 - 4:31 PM

Hocus,

Some people operate in reality and other are just brainwashed morons. You could show him that HD-DVD was outselling BD 10 to 1 in movie sales and players and he would spin it and call it a lie.

There is something seriously wrong with him. Nobody with a real life goes around digging up links to this stuff all day and worrying about a format war.

Plus, he posted this picture:

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

which pretty much says it all.

The best part is the only people who agree with him in here are his multiple user accounts. He isnt smart enough to different language or links with his 20 other names, just the same tired lingo and completely made up ranting.

When a PS3 or HD-DVD story comes up and there ar no posts by "DaveBG", there's a red flag right there.

Here is the quick list so far that I can quickly recall.

DaveBG / Benjamin Linus / Steve Austin / MinuteMaid / pitdingo / fernz33 ... and those are only the recent ones. There are dozens more, I just don't have the time to research old posts and collect them all, like Dave does.

The guy is truly ****ed in the head and that's why I love to belittle him. He was dumb enough to post a picture of that dusty system just because I hounded him for months.

HD-DVD will surpass BD in movie sales shortly and the players are flying off the shelves. Microsoft sold a ton of add-ons at $149 when the price dropped and the A2 is number one at Amazon.

God I love it when he goes nuts over the success of HD-DVD.

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By siryak

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 9:48 PM

The HD-DVD add on sales have risen 1000% since the price drop.

http://www.xbox-scene.co.../EElypyZpEETceoXHpw.php

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By MinuteMaid

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 8:30 AM

So they sold 100 units now then.

sales were dire before, a 1000% increase on dire sales is not impressive.

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By siryak

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 9:37 PM

You mean dire like Blo-Rays' overpriced set top players' sales? Or dire like the PS3s' game sales?

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By Hocuspokus

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 7:28 PM

Bet s/he hasn't the nuts to show a full pic of that 'system'.

I'm seeing maybe an old SD CRT (or at best a 720p/1080i Plasma = so much for all that 1080p BS); a Sky HD box (big deal......but I bet it's his/her parents) and funniest of all is what looks like an ancient VHS sitting at the bottom on the carpet.
But my guess is we'll never get to see a decent pic cos of the shame & embarrassment a proper pic would bring him/her.

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By Hollywood__

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 1:50 PM

Not that it would matter, 240i and 1080P would look the same on a screen that small.

Dave is so pissed off about posting that sad picture, he doesnt even switch over and log in as Steve anymore.

It is supposedly Steve's system, not Dave's.

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

LOL!

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By Hollywood__

edited Aug 4, 2007 - 8:36 PM

Hocus

Some of your comments are getting pretty mean. I would never post a link to picture of someones sad system over and over.

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

Here's an idea Dave, just sit really close and it will feel like you have a real TV.

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By DaveBG

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 1:31 PM

"and DVD Empire shows HD DVD selling more movies this week"

http://www.dvdempire.com...p;userid=99365880413071

More fud from the hd dud retards.

another idiot pwned again.

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By MinuteMaid

edited Aug 5, 2007 - 8:36 AM

Here's a link for Holywood__

http://img165.imageshack...65/5254/untitledhq1.jpg

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By Hocuspokus

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 1:13 PM

Cooo under 400,000 HD DVD verses 3.7 million PS3s and that's the best you've got!?

LMFAO.

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By Hollywood__

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 1:52 PM

Precisely Hocus. He enever has an explanation for how "a few early adopters" are driving HD-DVD movie sales.

Instead, it should say "Very few PS3 owners are buying BD movies"

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

LMAO!

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By bobthegoat2001

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 4:45 AM

"More fud from the hd dud retards.

another idiot pwned again."

There's his PMS3 acting up again.

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By Hollywood__

edited Aug 4, 2007 - 8:41 PM

Thanks for the link Dave, look at that gap close, and with just a fraction of the players Blu-Ray has out there.

BD is a failure any way you look at it.

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

Thanks to your link, I see HD-DVD has more pre-releases and studios on board. Way to prove your point.

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By Hocuspokus

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 7:17 PM

F*ck you Dave you lying idiot shill.

HD DVD sales are leading Blu-ray 55:44 on DVD Empire for the week of the 31st Jul.

Once again you reveal yourself to be an ignorant fool.

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By Latz !

edited Aug 4, 2007 - 1:40 PM

People might take you more seriously if you could post without acting like a twelve year old and calling people names. Act like a troll and you'll get treated like one.

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By Hocuspokus

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 7:19 PM

Naaa f*ck em, Latz.

If they want to talk to us and try to manipulate us with their stupid PR viral BS then treat them with the derisive contempt they deserve.

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By Hollywood__

edited Aug 4, 2007 - 4:33 PM

Don't waste your bandwidth on this human cum stain.

Just look at this dusty system:

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

All entry level sh!te. I bet that PS3 is the poor mans 20GB model. I see the entry level receiver and no center channel for his "7.1" system.

LMMFAO!

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By MinuteMaid

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 4:00 PM

"I bet that PS3 is the poor mans 20GB model."

Wouldn't it have the black fashia, rather than the chrome one?

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By Hollywood__

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 6:29 PM

I wouldn't know Dave. I havent looked at mine in months and only a true loser would know that.

Sorry your PS3 will be obsolete soon Steve, I mean Dave, I mean Minute..... aww **** I'm to tired for this.

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By siryak

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 9:08 AM

If they're failing why are sales increasing Dave? Oh btw after the price drop the HD-DVD add on sales rose 1000%.

http://www.xbox-scene.co.../EElypyZpEETceoXHpw.php

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By MinuteMaid

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 8:38 AM

Apprently, people are buying them in preparation for the announcement from Microsoft that GTA IV will need a HDD and a HD DVD drive to play.

Unbelivable, but true.

http://news.filefront.co...-games-will-require-hdd/

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By bobthegoat2001

edited Aug 6, 2007 - 12:21 AM

Is that what the voices in your head say? To bad Microsoft already said that no games are going to be released on HD-DVD.

Also nowhere in that article does it say about requiring HD-DVD.

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By MinuteMaid

posted Aug 6, 2007 - 3:12 AM

"to bad Microsoft already said that no games are going to be released on HD-DVD."

Just like they said games will never require a HDD?

Just like the HDMI cable was coming soon for the premium?

Just like there were no relibility issues with the 360?

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By bobthegoat2001

posted Aug 7, 2007 - 7:07 AM

Those must be more words from the voices in your head.

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By SGD

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 10:01 AM

You really have no idea what you are talking about. If you knew anything the copy protection for the 360 is on the drive so that won't happen. The HD add-on does not have that on the drive so keep tossing your garbage. This site has so many people that think that they can see into the future. In reality they are clueless.

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By Hocuspokus

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 1:15 PM

Yeah & they have the bare-faced chhek to say others are spreading "FUD".

Outright lies, that's all they have left.

Sad w*nkers.

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By MinuteMaid

edited Aug 4, 2007 - 4:06 AM

Here we go again, FUD Central.

How much do Microsoft/Toshiba pay you?

My Panasonic Blu-Ray player works fine with Blu-Ray Java.

Do these ones support the 51GB HD DVD discs that arn't backwards compatible with earlier players?

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By Hollywood__

posted Aug 5, 2007 - 4:40 PM

Cmon Dave / MinuteMaid, where's the HD-DUD comment, we all know it's coming.

BD-J isnt even finished yet, you need to take lying lessons.

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By Hollywood__

edited Aug 4, 2007 - 4:35 PM

Hey MinuteDave,

First off you don't own a Panasonic Blu-Ray player because you are in fact the same jagoff everybody hates so quit lying or post a picture. And no player currently works with BD-Java, which is another lie.

You suck at everything.

Is this yours?

http://img409.imageshack...09/1838/image038bf9.jpg

I know it is. Is that the 20GB model? Let me smash it and do you a favor.

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By Hocuspokus

edited Aug 4, 2007 - 1:28 PM

"Do these ones support the 51GB HD DVD discs that arn't backwards compatible with earlier players?"

- LMAO. Typical desperate shill at work.
How much does Sony pay you cruds for your regular idiotic and deeply ignorant BS?

51gb is likely to be used mainly on PCs.

17gb single layers & 34gb (the new Dual Layer size) will definitely work on all HD DVD players made to date.

This is a fact if you see the read speeds etc which are in the detail of the specs from the very first HD DVD drive......as is the original 45gb TL size in fact; but it is still open to question whether the 3rd layer of the new 51gb TL version will work on the very first gen 1 drives - in other words none of us can say either way right now).

Of course the movie industry has never said 30/34gb is insufficient and there is not the slightest sign of them even thinking of moving to the bigger TL disc (in fact with the 30gb DL size performing so well a new 34gb DL size makes this even less likely).

Naturally the notion that even if a movie was put onto a 51gb TL disc that it could and would be packaged so that all the main & biggest features would be able to be read from layers 1 & 2, so as not to leave behind those gen 1 player owners, is very clearly a little too complex & hard for the pointy headed idiot Sony/PS3/BD shill/drones to conceive.

How about the Sony/PS3/BD shill/drones tell us what happens to the non-profile 1:1 BD player owners & the features they are guaranteed to miss out on, eh?

.....not that a small matter like the facts would ever get in the way of the Sony/PS3/BD shill/drones trying to spread a little lying BS tho, eh?

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By mshulman

posted Aug 3, 2007 - 9:07 PM

I do think its still not 100% certain whether or not the PS3 will support 1.1. I really hope it does though since I own one.

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By Hocuspokus

posted Aug 4, 2007 - 7:21 PM

I am reliably informed that only the $2000 Denon is a definite for profile 1.1.

Sorry but that's what you get when you believe the lies from people like Sony...... or their shills & drones like Dave & his various aliases.

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By smarterthanyou

posted Aug 3, 2007 - 8:04 PM

Blu-Ray players don't need an ethernet port for firmware updates. I'm sure that most Blu-Ray hardware manufacturers will gladly send you a firmware update on an optical disc upon request. Yes, it's a lot more inconvenient than using the internet, but the firmware is still upgradeable.

Hopefully the HD-A30 player will fix the bug in the HD-A20 player that causes incorrect deinterlacing of 1080i video. You'd have to be a sucker to buy the HD-A20 player over the HD-A2 player.

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By calcajun

posted Aug 3, 2007 - 7:52 PM

Yeah, good thing i bought a PS3.
Then again, for those that have first gen players, Thats the risk you take for diving into bleeding edge technology.

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By Hollywood__

edited Aug 5, 2007 - 4:38 PM

I have / had a first gen HD-DVD, the XA1. It's pretty much a slow dog, but at least it's backward compatible with HD-DVD DL.

It now sits in a room with all the other unused equipment.

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