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Vista Beta Offers Peek at Aero Interface

By Ed Oswald, BetaNews

July 27, 2005, 3:23 PM

Windows Vista Beta 1Following what many viewed as an unimpressive first showing of the then "Longhorn" OS at this year's WinHEC, Wednesday's release of Windows Vista Beta 1 began to show hints of the Aero interface that will play a large role in the new operating system.

Microsoft also confirmed Wednesday that a feature complete version of the interface will not be included until Beta 2, not due until early 2006.

Most notably, Vista users will notice that windows are now translucent with more animation when opening and closing windows. "Because it is visually intuitive, the glass helps users focus on the task at hand, whether reading a document, viewing a Web page or editing a photo," Microsoft says.

Vista will include better organizational features, such as Virtual Folders and a quick search box very similar to the Spotlight feature now available in Mac OS X "Tiger." Virtual folders are equivalent to saved searches, which will automatically update without user intervention as related data is added and removed from the computer.

Quick search will allow the user to quickly search their hard drive much like the company's MSN Desktop Search already provides, and be able to start wider searches across the entire PC.

Finally, the Start menu has received a bit of a facelift in Windows Vista, now including a search box at the bottom to allow a user to access programs by typing the first few letters of the program's name. Doing so pops up search results within the Start menu pane allowing for faster access to applications than going through the All Programs menu.

The Control Panel has received a facelift along with Pictures and Video. Users will be able to organize, rate and view file information on multimedia files easier than they could in previous versions of Windows.

Microsoft says the enhancements will "give users clear ways to organize and use their information and seamlessly connect to people and devices."

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By bharath

edited Feb 11, 2006 - 12:11 AM

i want winvista as early as possible ...please...................

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By czuczu25

edited Feb 9, 2006 - 10:54 AM

skad sciagnac viste?

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By PC Rat

posted Sep 14, 2005 - 3:17 PM

Nothing revolutionary so far.

Much of this stuff is minor or incremental improvements. The more major things are innovations which ~should~ have occurred years ago !

The translucenct element is overrated, and not even all that impressive as "eye candy".

Saved searches are nice ...but we should've had THAT feature seven years ago in Win98. A saved search ain't exactly rocket science !

A lot of the WinVista interface seems a continuation of Microsoft's goal of dumbing-down Windows so that even drooling idiots can use it.

The Computer Rodent

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By nelson henrique

edited Aug 27, 2005 - 8:56 PM

gostaria de receber o beta do windows vista

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By x_eleman

edited Aug 23, 2005 - 1:53 AM

new xp good...

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By qwertyu

posted Aug 11, 2005 - 1:33 PM

info windows vista - longhorn http://www.windows-vista.host.sk

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By luke.mac1

edited Aug 5, 2005 - 5:07 PM

Can someone please send me the download link.
luke.mac1@gmail.com

Thanks,

Luke

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By XNeo```

posted Aug 1, 2005 - 11:14 AM

CAN'T WAIT!!!

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By XNeo```

posted Aug 1, 2005 - 11:12 AM

Can't wait!!!!!

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By rancher1

edited Jul 30, 2005 - 2:23 PM

Things are becoming more clear, thanks to a suddenly open and communicative Microsoft,is Longhorn now dead? I look forward to the new Vista shame about the name, they should have kept "Longhorn" as I have followed this for over 3 years and can't wait for the new O/S with all the developments made by the Longhorn guys during this time and credit to them. :)

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By pilotboi

posted Aug 1, 2005 - 1:45 PM

To rancher1:

Longhorn was just a codename. For all Microsot products, they use codenames until they finda public name to use. The code name for Windows XP was Whistler.

Longhorn *IS* Vista. They are the same project.

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By unfnknblvbl

edited Jul 30, 2005 - 11:38 AM

having heard about all the prettiness of Windows Vista/Longhorn, I installed the beta, only to be confronted by a butt-ugly UI with no transparancies or funky effects whatsoever, and I can't find any documentation on the issue whatsoever - I have an up-to-date machine with a GF6600 videocard, so I don't understand why there is no mention of the lack of pretties anywhere :(

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By goselito

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 1:56 PM

UTAKER, basicjr and geniusinsandals, unfortunately vista is only available for download to Microsoft Partners and MSDN subscribers.

However, it won't be long before it is leaked to p2p networks if it hasn't already

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By UTAKER

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 5:08 AM

What are the minimum hardware requirements?

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By goselito

edited Jul 28, 2005 - 4:44 PM

Well, I just installed Vista and it is a lot better than the last build for longhorn. seems to run stable so far. very good for beta 1

Something that came as a bit of a surprise is that ie7 now has a built in search bar, but what surprised me is the easily accesible way you can set your default search engine for it. I'd have though MS would have wanted to make it a bit more difficult in order to get more exposure for the new msn search

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By Isolated

edited Aug 26, 2005 - 3:42 PM

What's compatibility like? I haven't really been following this. For example, will my iPod work with it? What about MSN Messenger? Limewire? How would it affect my home LAN that I currently have set up?

Coud you please email me, actually? gavinsmith[at]swift-graphics.com

Thanks a lot, if you can help me out on this.

Great post, by the way. :)

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By basicjr

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 7:19 AM

May I know, How and where can i get a copy of the Windows Vista Beta?

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By geniusinsandals

edited Jul 28, 2005 - 6:59 PM

Hi Vista sounds good but where can I get a copy from?? I have Longhorn already Thanks for your help if you can.
Billy

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By pafinator11

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 11:55 AM

I'm a linux user because I'm all about customizing my computer and I'm all about effects. I have to admit I'm very impressed with that interface. I just wish that they could make it use up less cpu. You think about it... I can run Fedora Core 3 on a 1ghz system with just as many effects as a 2.4 ghz windows xp system and it will run faster. It's a shame. They should cut down on useless services. The less services they have the less cpu it utilizes the less possible security holes. I mean if Mircosoft would at least try to take some ideas from some other operating systems they would have an excellent platform going on.

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By zenaphex

edited Jul 28, 2005 - 1:03 PM

If you do not like certain services running then you always have the ability to disable them I am sure. Yes, it can be bloating and make excessive use of the computers resources. That's where tweaking Windows comes in.

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By vujnovic

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 9:47 AM

A note to Kramy:

You sound like a sensible power
user tired of GUI eye-candy getting
in the way of productivity and
speed.

If you want immensely powerful file
searches, renaming, moving, macros,
and other GUI- and Registry-free
file management operations, get:

http://www.ztree.com/html/news.htm

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By Kramy

edited Jul 28, 2005 - 3:14 PM

Looks interesting, but part of the reason I can do many things so fast(aside from installing stuff) is that I've modded right-click menus on files. I've added quite a few programs to the "Send To" menu(file analysers, hex editors, metapad, etc.), and cascaded menus for various file formats to open in different programs.

It works quite quickly, since I can use the run box to quickly find any directory on my computer, and then just right-click a file and open in my program of choice.

It does look neat though - but I'm not sure I want to pay that much money when what I'm currently doing in Win2k works very well for me. I'll keep the link and see how "Vista" really is.

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By vujnovic

posted Jul 29, 2005 - 3:57 AM

Your approach is what I've been doing for years -- but your tweaks are limited to your own PCs, right?

What if you have to visit/work on 10's of 95/98/2K/XP machines that you can't customize? You are back to the old, slow, vanilla interface(s).

ZTree travels with you on a floppy/USB key/CD/network with all your tools, scripts, keyboard macros and customizations. You have your own UI working everywhere you go and no longer have to worry about the latest skins/icons/themes that disrupt work for *power* users every few years (no matter how aesthetically pleasing they may be).

If you don't consider yourself an advanced PC user, don't even bother with ZTree -- there is a learning curve to climb for regular mouse-clickers :-)

http://vujnovic.free.fr/ztw/index.html

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By xoineg

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 8:17 AM

It looks much better than Mac OS X because it is a rip off of Mac OS X. The graphics are great but it reminds me of apple’s. Hopefully it will run without many problems unlike previous releases. Can’t wait to run it on an Intel-MAC machine :P

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By cool_guy

edited Jul 28, 2005 - 9:50 AM

Which part exactly is a rip off? Please be specific. I don't see anything similar with Mac OS X when it comes to GUI theming and design. Looks completely different. If you were referring to the search bar on the toolbar, yea that may be and the way you organise files etc but the GUI look/theme has nothing to do with a rip off. Not even close.

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By Kramy

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 3:01 PM

Lots of the icons are identical, and the text font is exactly the same as OS X. Rip. :P

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By cool_guy

edited Jul 28, 2005 - 5:33 AM

It looks alright. I like it, it's much better then XP, my opinion better then MacOS X. Too much white, too much bright colors hurts my eyes. This instead is soft to your eyes. However, I don't like the Window Control Buttons. I think the Whistler version of Windows had better control buttons then this one.

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By zenaphex

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 12:59 AM

Nice interface shots. My particular favorite has to be the one showing the Control Panel. Very neat and clean control center appeal. I can't wait to see what intuitive and eye candy experiments people come up with with the new user interface/scripting capabilities when this thing goes officially public and final.

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By Kramy

edited Jul 27, 2005 - 11:14 PM

And now for a long, semi-useless post.

----- + ----- + ----- + ----- + ----- + ----- + -----

Processor: 1.8ghz AMD 2000+
RAM: 512mb Samsung PC2700
HD: 120gb 7200RPM Seagate
OS: Win2k PRO Sp4

Programs to install:
DirectX 9.0c
AVG
Keiro
Spybot S&D
Ad-Aware
CCleaner
Tweaknow Regcleaner
Registry Mechanic
Sun Java 1.5.0_4
7-Zip
Foxit Reader
PDF Creator 0.81
Dosbox
Azureus
PSP 5
ffdshow
GTK + MPlayer
Mozilla 1.7.8
Asus Smartdoctor
miniDNS
CPU-Z
Driver Cleaner Pro
frhed
Netbeans + JDK
Aquamark3
3Dmark2000
3Dmark2001SE
3Dmark03
3Dmark05
PCmark02
PCmark04
HDTune
Prime95
RivaTuner

Number of programs without startmenu shortcuts: 0
Number of programs under "Start -> Programs": 0
Number of programs installed in default location: 0
Total Install time: 15 minutes.

----- + ----- + ----- + ----- + ----- + ----- + -----

Do that with your new interface! :P

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By captainahab

posted Jul 27, 2005 - 10:14 PM

I think the new look is terrific. Can't wait to get my hands on the final.

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By JChiaravalle

posted Jul 27, 2005 - 8:51 PM

Whilst most users dont like change, I embrace change with an open mind. The Aero interface was designed for a reason and it wasnt to designed to make things worse.

If users could get with the times and understand that the changes have a purpose they would be much better off. The old windows shell dating back to 95 is cumbersome, annoying & restricted. The New aero seems to be very slick and managable, also it appears to be most efficient and timesaving.

Also note aero would be half wasted for users who prefer to maximize every window. The concept of maximizing windows defeats the purpose of windows as it is a window!

I'd suggest the negative people out there learn to use the windows shell how it was designed to be used and stop being such idiots when it comes to change for the better of computing.

You are making the betanews community look stupid.

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By Kramy

edited Jul 27, 2005 - 11:01 PM

I like maximizing stuff. If it can't be maximized, I usually uninstall it or rarely use it. I can deal much better with 40 open windows all maximized than I can with a Mac with windows overlapping. I guess it's just my mind, since I seem to remember the positions of every single window I open, and am easily able to find them in the taskbar, despite them being 32x32 boxes labled "..."

That's part of the reason I dislike XP, btw - it keeps moving windows around in the taskbar.

Edit: The number one comment I get from people(in real life) is that they don't know wth I am doing, since I use tons and tons of hotkeys where it can speed something up by half a second.

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By PC_Tool

edited Sep 13, 2005 - 10:56 AM

Ah yes, the ever useful flying "e" (winkey-E combo).

Among others..

They better nt f* with my shortcuts in Vista or I shall be sorely put out.

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By nt5k

posted Jul 27, 2005 - 6:10 PM

Smart Folders will change your life. In Apple mail I use them to create folders for friends, business, etc and the mail goes to the right folder based on the group that I assigned them to in Address Book. Who knows if this will have that level of integration.

So far all I'm seeing is a facelift and a feature that OS X has today..

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By Kramy

edited Jul 27, 2005 - 3:56 PM

I want a simple start menu. The "Programs" section of my start menu has two folders(Accessories, Startup) which I would move if I could, and delete "Programs" from the start menu if possible.

I like the searchbox though. I almost exclusively use the run box to navigate folders in my computer.

Edit: Virtual folders are bad(for me). I don't like extra features that create overhead and bloat, if I don't have the option to completely disable them. All I want for a search is a simple search records three things about every file on my computer: Name, Extension, Size

My ideal search would accept commands like "ski *.jpg" to find any jpegs that have "ski" in them. Simple, fast, no bloat. That's what I want, that's what I'll never get.

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By Mystiqq

posted Jul 27, 2005 - 6:33 PM

"My ideal search would accept commands like "ski *.jpg" to find any jpegs that have "ski" in them. Simple, fast, no bloat. That's what I want, that's what I'll never get."

Actually, even in XP you can enable the Win2K version of search (simple). Hopefully they will support any and all old things like the Win2K style search among others.

Honestly, i thought they couldnt make the OS look any uglier than in XP, i was wrong. Classic for me as well.

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By Kramy

edited Jul 27, 2005 - 10:55 PM

Unfortunately, Win2k and WinXP searches bring up all the separate names together. So for example, that "ski *.jpg" will bring up anything with "ski" in it, but it also considers "*.jpg" separate, and brings up every single ".jpg" file. Ideally a search program would consider the extension linked to the other search terms, for example "ski camp holiday *.jpg" bringing up .jpg files with any of those 3 keywords in them.

Another thing I dislike is Microsoft's indexing service malfunctions on my computer, so is completely useless for searching. I'd be much happier with a program that has a "Rebuild Database" button that brute-force checks every single file on your computer and adds it to a database when you tell it to(much like an antivirus scan....except faster and easier to code). That way when I'm leaving my computer for a few min, I can quickly tell it to start building a DB of 90gb of data.

I've found most search programs out there are designed to make searching "simple" and "efficient", yet I _NEVER_ have to use searching to find anything of mine(I use massive hierarchies of folders).

About the only time I use searching is to find something of my Parents', finding windows crap, or looking inside files(for example to manually move email from one partition to another when swapping harddrives or transfering data from one computer to another).

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By PC_Tool

posted Sep 13, 2005 - 10:54 AM

Dude...?

*ski*.jpg

No spaces.

Works fine in the Win2k Search enabled XP.

Will find:

skidoo.jpg
lowinski.jpg
and
lowinskidoo.jpg

So there.

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By PhoenixPath

posted Jul 27, 2005 - 5:07 PM

Yeh...looks like I'll be switching that straight to "Classic" desktop.

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By TanNg

posted Jul 27, 2005 - 4:02 PM

Virtual folder and tagging are very good features to organize your informations. Look here and you may find how it is usefull

http://www.pcmag.com/sli...amp;po=1&i=1,00.asp

Can't wait for it.

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By c00rdb1

posted Jul 28, 2005 - 1:24 PM

they did a great job of copying the look of OS x

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By jblow89577

edited Jul 29, 2005 - 6:14 AM

well os x copied a few thing from the early longhorn builds before its release so whouldnt they.

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