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Windows Live ID to Replace Passport

By Ed Oswald, BetaNews

February 27, 2006, 6:56 PM

EXCLUSIVE Microsoft plans to roll its Passport authentication service into the Windows Live family of Web services by 2007, renaming it to Windows Live ID, BetaNews has learned. While the company is keeping mum on specifics, the service will make use of Microsoft's new InfoCard technology.

Sources familiar with the situation say Windows Live ID is part of up to three-dozen "Live" services currently in development. Some of these products would piggyback on top of preexisting services -- like Windows Live Local Search Free Call, which enables users to call businesses directly from search results.

Standalone offerings, meanwhile, would include products like the Windows Live Toolbar and the recently announced Windows Live Family Safety Settings.

While most of these services will not be released by April, when the core Windows Live family is said to be exiting beta, the revelation of a whole host of new Live products in the pipeline indicates Microsoft is placing a major bet on the Web services concept.

A Microsoft spokesperson confirmed the existence of Windows Live ID to BetaNews late Monday, calling it the authentication service for Windows Live. "You may consider it a major upgrade to Passport technology," he said. According to Microsoft, Windows Live ID would play a large part in making upcoming services possible.

"We do plan for Windows Live ID to work with InfoCards in the future," he continued, although declined to say whether the feature would make it into the service's initial launch.

Microsoft chairman Bill Gates provided the first clues to the existence of Windows Live ID at the RSA Conference earlier this month, when he said InfoCard was intended to replace Passport and would make password-based authentication obsolete.

With over 30 services potentially taking on the "Live" moniker, industry watchers are warning that the Redmond company risks diluting the brand like it did with the .NET concept.

"Within a matter of months [after .NET's initial release], Microsoft marketers began attaching the .Net moniker to all kinds of products, from Windows .Net Servers, to MapPoint.Net," said Mary Jo Foley, author of the Microsoft Watch newsletter. ".Net became a meaningless term that even Redmond's own couldn't explain concisely."

According to Foley, Microsoft risks the same result with Windows Live if it isn't careful. "It seems like Microsoft, its partners and its customers could benefit from some kind of clearly articulated policy as to what will and won't be considered a Live property."

The Microsoft spokesperson could not confirm public release dates or the number of Windows Live projects in development, but acknowledged, "you'll see many more new products in the coming months."

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By manarjabado@hotmail.com

edited Jan 5, 2007 - 12:25 AM

please i want to remove the kids permission from this account manarjabado@hotmail.com

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By hatebeta

edited Nov 14, 2006 - 10:13 AM

how can i get rid of windows id.it wont let me access my hotmail.keeps saying cookies disabled.help please.i have urgent emails to send to spain. thanks. dave
PPS,can i not be a member.i have lost a possible job in spain.thankyou very much....

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By juber406

edited Oct 31, 2006 - 12:20 PM

I think this New System: InfoCards will succeed. Microsoft Will make a big profit out of everything. I think it will be good to have InfoCards and Windows LiveID to take over passports.

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By helenlloyd

edited Jul 12, 2006 - 11:49 AM

My e mail address was helenlloyd301@msn.com. I have now been unable to access my e mails for this account. All i receive when attempting to log on is 580 DNS server unavailable or web page cannot be displayed! WHY!!!!!!!!!! If i need an invite would someone please put me out of my misery and send me one ASAP. Many Thanks

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By ip-777

edited Jul 12, 2006 - 12:31 PM

hallo ich denke das egend wo ein problem ist das mann nicht die key bekommen kann das ist ein problem... es reicht nicht nur zu downloaden nein mann muss auch die key nomal bekommen können das müßste gelöst werden,ich habe die key auch noch nicht wie kann man sie bekommen ((nein nicht duch nomalen weg den das habe ich grade gesagt das das nicht geht)jezt frage ich euch alle wie ip-777@web.de

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By a5hr1th

edited May 6, 2006 - 1:40 AM

hey there,
Can someone send me an invite to the Messenger Live??? Please, i will be ever indebted to the one who sends me an invite. My Email Adress is a5hr1th@hotmail.com. Please dont hesitate to send the invite.

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By Cool Raccoon

edited Apr 27, 2006 - 2:27 PM

hey all u guys who put their email like username@your.isp.com or like dat, u will be flooded with spam u should put it like username[at]your[dot]isp[dot]com

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By sakoin

edited Apr 20, 2006 - 6:14 PM

can someone else get me a invite?? thanks anyway

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By pavanm

edited Jul 16, 2007 - 12:55 PM

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By Dizzle_2006

edited Mar 14, 2006 - 10:18 PM

Hey This is kyle & Im A WLM BETA TESTER & Im Wondering If Theres Anyone Wants A Beta Invite let Me Know @ (kylehillier323@hotmail.com) I Have 42 Invites Left.......

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By hano

edited Apr 11, 2006 - 3:16 AM

yes please i really need an invetation please send one as fast as you can.
thank you.

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By habibanwar

edited Mar 15, 2006 - 10:13 AM

Could you send me an invite??? I've been waiting for microsoft to do something and i think this is it.

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By kylo33710

posted Mar 13, 2006 - 1:31 AM

actually make that ill send an invite to messenger 8.0 BETA to the first 16 people that send me an email at kylo33710@hotmail.com

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By kylo33710

edited Mar 13, 2006 - 1:32 AM

anyone need an invite ill send an invite for messenger live 8.0 BETA to the 1st 6 ppl that send me an email at kylo33710@hotmail.com

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By kylo33710

edited Mar 13, 2006 - 1:32 AM

i hav like 17 invites ill invite 6 people just send me an email at kylo33710@hotmail.com

from kyle

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By justandy

edited Mar 2, 2006 - 12:55 AM

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By gody

edited Mar 1, 2006 - 11:27 AM

I am frome China.

I can't beta..

I am Gody Yan.
http://www.gody.cn
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By godttj

posted Mar 1, 2006 - 11:32 AM

I am Gody Yan.
http://www.gody.cn
http://www.careceo.com
http://www.mslives.cn
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By godttj

edited Mar 1, 2006 - 11:29 AM

I am Gody Yan.
http://www.gody.cn
http://www.careceo.com
http://www.mslives.cn
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By GoodThings2Life

posted Feb 28, 2006 - 4:23 PM

I'm just gonna throw this out here, since it applies to Live services... I have 10 invites to the new Messenger beta. Is anyone interested?

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By habibanwar

posted Mar 15, 2006 - 10:19 AM

GoodThings2Life: Can you send me one???

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By ViewtifulIsmail

edited Mar 8, 2006 - 10:37 AM

yeah i owuld want plzzzzzzz wlm messengeris_206@hotmail.co.uk

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By chetan.kania

edited Mar 1, 2006 - 11:48 AM

GoodThings2Life -> i'd like an invite if you have any left. (chetan02@hotmail.com)

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By lookwhatifound

posted Mar 1, 2006 - 11:45 AM

sure why not! send me an invitation at
allmixmax[at]yahoo.com

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By blazo

posted Feb 28, 2006 - 11:36 PM

i am interested. xblazox@gmail.com

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By w_phillips

posted Feb 28, 2006 - 4:51 PM

I also have a few I can give away...I think I am down to 26 at the moment. If you want one, email me at invites@s92514387.onlinehome.us with an email address that WILL work with msn messenger. Last time I did this, half the people gave me email address that wouldn't work...

oh, and since I am lazy, its the first 26 that will get them.

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By ogman

posted Feb 28, 2006 - 11:01 AM

Office Live is broken right now (email is a mess) and problems have been noticed with the Passport authentication. Passport should have been scrapped long ago, and tweaking it a little while assigning a new name isn't going to help.

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By balupton

edited Feb 28, 2006 - 10:21 AM

As long as they get rid of the whole your passport account is dependent on your email thing, everyone has lots of emails, everyones emails keep changing why do we need to be stuck with a passport that is attached to a 5 year old email.

Please just give us a user id number or a login name instead of it relying on our email.

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By Jedite

posted Feb 28, 2006 - 3:10 PM

um you do know that you can change your email addy for passport right?

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By rseiler

posted Feb 28, 2006 - 1:05 AM

This is a name? MS needs to go to Apple school and stop naming products so awkwardly. They do it all the time, and it's compounded by having 17 different versions of every product. Enough.

"Windows Live Local Search Free Call"

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By The MAZZTer

posted Feb 28, 2006 - 1:36 AM

That sounds like a link farm result I'd see on Google.

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By Drrommd

edited Feb 27, 2006 - 11:43 PM

Is my MSN Messenger Signing in for my Yahoo Messenger?
Drrommd@hotmail.com

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By Drrommd

posted Feb 27, 2006 - 11:48 PM

Is my MSN Messenger Signing in on my Yahoo Messenger

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By Joe Dirt

posted Feb 27, 2006 - 11:29 PM

"Live" is becoming a meaningless word also.

There's nothing "live" about it.

The .NET crap was a joke and so is "Live".

All Microsoft does is either take other people's stuff and rename it, or rename their own crappy stuff.

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By PC Rat

edited Feb 27, 2006 - 10:12 PM

...

Windows "Passport" has gone the same way as the Windows "Channelbar".

Nobody will miss Passport, either.
...

The Computer Rodent

...

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By Nathanael_L

posted Feb 28, 2006 - 3:12 AM

Channelbar??????

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By Joe Dirt

posted Feb 28, 2006 - 10:15 AM

It was in Windows 95 and 98. You must be a youngin.

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By JacenSolo

posted Feb 28, 2006 - 7:02 AM

And theres PC Rat's point :P

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By PC_Tool

posted Feb 28, 2006 - 9:53 AM

God, I remember that useless piece fo crap.

What a joke.

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By athome

posted Feb 28, 2006 - 2:11 PM

It was the first thing I disabled upon setup of a PC. LOL

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By AngeIDust

posted Feb 27, 2006 - 8:52 PM

I never used the stupid service so I don't care what the change it to

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By GoodThings2Life

posted Feb 28, 2006 - 4:15 PM

If you never used the service, then how do you KNOW that it's stupid? Surely you aren't the type to base your opinions on someone else's feedback alone.

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By sophist_dreams

posted Feb 27, 2006 - 7:46 PM

If Microspud screws this up as bad as they did when My Space and Passport profiles went "Live" no one will be able to sign into Passport.net for weeks after they implement the changes

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By GoodThings2Life

posted Feb 27, 2006 - 7:34 PM

A lot of the WL services are looking to be really nice, but I agree with Mary Jo Foley that the whole "Live" concept is going to wear out very quickly. These are all services that are great as a "free addon" to Windows to improve the quality of Internet use... but there's nothing that strikes me as worthy of a pay subscription outside of Windows OneCare.

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By TanNg

posted Feb 27, 2006 - 10:13 PM

I tend to aggree with Mary Jo Foley. If Microsoft could not quickly introduce a bunch of compeling Windows live service, the "live" concept will be perceived as over marketing, under promise.

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By heat_fan1

posted Feb 27, 2006 - 7:26 PM

Well, this is somewhat exciting, I suppose. The one thing that I want more than anything is to be able to create a new Hotmail/Windows Live email account/Passport and migrate all of the settings and profiles from my current Passport on to the new one.

And the new WL products should be exciting to hear about. I'm curious what the new WL toolbar will be like, the final WL Mail and Messenger, etc. It's looking to be a busy year for Microsoft!

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